The Temple scrolls were a library
Rome is the authority that invented the concept of an official canon
R I see. Didn't know this.The Jews at Qumran were a religious purist group(Wiki) Researchers have assembled a collection of 981 different manuscripts – discovered in 1946/47 and in 1956 – from 11 caves.
Which one was the Jewish Bible Canon?At one time – I was excited that you voiced a desire for a return to the Hebrew – The Hebrew TorahYES I thought – because the more Christian I am the more Jewish I think
The writings of the First Christians is very Jewish in flavor – because Peter, James, Phillip, Thomas, Paul, and Jesus were all Jews!
The Jews are God’s chosen people by the One True Creator and set that 1% against the 99%Mat 10:16 “Behold, I am sending you out as sheep in the midst of wolves,
WHY?Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you, and before you were born, I set you apart—I appointed you prophet to the nations.”
The solution to bad Judaism = Messianic Judaism as the First Century Christian thought and taughtThen you say -
The Hebrew writings are full of vomit, drunk priests, lies, so whom will teach us?
Why did the NT torah come, from 'a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: ' ? Because the torah had become full of vomit, drunk priests, etc.1- you will say almost anything to defend the strong authority of your satan
2- you are small and judgmental about things you do not understand
You do not understand Judaism as a spiritual Jew – you see it only as a Christian Sunday School wrong
3- cannot tell the difference between a religious Jew and a practicing Jew – you cannot tell the difference between religion and faith – all you see is religion – because you deny the spirit
So you are trapped here in the world – in mortal land
What is this than? Isa 28:8 For all tables are full of vomit and filthiness, so that there is no place clean.
9 ¶ Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. Who shall teach knowledge? Joh 14:26 But the Helper, the Ruach ha-Kodesh whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you everything and remind you of everything that I said to you.
Who will receive this teaching? those who has received it spirit to spirit
Not books – not words on a page – not a catchy YouTube video
When will they receive this teaching?After they are weaned from toddler style Sunday School religion
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: You define precept as one single word – word upon word – the Robert Method
You say you Method only works for thing you already know what you desire to findIf you want to attack or discredit scripture – you have many more verses
If you want to find your satan – you have many verses
(even tho your method failed you 23 + 49 times = every time)But if I ask you to use your method to study something you don’t already know the answer to – you claim your method does not work like that
Clearly you have no concept of what a precept is11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. YEP! –
Greek – beginning with the LXX circe 250BC translated by 70 of the best Jewish scholars of their time – at least 2 from each tribe
Continuing one with the agl and other First Century documents
14 ¶ Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.
15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:
ye scornful men, that rule this people = organized religionThe Gospel of Thomas - The Nag Hammadi Library(38) Jesus said, "Many times have you desired to hear these words which I am saying to you, and you have no one else to hear them from. There will be days when you will look for me and will not find me."
(39) Jesus said, "The pharisees and the scribes have taken the keys of knowledge (gnosis) and hidden them. They themselves have not entered, nor have they allowed to enter those who wish to. You, however, be as wise as serpents and as innocent as doves."ye scornful men, that rule this people = organized religionThe Apocalypse of Peter - The Nag Hammadi Library"For many will accept our teaching in the beginning. And they will turn from them again by the will of the Father of their error, because they have done what he wanted. And he will reveal them in his judgment, i.e., the servants of the Word. But those who became mingled with these shall become their prisoners, since they are without perception. And the guileless, good, pure one they push to the worker of death, and to the kingdom of those who praise Christ in a restoration. And they praise the men of the propagation of falsehood, those who will come after you. And they will cleave to the name of a dead man, thinking that they will become pure. But they will become greatly defiled and they will fall into a name of error, and into the hand of an evil, cunning man and a manifold dogma, and they will be ruled without law."
"For some of them will blaspheme the truth and proclaim evil teaching. And they will say evil things against each other. Some will be named: (those) who stand in (the) strength of the archons, of a man and a naked woman who is manifold and subject to much
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"And there shall be others of those who are outside our number who name themselves bishop and also deacons, as if they have received their authority from God. They bend themselves under the judgment of the leaders. Those people are dry canals."ye scornful men, that rule this people = organized religionMat 23:23 “Woe to you, Torah scholars and Pharisees, hypocrites! You tithe mint and dill and cumin, yet you have neglected the weightier matters of Torah—justice and mercy and faithfulness. It is necessary to do these things without neglecting the others.
Mat 23:24 O blind guides, straining out a gnat while swallowing a camel!
Mat 23:25 “Woe to you, Torah scholars and Pharisees, hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and uncontrolled desire.
Mat 23:26 O blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, so that the outside may become clean as well.
