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Post by Dave on Apr 22, 2021 17:31:20 GMT -5
Ezk 28 happens much later in the creation story – after things took form Exk 28 has absolutely nothing to do with Rev 12:3 – The Beast – The First Archon First you say R Really? - The angel was in Eden.
D" happens much later in the creation story – after things took form Then you say R not all all, sound like things happened millions of years before Eden....
So confusing – which one is it? Please present a consistent argument – arguing all over the palce just to argue is not the same as an academic study of SCRIPTURE
Where is this place? What are the stones of fire? Doesn't sound like earth to me, some other place? It was during the First Age – Day One Jer 4 is a better example
P.S. – I spent 3 days on your Don Patton video because you asked Why are you so afraid to review LA Marzulli
Instead the only discussion you can have is the defense of satan
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Post by Dave on Apr 22, 2021 18:35:24 GMT -5
Does Scripture ever say the devil was sinning from the devil's beginning?44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. You said – your post from your referenceThe Devil = Azazal the leader of the bane elohiym than sinned against man and nature YES – he was the leader that choose to embrace yester ra and WORLD with its physical pleasures This is an important point you makeMat 24:37 “For just as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. Mat 24:38 For in those days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, (and the bane elohiym were on the ground - with their Nephilim demi-gods and chimeras - in very large numbers - all flesh was crupt) until the day Noah entered the ark. (This is exactly the video of LA Marzulli – and what this scripture looks like today)Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the worldly forces of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Eph 6:13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you may be able to resist when the times are evil, and after you have done everything, to stand firm. Eph 6:14 Stand firm then! Buckle the belt of truth around your waist, But you say - ignore all this and all these players Just focus upon satan Gen 6 = non-God gods – that are bane elohiym – who father demi-gods (Titans) Angels do not have sex – your point = impossible These are bane elohiym archon (Gen 3:15 satan’s seed) Today – what is the saga of the UFO community Human + alien hybridization – I had an alien baby – the aliens stole my fetus – clones of Dulce NM How long has the UFO phenomena been recorded – since ancient days How many non-God gods are base upon the alien hypothesis = Sumar / Assyria / Hittites / India / Egypt / Canaan YES the Canaanite non-God gods have a link with the aliens of Sumar through Marduke The only information the Nag Hammadi adds to this already scriptural storyIs the idea that when the Nephilem and the bane elohiym were banned from earth – they were ejected to the seven visible celestial bodies in the heavens I see this within our solar system – Jupiter / Saturn / the moon / the sun? etc Other UFOers – make this to be – the star Sirus (where the Egyptian gods are from) Or the star cluster of Pleiades (Mormon church) Or the planet Nebiru - Sumar And the reptilians are supposed to be from the planet Zeta Reticuli Even my Native American Tribes and Australian Aborigine Tribes speak of Star People The Gen 6 Incursion has left its impact on every culture on the globeThe story is the same across the 99% - The “Memoirs of Noah”After the FloodThe Gen 6 Incursion continued on the ground in Canaan – the Rephiem – the Amorite – the Sons of Anak and it continues today - and the closer we get to the End of Days - the closer the the Days of Noah we become WAKE UP – RECOGNISE WHAT IS IN YOUR SIGHT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2021 15:45:01 GMT -5
I watched a large slab of the rest of the video as you asked Neplim Giant with 6 fingers. A human with an implant The doctors surgically remove the implant, it is radioactive and emits a radio frequency. Some say the aliens mark of the beast? Hmm? Interesting presentation in the video As the presenter says , Mt 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (KJV) Shalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 24, 2021 13:19:55 GMT -5
