Post by Dave on Jul 24, 2020 14:06:55 GMT -5
But you have GOD creating RA in a creature, without free will, so this implies GOD can make a RA relationship intentionally from the beginning.
Such a thing is not possible. God would NOT do this. Your Gnostic writings are letting you down.
Such a thing is not possible. God would NOT do this. Your Gnostic writings are letting you down.
Gnostic Christianity is not in disagreement with Messianic Judaism
Gnostic Christianity is not in disagreement with true Messianic Christianity
Gnostic Christianity is not in disagreement with Judaism – other than the addition of Christ = Messianic Judaism
Roman Catholicism – is not the same religion
It is Rome based and satan centered
First it wanted the new Christians not to act Jewish
Then they persecuted the Jews for killing Jesus
Then they persecuted the First Christians because they gave their allegiance to God not Rome
Jews say – God made everything – including the ra and the wicked
Jews say – God is Love sure, but in all God has 10 expressions, 10 Seferiots,
Gnostic simply add – the magnitude of this number 10
As a 10 dimensional multi-verse / 10 heavens
Supported by scripture and science – therefore I like it
One dimensional thinkers are still trapped in the idea than man is the center of all creation
And we live in only a universe – and invisible things are imaginary / non-tangible
This one dimensional view is not supported by scripture
2Ki 6:13 And he said, Go and spy where he is, that I may send and fetch him. And it was told him, saying, Behold, he is in Dothan.
2Ki 6:14 Therefore sent he thither horses, and chariots, and a great host: and they came by night, and compassed the city about.
2Ki 6:15 And when the servant of the man of God was risen early, and gone forth, behold, an host compassed the city both with horses and chariots. And his servant said unto him, Alas, my master! how shall we do?
2Ki 6:16 And he answered, Fear not: for they that be with us are more than they that be with them.
2Ki 6:17 And Elisha prayed, and said, LORD, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And the LORD opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
2Ki 6:18 And when they came down to him, Elisha prayed unto the LORD, and said, Smite this people, I pray thee, with blindness. And he smote them with blindness according to the word of Elisha.
I Believe Scripture
Just beyond our view – beyond the vail – just next door in the next dimension invisible to us are many – many – huge numbers of “OTHER LIFE FORMS” – angels – archon – and more
It is like germs – bacteria and viruses – they are present all about us 24/7 – they are on us and in us in numbers that = the number of stars in heaven = Zillions
We don’t see them – but they have such a power affect over us
Yes – demons are everywhere
Yes – angels are everywhere
Invisible Terrestrial Entities (ITEs) – two types brights and darks - science
www.newsfilecorp.com/release/18880/Thunder-Energies-Discovers-Invisible-Entities
Visible non-Terrestrial Entities (aliens) – many types and different degrees of malevolence
What does Roman Christendom do with all these archon – visible and invisible?
While they remain the only expert on the demonology – have all the information in their archives – if you need an exorcist you call a Roman Catholic
UFOs – not real – won’t talk about it – dismiss it
Demons – not real any more – don’t preach it any more – overlook it – dismiss it
The end result of 2000 years of Roman Christendom
1- = satan and demons do not exist
And the top selling movies are horror films about demons and devils
2- Or – we can dilute scripture and the Law into tolerance and we can all be just casual Christians
Transgender lesbian pastor can preach salvation and tolerance – cool
3- or – God does not exist – or he doesn’t care – or satan is just more powerful than God
Angelic / Archon Hierarchy
(Wiki) Jewish angiology
As always – there are 5 opinions – but is the Chabad view – Kabbalah view
1 Seraphim
2 Ophanim
3 Cherubim
4 Shinanim
5 Tarshishim
6 Ishim
7 Hashmallim
8 Malakim
9 Bene Elohim
10 Erelim
The Ishim or Eshim are a class of angels said to be the closest to the affairs of mortals. The Ishim are also comparable with the Erelim or the Bene Elim/Bene Elohim.