Mat 23:27 “Woe to you, Torah scholars and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but inside are full of dead men’s bones and everything unclean.
Mat 23:28 In the same way, you appear righteous to men on the outside, but are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.
Mat 23:29 “Woe to you, Torah scholars and Pharisees, hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the monuments of the tzaddikim.
Mat 23:30 And you say, ‘If we’d been alive in the days of our forefathers, we wouldn’t have been partners with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’
Mat 23:31 So you testify against yourselves, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets.
I so agree
Walk in the spirit
Forget all this man-made doctrine that elevates your satan to a position of strong authority16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. Mat 16:18 And I also tell you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My community; and the gates of Sheol will not overpower it.
And I have already quoted what peter had to say about Roman Christendom with it deacons and elders that believe on the name of a dead man
The Hebrew writings are full of vomit, drunk priests, lies, so whom will teach us?
Why did the NT torah come, from 'a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: ' ? Because the torah had become full of vomit, drunk priests, etc.You have proved it – beyond doubt – you are anti-semeticAnd where does your opinion originate – what was the first angel to sin that causes this sinSynod of Laodicea - Canon 29www.newadvent.org/fathers/3806.htmChristians must not judaize by resting on the Sabbath, but must work on that day, rather honouring the Lord's Day; and, if they can, resting then as Christians. But if any shall be found to be judaizers, let them be
anathema from Christ.
a·nath·e·ma
1. - something or someone that one vehemently dislikes.
"racial hatred was anathema to her"
Similar: abhorrent, hateful, abomination, evil, bane
2. - a formal curse by a pope or a council of the Church, excommunicating a person or denouncing a doctrine.
Similar: curse, ban, excommunication, damnation, denunciation
And you don’t understand why I think you just diluted form of Catholic Isa 29:10 For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, and hath closed your eyes: the prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.
11 And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it is sealed: Notice the Hebrew torah can be read correctly, if you are spiritually connected to GodYES! – Spiritual; Judaism – a Personal relationship with the fatherAs Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob had – as David had – as Moses had – as John the Baptist has
Now available to the 100% through belief in Jesus Christ = salvation
The Hebrew torah can be discerned correctly. Surely some Christian men were able to do this in the past, Only in the past huh – not a currently ongoing thing?
You deny the spirit – so you cannot even see what is happening all around you
Your man-made doctrine just gets in your way
1948 Israel cannot be prophetic because Ellen White says –
NOT consistent with the bulk of scripture /history / or current events that support scripture
Did Satanic powers make the torah of GOD a conspiracy? Is it tampered with? full of other things? Yes, but God is also clever to make His word secured, and preserved.YES! – it is called Raman ChristendomJews – love the Torah and await the Messiah
Messianic Jews – love the Torah and have received the Messiah
Christianity introduces belief in satan and it puts itself at odds with both Judaism or Messianic Judaism
It is so obvious to anyone saying they have an open mind
Yet – some deny and cling to religion because it is tradition
Isa 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead?
20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.www.esotericarchives.com/solomon/testamen.htm
Wow, so much writing of Shedim, glad it's not in the OT torah, common received text.
Are there shedim? Yes, no doubt.OK – serious studentRegardless of when it was finally written and by whom1- Oral Torah – that gets written down latter is still Torah
2- Every word spoken by Jesus Christ was oral Torah before someone else wrote it down
3- is it inspired – is it perfect –
Answer – do way to judge / unknown – this is why it is Oral Torah
Is it held with the same regard as Moses or Isaiah by anyone – NO
BUT – this text is the backstory for Beelzebub and the shedim
And Beelzebub was common knowledge to the audience of the agl
At least it was common knowledge to the Rabbinic community
AND – both the shedim and Beelzebub are scriptural
Point #1 - Beelzebub is the prince of the shedim
For me – this is not the (King) Beast / Dragon / First Archon – this is the (prince) devil
The First Archons – General charged with our area of responsibility
Point#2 – Each different demon = has a specific function
This is so Jewish
Your satan = a function
The First Archon = a satan
The Devil = a satan
Each and every shedim / archon = a satan
When they are performing that function
Point#3 –
Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the worldly forces of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
all you talk about is satan this and satan thatSorry Robert – the hierarchy of the archon is vast and complexMultiple players on multiple levels
And every one of them = a sad a pathetic thing
NOT ONE of those shedim Solomon spoke of were ever Ezk 28 perfect in heaven as angels
Can you get shedim to build material for Solomon's temple?
"Would GOD want demons to help prepare his Temple?See – we believe in different God’s
My God is absolutePro 16:4 Adonai works everything out for his own purpose—even the wicked for a day of disaster.