I watched a large slab of the rest of the video as you asked Large slab is better than blowing me off Hmm? Interesting presentation in the videoOK – stop your attack for a moment and PONDERNeplim Giant with 6 fingers.What say you – who was Goliath – why do the Jews say Goliath had 4 brothers These are NOT slimy evil demons from hell as the Fallen Angel doctrine preaches Gen 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, whenever the sons of God came to the daughters of men, and gave birth to them. Those were the mighty men of old, men of renown. Hercules – was not a scary evil demon – he was a man that was fathered by a god The Book of Enoch is all about Gen 6The bane elohiym are NOT scary evil demons They changed themselves into an appearance mortal women found appealing Ancient aliens were not evil demons Ancient non-God gods / ‘other gods’ / gods of the 99% required housing and food The bane elohiym of Enoch required housing and food – and consumed so much they began to eat man And the aliens of the NEW RELIGION will also NOT be evil spirits from an evil realm – but biological beings from another WORLD / planetA human with an implantThe doctors surgically remove the implant, it is radioactive and emits a radio frequency. OK – LA mentions Dr Richard Leer – he also refers to Witley Strieber Google them – all of them are the mainstream UFO researchers – non-religious Witley Strieber – is the subject and author of “COMMUNION” www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJXLOj5r1Pw1993 Movie – FIRE IN THE SKY - trailer (youtube) In 1975, logger Travis Walton (D.B. Sweeney) and his co-workers discovered a hovering UFO. Walton's pals fled, but Walton was not so fortunate. Whisked aboard the strange craft, he was subjected to a painful, unearthly medical study. 5 random guys – cutting a fire line in the forest The see a bright light (no craft just blinding light) 4 guys backed away – Travis Walton stepped closer and then – “The light took him” Travis Walton was missing 5 days – the 4 guys were charged with murder 3 different polygraph test all say the same story – The Bright Light took him No one believes them Until Travis Walton shows up naked and afraid I personally know a lady that will tell you – she saw a large metallic disc shaped flying object above twin Lakes Colorado – The craft was as big as the lake – then it took off straight up I sat at the dinner table of the grand-daughter of a 1947 Roswell officer They asked him on jis death bed to tell them – he said – “It don’t matter my family is still alive and well” WHAT DID HE MEAN?Some say the aliens mark of the beast?That some – are only the crazy Christian spiritualist preaching the reality of the archonEveryone else’s attention is focused somewhere else
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Post by Dave on Apr 24, 2021 14:09:51 GMT -5
Giants Question – why would so many ancient sources report bones of giants Are they all in n the same conspericy?
Pondering Confusion Vol. II - The Archon and the Great Contest CreateSpace, (October, 2014), ISBN-10: 1495252388, ISBN-13: 978-1495252389, Other Giants, pgs 213-219
According to the poet Hesiod, in Greek mythology the gigantes were the children of Uranus and the earth. They were involved in a conflict with the Olympian gods called the Gigantomachy, which was eventually settled when the hero Heracles decided to help the Olympians.5
The literature of Roman mythology doesn’t speak directly to the matter of giants, but in Germania several ‘Jupiter-Giant-Columns’ have been found that were crowned with a statue of Jupiter, typically on horseback, defeating or trampling down a Giant.
In Norse mythology, the Jotun often warred against the gods. While often translated as "giants", most are described as being roughly human sized, but a few are portrayed as very large, such as frost giants, fire giants, and mountain giants. The giants are the parents of most of the Norse mythological monsters in their mythology. The Norse gods are said to have intermarried with many of the giants. In Norse mythology the end of the world will come about in the eventual battle of Ragnarok, when the giants will rise up against Asgard.
The IspoliniIn from Bulgarian mythology were giants that lived in the mountains of the Earth before man. They ate raw meat and fought against beasts and dragons.
In Hinduism, the giants are called Daityas and fought against the gods because of their overwhelming jealousy of man.
The folklore from all over Europe is complete with tales of giants. Saxo Grammaticus, for example, argues that giants had to exist, because nothing else would explain the large walls and ruins of ancient civilizations. Many giants in English folklore were noted for their stupidity.6 “The Giant of Castelnau: Estimated at 11 feet, 6 inches tall; discovered by the anthropologist Georges Vacher de Lapouge at the Bronze Age cemetery of Castelnau-le-Lez, France in the winter of 1890.”7 Press accounts, in 1884, mentioned a discovery of bones of human giants unearthed at a prehistoric cemetery at Montpellier, France. Skulls ‘28, 31, and 32 inches in circumference’ were reported alongside other bones of gigantic proportions which indicated they belonged to a race of men ‘between 10 and 15 feet in height.’ The bones were reportedly sent to the Paris Academy for further study.8
According to Native American Indian Paiute tribe’s oral history, there once existed a legendary tribe of red-haired cannibalistic giants called the Si-Te-Cah or Sai'i. In 1911, guano miners claimed to have found evidence of these giants, a very tall, red-haired mummy, in Nevada's Lovelock Cave.9
In the autobiography of the famous Buffalo Bill Cody, you find the story of a Pawnee Indian that came into Cody’s camp with a giant thigh bone of a man. Once verified by the camps army surgeon, as human, the Indian was asked where it came from.
