Post by Dave on Oct 5, 2020 16:55:46 GMT -5
D: "OK – you answer me – if you lose a leg here in this life – will you have two legs in heaven
Of course, the DNA is not removed from your leg, contains information to restore your leg,
Very kindergarten simple – heaven is filled with 3D biological life forms that bleed and breath
R: "Our spirit is made of the same divinity GOD is? wow? is this even possible?
D: "Question - Who said this?
Answer – Robert said this – and now you will go on at length why your idea is wrong
Question – can we return to what I said – instead of your misrepresentation of what I said
I already know you consider your satan god a divinity
I do not
Rob replies: Sadly Dave you do not answer my question. Something created using matter is not by definition divine, as spirit is divine.
God cannot create another entity like GOD, GOD only creates entities made of matter.
Dave thinks: "I already know you consider your satan god a divinity
Rob is surprised? You do?
Yes I have two Kings and two gods opposing each other. What's wrong with that?Everything is wrong with that.
Please make up your mind
The fact that satan is the god of evil is the foundation of SDA doctrine
And you have been defending your satan doctrine for a year
Actually angels were created of matter, hence are not divine either.
The one angel who chose to sin, and thus by sinning made other angels also sin, is NOT divine either.
Only GOD is divine, the Great Uncaused Cause has to be the only unique Entity there is.
R: "You cannot have GOD create spirit entities
D: "God cannot create angels or man or even archon – but you say you do not diminish God
R : You're not answering my question. Angels are creatures made of matter.
Scripture please - that angels are made of dust from the ground
(Wiki) An angel is a supernatural being
(Wiki) The Torah uses the (Hebrew) terms מלאך אלהים (mal'āk̠ 'ĕlōhîm; messenger of God), מלאך יהוה (mal'āk̠ YHWH; messenger of the Lord), בני אלהים (bənē 'ĕlōhîm; sons of God) and הקודשים (haqqôd̠əšîm; the holy ones) to refer to beings traditionally interpreted as angels. Later texts use other terms, such as העליונים (hā'elyônîm; the upper ones).
The term מלאך (mal'āk̠) is also used in other books of the Tanakh. Depending on the context, the Hebrew word may refer to a human messenger or to a supernatural messenger. A human messenger might be a prophet or priest, such as Malachi,
So – I guess you need to explain supernatural beings – that are made of matter
www.quora.com/What-are-angels-made-of
Made of pure unconditional love, wrapped in ethereal matter, they are perceived according to the limitations that exist in the mind and heart of humans that seek to interact with them. They are the projection of divine virtues and truths, different angels existing for different aspects of truth.
Very Jewish - each aspect of God - each function of God is carried out by a specific angels
Michael is always the warrior defender
Gab-briel is always associated with the female
Uriel - always does his assigned job
The cherub assigned to stand at the gates of Eden - did as he was asigned
etherealmatters.org/#:~:text=Ethereal%20%2D%20Lacking%20material%20substance%20and,%2D%20heavenly%2C%20spiritual%2C%20ghostly.&text=Matter%20%2D%20Any%20substance%20that%20has,%2D%20physical%2C%20corporeal%2C%20material.
Ethereal = Lacking material substance and having no volume or mass - heavenly, spiritual, ghostly. ....
I agree
www.quora.com/What-are-angels-made-of
Angels in traditional Christian theology are spirits, minds without physical bodies or the properties of physical bodies, like a chemical composition or a physical location (hence the medieval question, “how many angels can dance on the point of a pin?” — angels’ “location” was simply the place where they were acting and affecting the material universe, so the question was really about the problem of how many forces can act on a single point at a single time).
I agree with the bulk of Christendom
Angels are not made of 3D matter – they are spirit forms – beings without 3d physical bodies
spirits, minds without physical bodies or the properties of physical bodies,
I Agree
Where I disagree with this view
Do angels have bodies – yes – but they are not of this 3D world
What is a 4th dimensional being like – or a 5th dimensional – or sixth dimensional
Ezk 1 – gives us a clue – multifaceted – wings for covering, that do not fly
Answer – multidimensional beings – 6th dimensional beings – not man-like with blood and breath
What matter are they made of – Ethereal – not 3D – not of this world
R: "The provider of love needs a responder of love, that is spirit, not of matter.
D: "So God created man – gave him the Free Will choice to choose God or not
Rob: "Again you did not answer my big question, really big. God is not lonely
Most Christians and all Gnostics say – God created all creation for companionship
Why does the SDA say God created everything? Why are we here? What’s the purpose?
