Don Patton and Creation MinistriesIs where this thread started – and the entire point of my ministry =
Science validating Scripture – Scripture validating GodGnostic = inclusion of all the data - Why?
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Psa 19:1 … The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork.
because it must all point to the One True Creator
Robert - Why does this revelation threaten you as a Christian?Intelligent study – leads one to the intelligent conclusion – there is an Intelligent Designer
Why does this revelation threaten you as a Christian?-------------------
I did not watch the videos I posted – I know Jordan Peterson well – I went looking for that clip
The others I just grabbed from different fields – physics – biology – genetics – and psychology
I did watch the first one long enough to hear the guy say – I knew there was MORE but could not stomach church and had zero interest in religion
More along the same line - Intelligent study – leads one to the intelligent conclusion – there is an Intelligent DesignerQuestion to Robert – why would an intelligent man say – I knew there was MORE but could not stomach church and had zero interest in religion
Question to Robert – why do a lot of people today say – they are spiritual but not religious?
Answer – if they come to church looking for MORE – all they find is Don Patton – Ken Hamm
If there is no truth in it – should they believe it?
They have spent all their lives in research – deep science – they know there is MORE
All the church and religion has to offer them = bull shit
You even say – do not bother witnessing to them-------------
Do you understand ‘Trickle Down Theory’Government spends the money and it trickles down through the economy to the little guy
Information also ‘Trickles Down’ – the whole function of propaganda and indoctrination
1852 – No one on the planet was concerned about evolution
1853 – Darwin published
For 75 years it was the topic of the scientific elite
1925 – it became public education – it went into the text books
TODAY – the topic of discussion by the scientific elite = Intelligent Design
I want it to be the texts books to children ASAP!
You say – do not bother witnessing to them
In fact – you teach they are all wrong – make them the enemy – they believe in scienceSorry Buddy – NOT A CHRISTIAN ATTITUDE------------------
This passage tells us that the Father's forgiveness is conditional.Let’s seeMt 18:27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
YEP – some said – I am a Christian – I believe – therefore he is saved – belief is all that is required
Then proved that he was NOT walking in the Spirit – Not being a good witness for the Lord
Correct - agree32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
This passage tells us that the Father's forgiveness is conditional.NO SIR – it does notIt says - delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him. - delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
The sinner is required daily to do certain conditions, and it those conditions are not done, the Father will not forgive you.Why do teach that salvation is temporary?25 Bible Verses About Once Saved Always Saved (KJV)https://reformedwiki.com › verses › kjv
Bible Verses About Once Saved Always Saved ; Hebrews 6:4-6. 4 ; John 10:27-30. 27 ; Hebrews 10:26. 26 ; James 5:19-20. 19 ; 2 Peter 2:20-22. 20 ...
100 Bible Verses about No One Will Pluck You Out Of My Handwww.openbible.info › topics › no_one_will_plu...
All that the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never cast out. For I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will but the ...
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Why do you preach doubt?Ro 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
I agree with you You say anyone can say this and they are saved – just say the wordsI say – there is a difference between the pretender and the believer and the Born AgainPretenders are nothing more than pretenders – and Christ will say – I never knew you
Believers come in all sizes and shapes with various degrees of faith
2Co 5:10 For we (pretenders – believers - and Born Again) must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
Pretenders and believers = Proportional Punishment
And await the First Resurrection
Born Again Christians – that Die in Christ – receive the Divine Pardon and become the First Fruits
And are serving the Lord around the Throne before the First Resurrection
1Jo 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
You and I disagree what abideth means –
you say it is Faith –
I say it is walking in the Spirit / Communion
When you fight the good fight you are claiming prayer promises that remove missing in your life and thus do know Jesus intimately because of faith in Him.
YES – this is a thing to do – a practice to practiceHowever most see faith as some belief concept or some gnosis idea that some knowledge is superior, that if we experience the HS empowering us will never forget.There ya go – finally you are honest – you fear what you do not know – or are jealous of other Christiansor some gnosis idea that some knowledge is superior,Why do you deny the Baptism of the Holy Spirit – have you never spend any time studying the Book of Acts?My understanding is faith is a doing process, in which one can do daily or forget to do daily. Neither is faith a ritual or an act of worship.
Why do you deny the Baptism of the Holy Spirit – have you never spend any time studying the Book of Acts?Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
The disciples were all believers – why were they promised more – Baptism of the Holy SpiritAct 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Act 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
Act 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Act 8:17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Act 19:2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
Act 19:3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
Act 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Act 19:5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
Act 19:6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
However most see faith as some belief concept or some gnosis idea that some knowledge is superior, that if we experience the HS empowering us will never forget.Pretenders – believers – and the Born Again
Why do you deny scripture – Answer – you must deny scripture so you can continue denying the spirit
1Th 5:16 Rejoice evermore.
1Th 5:17 Pray without ceasing.
1Th 5:18 In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you.
1Th 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
1Th 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.