The Indian then told them the tale of a race of giants had lived in the area long ago, giant men three times larger than normal man. Giant men, who were capable of out running a stampeding buffalo. Cody wrote, “These giants denied the existence of a Great Spirit, so he caused a great rain storm to come, and the water kept rising higher and higher so that it drove these proud, and conceited giants from the low ground to the hills, and thence to the mountains, but at last even the mountain tops were submerged and then those mammoth men were all drowned. After the flood had subsided, the Great Spirit came to the conclusion that he had made man too large and powerful, and that he would therefore, correct the mistake by creating a race of men of smaller size and less strength. This is the reason, say the Indians that modern men are small and not like the giants of old. They claim that this story is a matter of Indian history, which has been handed down among them from time immemorial.”10, 11
The May 4th, 1912 issue of the New York Times reported that 18 giant skeletons were found by the Peterson brothers on Lake Lawn Farm in burial mounds near Lake Delavan, of southwest Wisconsin. The dig site at Lake Delavan was overseen by Beloit College and it included more than 200 effigy mounds that proved to be classic examples of 8th century Woodland Culture. But the enormous size of the skeletons and elongated skulls found did not fit very neatly into anyone's concept of a textbook standard.12, 13 The Lake Delavan find of May 1912 was only one of dozens and dozens of similar finds that were reported in local newspapers from 1851 forward to the present day. It was not even the first set of giant skeletons found in Wisconsin.
On 20 December 1897, the Times followed up with a report on three large burial mounds that had been discovered in Maple Creek, Wisconsin. One had recently been opened. "In it was found the skeleton of a man of gigantic size. The bones measured from head to foot over nine feet and were in a fair state of preservation. The skull was as large as a half bushel measure. Some finely tempered rods of copper and other relics were lying near the bones."14
Giant skulls and skeletons of a race of "Goliaths" have been found on a very regular basis throughout the Midwestern States for more than 100 years. Giants have been found in Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, Kentucky and New York, and their burial sites are similar to the well-known mounds of the Mound Builder people. Giant skeletons were found in the mid-1800s in New York State near Rutland and Rodman.15 A giant skull and vertebrae found in Wisconsin and Kansas City.16 A 9-foot, 8-inch skeleton was excavated from a mount near Brewersville, Indiana, in 1879.17 Skeletons of "enormous dimensions" were found in mounds near Zanesville, Ohio, and Warren, Minnesota, in the 1880s.18 In Clearwater Minnesota, the skeletons of seven giants were found in mounds. These had receding foreheads and complete double dentition.19 At LeCrescent, Minnesota, mounds were found to contain giant bones. Five miles north near Dresbach, the bones of people over 8 feet tall were found.20 Near Toledo, Ohio, 20 skeletons were discovered with jaws and teeth "twice as large as those of present day people." The account also noted that odd hieroglyphics were found with the bodies.21
Elsewhere in American, in 1833, soldiers digging at Lompock Rancho, California, discovered a male skeleton 12 feet tall. The skeleton was surrounded by carved shells, stone axes, and other artifacts. The skeleton had double rows of upper and lower teeth. Unfortunately, this body was secretly buried because the local Indians became upset about the remains.22 A giant found off the California Coast on Santa Rosa Island in the 1800s was distinguished by its double rows of teeth.23 In 1931, skeletons from 8 1/2 to 10 feet long were found in the Humbolt lake bed in California.24 Additionally, in 1932, Ellis Wright found human tracks in the gypsum rock at White Sands, New Mexico. His discovery was later backed up by Fred Arthur, Supervisor of the Lincoln National Park and others who reported that each footprint was 22 inches long and from 8 to 10 inches wide. They were certain the prints were human in origin due to the outline of the perfect prints coupled with a readily apparent instep.25
The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up Evidence presented here overlooks the artifacts from South America, China, and the rest of the world. Yet, there is enough evidence here to beg the question, ‘Why are not our museums presenting these giant artifacts to the public?’ There are very few museum references to giants. The best example is the Aztalan State Park, in Jefferson, Wisconsin, dedicated to the Mound Builders of the area where you can see the skeleton of a "Princess of Aztalan." However, many will argue that the bones on display are of just a normal sized person.26
The Smithsonian Institution has been accused of deliberately hiding and conspiring to keep the giant skeletons locked away. Skeletal remains from most of the Mound Builders excavation sites were carried back to Washington, only never to be heard of again.27
