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Post by Dave on Oct 31, 2021 13:54:20 GMT -5
Creation = Gen 1:1-31 – all of it Some of it – God set in motion and they developed naturally – through EntropyGen 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. Gen 1:7 So God made the expanse and it separated the water that was below the expanse from the water that was over the expanse. And it happened so. A perfect example = Nebular TheoryThings cooled (Entropy) they coalesced toward equilibrium (Entropy) – and as the STATE/CONDITION of creation changed – so does the equilibrium = more (entropy) toward rest/equilibrium Entropy is inherent to / a by-product of Neg-Entropy /Creation It is not evil – it does not hate – it is only RA Some of it – God said and it appearedGen 1:11 Then God said, “Let the land sprout grass, green plants yielding seed, fruit trees making fruit, each according to its species with seed in it, upon the land.” And it happened so. Gen 1:11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. THIS IS THE PLANT KINGDOMIt begins with the oldest form found on the planet – cyanobacteria In plums = Blue/Green Algae Do not require sunlight! THIS IS THE AMIMAL KINGDOMIt begins in the waterGen 1:21 And God created great whales, and every living creature Gen 1:21 Then God created the large sea creatures and every living creature that crawls, with which the water swarms, which the waters have teemed Gen 1:25 God made the wild animals according to their species, the livestock according to their species, and everything that crawls on the ground, each according to its species. And God saw that it was good. after their kind, each according to its speciesZERO EVOLUTION – no animal ever grew up to be a different speciesEach and every animal existing today – was created one at a time – specific Gen 2:19 And Jehovah God formeth from the ground every beast of the field, and every fowl of the heavens, and bringeth in unto the man, to see what he doth call it; and whatever the man calleth a living creature, that is its name. Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof. Each and every animal existing today – was created specific – and Adam/man named them allafter their kind, each according to its species
ZERO EVOLUTION – no animal ever grew up to be a different speciesEach and every animal existing today – was created one at a time – specific – and some have died out Each was created – lived – reproduced after it one species/kind/type – then dies Nature = The Cycle of Life = The Gospel = the Message of the ahlRecognize what is in your sight!From the beginning – (man is aware and may need to atone) – God does tabernacle with man – salvation is only of the Lord – Death and Passover, Passover, Passover – THEN the Harvest/Pentecost
Precept upon precept, line upon line – over and over – the message is clear – anywhere you look any time you look
What is this stuff from Creationist that Adam was designed to die – but the Tree of Life kept him alive Then you argue that all creation changed to die because of sin You have argued this Tree of Life thing to me – it is absolutely contradictory to your own theology Was this cycle of life in full swing – from the beginning – YES!Viruses caused harm – they could not help it – if they were to ‘go forth and multiply’ Big fish ate little fish – Carnivores – meat eaters – so much evidence Dinos – many – very many – huge – “Behemoth”Monstrous - sea serpent – fire breathing dragons – “Leviathan”ATTITUDE ABOUT CREATIONYou continually call God’s creation flawed Rom 1:19 + Psa 19:2 – All CREATION WITNESSES TO GOD!You see the natural cycle of life as – evil ra – the result of sin – caused by your satan I say it witness to the Glory of the Intelligent Designer who could have only made such an EQUALIBRIUM between tov and ra – Neg-entropy and Entropy – creation and Entropy Dinos – I say God made creation to enjoy it – in all its it beauty – splendor – and mystery I do not have a problem with God – experimenting with creating newer and bigger I do not have an issue with God – allowing Entropy to cause some Dinos to be Monstrous Predictors There is so much evidence for it Did Dinos walk with man – Yes – there is so much evidence for it – from all around the world Does the empirical evidence support Evolutions time argument – NO Dose the fossil record support the Evolutionist time argument – NO TIME – is a measure of volume – not age1- the assumption that the amount available today represent the base amount 2- is based on the assumption that earth was always the same shape and size Truth – Creationist or Evolutionist – Earth was very different in the past Truth – Most science doesn’t investigate this relative difference Why doesn’t most science investigate it – because it upsets their long held base assumptions Truth – some sciences are forced to look closely at it because it is relevant to their science As soon as science took an honest look at quantum physics – an obvious imbalance appears in the history of Earth formation – The overwhelming problem/question in science = Earth has disproportionate amount of heavy elements on or near our surface Truth – some sciences are forced to look closely at it because it is relevant to their scienceEvery geologist agrees – the continents align across the Mid Atlantic ridge Every honest geologists – admits - the continents align across the Mid Pacific ridge Every geologist agrees – India was once joined to Madagascar and Antarctic – and then smashed into Asia – although there is ZERO evidence for it on the sea floor Beginning in 1900 – several scientists investigated this phenomena Otto Hilgenberg was the first to present his expanding earth idea But he lacks the necessary mechanism – it requires so much energy – the heat problem Carl von Weizsacker was born in 1912 and worked as one the the leading German physicist of the 1930s. Together with Bethe, he published the formula that describes the nuclear processing within stars called, to this day, The Bethe-Weizsacker Formula. During the 1940s he joined Werner Heisenberg and the German atomic bomb research team. Weizsacker's comments, about the earth's metallurgical and mineral composition being more easily explained if they formed within a high pressure and high temperature protoplanet, were published in 1944 (http://library.thinkquest.org/27930/planet_formation.htm.) Arnold Eucken, 1884 - 1950, received his PhD in 1906 and worked with Nernst in Berlin, on specific heats and quantum effects at low temperatures. In 1915 Eucken was appointed director of the physicochemical institute at the Technische Hochscule Breslau. In 1929, he was also appointed director of the Gottingen physicochemical institute. He wrote textbooks on physical chemistry, molecular vibrations, internal rotations, homogeneous and heterogeneous gas kinetics, supercritical solutions, and chemical engineering (http://www.nernst.de/ipc-directors.htm.) Eucken described the formation of earth's composite elements as a raining out from within a large gaseous protoplanet atmosphere, with high temperatures and high pressures, possibly as much as 1000 to 10,000 times present pressures (http://understandearth.com/Solar%20System%20Processes.htm.) Eucken published his Primordial Protoplanet Theory also in 1944. His theories proposes a large gaseous protoplanet, perhaps as large as 300 times the total earth mass of today. A rock core planetoid surrounded by a large, Jupiter like, gaseous atmosphere. Then as primordial elements were swept up by this protoplanet, they were condensed and concentrated toward the center by gravity. Raining down on the planetoid in concentric layers of matter. (http://understandearth.com/Solar%20System%20Processes.htm.) This protoplanet concept works very well to explain many of the mysteries of The Nebular Hypotheses and The Standard Solar System Formation Theory. The extreme pressures and temperatures of the early protoplanet environment easily explains the mechanism for the liquefaction of the central planetoid. The high pressures and temperatures of the primordial protoplanet best explains the formation of heavy elemental compounds and minerals currently found in the earth's crust. This theory also easily explains why the earth appears to be layered in concentric shells of matter. However, the flaw with this theory is the fact that it leaves us on a Jupiter like giant gas planet. Question – is there any possible scientific evidence that earth was once – No oceans – only 4 rivers (Gen 2:8 10-11, 13-14) No rain – different atm (Gen2:5) firmament above – different atm (Gen 1:6-7,20) All the planets waters from the ground up (Gen 2:6) Answer – Yes – volumes of it Is it mainstream science – No – not yet
