Hmmmm....Interesting....
We differ a little with regards to this "fallen cherub who sinned".... have a look at what this "wicked one" did....to humanity, after humanity sinned...
Mt 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this.
What are tares? Plant DNA that is changed or altered in some way to become dysfunctional plants, we humans term weeds.
I will present a few verses from a study of "aven"
spiritualsprings.org/ss-1135.htm(5) Job 5:6 Although affliction (aven) cometh not forth of the dust , neither doth trouble spring out of the ground ;
Although dysfunction (aven) cometh not forth of the dust...
A poetry comment that suggests genetic propensities for dysfunction did not come from GOD who made all genetics from the dust of the ground, thus we have to look for dysfunctional genes elsewhere..
(8) Job 15:35 They conceive mischief , and bring forth vanity (aven) , and their belly prepareth deceit .
They conceive mischief , and bring forth "yalad" dysfunction (aven)
This is our first major clue to genetic expression because of the Hebrew word "yalad" here meaning to "born" something. Genetic dysfunctional expression can be born, in other words inherited genetically. This does not mean all bad moral behaviour overrides our cognitive choices, but it does suggest there is a genetic propensity for evil, if our cognitive mind chooses to follow our genotype.
(9) Job 21:19 God layeth up his iniquity (aven) for his children : he rewardeth him, and he shall know it.
God layeth up his genetic functional propensities (aven) for his children..
Since this poetry comment is written in the negative, it also has a contrasting positive as well.
God layeth up his genetic functional vigour (aven) for his children..
What we need to see is how the genetic potential in all of us is expressed depends much upon us, our parents and our environment we respond to.
When the verse says God layeth up genetic dysfunction, does that mean God is the author of bad genes or propensities to evil ? No.
Isa 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil "ra" (dysfunction): I the LORD do all these things.
God is the Administrator of good and bad affects in our universe, but He is not the Author of dysfunction, even though He sustains the observational affects of dysfunction.
•Mt 13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
• 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this.
• Mt 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil;
• Re 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world
The enemy of GOD and His created world who engineers functional plants to become weeds is Satan. Therefore changing the genetic expression of genes to become dysfunctional in their expression is engineered by Satan. There would be some natural dysfunctional changes caused by radiation and genetic copying mistakes, and there would also be deliberate changes to gene expression to make organisms become dysfunctional. The only way GOD who foresaw Satan engineering his word of spoiling God's work of functional expression, and thus allow mankind time for development of character upon the earth to run naturally for a limited time, would have been for GOD to engineer enormous complexity within the DNA complex sequenced information, so that Satanic and human agencies could not completely understand it, and with complex redundancies built into the biological systems, allow them to work functionally despite the messing up of their network of systems.
Summary:
What are tares similes of propensities? Human DNA that is changed or altered in some way to become dysfunctional humans, we humans term propensities.
Where did this changed DNA come from? From the enemy Satan.
Why did the DNA change? Because Adam sinned. There was a change of ruler as 'Prince'.
How can you overcome such 'epi-genetic' propensities? You can't without God's help.
Is there a verse for this idea? Yes
Ex 23:20 ¶ Behold, I send an Angel (messenger- My SON Jesus) before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
The Book of Moses contains the salvation message of Jesus, the messenger from the Father, beware of Him.... Obey His voice... Father's Name is in Jesus.
What does Jesus promise to do for us humans with propensities?
Ex 23:24 Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.
25 And ye shall serve the LORD your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.
Notice the enemies are literal and real, we have real problems in our world confronting us as well as internal sicknesses as well, all that Jesus promises to remove...
Ex 23:29 I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee.
30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.
Why are these propensities removed little by little, gradually, not all at once?
"lest the land become desolate," what does this poetry simile mean?
A propensity is best removed by flooding it with a Jesus centered habit, rather than creating a empty space in your mind.
Many false religion try to empty the mind of all things, but Jesus teaches us to flood the mind with Himself and thus us supporting His words, He supports us back.
The best way I have found to remove weeds in a garden is to flood the garden with stronger plants that out compete the weed, and choke it out.
How do you get stronger plants? You feed it on the Word, fertilize it, water it with the HS, and pray for the Father to empower it with healthy growing.
Dave asks: "If you preach to a mortal Christian that true Christians are Incapable of sinning then how would they ever feel like Christians...
In the shadow experiment, science explains things: have a look at this study:
spiritualsprings.org/ss-759.htm towards the end, the study talks about focal point, the cross over point....
In my daily walking with Jesus, I pray minute by minute, how much I am not supporting GOD as I should... in the presence of others, I could pray for the promise:
Jas 1:26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
Much of my public appearance before others is an empty storm "vain". I speak using my Master powers of Self, rather than asking GOD "what do I say to them now?"
Surrender is "your arms at HOME with GOD always PRESSING for His power", every the common words we speak to others.
Our study of this vital subject so far:
spiritualsprings.org/ss-1523.htmBut you raise difficult question, Dave, the above links are my response....in general it's a big topic you raise...
Shalom