Noted Native American author and professor of law emeritus, Vine Deloria, writes in a personal communication, “Modern day archaeology and anthropology have nearly sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly interpreting the North American past as devoid of anything unusual in the way of great cultures characterized by a people of unusual demeanor. The great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have been spirited. This door and the contents of its vault are virtually sealed off to anyone, but government officials. It's probably better that so few of the ruins and remains were tied in with the Smithsonian because they give good reason to believe the ending of the Indiana Jones movie—a great warehouse where the real secrets of earth history are buried.”28
The Adair County News, of Columbia Kentucky, asked as long ago as 1897, “What has become of all the evidence? Again and again, only a single long skeleton or two was found among those of normal size. The understanding of tall, ruling chiefs and their wives was not developed at all …”29 In the book, American Indian Myths and Mysteries, Vincent Gaddis asks, “So what is the policy of the Smithsonian? Does the institution intentionally withhold information? Is the fact of a race of giant warriors and chieftains so threatening to the closed internal doctrine of American archaeology? That there was a race of men and women, possessing an unusually tall and strong physicality living over an extensive area of North America have become a forgotten fact.”30
There are other examples, like the Gungywamp Society of Connecticut, which researches megalithic sites in New England, Ed Conrad, and others have bizarre stories to relate about the ineptitude or simple prejudice of the Smithsonian when dealing with their materials. The Stonewatch Newsletter of the Gungywamp Society had a curious story in their winter 1992 issue about stone coffins discovered in 1892 in Alabama which were sent to the Smithsonian Institution and then 'lost'.31 In 1968 two Neanderthal-like skulls with low foreheads and large brows were found in Minnesota. As for dating, University of Minnesota scientists said they were reluctant to destroy any of the material, although carbon-14 testing only requires the burning of one gram of bone. So, they were sent to the Smithsonian for analysis. Later Dr. Lawrence Angel, curator of physical anthropology at the institution, said he had no record of the skulls there, although he was sure they were not lost.32 Interesting statement, ‘there is no record of the items, yet, the items are not lost.’ Is this the same statement as, we know where they are, but we are not telling you?
Concealing evidence that conflicts with accepted theory is common scientific skullduggery. For years the Smithsonian Institution has been accused of hiding in storage vaults things it doesn't like. From these examples, there seems to be a growing appreciation for an actual cover-up. Micah Hanks, who has a talk radio program on the Global Radio Alliance Network, has even made the claim that the Smithsonian dumped many giant skeletons overboard somewhere in the mid-Atlantic to hide the truth. Yet, the Smithsonian Institute is supposed to be America’s leader in scientific exploration and scientific artifact preservation. Why hide evidence that supports either a non-evolutionary past or the reality of ancient giants, except that both lines of evidence support a more scriptural view of our past. But what forces could be at work to cause such a scientific conspiracy to hide so much evidence over such a grand scale? As the saying goes, to discover the root in any conspiracy you must follow the money.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2021 15:50:58 GMT -5
My understanding of all this Dave is different to your view.
Adam and Eve were naturally large, this is our normal size. Some normally large people still exist today among us.
Over time due to poorer soils, poorer food content, and mutational spoiling of the human DNA, as a result of Adam's sin and the curse of GOD; humans became smaller over time.
All humans before the flood would have been giants, large humans.
As for the few populations with 6 fingers, and strange skull shape, not sure of this , possibly genetic engineering or natural spoiling of the DNA? Remember humans were evil doing RA, the worst RA I can think of is GM, genetic modifications of humans.
As for angels mating with humans? not possible, but causing humans to have more depravity is possible. These angels sinned in more depraved ways, causing the humans to follow suit. Hence God wiped the humans and their GM schemes out in a flood.
The alien stuff today are just sinning angels getting human attention, so they can overpower humans and control us. It's called demon possession. They are able to deceive the very elect remember?
These sinning angels will bring the world to the same themes as they did in Sodom, which was one of 5 cities around where the Garden of Eden was. These sinning angels mock God and oppose God by spoiling the salvation process God designed for humans. The sinning angels do not want humans to be saved.
Jude 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
These sinning angels like the sinning humans are all facing the vengeance of eternal fire one day soon.
Shalom Shalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 25, 2021 22:24:01 GMT -5
Adam and Eve were naturally large, this is our normal size. Some normally large people still exist today among us. Scripture please – need more than just Roberts says
All humans before the flood would have been giants, large humans. Then why Does Gen 6 speak of a different group if they were all giants?
