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Post by Dave on Jan 21, 2020 16:49:19 GMT -5
How many books of Hebrew do you need for truth? Certainly not all of them, otherwise why didn't GOD impress people to read a bigger collection? Word study of בני האלהים (bane elohiym) Used 4 times in the ahl Job 2:1 – associated with satan Job 1:6 – associated with satan Ezr 3:9 – children of Henadad, 1 chr 24:5 – children of Eleazar, Why do I think the bane elohiym associated with satan to be angelic beings called archon? Enoch says soCHAPTER VI. -1. And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto them beautiful and comely daughters. 2. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.' … 6. And they were in all two hundred; who descended ⌈in the days⌉ of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, Enoch calls them angels – children of heaven Enoch says they descended down to Mount Hermon Descended from where – space / heaven = alien or interdimensional angelic beings (both - archon) If you say Enoch does NOT count then let me remind you that Jesus and the agl quote Enoch 64 times Would Jesus or the agl quote a worthless book? So your references to "bane elohiym" as alien beings is false. The term more likely refers to "followers of GOD, such as humans, and maybe other unfallen beings" So – you are saying that in Job – the bane elohiym are humans standing alongside of satan in heaven before the Lord Explain
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2020 13:31:59 GMT -5
Dave explain why Enoch wasn't included as inspired as Canon? Enoch would be oral, not a written book, they need not write down their memories, they had perfect recall, unlike us. I suspect Enoch was written by somebody else later.
As for sons of GOD standing around the meeting, these were princes of unfallen worlds, as Satan was than a prince of earth.
What does sar or archon mean? prince.
To be a prince, you have to be declared one by the Father. Jesus won back the right of prince of earth, by defeating the prince of earth, ie Satan. Have you considered this?
Jews imply the Father is a king. No scripture reference for this. Only Jesus is a king or prince, or earth too. We are his subjects.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jan 22, 2020 14:04:39 GMT -5
Dave explain why Enoch wasn't included as inspired as Canon? Enoch would be oral, not a written book, they need not write down their memories, they had perfect recall, unlike us. I suspect Enoch was written by somebody else later. None of the Tanak was penned by Moses himself Eastern Chritianity - oldest version 350BC Egypt Western Christianity - oldest copy 200 AD Lavant This book of Enoch, is very large? All 60 chapters are inspired according to you? The coptics considered the whole book as resourceful to them? I find Jude quotes Enoch on one material: Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, So if the disciples knew about this book of Enoch, why isn't it quoted much? The Copts find it useful - why - for the same reason Jude did - he tested it and kept the good 1st Thes 5:21 (Very Gnostic)Enoch is quoted 63 times in the ahl + agl 57 times in the agl for a total of 83 verses 6 times in the ahl for a total of 7 verses Show me another Book outside of the Tanak that is quoted as much From: Which Old Testament Book Did Jesus Quote Most? blog.biblia.com/2014/04/which-old-testament-book-did-jesus-quote-most/Jesus quotes Exodus seven times, Jesus quotes the book of Isaiah eight times Jesus quotes Deuteronomy on 10 occasions Jesus quotes the Psalms on 11 occasions: Enoch is quoted 57 times in the agl for a total of 83 verses The only reason you are unaware of this is that you come from a Roman Christendom Culture and we are filled with all types of false impressions Bible Study – satanI will use the line by line – word for word approach to a word study of satan Maybe there is some benefit to this approach Read more: ponderingconfusion.proboards.com/thread/429/bible-study-satan#ixzz6BmvmHXeV
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