Of course, the DNA is not removed from your leg, contains information to restore your leg,
Very kindergarten simple – heaven is filled with 3D biological life forms that bleed and breath
R: "Our spirit is made of the same divinity GOD is? wow? is this even possible?
D: "Question - Who said this?
Answer – Robert said this – and now you will go on at length why your idea is wrong
Question – can we return to what I said – instead of your misrepresentation of what I said
I already know you consider your satan god a divinity
I do not
Rob replies: Sadly Dave you do not answer my question. Something created using matter is not by definition divine, as spirit is divine.
God cannot create another entity like GOD, GOD only creates entities made of matter.
Dave thinks: "I already know you consider your satan god a divinity
Rob is surprised? You do?
Jun 5, 2020 18:55:58 GMT -5 @robertt said:
Dave writes: "See – you have two Kings and two godsYes I have two Kings and two gods opposing each other. What's wrong with that?
Please make up your mind
The fact that satan is the god of evil is the foundation of SDA doctrine
And you have been defending your satan doctrine for a year
Actually angels were created of matter, hence are not divine either.
The one angel who chose to sin, and thus by sinning made other angels also sin, is NOT divine either.
Only GOD is divine, the Great Uncaused Cause has to be the only unique Entity there is.
R: "You cannot have GOD create spirit entities
D: "God cannot create angels or man or even archon – but you say you do not diminish God
R : You're not answering my question. Angels are creatures made of matter.
Scripture please - that angels are made of dust from the ground
(Wiki) An angel is a supernatural being
(Wiki) The Torah uses the (Hebrew) terms מלאך אלהים (mal'āk̠ 'ĕlōhîm; messenger of God), מלאך יהוה (mal'āk̠ YHWH; messenger of the Lord), בני אלהים (bənē 'ĕlōhîm; sons of God) and הקודשים (haqqôd̠əšîm; the holy ones) to refer to beings traditionally interpreted as angels. Later texts use other terms, such as העליונים (hā'elyônîm; the upper ones).
The term מלאך (mal'āk̠) is also used in other books of the Tanakh. Depending on the context, the Hebrew word may refer to a human messenger or to a supernatural messenger. A human messenger might be a prophet or priest, such as Malachi,
So – I guess you need to explain supernatural beings – that are made of matter
www.quora.com/What-are-angels-made-of
Made of pure unconditional love, wrapped in ethereal matter, they are perceived according to the limitations that exist in the mind and heart of humans that seek to interact with them. They are the projection of divine virtues and truths, different angels existing for different aspects of truth.
Very Jewish - each aspect of God - each function of God is carried out by a specific angels
Michael is always the warrior defender
Gab-briel is always associated with the female
Uriel - always does his assigned job
The cherub assigned to stand at the gates of Eden - did as he was asigned
etherealmatters.org/#:~:text=Ethereal%20%2D%20Lacking%20material%20substance%20and,%2D%20heavenly%2C%20spiritual%2C%20ghostly.&text=Matter%20%2D%20Any%20substance%20that%20has,%2D%20physical%2C%20corporeal%2C%20material.
Ethereal = Lacking material substance and having no volume or mass - heavenly, spiritual, ghostly. ....
I agree
www.quora.com/What-are-angels-made-of
Angels in traditional Christian theology are spirits, minds without physical bodies or the properties of physical bodies, like a chemical composition or a physical location (hence the medieval question, “how many angels can dance on the point of a pin?” — angels’ “location” was simply the place where they were acting and affecting the material universe, so the question was really about the problem of how many forces can act on a single point at a single time).
I agree with the bulk of Christendom
Angels are not made of 3D matter – they are spirit forms – beings without 3d physical bodies
spirits, minds without physical bodies or the properties of physical bodies,
I Agree
Where I disagree with this view
Do angels have bodies – yes – but they are not of this 3D world
What is a 4th dimensional being like – or a 5th dimensional – or sixth dimensional
Ezk 1 – gives us a clue – multifaceted – wings for covering, that do not fly
Answer – multidimensional beings – 6th dimensional beings – not man-like with blood and breath
What matter are they made of – Ethereal – not 3D – not of this world
R: "The provider of love needs a responder of love, that is spirit, not of matter.
D: "So God created man – gave him the Free Will choice to choose God or not
Rob: "Again you did not answer my big question, really big. God is not lonely
Most Christians and all Gnostics say – God created all creation for companionship
Why does the SDA say God created everything? Why are we here? What’s the purpose?