As for the few populations with 6 fingers, and strange skull shape, not sure of this , possibly genetic engineering or natural spoiling of the DNA Where are the 6 fingered giant today – show me one If these were genetic mutations – like the Werewolf Syndrome (Acute hepatic porphyria) Then why is it not measurable within the genome? The odds say 1 in 10 million have the Werewolf Syndrome (Acute hepatic porphyria) This is a measurable phenomenon – show me the stats on six fingered giamtism
As for angels mating with humans? not possible, Correct – I agree – this is why the bane elohiym must be a different group of heavenly beings
The alien stuff today are just sinning angels getting human attention, so they can overpower humans and control us. It's called demon possession. They are able to deceive the very elect remember? Hmmm? If this is truth – why doesn’t anyone in the world believe it With each and every UFO sighting – just how many people us it to validate scripture And why are you unable to witness tot=y our UFO neighbor
Question - is it your mission to defens satan on every post? Strange allegience you have
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 4:59:18 GMT -5
how tall was Adam Question: "How tall was Adam?" Answer: The Bible is silent regarding the height of Adam. This may seem like a strange topic for a question, but there are some who speculate that Adam and Eve were actually created much taller than the average human today. According to one theory, Adam and Eve were about 15 feet tall.
Theories of a super-size Adam start with the fact that people before the flood lived extraordinarily long lives (Adam lived to be 930 years old, according to Genesis 5:5). There’s also the assumption that Adam was created with superior intellect. Through the centuries after the fall, humanity has decreased in longevity, in intellect, and—by extrapolation—in height.
The presence of very large animals and insects in the fossil record lends support to the theory that Adam was very tall. In 1940, the fossilized wing of Meganeuropsis americana was unearthed in Oklahoma. This dragonfly-like insect had a wingspan of almost two and a half feet (Harvard Magazine, Nov-Dec 2007, “DRAGONfly,” www.harvardmagazine.com, accessed 5/20/20). In 2020, fossils of giant turtles were found in northern South America: the shell of Stupendemys geographicus measures nearly nine and a half feet long, about 100 times the size of its nearest living relative (The Washington Post, Feb 13, 2020, “Turtles the Size of a Car Once Roamed the Earth. Scientists Just Found Their Fossils,” Reis Thebault, www.washingtonpost.com/science, accessed 5/20/20). Those who conjecture that Adam was taller than modern man reason that, if the animals were extra big in “prehistoric” times, why not humans?
Another bit of “evidence” suggesting that Adam was of great height is the mention of “giants” in the Bible: the Amorites of Canaan, the Rephaim, and Goliath the Philistine, for example. When encountering the people of Canaan, the majority of the Israelite spies claimed that “the land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size” (Numbers 13:32). Amos states how the Amorites were tall in stature, hyperbolically comparing them to tall cedar trees (Amos 2:9). A Rephaite, King Og of Bashan, who opposed the Israelites in Moses’ time, is also described as a giant in the Bible, having a bed that was “more than nine cubits long and four cubits wide” (Deuteronomy 3:11). If the bed matched his stature, then Og could have been around 13 feet tall. Furthermore, Goliath is described as being six cubits and a span, which is over nine feet in height (1 Samuel 17:4). Could the great stature of these historical characters be a residual effect of Adam’s genetics? Some say “yes.”
There is also the occurrence of gigantism in humans. Robert Wadlow was measured at 8 ft, 11.1 in. before his death in 1940 (“The Tallest Man Ever,” www.guinnessworldrecords.com, accessed 5/20/20). It is doubtful, however, that people like Wadlow are proof that Adam was as tall: modern gigantism is a physical disorder, and individuals who grow to excessive heights almost always struggle with heart and circulatory problems. And EGW " As Adam came forth from the hand of his Creator…He was more than twice as tall as men now living upon the earth…Eve was not quite as tall as Adam. Her head reached a little above his shoulders." (Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3 p.34). ------------------ D" Then why Does Gen 6 speak of a different group if they were all giants?
Genesis 4 introduces two lines of humans, Seth and Cain, this is why one is called the Sons of God, the other the Sons of Men. Genesis 5 is a family tree Genesis 6 is the first detailed account of the humans from both lines: Ge 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; Some from Seth's line mixed marriages with some from Cain's line. D" Where are the 6 fingered giant today – show me oneLast modern case of one is audio taped by USA soldiers from a giant in Afghanistan. in recent times. exonews.org/u-s-soldier-claims-to-have-shot-killed-a-12-foot-giant-in-afghanistan/Might be OK and credible? D"Hmmm? If this is truth – why doesn’t anyone in the world believe it With each and every UFO sighting – just how many people us it to validate scripture And why are you unable to witness tot=y our UFO neighbor
Deceive the very elect, remember? Sinning angels are clever, powerful and better than humans in brain power. D" Question - is it your mission to defend satan on every post?
