Floods in Duluth,MN

[Virginia]

My nephew lives in Duluth,mn and they are experiencing torrential rains and every thing is flooded and bridges are failling down. I sent my brother in Prescott that perhaps the HAARP facility in Alaska moved clouds and that caused the rain. He said he never heard of HAARP but I told him to google it. They even think this facility can cause earth quakes. Maybe some of the members may be interested to look up HAARP.

[Dave]

You must have read my mind - we just watched a documentary about HARRP causing earthquakes - Iran, Turkey, possibly Japan last year.

Wouldn't put it past my government at all. Perhaps shifting the weather might be unfortunate for those in its path - but what about the global effects? If it is raining in Canada and Minnesota - someplace else must also be affected. Would my government throw many of her population in weathers
wrath to affect a drouth or earthquake in Iran - absolutely - YES!

[Virginia]

Jesse Ventura did an entire show about HAARP. People in the neighborhood of this facility also claim mind control but I probably would not gothat far. I agree with you that we are playing with fire here. We don't know what this could cause. It is just like the manipulating the food supply. We will play around and find we have destroyed our food supply by playing around with the genes of plants. Don't sometimes you feel that people cannot see farther than the end of their noses.

[Virginia]

Talking about screwing stuff up, I was watching a tv show about Mars. The scientists said if we could just warm up Mars -------oh wait a minute------we alreadyknow how to heat up a planet.

[Dillon]

Did you know, that not only does America have the HARRP facility in Alaska. They have 2 facilities in Alaska and one in Porto Rico. Not only that but Russia has two, China has two, and even the Netherlands has one.

Imagine - Russia targeting China and America, China targeting Russia and America; and America is targeting everybody. Talk about confusing weather signals to Mother Nature...... no wonder the weather is a mess.

[Virginia]

Dillon, how do we know what you ponder is not already happening. We notonly have HAARP with the ability to manipulate weather but we have the oil companies using a method to extrack oil from deeo under ground called "FRACKING". This method of pumping toxic chemicals deep under ground is contaminating our water supplies. There are parts of our country where people turn on their kitchen facetes and they can light the water on fire. We don't need to go to war to deistroy our planet because we are doing a good job of it ourselves.We need to start taking care of our earth like the Hopi indians and others have tryed to do.

[Virginia]

Would you believe I turn on the tv and there is T.Boone Pickens talking about "FRACKING" and he said there is no evidence that "FRACKING" contaminates the water supply. Well I know that is a big fat LIE.

[Dave]

Girl - you have just scratched the surface of the conspiracy.

You talk about HARRP - today
UFOs, Aliens, Area 51 (You should really check out Dulce N.M.)

Do you really think Osama bin Laden - planned and executed 911?
I find it interesting that The 911 'Omission' Report is the only official version of a National disaster that had a 10 yr anniversary documentary to prove it could have happened as the official story claims. However, 911 is used to justify our global war on terrorism.. Now we can bomb, invade and occupy any country we choose.

The Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a bold ass lie - needed to justify the Viet Nam War
The Warren Omission Report is the official version of the JFK assassination
The Brookins Report informs the elite how to deal with 'Full Disclosure' and recommends that the population is not ready, by the whole we are too stupid to deal with an Alien reality. The public should be protected by such news.
Just where did the HIV virus come from and how did it get into the human population? Gay men were made the brunt of hate crimes, predigest, negative image; yet here we are 20 years later and to be Gay is cool. Same sex marriage laws are the common topic. HIV has become old news, but a lot of pharmaceutical research happen on the population.
The Kinsey Report told us about our sexual habits and we have become more permisquous as a society, even with the risk of HIV.
Was Roswell a poorly performed coverup, or a clever tip of the government's hand in a negotiations with Aliens. the government will deny their existence; in exchange the Alien's shared technology and was given permission to experiment on the population. Do the research, UFO are seen worldwide, while alien abductions belong to the US and UK.
The Bombing of Pearl Harbor was no surprise, but a necessary evil to rally the country into WWII
Rockefeller merges in business with IG Farbin of Germany. Rockefeller sells oil to Hitler through Switzerland and IG Farbin becomes Dr Joseph Mengela and Auschwitz. Those terrible Germans that gave us hysterectomy procedures, several other surgical procedures, much research on drugs used directly on a human population - like perhaps the use of FLUORIDE in the water supply. Fluoride was a toxic waste before WWII, but the Germans and Russians both used it in the drinking water of prison camps. Why? To dull the herd, reduce IQ, make the population manageable. After WWII most Western countries add fluoride to the public water supply.
Thousands of American civilians died on the Luctiania, which wasn't carrying munitions to England, but exploded and sank at lightning speed (world record speed actually), rallied the population into WWI
Woodrow Wilson won the presidency on a platform of neutrality and staying out of the war in Europe, but within 5 months The Federal Reserve Act was signed into law and 400,000 US Troops were on their way to Europe. Again much research is carried out on a grand human population scale by chemical weapons of mass destruction.
Just how much of the world did the Rockefeller Empire change. Exxon-Mobile is the largest company in the world. Pharmaceuticals dominate "modern medicine" and 80% of the population are trapped within the medical machine and sooner or later we each are turned into a cash cow customer for as long as they can keep us alive. the dollars earned for each cancer patient in the country should be criminal.
Just what did the Laural Spellman Foundation learn? Laural Spellman being the wife of JD Rockefeller Sr. Her foundation was directed at education. From this foundation legacy we attribute programs like the Dept of Education, Project Head Start, and No Child Left behind. The Laura Spellman Foundation didn't last long before it was dissolved and the research absorbed by the parent foundation "The Rockefeller Foundation." Which turned right around and fathered the birth of Time-Warner, NBC, Life, Look, NPR, TBS and Fox News, as well as, the Rupert Murdock Empire of CNN, CBS, Reuters, BBC, NY Times, and AP. Oh and don't forget Hollywood! Together these media outlets brainwash populations - they teach us what to think ... what to buy ... what is popular, ... who should be elected ... which wars to support .. and which reports to listen too.

You want to take the conspiracy back even further would should look up Gen Albert Pike. The only Confederate General to have a statue in Washington DC. He wrote the Freemason's handbook: Morals and Dogma. He also wrote in 1872 that 3 world wars would have to take place before a one world government could take hold of the planet. In his book he clearly states that Lucifer / Satan / The Devil is the master of this world and worldly sucess is possible through His support

The first war is to fought between the German peoples and the Europe to establish communism in Russia and birth the fascist. (1917 Russian revolution - 1923 NAZI party formed)
The second war would have to be fought between the fascist and Zion to establish a Hebrew homeland in Palestine. (WWII over 9/1945 Israel is recognized as a country 4/1948)
The third world war is to be fought between the religious ideologies of East versus West. The hurt upon the world population will be so great that cause the global population to throw off religious beliefs - Jew, Christian and Islam; and then become open for a new rule. With reduced populations throughout the world, after the herd has been culled, the survivors will love any new leadership that can deliver order to chaos. Supplies and Natural resources are going to once again feel boundless. Once the dust settles and the remaining population's lives return to a normal routine, life with a one world government providing global cooperation and trade to more evenly distribute now abundant global resources will feel pretty wonderful; especially to those who actually survived the coming global social readjustment - Tribulation times - Holocaust - apocalyptic - WWIII

Imagine if this is the moment when Aliens finally land at the UN offering help to restore order and peace throughout the globe. Imagine if these nice and helpful Aliens endorsed one leader over the rest. The New World Order with its "new space friends easily take over all world power - visions of 1984, and Brave New World come to mind. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few is the perfect political platform. But in practice it is the violated rights of the many that, in turn, serve the needs of a few elite is the manifestation of the Beast of Revelation. That conspiracy story is much older and was first penned around 600 BC by Ezekiel:38.

