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Post by Dave on Jun 1, 2012 13:20:49 GMT -5
Valery Uvarov, a Russian space researcher and ufologist concludes in the Russian press that Aliens are studying both mankind and our 3 dimensional reality, in search for their own version of a unified theory of their reality. They are looking for their God, from whom they have been disconnected somehow. Their research has revolved around the long drawn out religious slow play of humanity. The following links to the documentary are for parts 10 of 12 and 11 of 12. This is not my most favorite documentary - but the interview with Valery Uvarov is a must see. His interview begins at 5:21 of part 10 and then continues into part 11. The punch line of his whole interview is at the beginning of part 11. Part 10 www.youtube.com/watch?v=hga0TksYBUEPart 11 www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2nLglJ0YVg
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Post by Virginia on Jun 1, 2012 19:11:10 GMT -5
I have seen people abducted wherein they have a tiny transmiter put in their bodies, sometimes in an arm or leg. There is a doctor that specializes in removing yhese objects. They don't know what they are but they don't seem to work out of the body. These are clearly tracking devices.
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Post by Dave on Jun 1, 2012 19:13:28 GMT -5
They might do more than just track. They might transmit data as well. What data? I refer back to the Valery Uvonov interview.
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Post by Stella on Jun 3, 2012 1:20:12 GMT -5
OMG what an amazing concept:
They are looking for their God, from whom they have been disconnected somehow.
Never before have I heard such an idea. I have always wondered, if there really were Aliens visiting us, what would be their motive? Pure scientific study? Has anyone read the book "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Universe?" In the book Aliens are studying humanity to solve the universal question: 'What is the meaning of life?' The ultimate scientific study!
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Post by Virginia on Jun 3, 2012 8:13:40 GMT -5
I never thought of this idea. I sort of thought they were following God's instructions. I think they are confused about our emotional makeup. I know there is life after death because when my son and husband were dying I told them to sent me a sign that there is life after death and they both did. Both my son and husband would ring my phone and talk to me, although I could not make out the words. My husband died in the middle of the night and he came into my bedroom to say goodby and he visited my other son and daughterin law so we were all awake when the hospice facility called to tell me he had died. They still come but not so often anymore. Now mostly on holidays. At another time I will talk about living in ahaunted house.I think sometimes when people die an unexpected death they are confused and do not move to the light. Maybe a person only has a limited amount of time to do it.
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Post by Dave on Jun 3, 2012 9:40:42 GMT -5
Oh yes - many of them are agents of spiritual; warfare. Agents of wickedness. The powers and principalities spoke of by Paul in Ephesians.
Remember scripture tells us that these creatures have been disconnected from their God. This is a very scriptural statement.
It sort of like talking about the human population. To group all people into the same basket all the time is always a mistake. Some humans are closer to the Creator than others. Those that are very close are rare indeed. Some think they are close. Some yern to be close. Some could care less. Some don't even care or have never even considered being close - or considered that there is even a God to be close to. Some deny that there is a God. Some are focused on false gods.
As with everything - I am sure this is a much bigger story than all of them being one way or another.
Some are definitely agents of darkness - decedents of the Watchers, and Archons, These creatures are 1/2 breed human therefore must expire at some point. Some are the the Nephilium that Fathered these Watchers and Archons.
Gen 3:15 sets up an opposition force to humanity. Eve's seed versus Satan's Seed (better translated as the Serpents seed). During the time of Adam and Eve 100% of humanity knew God personally. Since then, humanity has multiplied into the many various independent groups we have today. AND into the many different religious groups that corrupt that closeness to the Creator.
Regardless of our personal mis-beliefs - all of humanity are pawns in God's plan.
It would not surprise me at all that the generations of these Watchers and Archons have also grown into a vast diversity that are pawns in the same plan, even if they are unaware of it.
Afterlife! Now we are getting somewhere - you and I. You mentioned the afterlife being a real and tangible thing. So if humanity has someplace to go after death? What about Aliens? What would you think happens to them when they expire? Where do they go?