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Post by Dave on Oct 31, 2021 14:07:42 GMT -5
Let’s talk life before the floodAlfred Wegener, 1880 - 1930, a German climatologist and geophysicist published his book, The Origins of Continents and Oceans, originally in 1912, and then again in 1915. His work was the first to suggest the concept of continental drift and plate tectonics. He suggested that a super-contentent he called, Pangia, had existed in the past, broke up, and the respective pieces drifted to their present locations (http://pangia.org/wegener.htm.) Wegener was fascinated by the new science of archeology and the implications of the fossil record to anthropology. Correlations of similar fossils found on different sides of the Atlantic lead Wegener to conclude that the two sides of the Atlantic must have been land bridged together. He then pushed all of the continents together in the Atlantic and the landmasses do seem to fit together like jig-saw puzzle pieces. Anthropologist have since used the super-contentent Pangia theory to explain many migratory patterns by herding animals Evidenced by the fossil record and hemispheric migration patterns of today (http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/history/wegener.html.). The super-contentent Pangia theory has had many consequences for geology, geophysics, oceanography, and paleontology; especially the concept of plate tectonics, that has become a scientific discipline all of its own. Question – is there any evidence from science that says - Before the earth changed – there was an abundance of life everywhere – Answer – YES- and on a smaller planet these crooked patterns become straight latitude bands Some species live at the equator – some lived above and some lived below the equator Question – is there any evidence from science of a global flood? Answer – Yeswww.youtube.com/watch?v=GFUTLXKAaeATurns Out, Earth Was a Water World With No Continents or Land!Mar 8, 2020 - Anton Petrov New book explores Noah’s Flood; says Bible and science can get alongAugust 14, 2012, David Montgomery The Biblical Consequences of an Expanding Earth: The Fluid Dynamics of Whole Earth Decompression Theory, David Freed MLS | Mar 28, 2012 Creation sequenceDay 1 – all the host of heaven were created All angels – all men – all heavenly beings Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. There is no new creationGen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. Entropy – the Beast that is waiting to consume and devour – is only relevant to physical creation Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. This is a race of beings – the serpent race – their only thought is (yester ra) (yester ra) in not evil – it is selfish / “Self”The Archon were here first – before the Dinos – and before man I do not have a problem with the archon manipulating dinos - making them angry – causing them to fight Possibly this is why we know them as the serpent race Also before the Flood you have Gen 6:1-4 The archon (bane elohiym) + the Nephilim + the chimeras 1- they were here first 2- it wasn’t until later – when approx. 200 of them – took human wives 3- they had to change their form to accomplish the deed – they become more ‘flesh’ Archon – the serpent race are invisible beings – powers from the heavens Eph 6 But they can be called into this world (with its 3D form) And they can enter this world As invisible wicked powers – they are 100% (yester ra) As visible creatures – they are still 100% (yester ra) But as physical creatures of 100% (yester ra) they were able to sin against man and nature Jud 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. What is their sin? = after their kind, - each according to its species They fathered the ½ archon + ½ human - demi-gods – And they experimented with chimeras – both archon + animal – and some animal + animal – and some animal + animal + animal HYBRIDS – dogs have extensively been hybrid since about 1200 AD – and every offspring is a dog Horses have been extensively hybrid since 800 AD – and every offspring is a horse You might even say humans have been hybrid – inbred – selective bred – and we are all just men But the marriage of archon + human = a mixing of KINDS The marriage of animal with animal = a mixing of KINDS What is their sin? = after their kind, - each according to its species HYBRIDS – let’s talk missing intermediary species Question – do Creationist suggest – a Black Bear and a Grizzle Bear got together and had a baby Panda Bear? It is a question? – If it took more than one step – where are the intermediary species? I ask the same question of the evolutionist – where are the missing intermediary species? The rebuttal argument is always – the human fossil record 1- this is the only lineage scripture says is corrupted by the bane elohiym 2- so I ask – show me a different species line – Raccoons to Bears – Hippos to Horses ANSWER – there are no intermediary species in any lineage except man And the suggested intermediary forms of man – are simply proof that our species was manipulated a lot
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Post by Dave on Nov 1, 2021 0:07:32 GMT -5
Let’s talk life before the floodIncremental CreationThe fossil records indicate that each and every species was created – one at a time – they lived – reproduced after their own KIND and some/many died out Nature teaches us that life has always been a big fish eats little fish world The fossil record of HOMINIDS = there could have been up to 8 different hominids all living side by side with Adam Gen 6:1-4 - - a lot of creatures – man and beast are spiritual/genetically contaminated – the Nephilim, and the chimeras Add Enoch to the theology and – this was a time very much like middle earth Wizards – Lords – Sorcery – flying craft – trolls – troglodytes – war Add Plato to this – and Atlantis was a magical lad of knowledge and science with flying machines – that all sank beneath the wave – because they offended God Was every creature on earth killed by the Flood – NOEven Roberts admits it – whales – insects – others (not sure what) were not killed by the flood Therefore – all life – as in every living creature is not the target of the FloodGen 7:21 And all flesh died that moved upon the earth, both of fowl, and of cattle, and of beast, and of every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth, and every man: Gen 7:22 All in whose nostrils was the breath of life, of all that was in the dry land, died. Gen 7:23 And every living substance was destroyed which was upon the face of the ground, both man, and cattle, and the creeping things, and the fowl of the heaven; and they were destroyed from the earth: and Noah only remained alive, and they that were with him in the ark. All in whose nostrils was the breath of life – this is not all creatures – it isGen 2:7 mankind Gen 6:1-4 – Nephilim and the chimaeras And all those contaminated by Gen 6:1-4 – which was pretty much the whole world Let’s talk life before the floodQuestion – is there any science that says – something wiped out almost all life on earth? Answer – YES(google) A population bottleneck is an event that drastically reduces the size of a population. The bottleneck may be caused by various events, such as an environmental disaster, Almost all life on Earth was wiped out 2 billion years ago | CNNhttps://www.cnn.com › 2019/09/04 Sep 5, 2019 — A new study found extreme changes in the atmosphere killed almost 100% of life on Earth about 2 billion years ago. The 'Great Dying' Nearly Erased Life On Earth. Scientists See ...https://www.npr.org › 2019/06/04 Jun 4, 2019 — There was a time when life on Earth almost blinked out. The "Great Dying," the biggest extinction the planet has ever seen, God created everything = Incremental CreationOne at a time – God said – and it appeared – during the 6 Days of creation Those 6 days were God’s Time / Bible Time / Cosmic Time – written from God’s perspective Thy are not 24 hrs as seen from linear man’s perspective Gen 2:1 creation is closed – no new creation Gen 12 - Gen 6 = (yester ra) creatures cast to earth – the more they took on human form – the more their (yester ra) included humans and other animals – their sin was against man and nature The Flood’s target were the Archon and all that they touchedAll this took place in a world that wasEarth began as a Jupiter sized Gas Giant Proto-Planet There was never a Super-island named Pangea It was Planetoid Pangea at the heart of the Gas Giant Proto-Planet earth No oceans – only 4 rivers (Gen 2:8 10-11, 13-14) No rain – different atm (Gen2:5) firmament above – different atm (Gen 1:6-7,20) All the planets waters from the ground up (Gen 2:6) The Flood is not a creative event – if anything it is a function of EntropyThis is why the Heat Problem is a ProblemIt was a problem of Otto Hilgenberg in science – it is a problem for the creationist The Flood’s target were the Archon and all that they touched The genetic bottleneck says – there were many – but only a few survivedWalter Veith correct teaches about the chalk layerI use the iridium layer that forms atop the caulk – same layer The chalk = total water coverage + iridium had to come from space This was a global – catastrophic event J. Marvin Herndon 2005 suggest – root cause (the sun erupted – it/they happen all the time) And the mechanism – this eruptive event – swept away the Gas Giant atm – which allows a chain reaction of very predictable events 1- as a Gas Giant Proto-Planet – the layering of rock strata was formed as things rained out from the atm (yes – some is forms by water then sediment then water – not all of it – or any of it at depth) 2- with out this Giant gas atm – the rocky planetoid (Planetoid Pangea) was allowed to decompress 2006 – The Fluid Dynamics is the logical next scientific statement supported by 7 independent other theories or laws 1- the decompression sequence had to start with the gasses exploding from the ground 2- The liquids (waters) would have rapidly followed The Great fountains of the Deep burst forth 3- All of planet earth was covered with water – Planet Oceania 4- the semi-solids of the mantel – continued to decompress/expand – and eventually the land pushed its way back up through the waters – to today’s equilibrium 5- This decompression energy is still alive and active today – fueling volcanology, plate tectonics, earthquakes, and about 50 other sciences Revelations from FD-WEDT1- This smaller Planetoid Pangea did not have oceans – but 4 large rivers that covered the whole planet 2- The Four Rivers from Eden - were the pressure release mechanism for the planet then as today These Four Rivers are still with us as the pressure release mechanism – mid oceanic ridges 3- the Gas Giant atm – would not supported rainfall – or a rainbow 4- the pressures would have watered all the group by artesian means 5- The science timing of this even =70 million years ago – as dated by the old age of the sea floor 65 million years ago if you are a dino – and an asteroid buff Or 10,000 BC if you are really into Egyptology and the Pyramids Or 9,000 BC if you listen to Plato Or 4,500 years ago if your Robert Again – Time is a measure of order – not linear man daysHowever – because I suggest such correlations – mainstream science will not publish me And the ICR will not even read me – chicken Robert asked for good videos – OKI thought of a video – but there is the funding issue – 501C tax exempt status + conviction about he money But I do have some great videos to share – Neal Adams is the artist that drew all the Bat Man Comic Books – I cannot compete with his art work
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Post by Dave on Nov 1, 2021 1:32:42 GMT -5
I have these two video suggest on my web-site What is to be gained from these videos?1- The earth did not appear – complete and finished There was a long and complicated process from ‘without form and void’ to the earth we have today. What he gets correct?2- the decompression sequence from Planetoid-Pangea to present day earth 3- Planetoid-Pangea was an active biosphere – land bridges – dinos and marsupials 4- There is NO SUBDUCTION and therefore NO Mantel Convection 5- Planetoid-Pangea had no oceans 6- His end suggestion = the poles became frozen over What does he get wrong?7- To make his videos visually obvious – the shorelines are always neatly even with the ocean levels 8- It is wrong to think the continents fit together shoreline to shoreline – they fit continental shelf to continental shelf 9- mating the continents back together (without oceans) makes a complete curst surface (like all the other planets) with 4 major internal pressure release rifts = the 4 Rivers of Eden His model omits these Biblical rivers But his model immediately includes the 4 mid-oceanic rifts that fuel the expansion of the ocean floor What he misses completely Most of everything he says - took place underwater The Decompression sequence says - gasses followed by liquids (waters) FIRST This would have swamped all the land under water - global flood Followed by the land masses pushing their way back up through the waters surface Neal Adams - Science: 01 - Conspiracy: Earth is Growing!Neal Adams - Science: 11 - The Pangea Theory: The Big Lie!youtu.be/0iW5HUrEkc8
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Post by Dave on Nov 2, 2021 9:56:04 GMT -5
Neal Adams - Science: 01 - Conspiracy: Earth is Growing! Wow, I like that the countries fit when the earth becomes smaller in volume. 1- it is obvious to everyone who looks at it 2- this smaller Planetoid Pangea was filled with life The fossil record = herd patterns and plant patterns all support a small planet 3- How and when did the earth change Answer – How = WEDD Answer – when – The Flood of Noah Answer when – there was a genetic bottleneck of all life on earth – an event that many species did not survive – and only Homo-sapien man survived Answer – there was an extinction event that wiped out the dinos + many others Answer – it is obvious that smaller earth had life Issue – scientist that support this idea also need a zillion years for it all to happen slowlyAnswer – the Flood of Noah took only 430 days start to finish Answer – it was a sudden and catastrophic event – balance rocks Answer – it explains all geology today – all volcanology – all earthquake – all sink holes Answer – more importantly it explains the Pacific Gap and the sea mount evidence Answer – it answers and provides mechanism for about 50 other sciences And it is 100% scriptural
Unlike Dr Walter Browns Hydroplate theory Doesn’t provide mechanism – doesn’t address the energy required or the dissipation of the energy after the fact Doesn’t help, agree, or support any other science WEDD and FD-WEDT are published and invite peer review - bring it on prove us wrong and we will THANK YOU FOR IT!Unlike creation science that is closed – no one knows their methods except them – and you cannot have access to Dr. Brown Theory – but you can by his book from Ken Hamm for only $75 USD Creation ‘science’ is not a science – it is a propaganda machine of religion Its goal is not to educated – but indoctrinate Therefore it is seen with contempt and it only harms the faith Neal Adams - Science: 11 - The Pangea Theory: The Big Lie! Interesting video. Thank you for showing these to me. They have always been the focus of my web-siteWhat Neal Adams present here is empirical – none deny it What Neal Adams presents here is WEDD +FD-WEDT in cartoon form Neal begins with only a small planet Scripture tells me that our small planet had a large canopy atm – a thick atm – a large firmament WEDD suggest that by some stellar eruptive shock wave (WEDD suggest when the sun ignited – FD-WEDT just says that or any eruptive stellar event. We see them in our telescopes all the time) Without this large gas giant atm – the gravity well changed – pressures changed WEDD suggest – without this gravity well and pressures – Planetoid Pangea was allowed to DECOMPRESS Neal Adams teaches that it is continuous silicate creation within a planet that causes it to grow – is science is flawed – but his videos are too cool not to use Decompression / Neal’s growth begins – Neal’s videos nails the decompression sequence and uses all the correct empirical evidenceHowever – adding scripture you get1- the earth cracked open like an egg – fracturing first at the weakest point – the 4 Rivers – the 4 pressure release ridges that still release this decompression pressure to this very day 2- The fountains of the depths burst forth = FD-WEDT (Fluid Dynamics) – the gasses followed by the liquids (waters) would have burst/exploded from the ground 3- did it rain next – of course – how much of the flood waters come from the atm – some /maybe / a lot but most came from inside the earth itself This would have covered the entire globe with water Planetoid Pangea became planet Oceania The Flood of Noah covered all the earth – global Science – honest science – the facts just speak for themselves To continue the decompression sequence – more and more land became available at a slower and slower rate as decompression slowed to equilibrium.POINT – 99% of Neal Adam’s video happens underwaterBut the continuing decompression pushed the land back up through the waters Scriptural point - Gen 10:1 And these are the genealogical records of Noah’s sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth. Sons were born to them after the flood. Gen 10:6 Ham’s sons were Cush, Mizraim, Put and Canaan. Gen 10:8 Now Cush fathered Nimrod. … Gen 10:32 These are the families of the sons of Noah according to their genealogies in their nations, and from these the nations were dispersed on the earth after the flood Nimrod/Babel – was only one of several nations There were nations dispersed all around the globe before Babel The Ice Age – where is it in Creationism?answersingenesis.org/environmental-science/ice-age/when-was-the-ice-age-in-biblical-history/Biblical creationists have not reached a consensus on one Ice Age model. This article represents one view. Differences between the models have no major bearing on the overall timescale of a straightforward reading of Scriptures, i.e., the Flood of Genesis 6, which occurred roughly 4300 years ago, brought on one major Ice Age that lasted a few hundred years.So – Creationism has to admit an ice age happened after the flood – but only reluctantly and limited OK – how does it fit scripture + the empirical evidenceWEDD + FD-WEDT has an answer and a mechanism – and Gen 10:32As Planck's law describes, every physical body spontaneously and continuously emits electromagnetic radiation. Radiative cooling (look it up) is commonly experienced on cloudless nights, when heat is radiated into space from the surface of the Earth, or from the skin of a human observer. The effect is well-known among amateur astronomers. Before the Flood – earth was a Tropic temperature zone - as evidence by the fossil record All dinos lived in a Tropical zone After the flood – the atm = evaporative cooling (look it up) – took heat into space Naked earth after the flood – radiated heat into space Question – what happens to the surface of an AC ‘evaporator’ coil? Answer – open the door of your freezer and see = ice formation Was the interior of the earth cool – no way – but he interface surface = ice After the Flood – 1- Gen 10:32 – there were several nations all around the globe 2- The resulting Ice Age after the Flood = much lower sea levels 3- man lived at the water’s edge – which is now under water Supported by science – underwater civilizations – North Atlantic Dogger Land – Sea of Japan – Bahamas/Cuba – and the Indus River delta Interesting – the Biblical Babel pre-culture missing / erased / scrambled Gen 11:8 So Adonai scattered them from there over the face of the entire land, and they stopped building the city. And Yet Gen 12 and Abram begin in Sumar – also the oldest civilization without an ice age pre-culture under the waters of the Persian Gulf TIME – and why time is not linearEveryone in the science community agrees – Time is a variable – Time is NOT linear Every physicist respects Einstein – who says 2Pet 3:8 + Psa 90:4 – there are two ways to look at time God’s view / cosmic time / Bible Time – as seen from a different perspective Man’s view – linear Even in science time – linear time only works for about 14,000 years and then time telescopes – began to grow - expand Jos 10 – God causes TIME to stand still 2Kings 20 - God made TIME run backwards TIME and the FLOODScripture says approx. 430 days until enough land had pushed its way up through the waters for Noah to exit the Ark. Gen 8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth. The entire earth is destroyed and rearranged – but a fresh olive leaf survived all that trauma? TIME is a variable at God’s command Inside the Ark it could have been approx. 430 days – or two weeks – or overnight Outside the Ark – it could have been 50 million years – or two weeks – or overnight Size of the Ark – how much food is needed for 2 weeks – or overnight? DO you have any on the Creation of Animals by God, videos you would approve of?Approve is a strong word – I posted a video from Chabad.org A Rabbi from the Jerusalem Institute for Hebrew Studies said (my paraphrase) ponderingconfusion.proboards.com/thread/406/introduction-kabbalah2:00-7:30 – how Adam named the animals I respect all of the video “He imagines – a scene where – God and Adam are standing in the Garden naming the animals- Tumbling down from the heavens came a D - Followed by an O -= and then a G came tumbling down and Adam saw a DOG” Nice story – the power of HEBREW They also teach The Book of Creation - the 22 letters of the HEBREE alpha-bet is the TEMPLATE upon which all creation is built The Book of Creation also says 10 is the number, NOT 9, NOT 11 but 10 But that’s all Kabbalah
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 4:25:56 GMT -5
Nice to place all your views on Creation in one place Dave.
One question I don't understand
D"TIME is a variable at God’s command Inside the Ark it could have been approx. 430 days – or two weeks – or overnight Outside the Ark – it could have been 50 million years – or two weeks – or overnight
Size of the Ark – how much food is needed for 2 weeks – or overnight?
How is this possible? If the ark is on the earth travelling in space, all references to time are the same, same frame of reference. How can inside the ark be a different time to the outside of the ark? I don't understand you?
The ark floated in water on earth, so the time of the water and the ark and all inside the ark should be the same frame of reference?
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Nov 3, 2021 7:39:50 GMT -5
The 7 Days of creation are not 2hrs – Day 7 is ongoing Before the Flood man lived up to 1000 yrs – after the Flood only 120 Jos 10 – God causes TIME to stand still 2Kings 20 - God made TIME run backwards John 2:1-11 Jesus turned the water into AGED wine The disciples did not realize Jesus would not come back for 2000 or more years
Was it 430 days inside the Ark – OK Was it different – OK
This is how I would describe it to my child You call my phone – my daughter says I just went to sleep You remain on HOLD waiting for me to wake up – but I sleep all night Finally I awake and answer your call
For you – those 8 hrs felt like 20 For me – it was a good 20 minutes
Did two of every animal on the earth enter the ark – NO - only the animals God sent God had other plans for the fishes, insects, more? Does a chicken have to be on the Ark – or do the eggs just have to survive? My Ark has no dinos – dinos walked with man before the flood
Then dinos went extinct by the Flood – because they were corrupted by the archon - another reason why I could make a sermon about the archon corrupting the dinos – the age of animal violence – before the age of human violence
I want to say something – but don’t know how – so here is a preface:
Memoirs of Noah – I wrote this long ago – the “cultural” legacy of the pre-diluvium age Noah lived 350 years after the Flood – that is a lot of grandchildren The #1 question to grandpa would have been – tell us what it was like before the flood The age of dinos – Nephilim – Chimeras – wizards and dragons and that is how all these stories end up in all cultures all around the globe
And what I want to say = One of those consistent surviving cultural references = THE SERPENT RACE
Take food for all the animals – is that 3 meals a day – or do they all fast for 40 days?
How did Noah mange all those animals – The Germans and Russians medicated their prisoners What if all the animal went comatose and just slept through the ride?
Peter walked right out of prison and everyone else was sleeping, dulled, suspended in time?