R I do not defend Satan, only present truth as I see it. Personally Satan is a fallen foe, fight the good fight of faith the torah says. Personally Jesus is my friend, nothing else matters. Shalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 26, 2021 7:08:57 GMT -5
how tall was Adam Question: "How tall was Adam?" The presence of very large animals and insects in the fossil record lends support to the theory that Adam was very tall. You see why it is so confusing to grasp your flip flop religion For months you argue that the fossil record means nothing – it is error You even offered the idea that all the dinos were post flood Now you use the fossil record to validate your point - preflood Another bit of “evidence” suggesting that Adam was of great height is the mention of “giants” in the Bible: the Amorites of Canaan, the Rephaim, and Goliath the Philistine, for example. So – you teach that Adam and Eve were children of the bane elohiym – the Israelis are Rephiem just like the Amorite
There is also the occurrence of gigantism in humans. Robert Wadlow was measured at 8 ft, 11.1 in. before his death in 1940 (“The Tallest Man Ever,” www.guinnessworldrecords.com, accessed 5/20/20). Did he have 6 fingers? How many skull plates did he have? 3 like all homo sapiens?And EGW "As Adam came forth from the hand of his Creator…He was more than twice as tall as men now living upon the earth…Eve was not quite as tall as Adam. Her head reached a little above his shoulders." (Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3 p.34). Ellen White is not scriptureI asked for a scripture - all you answer with is the presepts of men------------------ D" Then why Does Gen 6 speak of a different group if they were all giants? Some from Seth's line mixed marriages with some from Cain's line. You see why it is so confusing to grasp your flip flop religion First you argue – no men in heaven – only memories – you even deny First Fruits Now you say the son’s of Seth were in heaven – reporting to God D" Where are the 6 fingered giant today – show me one Last modern case of one is audio taped by USA soldiers from a giant in Afghanistan. in recent times. Careful – that 6 fingered giant is 100% LA MarzulliD"Hmmm? If this is truth – why doesn’t anyone in the world believe it With each and every UFO sighting – just how many people use it to validate scripture And why are you unable to witness to your UFO neighbor Deceive the very elect, remember? So what are you saying – you are deceived? – or the WORLD If you are not deceived – why can’t you communicate this to your neighbor Our mission on earth is to witness – what is stopping you OH I KNOW - that would be your satanology - that noone accepts - anymoreD" Question - is it your mission to defend satan on every post? R I do not defend Satan, only present truth as I see it. And all you see is Catholic Catechism – Why do deny your Catholic heritage and to make your Catholic catacism fit your scripture - you flip flop to defend the 'strong authority' of satan While some of us think satan has no authority over us Not all of us believe he is ruled by satan Ufology and the New Religion: Lucia, Alan: 9780982653364 ...https://www.amazon.com › Ufology-New-Religion-Ala... Publisher : Oaklight Publishing; 1st edition (March 3, 2011) · Language : English · Paperback : 258 pages · ISBN-10 : 0982653360 · ISBN-13 : 978-0982653364 · Item ... UFO religion - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › UFO_religion Universal Industrial Church of the New World Comforter — For the examination of theological issues as they pertain to extraterrestrial intelligence, ... Notable UFO religions · Raëlism · Universal Industrial... · UFOs in other Non-UFO... List of UFO religions - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › List_of_UFO_religions UFO religions are groups which deal with alleged communication between humans and extraterrestrial beings. Proponents often argue that most major religions ... Background · List · Notes The new American religion of UFOs - Voxhttps://www.vox.com › culture › ufo-aliens-american-c... Jun 4, 2019 — Belief in aliens is like faith in religion — and may come to replace it. New religious movement - “Scientific” NRMs: UFO groups and ...https://www.britannica.com › topic › Scientific-NRMs-... New religious movement - New religious movement - “Scientific” NRMs: UFO groups and Scientology: Many NRMs claim to be not religions at all but rather ... Handbook of UFO Religions | Brillhttps://brill.com › view › title The Handbook of UFO Religions, edited by esteemed scholar of new religions Benjamin E. Zeller, offers the most expansive and detailed study of the persistent, ... UFO cult? The Raëlians return to the spotlight in new ...https://fox59.com › news › ufo-cult-the-raelians-return-... Mar 3, 2021 — The world's largest UFO religion is waiting for the return of humanity's creators, a race of extraterrestrials called the Elohim. The Raëlians call ... UFO Phenomena as a New Religion | The Psychology of ...https://u.osu.edu › vanzandt › 2018/04/18 › ufo-pheno... Apr 18, 2018 — In many ways, this fascination has taken on an intensity that borders on religious appeali. For many centuries, we looked to the gods as the ... Review Essay The Study of UFO Religions - JSTORhttps://www.jstor.org › stable by JA Saliba · 2006 · Cited by 9 — Aliens Adored: Raël's UFO Religion. By Susan Palmer. Rutgers University. Press, 2004. 