This is absolutely address in Book of Enoch. Enoch was the father of Methuselah and the great-grandfather of Noah. Talk about ancient writings!!! Enoch ascended into heaven twice and returned once. Enoch was show the workings of the universe by God Himself. The Book of Enoch has always been a companion Book of the OT even during the times of Christ. Some people say that even Christ quoted from the Book of Enoch. Although I have never found it to be true. The Book of Jubilees does quote directly from Enoch. However, the Book of Jubilees is only found as a part of formal scripture in the Ethiopian Orthodox Christian Bible - a small group indeed. AND - the most current copy of the Book of Enoch comes from the Dead Sea Scrolls. (which was an Alien contact group like the "Heavens Gate" group of California)
In the Book of Enoch he travels through 7 heavens before he meets up with God in heaven's 8, 9, & 10. Talmudic Jews have 7 heavens, Islam has 7 heavens, the OT has 7 different Jewish words all translated as heaven, the Hindus have 7 heavens. Add to these 7 Enoch's 8, 9, & 10 ( which I see as our dimensions 1, 2 , & 3) and it all adds up to 10 - just like the 10 dimensions of space predicated by String Theory Physics. Our 3 + 7 more localities of heaven = 10 every time. Thus the very bases of MULTIDIMENSIONALISM.
So, back to the afterlife. As Enoch traveled the 7 heavens he reported many creatures there in chains awaiting judgment. Some of them he called the Giorgi, which are the army of Watchers specified by Enoch. There they wait in chains until judgment day. Jews believe they will wait in the grave until judgment day. Catholics wait in a place called purgatory. Only christian believe they have an instant path to the heaven occupied by Christ and God.
The Book of Revelation speaks plainly about some already being in the Group of saints while other are re-awakened / released from the grave and Hades to be found in the Book of Life or not.
I think it extremely arrogant to think this is speaking about only humanity. If we are all a part of the same "Big Picture," we will all be there at the end - human and Alien alike.
So, you have touched on the heart of the matter. The reality of a viable and tangible afterlife opens the door to the fact that the "Big Picture" must be more complex than just us and little green men from another planet!
One last word on multidimensionalism. Many people I talk to see this concept as drifting away from God and His creation and placing to much importance into science and scientific terminology. But consider this. We exist in a 3 dimensional reality. By very definition the first Dimension is that SINGULARITY that contains all points - all data - all knowledge - omniscience - from which all other dimensions are based upon. Boy, if you needed a reason to believe in a one and only supreme being at the base of all creation - here it is!
Peek over at the Multidimensional section of this blog to read more of this or comment. Just as with all things - these discussions of reality overlap in so many ways and appear so completely interwoven, because they are all facets of the same "Big Picture."
Good post! Keep it up!
Dave
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Post by Richard on Aug 17, 2012 15:07:45 GMT -5
I loved the Vallery Uvarov interview.
Thank you
What do you know about Project Camalot?
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Post by Dave on Aug 17, 2012 23:07:29 GMT -5
A Husband and Wife team?
They make independent documentaries. Interviews with interesting UFO / weird experts.
A lot of it is interesting to watch. I can remember several that I documented for myself.
You Tube it - I am sure there is a lot.
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Post by Richard on Dec 10, 2012 12:49:31 GMT -5
Secret files on aliens, UFO sightings a joke or cover up? Examiner.com, Secret Files on Aliens, December 8, 2012, Bruce Baker www.examiner.com/article/secret-files-on-aliens-ufo-sightings-a-joke-or-cover-upAre top secret files on aliens and UFOs kept by Russian heads of state? Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev talked extraterrestrial life and UFO sightings Friday after a televised interview in Moscow. Did the former president, who was succeeded by Vladimir Putin, show off his subtle sense of humor or is there some truth to other-worldly life? In an AP story via the Clarion Ledger on Dec. 7, it was suggested that what Medvedev said after his interview on Ostankino TV Center, arguably, received the most attention. After the interview concluded, the cameras continued to run. At some point, the former president told a journalist that leaders get two folders containing top secret files on aliens that came to Earth and remained. Medvedev cautioned that he could not tell them "how many of them are among us, because it may cause panic." In 1948, a UFO sighting took place over Kapustin Yar, a rocket and launch research base in Russia. Many call the area "Russia's Roswell" or the Soviet Union's equivalent to Area 51 in the United States. Reportedly, an cigar-shaped object suddenly appeared over an area near the base. A MIG pilot was flying at the time and reported being blinded by its reflection. At some point, the order was given to engage the UFO sighting. The pilot fired, striking the object and both craft plummeted toward the ground. The pilot is said to have died after being hit by a "proton beam." Sources say soldiers collected the debris from the unidentified flying object and carried it underground. Further still, Joseph Stalin, Premier of the Soviet Union at the time, believed the encounter was real. As a result, he is said to have ordered plans for increased UFO research. Could the top secret files on aliens have started here? In 1892, something strange called the "Pillar of Light" was seen in parts of Russia. It was described as a large beam of light pointing towards the Earth's surface. The unidentified flying object hurled light for 25 minutes.
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