Is any of this possible – sure No one knows – there are so many possible variables at God’s command
One variable that scripture clearly say is in Gods command = TIME
Something else I wrote long ago
Why is God’s Time / Cosmic Time – not the same as man’s time? Answer – because man is biology If I stub my toe – one neuron has to fire to the next neuron – across my foot – then up my leg – then up my spine – just to be processed by more neurons – then the command to say ouch or pull away must again go – one neuron at a time – one incremental step at a time
Perhaps incremental time is a product of the increment neural impulses it takes to process our WORLD
What is the purpose of time anyway?
Enoch LXV:4 "And in those he appointed the hours, measured them out exactly, that man might reflect on time and count years and months, and hours, their alternation beginning, and end, and that he might count his own life, from the beginning until death, and reflect on his sin and write his work bad and good; because no work is hidden before the Lord, that every man might know his works and never transgress all his commandments, and keep my handwriting from generation to generation."
that man might reflect - count his own life - reflect on his sin - that every man might know his works - because no work is hidden before the Lord
From the beginning – anything I need to atone for? (YOM KIPPUR) God does Tabernacle with man – Salvation is of the Lord – Passover x3 = Harvest/Pentecost
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 14:15:33 GMT -5
Nice answers Dave, but you suppose GOD controls time. Yes maybe, but why must you have God controlling time? Can't God work the Great Flood in say a literal 430 days of time? If God can create the granite rocks according to Robert Gantry in 6 seconds of time, than surely God can move the earth plates and make volcanism and layers of sediment 3 kms thick all over the earth in just 430 days of time. If God is indeed all powerful and required more time, He would have had the flood continuing for additional time, but it wasn't required. You should learn that Hebrew is a concrete literal language, and take the Hebrew as it reads. It makes more sense if read this way. However I get you view of God's time as well. But than you say: D" My Ark has no dinos – R" God did place dinos in the ark, maybe not all of them as you say, but certainly most went onto the ark. How do we know this? Because China, Macro Polo writes about dinos, as does the Vietnam temples, and Inc stones, all after the great flood. D" One of those consistent surviving cultural references = THE SERPENT RACER" Are you sure? A serpent RACE? Yes I read about the accounts on the Internet. Hmm? Watched the alien video, supporting this too. D" that man might reflect - count his own life - reflect on his sin - that every man might know his works - because no work is hidden before the LordR" nice I will get back to you, do some video watching of alien, serpent race, etc. Do you have any videos of serpent race evidence you approve of? What about this one? youtu.be/AE1xoA3r4jAShalom
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Post by Dave on Nov 3, 2021 15:59:39 GMT -5
R" God did place dinos in the ark, maybe not all of them as you say, but certainly most went onto the ark. How do we know this? Because China, Macro Polo writes about dinos, as does the Vietnam temples, and Inc stones, all after the great flood. Or is one of those consistent surviving culturalD"One of those consistent surviving cultural references = THE SERPENT RACE Or is that stegasaurs carving in the temple a rendition of a skelital reconsctruction?Or is it a reproduction of a more ancient image that is lost? - like many of our maps!R" Are you sure? A serpent RACE? Yes I read about the accounts on the Internet. Hmm? Watched the alien video, supporting this too. I will get back to you, do some video watching of alien, serpent race, etc.When you watch these videos – remember the standard – Torah and the Temple ScrollsExample – I have both Books of Enoch in print – I have read the for years – I have listened to Rabbis use Enoch as a reference – Enoch is a full part of the Coptic Broader canon and Dead Sea Scrolls Also – there are 850 youtube videos about Enoch – all of them are @#^%8&@! As the expression goes – the movies take a lot of license!No replacement for reading the BookYes – there are 850 videos about the archon - – all of them are @#^%8&@! As the expression goes – the movies take a lot of license!I’ll stick to information provided by the authors of the aglDo you have any videos of serpent race evidence you approve of? YES I DO - ABSOLUTELYponderingconfusion.proboards.com/thread/493/la-marzulliLA Marzulli on the trail of the Nephilim - video Koinonia House is the ministry of Chuck Missler who I think was the best Christian Educator of our time. I fully endorse Chuck Missler, His ministry, and his guess speaker LA Marzulli ponderingconfusion.proboards.com/search/results?captcha_id=captcha_search&where_thread_title=enoch&who_only_made_by=0&display_as=0&search=SearchJude 1:14-16 The Prophecy of Enoch Question – how was anyone supposed to understand Jude – if they don’t already know and understand who Enoch was and what he prophesied? The Prophecy of Enoch You Have Never Heard Of - video What about this one? youtu.be/AE1xoA3r4jAVery Mythy – but YES – worldwide cultural reference to a serpent race The serpent race is always involved in religions – ‘other gods’ of the 99% The genetic conquest of Hercules – is just the Rephiem throughout history today Only Hebrew reference = the serpent in the Garden of Eden A RACE of beings – some biology – Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down—the ancient serpent, called the devil and satan, who deceives the whole world. He was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. They have always been here – they are the ‘other-gods’ of the 99% (satanas) God introduced Himself to Abraham and Israel the 1% That introduction = the ahl – within the ahl = (Hebrew Satan), an angel of the Lord, doing things for the Lord Which has nothing to do with the ‘other-gods’ of the 99% (satanas)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 13:34:02 GMT -5
Dave wants me to watch this video again youtu.be/CAl7tkiihiwLA Marzulli on the trail of the Nephilim
Koinonia House is the ministry of Chuck Missler who I think was the best Christian Educator of our time.
I fully endorse Chuck Missler, His ministry, and his guess speaker LA Marzulli
Satan the fallen one wants to create man in his own image. Nephelium saw them, the giants, different tribes,
some left and went to New York, some left to Mexico, to escape Jewish slaughter of them. large scull with reddish hair. elongated skull of serpent race. FOund in pregnant woman, 7th fetus, drawn as seen, seed of woman with Satanic Angels.
Microndia DNA different to human, so Darwin in wrong. Anything that goes against Darwinism the evidence is expelled, Nephelium, descendents of the serpent race? Implant, in a man's knee, abducted by serpent race, possibly the way mark of beast will operate? Supernatural disproves Darwin theory. 33:06
UFO and Alien sightnings.
Will the Antichrist boast an alien connection, place a chip in you to give you 500 yrs disease free.
"This notion of fallen angels, ..."42:00
The other side already know who the son of pedition really is...
