D" Angels do – archon do not
Messengers of the Lord do - messengers of the Beast do not
R" I see. So you see two different creatures.
1) Angels/cherubims have yester tov only and are messengers of God who praise, etc.
2) Archons are made with some matter with entropy have only yester ra, are also messengers of the BEAST. These messengers do what the Beast tells them to do.
Absolutely – I have always said thisWho is the beast, and where is he created in Scripture?Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; …
Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
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Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Gen 1:2 … and darkness was upon the face of the deep -
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Gen 1:3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. - (light = the Truth of God)
Rev 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
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Gen 1:4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: …
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:
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I get the archons are shedim, so where does Scripture speak of their creation?Gen 1:1-4 is the strory of creation
Rev 12:1-9 is the story of creation
The Beast just appeared because he is entropy – the by-product of / inherent to creation
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You often show a general creation, the Lord created all things. OK, but specifically where is the term bara used for the shedim, in the OT?Where is the OT bara of ammonium by-sulfate or calcium carbonate – it doesn’t and they exist
Where in the OT bara of oxidation – iron oxides – or aluminum oxides –it doesn’t’ but RUST and CORROSION exist
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D:" They just do what they do because they are of the BEAST - entropy
R" I see.
OK these archons are shedim and very real creatures. So where did they come from?
Does Scripture tell us where the shedim came from, ie created?Shall I quote the same verse over and over againCol 1:16 - by Him for Him
John 1:3 – everything that was made was made by Him
Rev 4:11 – made it all for His pleasure
Isa 45:5-7 – the good and the bad
Prov 16:4 – all made by Him for a purpose – even the wicked
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D" If you place a hungry lion on a sheep herd – does the lion change its nature – or sin by eating the sheep
If you place a hungry shark in a fish tank – does the shark change its nature – or sin by eating your fish
If you eat bacteria in rotten food – does it change its nature – or sin by making you sick
The bane elohiyn were on earth – they went forth were fruitful and multiplied
They just do what they do because they are of the BEAST - entropy
R" Your analogy is strange?
Actually I think it perfectCrocs live in the swamp – there it does what it does
Bring a croc home and put it in the fence with your dog
Question - What is going to happen when the croc gets hungry?
Answer – it will do what it does
The archon were on/in earh first Gen 1:2 - man came later - what is going to happen
Answer – archon will do what archon do
The archon = the Beast of Revelation – it is a serpent race – biological in some form - offspring
It is THE BEAST – beast = biology in some form – go forth multiply – the archon have offspring
King Solomon tells us that the shedim have offspring
Gen 6 tells us the bane elohiym had offspring
Gen 3 tells us that satan has seed – offspring
Archons do more than multiply and do RA.
Part of their nature is also to kill humans, -
NO – they cannot kill – they can drive you mad - or they use other men to do the deed – or they use nature – tornados – storms – bacteria – viruses
drink human blood, make humans sacrifice humans to them, etc.
No one can make you sacrifice your first born child – you have to be willing – agreeable – your choice
Abraham and Isaac! - the archon copy - where do you think they got he idea
Man chose to worship Caesar – just as man chose to worship the other gods Isn't this more than natural?YES – super natural – Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made.
King Solomon tells us they can manipulate nature – wind / rain / fertility
Parlor tricks - Zeus and his lightening bolts
The anti-christ calling down fire from heaven
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Please explain the twisting you make the archons seem nice and friendly?NOT NICE or FRIENDLY – DUHLet’s talk about the friendliest archon – Islamic Jinn -
genies in a bottle – they satisfy SELF – feed self - gives you all your LUST all your DESIRE – all your GREED – (yester ra)
Man might think him friendly – but man is just deceived of the large reality of God and heaven
Man is just absorbed in world – sidetracked with world
Mat 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
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Why do you suggest the archons are bane elohiym ?Precept upon precept, line upon line1- they reproduce – have offspring - Gen 3:15 satan’s seed – Nephilim
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy (alarm )H7321 – רוּעַ - rûa‛ - A primitive root; to mar (especially by breaking); figuratively to split the ears (with sound), that is, shout (for alarm or joy): - blow an alarm, cry (alarm, aloud, out),
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D" The Archon are not angels of the Lord – they are messengers of the Beast
They are created with ‘some matter’ they can be killed on earth in mortal form – evidently the DNA is close enough
R" I thought man was unique, made in the image of God, how can you say their DNA is close to human?
You talk of DNA manipulation of all creation after Eve took a bite – vegetarian sharks
You gripe about GMOs as an abomination
You ask - How can the archon manipulate human DNA?
I will answer with – man does Mat 24:37 “For just as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 4- This is why Og is a giant of a man
R" giant humans need only more growth hormone, many examples exist of humans over 8 feet high... Everything was bigger in the pre flood time of Noah, even insects were 5 times bigger than they are today.