[Stella]

This is almost the Plot of the movie, The Book of Eli.

The Book was responsible for the war over ideological points of view that changed society into a post apocalyptic culture. Every effort to erase the Book was made. Only one surviving copy finds its way back into society and the printing press, because this same book will also save humanity.

The Bible - beginning and end of the story.

[Dave]

Hey there caught me mid post,

I just watch the movie - The Book of Eli - because my sister was watching it and thought it worthy of sibling conversation.

A couple of points jumped out at me:
1. How cruel life will be without law and order. It will really be a Mad Max Beyond the Thunderdome, Postman, everyman for himself World.
2. Even tho the people blamed the book for the social change - they hungered for it still - and the same question are on their lips as ours, and as long ago - why?
3. When the message of the Bible is finally communicated - it isn't done in the usual way - as always, there is a spin

[Virginia]

I have seen several shows about Dulce,NM and it is another secret facility like Area 51. Culling the Herd is a real thing going on. Just look at the flu shots we are all urged to take. I was on an osteroposis medicine which now I am told will made your leg break for no reason. I no longer take it but perhaps the damage is already done. There is a class action law suit going on right now on it. The CEO of Merke Far. was on tv and he said they will never cure cancer but if you take 15 pills each day you will still have cancer but it will not kill you. When they claim they cured polio a lot of people lost a whole lot of money and they decided they would never again cure anything. Just look at the BILLIONS Jerry Lewis callected for MS or whatever it was for. I don,t know because I never watched it but I did hear how much people donated. Tell me what they cured?How do we know Osama Bin Ladin was really killed? Gulf of Tonkin big lie just like Weapons of mass destruction. Warren Comm a big cover up. I heard they only met 6 times. Jesse Ventura when he was on Piers Morgan he said the news programs make up much of the news to make it more news worthy. All the problems in the world and CNN spent an entire month on Anna Nicole Smith. Was nothing else happening in the world that month? I used to watch Oprah but she too went Hollywood and I have not watched her again. I heard yesterday her network is'nt doing so good.

[Virginia]

Just one more comment about 911. Why was the government so anxious to pay off the families of those who died? Did our government pay off the families of the Mer building when it was bombed? Just pondering.

[Richard]

The sooner you can get the money into peoples hands the sooner they have to sign some agreement stating they will never question the official government story. Also, 911 victims were killed in an act of war, while the victims in Oklahoma City were just victims of a radical.

However, many of the interior bomb placements and cordite use were successfully tested. Remember, along with Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nicols, there was a third guy - that the FBI stopped looking for.

[Virginia]

I have watched the film of 911 many many times and there was definitly explosions at the bottom of the buildings. This explosive was thought to have been put in the paint. Painters had no idea it was in the paint. There were crews painting in those buildings on a daily basis so many offices had explosives on the walls. Re-painting those offices was an ongoing affair.

[Dillon]

Have you seen the movie - Loose Change?

www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyiwOJ2pnGg

It is at the very Heart of the Truth Movement

The next best movie out there is - Zietgeist
Which is a 3 part movie. Part one is NOT supported by historical evidence. Many many critics hammer part one for tremendously bad research. Part two is essentially the "Loose Change" movie in brief. Good stuff to Ponder there. Part three is the whole financial 'usury' Beast o Revelation. The system becomes so large that the system become the controlling power with a life of its own. 1984, Brave new World, Metropolis, Matrix.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=guXirzknYYE

Because Zietgeist is a 3 part series. It is impossible to discus it all together. Each part is a discussion of its own. Part one is 40 minutes worth of crap and unworthy of a discussion. If you want to watch this movie - and Parts 2 and 3 are well done - I recommend starting in at Part 2 @ 40 min.

If you watch loose Change first - Zietgeist part 2 will make a lot more sense.

Zietgeist Part 3 is the best video addressing the world bank.