We are at a war footing. Told by Paul to put on the armour of God
J Z Knight, women, possessed by demonic entity
in concept of free will, in a time, whole earth, facing extermination coming of great beings, to begin to plant and and pick up people to , "implant them" they follow them, to save alot of beings, called divine intervention, to built countries, to pray to God under different names, which one gets the victory...the most righteous, those who respect the free will of other beings. Before Jesus returns to earth, antichrist will come, in image of Satan...
demonic entites want faith to disappear completely on the earth.
why are they taking people and implanting them?
receive a mark, the mark of the beast.
take the mark and you are in the Lake of Fire
take the implant and you don't die,, while in the Lake of Fire... wrath of God
You may become Nepilim and face the judgement of God, be wiped out. Rob comments" Just another reason why you should not take or get used to taking the COV19 vaccinations and thus get ready to receive a nanobot chip. I liked this video Dave, but I am puzzled by the evidence and words in the video, the speaker does not seem to present your view of "archons" and the "Serpent Race" as you suggest? LA speaks of " fallen one" "angels" and ""This notion of fallen angels, ..."42:00" So I get the impression LA is speaking of fallen angels along with Satan the chief fallen angel, choosing to have sexual intercourse with the mankind, so as to make humans into the image of sinning angels. Not a single comment about "archons fathering demi gods with humans". LA is pretty much the same theories as most of us in Protestant Churches. DO you have another video perhaps showing the archons fathering demigods and coming as antichrist to deceive the entire world, that is more along your view of archonic beings, who were created intentionally by God to develop the free will in man, to test them humans so they come away from the yester ra, that causes them to worship the world as the archons want humans to? Something presented by somebody more along your view, please? Shalom
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Post by Dave on Nov 5, 2021 13:47:41 GMT -5
Supernatural disproves Darwin theory. 33:06 Gee – that is probably error
"This notion of fallen angels, ..."42:00 YES – The Beast, the serpent race, the devils, and the satanas Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Recognize whats in your sight
I liked this video Dave, but I am puzzled by the evidence and words in the video, the speaker does not seem to present your view of "archons" and the "Serpent Race" as you suggest? It is all he speaks about
LA speaks of "fallen one" "angels" and ""This notion of fallen angels, ..."42:00" YES – The Beast, the serpent race, the devils, and the satanas Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Recognize whats in your sight
So I get the impression LA is speaking of fallen angels along with Satan the chief fallen angel, choosing to have sexual intercourse with the mankind, so as to make humans into the image of sinning angels. And as you correctly teach – angels cannot do this because they are ethereal not corporeal This is exactly why we are speaking of the Enoch and his WATCHERS – Nephilim, Rephiem, - all archon
You can choose not to see - if you want to - your choice
LA is pretty much the same theories as most of us in Protestant Churches. You should read your own post the first time you watched it - you could not dissagree with it more You absolutely deny Gen 6 -say this entire theology = Enoch / Jewish / Gnostic and Error Double Speaker - Flip Flopper
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 4:46:10 GMT -5
Greetings Dave
I am trying to be serious and honest with you...
No where as far as I know does L.A. Marzulli: ever talk about archons, or the origin of archons.
Prove to me he does.
I am having trouble researching the exact nature of you view on video, especially by L.A. Marzulli:
https://youtu.be/WMQL-tRI0vo
L.A. Marzulli: The Nephilim Countermove
1:21 don't create a bunch of angels that rebel
I predict that no where even in this video, does L.A. Marzulli ever talk about archons.
He talks about the fallen angels having sexual relations with women (Gen 6) and doing the fallen nature sins, these fallen angels do.
Not a mention of your archons at all.
D"You absolutely deny Gen 6 -say this entire theology = Enoch / Jewish / Gnostic and Error
R I am not denying anything my friend, your video evidence is not supporting your view.
Sure I may not even agree with fallen angels with the ability to sexually mate with women, but that's another point, the point is, L A is not talking about archons, or anything like archons, he is talking about fallen angels. And I most certainly agree fallen angels are causing untold havoc on the earth for humans.
Your job is to show me a video that identifies the beings you support, you haven't done this yet.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Nov 8, 2021 6:25:34 GMT -5
I am trying to be serious and honest with you...No – you are trying your best to defend your satan godNo where as far as I know does L.A. Marzulli: ever talk about archons, or the origin of archons.All he preaches = ENOCH and the WATCHERSProve to me he does.All he preaches = ENOCH and the WATCHERS He makes his bread abnd butter with his WATCHES DVD seriesI am having trouble researching the exact nature of you view on video, especially by L.A. Marzulli:All he preaches = ENOCH and the WATCHERSL.A. Marzulli: The Nephilim CountermoveYES – Nephilim - All he preaches = ENOCH and the WATCHERSI predict that no where even in this video, does L.A. Marzulli ever talk about archons. All he preaches = ENOCH and the WATCHERSHe talks about the fallen angels having sexual relations with women (Gen 6) and doing the fallen nature sins, these fallen angels do.YES – Nephilim - All he preaches = ENOCH and the WATCHERSExcept thay cannot be angels can they – you teach it is impossible for them to be angels And I agree with you = they are Beast, serpent race, devils, satanas Not a mention of your archons at allL.A. Marzulli said noting about the bane elohiym of Gen 6 fathering the Nephilim?OK – Just for you I will call them WATCHERS I also offered in the past to call them PRINCIPALITIES if that would help you But you just keep repeating Ezk 28 like a trained parrotYou choose to stumble over words D"You absolutely deny Gen 6 -say this entire theology = Enoch / Jewish / Gnostic and Error Sure I may not even agree with fallen angels with the ability to sexually mate with women, but that's another pointIT IS 100% THE POINT – you just want to play a word game with me So you can deny reality and focus upon your satan godL. A Marzulli preaches reality – wake up and recognize what is in your sight He identifies them as WATCHERS – from Gen 6 = demi-gods / chimeras – of the bane elohiym Invisible creatures than can be called into this world – seen in this world – effect this world Offspring Gen 6 – offspring NOW You origionally denied everything L.A. said You claim that Enoch is error - and probably a forgeryDavid Ike teaches reality – just outside our field of vision are entities that are anything but human that have been manipulating this world from the outside for eons He identifies them as – “some people call them demonic/ the serpent race / Islam calls them Jinn” Invisible creatures than can be called into this world – seen in this world – effect this world Offspring? – he says genetic link and inbreeding You said - you can see no theology in itKing Solomon called them Beelzebub and the Shedim Invisible creatures than can be called into this world – seen in this world – effect this world Specifically says they are biological – not angelic - offspring You claim that King Solomon is error and probably a forgeryPaul teaches – our real struggle is against Principalities (archon) in the agl (1st Century Greek) Luke calls them archon - (1st Century Greek) You tried your best to explain away Eph 6:12 to prove the Principalities unrealAll the non-Canon (1st Century Greek) authors of the agl called them archon James, John, Paul, Peter, Phillip, Thomas (1st Century Greek) Invisible creatures than can be called into this world – seen in this world – effect this world Specifically says they are biological – not angelic - offspring You claim it all a forgery and error Moses only wrote of the serpent Specifically says biological – not angelic – (Gen 3:14) Specifically says biological – not angelic – seed – offspring (Gen 3:15) You even deny Moses in favor of your Ezk 28 angel