ABSOLUTELY AGREEHowever – this does not rule out that some humans then as with today still carry Nephilim / Rephiem / archon DNA
David Ike – ‘Just outside our field of vision are entities – that are anything but human – that have been manipulating this world from the outside for eons”
How David Ike ‘in ancient days God Kings were the interface between man and the gods – today
THE 13 Families that rule the world – still have this genetic link – that allows possession / manipulation"
David Ike – ‘it is not the men of the Rothschild / Rockefeller / DuPont / Warburg / Windsor bloodlines that will live to see the end result of the conspiracy – it is the entities that use them that will see it’
However – this does not rule out that some humans then as with today still carry Nephilim / Rephiem / archon DNAJust as the Waka Peoples of New Zealand still carry Jewish DNA
Many other Asian carry Denisovan DNA and many Europeans carry Neanderthal DNA
In America – and the world – there have always been NARCOSYSTIC PSYCHPATHS – genetic
Mental Health – close to home – also genetic
Even the GMAT2 gene – the God gene – genetic
D" 5- This is why Israel was commanded to perform GENOCYDE against them
R" Are you saying God created a creature with yester RA that got out of control?
And thus needed wiping out? Why is that?YES – some do – the author of The Archon Invasion Book DOES
YES – some say – Gen 6 was NOT supposed to happen – the Nephilim are NOT supposed to exist
BUT – if you pay attention – these same guys are coming from the perspective of Roma Catholic Fallen Angels
Without the Nag Hammadi – they reach the Roman Catholic traditional Fallen Angel view – but recognize the Nephilim for who they areThe archons have no free will, so God cannot blame them for doing what they naturally do. I do not understand your logic. Please explain.
Are you implying God made a mistake creating archons in the first place?
I wonder how the author of The Archon Invasion Book would answer
Are you suggesting God created the cherub by mistake – or man by mistake?Seriously Robert – I write this heartfelt – my personal belief1- God is omnipotent – and omniscienti.e – He knows everything before it even happens – His creation is His creation and He created just like He wants it – and from His perspective he said it was GOOD – God’s opinion
From Robert’s perspective life is hard and the world is flawed – but that is just Robert’s opinion
2- Did God know Eve would sin – you said yes but God had prepared for it
Did God make Eve sin – NO – God allowed Eve to sin
God’s plan all along – His Plan – His Will – from the foundation
He knew what would happen because it is His creation and he is ABSOLUTE OMNIPOTENT
3- Scripture is cyclic – precept upon precept, line upon line
Over and over the same message – over and over the same story
Gen 1:1,2,3, Create – darkness – correction by the light
THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURE IN 3 VERSES
Reb 12:1-5 Create – darkness – correction by the light
THE ENTIRE SCRIPTURE IN 5 VERSES
Ecc 3:1 To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
Ecc 1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
Ecc 1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
Ecc 1:11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
Scripture is cyclic – precept upon precept, line upon line
Over and over the same message – over and over the same story
Adam in paradise + the serpent = Gen 3:15
Gen 3:15 + Gen 6 = Noah
Noah + Nimrod = Abraham and Israel
The Promise of Canaan + Egypt = Moses
Israel + Judaism/the Holy land = Jesus Christ
Jesus Christ = age of the Gentile – 2nd Coming
Creation/destroyed by the flood + our world/destroyed by fire= New Heaven and Earth
Scripture is cyclic – precept upon precept, line upon line
Over and over the same message – over and over the same story
Authoritative TeachingAnd before anything came into being, it was the Father alone who existed, before the worlds that are in the heavens appeared, or the world that is on the earth, or principality, or authority, or the powers. [...] appear [...] and [...] And nothing came into being without his wish.
He, then, the Father, wishing to reveal his wealth and his glory, brought about this great contest in this world, wishing to make the contestants appear, and make all those who contend leave behind the things that had come into being, and despise them with a lofty, incomprehensible knowledge, and flee to the one who exists.1- The Great Contest
2- contestants – more than one group
3- make all those who contend leave behind the things that had come into being
YES – this world is an illusion – a sub-atomic hologram –
4- and despise them with a lofty, incomprehensible knowledge
YES – be NOT of this World – long for the next – our true home with God
5- with a lofty, incomprehensible knowledge, and flee to the one who exists.
We were in heaven with God since the beginning – our goal is to return to God and home
And (as for) those who contend with us, being adversaries who contend against us, we are to be victorious over their ignorance through our knowledge, since we have already known the Inscrutable One from whom we have come forth. We have nothing in this world, lest the authority of the world that has come into being should detain us in the world6- for those who oppose us - we are to be victorious over their ignorance through our knowledge,
YES – deep inside we all know – because we were in heaven with God from the beginning
YES – the archon are ignorant of God – can only see (yester ra) want and desire – SELF
7- since we have already known the Inscrutable One from whom we have come forth
YES – deep inside we all know – because we were in heaven with God from the beginning
the Inscrutable One
(google) Inscrutable = impossible to understand or interpret.
From God we came – souljourn here (in this contest of reality / Gen 3:15) – and to God we will returnScripture is cyclic – precept upon precept, line upon line
Over and over the same message – over and over the same story
The contest plays over and over – reset and the rules change – reset and the rules change
D"The Beast and the false prophets are already at home in the Lake before the devil is cast in
R" Please explain.
I thought the beast is an archon?
How can archons be already in the Lake of Fire?
Please explain please.
Next post – I will let you chew on what I have said today
You answer – what does scripture sayRev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever