Post by Dave on Jul 16, 2022 5:26:49 GMT -5
R" You didn't even read my study.... so much for a serious discussion
Yes I read over your attempt to change the subject – it is not on point
Yes I read over your attempt to change the subject – it is not on point
You try to make it into something dirty and full of evil RA and dysfunction
R" First of all "aven" is NOT wickedness or idolatry.... prove me wrong.
Stop making up stuff and twisting as you do
Aven" does not mean something dirty nor does it mean full of evil , RA and dysfunction.
KJV translation uses of aven H205
Used Once as – False, Evil, Idol, Sorrow, Trouble, Vain
Used twice as – affliction, to mourn, Unrighteous, Wickedness,
Used three times as – Mischief
Used five times as – Vanity, Wicked
Used as iniquity – 52 times
Gen 1:28 God blessed them and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, fill the land, and conquer it. Rule over the fish of the sea, the flying creatures of the sky, and over every animal that crawls on the land.”
"Aven" the term means "genetic potential" in which dozens of verses exist and they speak of something very similar to the Jewish idea of yester ra.
Why do you teach that the commandment to man = False, Evil, Idol, Sorrow, Trouble, Vain / affliction, To mourn, Unrighteous, Wickedness / Mischief / Vanity, Wicked – OR INIQUITY
It comes in both a positive and negative sense,
Please demonstrate its positive use within scripture
That is what "Aven" means, changing our "genetic potential"
Do you agree with this idea?
Out of the one side of your mouth you preach God does not change
Now you go back to your satan changing God’s creation
D"No one denies that (yester ra) leads to aven
R" That's why I show you a better Hebrew study than your Jewish invented one, which by the way does not have a single Hebrew verse to the idea.
If there are any verses on "yester ha ra" I would love to see them, but as I understand NONE exist.
I would rather study Hebrew words, not Jewish inventions of phrases that do not come from Hebrew words, but from the precepts of men.
INCORRECT – first you want to rewrite scripture to fit your doctrine – then you can argue the a different word
(I can't get any solid Bible studies using yester ra, but I can using "Aven", and it is consistent throughout every verse and context)
What and excuse – so serious
What and excuse – so serious
[BOOK] Demonic Desires:" Yetzer Hara" and the Problem of Evil in Late Antiquity
I Rosen-Zvi - 2011 - books.google.com
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process of internalizing “real” demonic figures, and that the rise of the yetzer in early rabbinic …
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A Sol - Shofar: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Jewish Studies, 2004 - muse.jhu.edu
… yetzer hara, a man would not build a house, take a wife, beget children, or engage in commerce.”
In this sense the yetzer hara … than deny the desires of the yetzer hara in order to live a …
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D Desires - JSTOR
InDemonic Desires, Ishay Rosen-Zvi examines the concept ofyetzer hara, or evil inclination,
and its evolution in biblical and rabbinic literature. Contrary to existing scholarship, which …
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[PDF] researchgate.net
Lechem hara (bad bread), lechem tov (good bread): Survival and sacrifice during the holocaust
J Rawicki, C Ellis - Qualitative Inquiry, 2011 - journals.sagepub.com
… as existing on a spectrum between yetzer hara (evil inclination) and yetzer tov (good inclination).
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Thanatos, Id and the Evil Impulse
MHL Spero - Tradition: A Journal of Orthodox Jewish Thought, 1975 - JSTOR
… in scholastic pursuit of a tenable description of the yetzer hara. For this purpose alone, we
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Jewish Perspectives on Campus Unrest
J Grunblatt - Tradition: A Journal of Orthodox Jewish Thought, 1970 - JSTOR
… yetzer hara energy can be diverted towards yetzer tov goals, yetzer tov energies could be
routed to further yetzer hara … That is, yetzer tov energy can be used to transform the bio-…
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A Solomon - Tradition: A Journal of Orthodox Jewish Thought, 1975 - JSTOR
… over both conscious and un conscious components of the yetzer hara. Similarly, I must
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I Rosen-Zvi - 2011 - books.google.com
… the set phrase “yetzer hara” for the first time. It claims that rabbinic yetzer is a product of a
process of internalizing “real” demonic figures, and that the rise of the yetzer in early rabbinic …
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M Breton - The Iowa Review, 1988 - pubs.lib.uiowa.edu
Yetzer Har? freckles dispersed in improbable places 0 YES I LOOK and my intentions are
evil of kisses … Yetzer Har? …
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Ishay Rosen-Zvi. Demonic Desires: Yetzer Hara and the Problem of Evil in Late Antiquity. Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 2011. 264 pp.