godAll pagan religions of the 99% are base in this realityAll religious mythologies of the 99% are base in this reality All secular references to other gods – or alien gods from space Ancient astronauts – Native pagan spirits – UFOs with alien babies All references to the MIXING OF KINDS – cloning – magic or ancient alien science ARE ALL BASED IN THIS REALITY YOU DENY ALL OF IT as Gnostic errorYour efforts to hide this reality in favor of Ezk 28 and Roman satanology is obvious Your approach to proof = spend all your efforts to deny this reality - deny everything – deny anything – corrupt scripture – just repeat Rome’s Ezk 28 – it is all an anti- god angel that recreated himself against God’s Will and then corrupts all of God’s tov Plan for creation – against God’s WillYou give your praise to the wrong god You teach God is weak and your satan strong You teach that even angels can fall from God’s Grace You teach it is a sin to believe in the spirit You absolutely refuse the concept of First Fruits – your only goal is the grave You deny that Christian are able to enter God’s Day of rest – it closed al long time ago – you must teach this or your 6 24hr Days are meaning lessYou teach God's Day of Rest - Day 7 - was over before Jesus was even bornYou MOCK the idea of being Born Again of Spirit – those parts of scripture you called stories
And you deliberately play word games so you don’t have to RECOGNISE WHAT’S IN YOUR SIGHTI am trying to be serious and honest with you...No – you are trying your best to deny the reality all around us just to defend your satan godEzk 28 is all about Adam / man / mankind /any man / every manWho walked with God in heaven – cherished / beloved Perfect in all his way before Gen 3 And was cast from Eden / Paradise into WORLD Fits every application of scripture The Roman invention of an angel – who was perfect – then chose to change into the god of evil CONFLICTS WITH SCRIPTURE – conflicts with Jewish theology the foundation of ChristianityThe Beast of Revelation was never perfect or friends with GodIt appeared ready to devour and consume - The devil was a liar from the beginning It appeared in a plurality – Beast = serpent race = devils = satanas "Some people call them demonic – some people call them the serpent race – Islam calls them Jinn" – King Solomon called them Shedim – the (1st Century Greek) authors called them archon – which 1611 KJV translates as Principalities – pagan religions call them god – the godless call them aliens – new agers know them as shadow peopleThe ahl has no origin story for the beast, devils, demons, other-gods The ahl speaks very little about them – the serpent – shedim – Lilith – Gen 6:1-4 After the Flood – the ahl speaks very little about them – but there they are – Rephiem – Sons of Anak – the King of Og – satyrs – goat men – Beelzebub god of the Philistines - ‘other-gods’ ------------------- The agl does have an origin story for the Beast, devils, serpent race, and satanasGen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven(s) … This is the First Age – the age of SPIRIT – all the host of heaven are there (including man - Jewish)Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the … the earth. Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. Rev 12:4 … and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child (physical creation) as soon as it was born. Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down—the ancient serpent, called the devil and satan, who deceives the whole world. He was thrown down to the earth, and his angels (messengers) were thrown down with him. Gen 1:2 Now the earth was chaos and waste, darkness was on the surface of the deep, The only thing the Nag Hammadi authors add is an origin story for the BeastThe HS did it alone, without her Consort’s knowledge, and it was 100% SELF and ugly and was hidden away into a cloudy of smoke and fireA 100% Jewish expression written into the aglMat 6:3 But when you do tzedakah, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, For all creation God said and it was – as for Ra it just appeared The Right Hand of God = Instruction and Salvation The Left hand of God = the Hand of Mystery You deny it all – in favor of: The Roman invention of an angel – who was perfect – then chose to change into the god of evil CONFLICTS WITH SCRIPTURE – conflicts with Jewish theology the foundation of ChristianityYou deny it all – in favor of:Yes – I have two gods and two kings – what’s wrong with thatYou deny it all – in favor of:The Zoroastrian concept of two equal gods locked in an eternal conflict between good and evil
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2021 3:55:40 GMT -5
D" All he preaches = ENOCH and the WATCHERSR" yes, but LA never uses the word "archon" so he is not supporting your view Dave. D" you just want to play a word game with meR" No I don't, I am just asking you for a video of a person who supports your view. You haven't supplied me with one. So I will help you out : youtu.be/cL0l6FC-H98What are the Archons, Nephilim, Demons and Shadow People? Within 2 minutes he mentions the watcher class fallen angels, and calls them archons, meaning rulers or choef rulers, from the Book of Enoch. I quote the first 10 minutes of this speaker to you:- " greek word archon means ruler of chief ruler, chose word because my book needed a catchy title
Book of Enoch names 22 leaders over the 200, the word leader would have been "archon" leaders.
Didn't know others (gnostic) have different idea of archon. Higher ascended authorities.
These fallen angels and what they were. Occult, new agers, Gnostics, ascended masters, coming up from some place down. Ascending master is a problem.
These fallen ones feed on fear. 3:12
Shadow People, I know from personal experience.
Writing a movie script called shadow people. 4:01
People draw pictures of what they have seen "hat shadow man" 5"05
We were finishing each other's sentences, others describe the shadow people the same way.
Only way to invoke them was to say in Name of Jesus, let me go. 6:10
People in my house dabbled in occult, so we welcome them in. So thing followed me around.
So this thing is demonic, in the Name of Jesus.
Voice of my mouth, was mocking me, the demon, so I went through bad time, living in car.
So I was mocking Jesus too, so but, so Name wasn't working... so this thing feeds on fear... 8:28
the archons (there are good archons too) so Michael is an archon too, it's a Greek for positions of authority.
In occult the word is spun off as a ascended master.
Shadow people are low and some are higher than us, because we play with occult.
Demons are not fallen angels, they are normal rebellious angels, just like Hitler, a bad angel.
Normal regular angels just bad, shape shifters, demons are dis-embodied angelic hybrids from nephilim, angel and human flesh, God never intended to have these, so when you kill the body, they become a spirit, and desire to possess a body again. So I would called the shadow people as demons, Nephilim, the spirit of a 18 foot giant, from a former hybrid. 13:31End here Rob replies" So this speaker does speak of archons, and fallen angels, and demons and Nephilim. At least he defines the terms as he see these terms. Now while I disagree with the speakers view, at least the view is explained well with words he defines. Now which of this video do you like or dislike? Maybe you could find a video that supports your view, so I can see others are out there following your view. That would help your cause I feel. I get the impression your term for archons are "ascending masters", not "bad angels", hence this video does not support your view either, but it does mention all the words we are talking about. Some more helping you out: youtu.be/UphAtzpZF5UWhat is Gnosticism & Who are the Archons 4:20 to 4:28 "Fallen angels" oops, does not support Dave's view.Plus lots of weird stuff I am sure Dave would not support,. Some more helping you out: youtu.be/ZLjBxnIyxnQPracticing Gnosis Scott Rassbach
Archons are Barriers to soul exiting material world
Mother of Archons are Sophia
Origin wants to be accurate, ...?
Not clear cut who was Christian and who was Gnostic? 3:47
Boship Ken (orinetal Apostolic Church of DamascusNothing much...too boring Some more helping you out: youtu.be/_dSr5H0mFo4DAVID ICKE - THE ARCHONS Our senses only show us 3D, not other higher consciousness.
Our reality is hijacked by archons, different names of the same force.
serpent gods, children of serpent,
hopi people.
star people
demons of Christians
archons to the Gnositics
also called Jin to Mulsems
different names of the same thing.