(Wiki) Christian angelology
1 Seraphim
2 Cherubim
3 Thrones
4 Dominions or Lordships
5 Virtues or Strongholds
6 Powers or Authorities
7 Principalities or Rulers
8 Angels
9 Personal guardian angels
Christian angelology place the Principalities at the lowest level – just above man
Jewish angelology – satan – angels
Angels praise and serve God
God uses any one of His creation (angelic or otherwise) to act as a satan – an angel on a mission – an angel obeying God will
Performing the function - to oppose / to accuse/ to test / to tempt
Jewish demonology – demons
Fathered by Adamus (different then Adam) + Lillith = the night shades – shedim
Where did Lillith come from – God made her He makes all
When did this happen - during the 130 years after Adam (mortal) and Eve separated
The Jewish GAP between Gen 1 creation of man story and Gen 2 creation story
But every texts says – it happen in the spirit realm
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Books of Solomon – give much detail about the 72 demons (shedim)
Their leader = Belzebul and each of the shedim have specific duties
Some control (rule) the wind – some specific disease – some blindness – etc
From the Books of Solomon come all – witch craft / demonology / magic / etc
All 100% Jewish
As well as the Star of Solomon – a 5 pointed Star –Pentagram - turned upside down = Sigil of Baphomet
As well as the Star of David – a 6 pointed Star
Roman Catholic / Christian demonology – satan
“cherub chata” and then more add Lucifer to his name
Roman Catholic demonology – demons
Only the Roman Catholic Church knows – it is all hidden from your view – Roman Edit
Christian demonology – demons
Lack of origin – not well understood = maybe the 1/3rd of the angles that “fell” changed into the demons
Roman Catholic / Christian demonology is in absolute denial
It is these same ‘powers’ – ‘authorities’ – ‘rulers’ - ‘principalities’ of Eph 6:12
Were in fact made by Him – for Him in Col 1:16
What The Nag Hammadi does for the Cosmology
Gnostic angelology = 90% Jewish – with clarification
Even within Judaism there are 5 opinions as this order
Some opinion replace Shinanim and Tarshishim with Elohiym Chayot
Gnostic / me = Elohiym = godly beings (The TRINTY anyway you see it) / heavenly beings (angelic beings either good or bad – but for clarification
Angels = good guy angels
Archon = bad-guy angels
The 10% Gnostic difference
#6 Ishim – are simply angels appearing to man as men
Gnostic thinking = any angelic power good or bad can make us men see anything they want us to see
#10 - Erelim – only derived from one verse – and is it a stretch
1 Seraphim
2 Ophanim
3 Cherubim
4 Shinanim
5 Tarshishim
6 Power or Authority - The First Archon
7 Hashmallim
8 Malakim
9 Bene Elohim – Gen 6:4 – sons of the Chief Archon = archon
Now ejected after the Flood - therefore = invisible archon
10 Nephilim / Rephiem – visible archon - ejected to the 7 visible planetary bodies – aliens / UFOs / and their connection to the 13 Families
Or the Archon are an addition to the hierarchy
The Jewish Angelic Hierarchy – is all about good-guy angels
Perhaps the Chief Archon and his archon and another hierarchy of its own
Chief Archon – Generals – Captains – ‘sars’ – shedim - demons – sergeants and privates
Eph 6:12 because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities (invisible archon), with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age (secular man / the system), with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places (visible archon)
The Nag Hammadi is in agreement but adds the following detail
We now are told – that YES God created everything – Yes even the ra and the wicked
But Robert says - God cannot violate His own laws
OK – agree – and this is why the ra was created indirectly – by the left hand
God created angels and they all bowed and said thank you God for being our Creator
HS made one thing – it woke up alone – and arrogantly thought he was the first – a great big narcissistic expression of “ME” / self
arrogantly thought he was the “FIRST” (archon – as you insist)
Therefore he was the Archon – the Archon archon – The First Archon – The Chief Archon
When did this happen - in the First age / Aion - the age that played out in heaven
resulting in Gen 1:2
This accomidates Christian Gap theory and the Jewish mandate that Adamus and Lillith did their thing spiritually in the heavens
The Nag Hammadi then goes on to say
This First Archon was immediately corrected and hidden within the choshek = Gen 1:2
Then the Chief Archon – spread – had off spring – cloned?
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Into 7 Powers – who created 12 domains for themselves each with 72 kingdoms each with its own archon
The rest of the Nag Hammadi is all about the Great Contest
KNOW YOUR ENEMY! – Eph 6:12 = know your enemy
Why is life so hard? – Why does sweet little Jimmy have to die of leukemia at age 3?
Why does bad things happen to good people?
Does it mean my faith is not strong?
Or does it mean God is not listening – doesn’t answer prayer – or don’t care?
These are all catholic – feel Good Christian questions
Gnostic reply – TV Show called “Monk” theme song - “Be careful – it is a jungle out there – on the streets – in society – in 3D reality”
As a Gnostic, I always think of it as – be careful – it is a “Contest” out there!
The call of Gnosticism from the Nag Hammadi
Get real – wake up – take it seriously
Communion is not about bread and wine – it is about faith and spirit
It is not enough to believe in Christ – you must become a Christ
You can go to every church meeting and prayer meeting – but if you do not share the reality of Christ with another – all is vain
Three types of people
1 Spiritual Christians – Born again – they know it /gnosis
2 Psychic Christians – they think it – they believe it – rational decision
3- and the lost – I would say lost to the world – you say lost to self - same same
The Consequence to theology by the Nag Hammadi
Jesus is born of a Virgin, preached at age 12, had a ministry at age 30, was crucified on Passover – ROSE FROM THE DEAD 3 days later – walked and spoke to the disciples for 47 days (Nag Hammadi Junk)
Then the gift of the HS came to man at the Pentecost
The Nag Hammadi was written – and recopied before 300AD
It supports the idea that Israel in Canaan was at constant – on the ground physical struggle – against ‘powers’ and ‘principalities’ (archon) here and in the spiritual realk
Israel was surrounded by enemies that all worshiped ‘other gods’
Around 630 AD Mohmand gathered all the ‘other gods of Canaan’ and placed them in the Kaba
He declares that Allah is supreme ruler of all those gods
He also writes – God has no Son
He also write that the devil (Ibis) and his children the Jinn were here on earth before man
And when God gave this domain over to man – Iblis and the Jinn became jealous of man
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He also wrote that any man that die in Jihad goes immediately to Paradise with 72 mansions with a woman each and at least three will be whores