226 pages. $60.00 cloth; $19.95 paper. Encyclopedia of American ... Waiting for the “Big Beam”: UFO Religions and “Ufological ...https://www.oxfordhandbooks.com › view › oxfordhb by A Grünschloß · Cited by 19 — For the most part, UFO religions were not taken seriously until after the Heavens Gate suicides in early 1997. Since that time, more and more scholarly
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2021 13:32:36 GMT -5
D" I asked for a scripture -
R Man was given the ability to reason? I remember reading 30 years ago of a Japanese scientist doing experiments in a preflood world, lots of humidity, remove radiation, increase O2 level, and provide better soil, etc. He found animals grew larger and lived longer. I think he ran the O2 levels to 27 % much more than we have today.
You have to assume the preflood world was perfect, not flawed like ours is now. Part of your idea is that GOD made a flawed world from the beginning.
Other evidence is the length of Noah's boat. Ron Wyatt found a replica, that uses the older Egyptian cubits, but the real boat higher up in the mountains is broken in three pieces by glacier is much much longer, meaning the cubit is around 50cms, hence the preflood human was bigger, than the Egyptian 40cms cubit today. We have very little evidence of Noah's boat, the Turks do not allow us to visit this relic.
As for sons of Gods in Job, these were I think other unfallen princes from other planets from other worlds, who came to visit God each Sabbath? Since Satan became prince through making prince Adam fall, He was allowed to attend such meetings.
As for aliens, well I told my neighbour, but he is fixed on the video deception. Sure the angels can make things look real. But such is their sins of deception.
It is more evidence that such angels sin, they deceive, they do false witness.
One day Satan comes in a flying ship like Jesus in dazzling light, 15 feet tall, with 12 voice harmony, just to show cameras proof He is real, but this is Antichrist, not the real Jesus, and the entire world except 144,000 are deceived by this event. My details may be off a little, but the overall deception will be real and literal.This event happens around 1 year or 1 1/2 years after global Sunday law Sabbath begins, which becomes a global mark of worship the one world government idea. Coming soon.
SHalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 27, 2021 12:30:19 GMT -5
D" I asked for a scripture - R Man was given the ability to reason? What ever happened to precept upon precept, line upon line What about scripture validating itself
You have to assume the preflood world was perfect, not flawed like ours is now. Oh My Gosh Robert – you will say anything Gen 6:7 So Adonai said, “I will wipe out humankind, whom I have created, from the face of the ground, from humankind to livestock, crawling things and the flying creatures of the sky, because I regret that I made them.”
As for sons of Gods in Job, these were I think other unfallen princes from other planets from other worlds, who came to visit WHAT - you have been aguing these were men from the linage of SETH As for aliens, well I told my neighbor, but he is fixed on the video deception. Sure the angels can make things look real. But such is their sins of deception. AND the reason is – you cannot speak his language
First you have to get him to believe that his biological alien creatures are angels Then you have to get him to convert to Catholicism So you can explain the Catholic doctrine of Fallen Angels
you are unprepared to discuss anything except “Fallen Angels” – so he just tuned you out Why can’t you see scripture in his video presentation – Gnostic sure do - LA Marzulli would
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2021 13:34:51 GMT -5
Why can’t you see scripture in his video presentation
The only scripture LA Marzulli presents, is the In the Days of Noah so shall Jesus coming be?
What was going on in the days of Noah?
Ge 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
What is the greatest evil identified in Scripture?
H8162 In ancient Hebrew is the "Pressed eye covers over the nations (is) ploughed"
Strange mixture of letter meanings.
Le 19:19 ¶ Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
I thought this meant do not make hybrids, but it means things far worse than hybridization, I now know it means GMO.
Ancient man before the flood were practicing GM on humans, on animals and on plants, just as we are starting to do this idea again today.
The radio chip implant we saw is a ploy by intelligent beings (sinning angels) to use frequencies to control human cells. We are beginning to use this all over the world too, with nanobot cellular things in the COV19 vaccines that people take, so the 5G frequencies can be used to control human cells in various ways. There are many accounts of humans being affects remotely from this idea, such as blood clotting from being close to other humans who are vaccinated. Such video evidence is removed from the www as government satanic agencies try to keep truth from the general public.
For me, the rise of GM controlled humans is happening, as we approach the days of Noah.
Your LA Marzulli about aliens making different humans is also a deception used to get humans used to aliens, which is what an angel is, isn't it?
Rather than get engrossed in the RA the one world government is planning, we should instead rally around Jesus and get to know Him deeply. You claim we should know our enemy. I beg to differ. Instead we should know our Saviour.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 28, 2021 7:36:23 GMT -5
Why can’t you see scripture in his video presentation The only scripture LA Marzulli presents, is the In the Days of Noah so shall Jesus coming be? OR – he presents what Jesus meant when he said – this is what it will be like when He returns
What was going on in the days of Noah? What is the greatest evil identified in Scripture? Ancient man before the flood were practicing GM on humans, on animals and on plants, just as we are starting to do this idea again today. Sometimes you clain that these opposers are angels – they cannot be archon Then you argue that these opposers are man – they cannot be archon SO CONFUSING – you speak out of both side of your mouth
Rather than get engrossed in the RA the one world government is planning, we should instead rally around Jesus and get to know Him deeply. You claim we should know our enemy. I beg to differ. Instead we should know our Saviour.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, …
DENY SCRIPTURE IF YOU CHOOSE – IGNORANCE IS ALWAYS A GOOD DEFENSE
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2021 13:37:41 GMT -5
Ro 10:1 ¶ Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
How do you read this passage Dave? What Hebrew words are important here?
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Post by Dave on Apr 29, 2021 8:10:25 GMT -5
Ro 10:1 -9 What Hebrew words are important here? This is so easy My Answer = Napakadali nito - Hindi ako mahuhulog sa iyong katanungan sa trick WALANG HEBREW WORDS ORIGIONALLY WRITTEN DITO (google) Nagtanong din ang mga tao - Anong wika ang orihinal na isinulat sa aklat ng Mga Romano? Sagot = Greek (google) Nagtanong din ang mga tao - Bakit nagsasalita ng Griyego ang mga Romano? Sagot = Kadalasang hinahangaan ng mga Romano ang kulturang Griyego, at maraming edukadong Romano at emperador ang nag-aral ng kanilang Greek mismo. (google) Nagtanong ang mga tao - ano ang wikang sinasalita sa Roma noong ika-1 siglo AD Sagot = Latin at Greek ang mga opisyal na wika ng Roman Empire, Tanong - bakit sumulat si Paul sa Greek na nagsasalita ng mga Romano sa isang forgien languafge na hindi nila mabasa O - mayroon ka bang katibayan na ang lahat ng mga Romano ay maaaring mabasa at sumulat ng hrebrew? Ano ang tunay na halaga ng pagsasalin ng daanan na ito sa Russian o Tagalog o Swahili At pagkatapos ay pinagtatalunan ang mga bagong salin na salita - sa halip na ang orihinal na Griyego In case you didn't understand the finer points of my answer - here is a translationThis is so easy – I will not fall for your trick questionTHERE ARE NO HEBREW WORDS ORIGIONALLY WRITTEN HERE(google) People also ask - What language was the book of Romans originally written in? Answer = Greek (google) People also ask - Why did the Romans speak Greek? Answer = The Romans often admired the Greek culture, and many educated Romans and emperors studied Greek themselves. (google) People ask – what was the language spoken in Rome during the 1st century AD Answer = Latin and Greek were the official languages of the Roman Empire, Question - why would Paul write to the Greek speaking Romans in a forgien languafge they could not read OR - do you have evidence that the Romans all could read and write hrebrew? What is the true value of translating this passage into Russian or Tagalog or Swahili And then arguing those new translated words - instead of the original Greek This is famous passage - a verse every Christian knows - which words do you wish to argueSapagka't gayon na lamang ang pagsinta ng Dios sa sanglibutan, na ibinigay niya ang kaniyang bugtong na Anak, upang ang sinomang sa kaniya'y sumampalataya ay huwag mapahamak, kundi magkaroon ng buhay na walang hanggan.
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