Archon are made from illumious fire
Nag Hammadi library, near luxor, sealed jar with lots of documents
Gnostics, different view of reality than Christian religion
Ran the Alexander library, destroyed by Roman church. 4:07
Gnostic was dangerous, so Rome destroyed the scrolls
1/5 of text about force called archons
created our physical universe, equated with god.
archon mean principle ruler from beginning
demerige fake god, inorganic, artificial
they created inorganic parts of universe.
mind parasites, deception
archon create different order, once it's created 7:33
evil is "live" written backwards.
force is inversion of life, it and anything attached to it, is obsessed with death
death cult, is what about destroying and killing, natural order is about life and abundance
archon is about destoying life, that is their world...one of death,,, no creative imagination
that is what the archon wants.... no empathy, no ability of feeling, no limit to what you will do
parasite of the mind, banking is an exercise in parasites...
pathological liars,
Gnostic used the word "simulation" virtual reality
Make something appear to happen.
Jin create illusions
programming our perception, made house, an inversion of the natural order.
disconnect the human mind from the ocean
hack
Another world described, blue people, 12:47 archon made bad copy of our original world
dealing with infromation, decode into a lovely world.
replace the old reality, tune humans into that bad copy. Rob comments" How much of David Icke do you support here? He does not speak of fallen angels, so that is a bonus for you. Do you agree with Icke's comments here though? So you can see I am trying real hard to find a video that fully supports your view, and I can't find one. Perhaps you have a video that supports your view? Shalom
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Post by Dave on Nov 9, 2021 7:22:34 GMT -5
D"All he preaches = ENOCH and the WATCHERS R" yes, but LA never uses the word "archon" so he is not supporting your view Dave. D"you just want to play a word game with me R" No I don't, I am just asking you for a video of a person who supports your view. You haven't supplied me with one. You are so desperate – L.A, Marzulli is exactly my view
So I will help you out : youtu.be/cL0l6FC-H98
I own the Book – have many pages highlighted What are the Archons, Nephilim, Demons and Shadow People? Within 2 minutes he mentions the watcher class fallen angels, and calls them archons, meaning rulers or choef rulers, from the Book of Enoch. Absolutely – the name does not matter – some people call them demonic – some people call them the serpent race – Islam calls them Jinn – Enoch calls them Watchers (a function) – 1st Century Greeks call them archon – pagans call them gods – godless call the aliens (thay are from the outside)
"greek word archon means ruler of chief ruler Yes – been over this 700 times
Book of Enoch names 22 leaders over the 200, the word leader would have been "archon" leaders. Correct 0- the Watchers – bane elohiym – and their demi-god children (Nephilim) are all ARCHON
Didn't know others (gnostic) have different idea of archon. Higher ascended authorities. Pagans call them god – they are the ‘other gods’
These fallen ones feed on fear. 3:12 Not Catholic, Jewish, or Gnostic - This is 100% KORAN The Nag Hammadi doesn’t say they feed on fear – 1- man was given dominion over their domain – they are jealous of man (also Koran) 2- but the Jewish flavor is more that they toy with us for their own entertainment
Shadow People, I know from personal experience. People draw pictures of what they have seen "hat shadow man" 5"05 others describe the shadow people the same way. 100% my witness = Summer 1974 and it changed my life
Only way to invoke them was to say in Name of Jesus, let me go. 6:10 He says – he was at a very low point in his life – ME TOO He says – he was not right with Christ when it happened – ME TOO He says – multiple experiences – ME just ONE He invoked the name of Jesus – good for him – I ran as fast as I could until I fell to the ground gasping for air
the archons (there are good archons too) so Michael is an archon too, it's a Greek for positions of authority. YES – Michael is an archon-angel - and Joseph was governor (archon) of Egypt Archon is just a Greek word – and the 1st Century agl authors used it to identify – the bad-angels Correct – have discussed this 700 times
In occult the word is spun off as a ascended master. YES – all occult is 100% King Solomon based
Shadow people are low and some are higher than us, because we play with occult. Correct – Law against Necromancy – it opens the door to selfishness / ra - movement away Because it can suck you in
the archons (there are good archons too) Islam – the Hadith – good archon / good Jinn are GENIES They are helpful – they are desirable – they grant WISHES – they feed SELF This is only good to (yester ra) not your soul/spirit
Islam – bad Jinn are POLTERGIES - they toy with us for their own entertainment
Demons are not fallen angels, they are normal rebellious angels Normal regular angels just bad, shape shifters, YES – ABSOLTELY – no such thing as “Catholic Fallen Angels” They are who they are Two groups
Job 38:6 On what were its foundations set, or who laid its cornerstone— Job 38:7 when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job 38:7 when the (angels of God) sang together, and all the (bane elohiym) H7321 רוּעַ - rûa‛ - A primitive root; to mar (especially by breaking); figuratively to split the ears (with sound), that is, shout (for alarm or joy): - blow an alarm, cry (alarm, aloud, out), destroy, make a joyful noise, smart, shout (for joy), sound an alarm, triumph.
Two groups Demons are not fallen angels, they are normal rebellious angels Normal regular angels just bad, shape shifters, NOT FALLEN ANGELS – ASLO NOT REGULAR ANGELS Angels are ethereal – made of spirit The archon are NOT ethereal – because they are made with some matter Gen 3:14 – creatures of biology Gen 3:15 creatures that can have OFFSPRING
demons are dis-embodied angelic hybrids from nephilim, angel and human flesh, God never intended to have these, so when you kill the body, they become a spirit, and desire to possess a body again. YES – Book of Jubilees chapter 10 – quoted to you many times and desire to possess a body again – is a little Catholic flavor Demonic possession is very real – just not as Catholic Hollywood presents it FYI – Islam performs more exorcisms that the Catholics
So I would called the shadow people as demons, Nephilim, the spirit of a 18 foot giant, from a former hybrid. 13:31 End here – WHY – this is good stuff
Now while I disagree with the speakers view, Of course you do – neither video so far had focused upon Ezk 28
I get the impression your term for archons are "ascending masters", not "bad angels", hence this video does not support your view either, but it does mention all the words we are talking about. You are such an ass – dream on satan boy This entire book is about - the return of the Nephilim in a major way – influencing our media, education, and govenrments
Mat 24:37 “For just as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
Maybe you could find a video that supports your view, so I can see others are out there following your view. This video is excellent – I own the Book – never does he suggest a creation story he simply picks on the REALITY OF THE ARCHON Just like Enoch – he begins at Gen 6:1 – the bane elohiym already exist as he begins his book
Every video I have posted on this forum is in support of my views - DUH What of the two we just reviewed?
David Ike – “Just outside our field of vision are entities that are anything but human, who have been manipulating our WORLD from the outside for eons.” You say – you can see no theology in it All of it agrees with Enoch – the 2nd most quoted text in the agl You say Enoch had nothing to do with Jewish theology – WRONG You say Enoch is only Error and probably a forgery – because Rome says so
Two groups Demons are not fallen angels, - NO SUCH THING AS A FALLEN ANGEL
they are normal rebellious angels – they are the BEAST, the serpent race, devils, and satanas they are normal rebellious angels - Just bad, shape shifters, - Beelzebub and the shedim They are exactly as they appeared – agl Rev 12:3 They are exactly as they appeared – By the Left Hand – Jewish They are exactly as they appeared – By the HS – the Left Hand – Gnostic
They is no such thing as evolution – in the heavens or on the ground God creates a thing – for a specific purpose / function / assignment with the Intelligent Design No creature ever decided to change himself into a different being – 100% BULL SHIT No ism required – NOT creationism – JUST CREATION
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