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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 4:46:17 GMT -5
OK, so for you Dave, GOD is solitary, numerically one being and one person, just expressed as different expressions (possibly two, or three).
Where in Scripture is this idea of yours so clear to read?
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jun 23, 2020 9:22:39 GMT -5
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Only one Word - who is god - who is with God (showing distance) - and the Word was God (image)
Joh 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
Who is John 1: talking about?
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Christ
Col 1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: Christ Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins: Christ
Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: Christ = 100% Gnostic Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
Who is the image of God? - Christ Who was here before all things - Christ Who created all thing through Him and for Him - Christ
Who is the creator = Christ - who is the 3D image of God
Joh 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us. Joh 14:9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Joh 14:11 Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
You claim that scripture says In the beginning was the a word there was a different independent word standing next to the first independent word then a third independent word makes up your 3 gods
Sorry - only one Word 1 that has no explanation except that it exist 1 that represents distance (English with - Greek pros) - Spirit = HS 1 that has form - that became flesh - Christ the image of God
3 are 1 = Trinity = multidimensional reality and I as a 3 dimensional being find relief that God is with me in all 3 of those dimensions
ahl Exo 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. Exo 33:21 And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: Exo 33:22 And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: Exo 33:23 And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.
His Face - His Glory - His back No one can see His face and live - God - singularity - Father His Glory - Spirit = HS His back - His image = Christ
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2020 14:22:00 GMT -5
OK the words....
Pr 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? 5 Every word of God is pure:
All three members of the words are listed here, Ruwach, Eloah and the Son. In Hebrew the "imrah"
Why are words the foundation of this divine family? Because love is a fruit of words or laws... Information... holy words....
Notice the imrah personifies the eloah...
Every word of God is pure
Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The imrah was with elohiym, the imrah was elohiym.
Notice the ruwach also is personified:
Pr 1:8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
Again a family concept is developed here, with the words, holy words,
The teaching of Scripture are personified by the Mother, Wisdom, the HS.
Again your ideas of the word, are not solitary...the OT shows them associated with family... both earth family pictures and divine family pictures.
Dave writes:"Sorry - only one Word
Rob replies: " Pr 1:8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
I see two sets of words here:
The ten commandments of the Father, have the torah teachings of the Mother, explaining them.
The words are not solitary. The words flow from a family. Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jun 23, 2020 19:57:01 GMT -5
I have Father, Creator, God, Son, Holy Spirit, the Spirit of God, Christ, Son of Man, and The Comforter
Maybe there are 10 gods - I bet I can find even more words
You Family concept is a nice metaphore - explain to me how it applies to Physics, Chemistry, or Biology
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2020 13:59:24 GMT -5
Those labels are functional descriptors of GOD, not labels of His person.
In Hebrew "ab" means "provider" we assume to mean father. I suspect "am" means "responder" because "ahabuh" is a love response to "Ahab". And the "bn" is the "home over the nations" or a "collector" of love, which Sarfetti explains.
Physics: The proton provides, the electron receives, the neutron collects. A family concept of quantum.
Chemistry: The boy metals provide, the girl non-metals receive, the inert noble ones collect the electrons, remaining stable. Its a family periodic table.
Biology: The gender male provides, the gender female responds, the children collect the biological mixing of both parents, and continue the family line.
Evolution cannot explain why creatures are made as two parents. Scripture can though.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jun 24, 2020 16:30:54 GMT -5
Chemistry: The boy metals provide, the girl non-metals receive, the inert noble ones collect the electrons, remaining stable. Its a family periodic table. Evolution cannot explain why creatures are made as two parents. Gee - I though darwin said - the male became specialized to care for and protect the female - while she is specalized for the nest I am tempted to send your Chemistry ideas off to a major university - migh be a breakthrough in metalugry there
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Post by Dave on Jun 26, 2020 1:24:53 GMT -5
All things are related - because all things come from the same source Multidimensional Cosmology and the Trinity10 dimensions of space - 100% current science 100% Jewish - 10 Sefierots - 10 expressions of God Physics - E=mc 2 - is the base expression Chemistry - Hydrogen = pe 2 - is the base expression Hydrogen = one mass x one e 2Why is the electron = (e 2) Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle- the electron is moving so fast that no matter where you measure it there it is and there it isn’t So - it is wrong to think of the ‘S’ electron shell as a moon circling the nucleus Rather - the ‘S’ electron shell is a (approx. massless ) cloud of energy Hydrogen = one proton of mass (m) and one electron that is a cloud of energy expressed as (e 2) Hydrogen = 3 dimensional Hydrogen is a duality of expression - one (m) and one (e 2) Smash the (m) proton of hydrogen and we discover it is composed of - a Trinity of Quarks - two in unison and one different / two males and a female as in Father - Son - and HS On top of this base unit of matter - there are 7 more higher energy levels 7 levels of the Periodic Table + the 3 that make up the base = 10 7 heavens - 7 different higher energy levels - 7 higher dimensions of increasing energy levels All occupying the exact same 3D spaceAll biology - is simply chemistry All chemistry - is simply physics and all physics - is just math Dave writes:"Sorry - only one Word
Rob replies: " Pr 1:8 My son, hear the instruction of thy father, and forsake not the law of thy mother:
I see two sets of words here: YES! - two expressions of the Word - one male and one female - YES!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 18:21:38 GMT -5
Nice presentation Dave.
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