M Hirschman - AJS review, 2013 - cambridge.org
… Demonic Desires: Yetzer Hara and the Problem of Evil in Late … He makes good critical
usage of the extensive previous bibliography on the yetzer, two monographs, and many …
Save Cite Cited by 1 Related articles All 5 versions
[PDF] utoronto.ca
The Rabbis, Gender, and the Yetzer Hara: The Origins and Development of the Evil Inclination
S Towers - Women in Judaism: A Multidisciplinary e …, 2018 - wjudaism.library.utoronto.ca
… , yetzer hara will be translated as the evil inclination. In rabbinic texts, the yetzer hara becomes
… This paper seeks to further understanding of the relation between yetzer hara and gender …
Save Cite All 2 versions
" Were it not for the yetzer hara": eating, knowledge, and the physical in Jonathan Rosen's Eve's Apple
A Sol - Shofar: An Interdisciplinary Journal of Jewish Studies, 2004 - muse.jhu.edu
… yetzer hara, a man would not build a house, take a wife, beget children, or engage in commerce.”
In this sense the yetzer hara … than deny the desires of the yetzer hara in order to live a …
Save Cite Related articles All 4 versions
Demonic Desires:" Yetzer Hara" and the Problem of Evil in Late Antiquity
D Desires - JSTOR
InDemonic Desires, Ishay Rosen-Zvi examines the concept ofyetzer hara, or evil inclination,
and its evolution in biblical and rabbinic literature. Contrary to existing scholarship, which …
Save Cite All 2 versions
[PDF] researchgate.net
Lechem hara (bad bread), lechem tov (good bread): Survival and sacrifice during the holocaust
J Rawicki, C Ellis - Qualitative Inquiry, 2011 - journals.sagepub.com
… as existing on a spectrum between yetzer hara (evil inclination) and yetzer tov (good inclination).
Jews struggle to suppress the yetzer hara and exercise the yetzer tov. Based on an oral …
Save Cite Cited by 23 Related articles All 6 versions
Thanatos, Id and the Evil Impulse
MHL Spero - Tradition: A Journal of Orthodox Jewish Thought, 1975 - JSTOR
… in scholastic pursuit of a tenable description of the yetzer hara. For this purpose alone, we
… by attempt ing to establish similarities between the yetzer hara, the id or Thanatos on very …
Save Cite Cited by 5 Related articles All 2 versions
Jewish Perspectives on Campus Unrest
J Grunblatt - Tradition: A Journal of Orthodox Jewish Thought, 1970 - JSTOR
… yetzer hara energy can be diverted towards yetzer tov goals, yetzer tov energies could be
routed to further yetzer hara … That is, yetzer tov energy can be used to transform the bio-…
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Instincts
A Solomon - Tradition: A Journal of Orthodox Jewish Thought, 1975 - JSTOR
… over both conscious and un conscious components of the yetzer hara. Similarly, I must
question Mr. Soero's statement that the yetzer hara is not available to sublimation. Andy Solomon …
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You have proven yourself to be so academically serious
If there are any verses on "yester ha ra" I would love to see them, but as I understand NONE exist.
Used in scripture 9 times
His work – once
His mind – once
His frame – twice
His imaginings – five times
Genesis 1 includes a basic commandments for all biology
Go forth be fruitful and multiply
To put it simply = self-preservation and the survival of the species
Robert is trying to make this be something aven – wicked and unrighteous
Genesis also contains a basic commandment for man
Go forth be fruitful and multiple + subdue / conquer / and have dominion over
To put it simply = self-preservation and the survival of the species + dreams and ambition
Robert is trying to make this be something aven – wicked and unrighteous
The ability to dream and have ambition – is the thing that separates man from the other animals
Robert is trying to make this be something aven – wicked and unrighteous
What does it mean to dream and have ambition?
Every animal on the planet will crawl over the rocks
ONLY MAN – has the ability to ‘have the ambition’ to dig those rock up – shape them into blocks and use them to build a temple to the Lord
This process requires disturbing the ground – breaking rock – moving the block – stacking the blocks – all of it PAIN and TOIL for man
Robert is trying to make this be something aven – wicked and unrighteous
Judaism teaches - ONLY MAN – has the ability to ‘have the ambition’ to
Study and understand Rom 1:19 and Psa 19:2 – build Temples to the Lord
Build houses – communities – civilizations - health care – child care – welfare
Robert is trying to make this be something aven – wicked and unrighteous
All you have done here Robert – is prove the error of your Robert Method
Proof that you use your Robert method to generate and validate any doctrine you wish
STOP TYRING TO REWRITE SCRIPTURE TO VALIDATE ELLEN WHITE
Your praise the wrong god!