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Moon
Jun 10, 2012 13:39:19 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jun 10, 2012 13:39:19 GMT -5
I just want to remind you of the words of Werner Von Braun. When referring to weaponization of space, he said:
First it would be about the Russians Then it would be about terrorist Then third world rogue nations Last, it would be about an Alien threat.
Then he said - it is all a lie.
Think about his statement for a moment. - "it is all a lie!" There will never be a threat from space. Remember, Werner Von Braun worked for Hitler in WWII Germany. According to his mentor, the German's had help from Aliens. Therefore Werner Von Braun had to know all about them, he was their rocket guy after all. He was the scientist that built the Saturn 5 rocket that took us to the moon.
So - there are Aliens, but they are not - or ever will be - a threat (militarily). Evidently, they have a different agenda - a different motive. The question is - what motive would that be?
Again - this brings be back to a more spiritual connection than one of corporeal.
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Moon
Jul 4, 2012 22:53:23 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jul 4, 2012 22:53:23 GMT -5
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Moon
Jul 5, 2012 8:26:02 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jul 5, 2012 8:26:02 GMT -5
If aliens wanted to attack us and take over they could have done it thousands of years ago when the population was just a few. We are "THEM". They created us as we are today. We are their experiment. If we go to another planet we will do the same thing. We are already making plans to colonize Mars.If we create life on Mars or the moon would we later on go there and destroy it? NO
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Moon
Jul 5, 2012 8:40:53 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jul 5, 2012 8:40:53 GMT -5
To say - we are them - they created us - is a view that is only considering one data set, ignoring all other evidence. Adding all of history, and all of recorded text,as well as current events Aliens take on a much different image.
There is absolutely no chance that a biological life form - from anywhere - created time, suns, stars, planets, or us.
Messed with us, manipulated us, even modifying some of us - YES. Using our DNA to construct "look alike" hybeids that can live within our environment - Yes. Watching and observing us throughout history - Yes
Because there are so many of them - and because they have been with humanity since the beginning prove they are a part of our creation story. It doesn't prove they were our creators.
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Moon
Jul 5, 2012 10:35:44 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jul 5, 2012 10:35:44 GMT -5
I never said they created the universe. The universe created itself after the big bang when all the necessary elements came together. When I say the aliens created us I mean they took primative man and helped our evolutionalong. If God created the universe then God resided in another universe. So are you saying God went around creating lots of universes? Why? If he had a universe where he presides --Why find it necessary to create another one. If God destroys earth then he is God over what? ----NOTHING-----unless as you believe he has other universes that he likes better than us.
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Stella
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Moon
Jul 5, 2012 23:44:05 GMT -5
Post by Stella on Jul 5, 2012 23:44:05 GMT -5
I never said they created the universe. The universe created itself ...
Nothing was sitting bored one day and decided to be something?
When I say the aliens created us I mean they took primative man and helped our evolution along.
There is no such thing as evolution. Show me one example. Show me one missing link, between and species. Read Dave's paper on Evolution he has a lot of good examples there.
If evolution exist - why did it stop? We still have single celled organisms. What evidence that anyone has ever discover a newly evolved species
If God created the universe then God resided in another universe. So are you saying God went around creating lots of universes?
All I can speak to is the universe I live.
Why? If he had a universe where he presides --Why find it necessary to create another one.
Ever drive by a construction site? Earth movers, piles of steel and lumber, maybe even some pipe and wire in piles around the construction site. Could you tell what the finished product would look like? Could you? You are thinking like an earthling. Only God knows the scale of it all or the why.
If God destroys earth then he is God over what? -
The universe is a big place. Just how big is the earth, or you and me, against the scale of the universe. I read your post here. You believe in aliens. So the universe does not revolve around earth or us alone.
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Moon
Jul 6, 2012 23:53:31 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jul 6, 2012 23:53:31 GMT -5
Cool format Stella!
Yes I still believe the aliens helped us to become intelligent. We went from living in caves munching on roots to begin speaking a language and to building shelters. Maybe the word evolution is not the word I should use but I don't know how else to try to explain it.
Dear Virginia, if you read my book, you know full well that I have a much different view of our beginnings. Before the flood, earth was a high pressure gas giant. You could have driven a car across China - Japan - and California. Most of today's ocean are was missing. The land masses were all touching at their continental shelves. There was a gap in the firmament for birds to fly. Dinosaur and man lived together - but in different places. T Rex in Wyoming and man in South Africa and Yemen.
Multiple species of man lived together. Then God made Adam - AND BREATHED THE BREATH OF LIFE into him! AND man became a LIVING BEING. Gave him a wife and only gave them - 1 - ONE - UNO - boundary.
The first social experiment. What was learned? Adam and Eve were face to face with the Glory of God. Adam was right there when Eve came alone - that had to impress Adam just a little bit - don't you think. There can be no doubt that both Adam and Eve believed in God! Yet, without physical contact Eve was easily persuaded by a corporeal - physical - conversation by a creature she just met. The point of the Serpent's rational - it is OK to disobey God - be selfish - be carnal.
Same lesson learned by Cain.
End of round 1 and God de-evolves man and expands the experiment.
Then messengers were sent here by GOD - get that He sent them here. But after a while, they fathered 1/2 breed children. 1/2 breed humanoid creatures of various forms - Giants / ?.
So here we are. The descendents of Adam are living on a ocean-less planetoid, at the heart of a gas giant protoplanet. Dinosaurs are there. Multiple humanoid species, + messengers from extraterrestrial realms - possibly dimensional realms, who start throwing their weight around.
Bullies in a sandbox! Their 1/2 breed children that use and abuse humanity so badly - that the human experiment was about to fail! Absolute power leading to corruption.
Same lesson learned from social experiment #2 Again God De-evolves man - life span limited to 120 yrs - man gives up being a vegan - and for the fist time in earth's history there is rain / snow and the weather patterns that go along with them.
End of round 2, God uses the Global Flood of Noah to reset the game - change the rules.
Earth become the planet we know today. These original extraterrestrial / dimensional messengers can no longer live comfortably here. Earth is a different planet than before the flood. However, their 1/2 breed children can be here - they are 1/2 human after all. AND any corporal - physical creature - would have to have wings and feathers or a craft to fly.
Humanity starts over. these 8 people were not stupid or cavemen. They were the engineering team that just built the ark. In just a few hundred years man wound up in Babel. Smart enough! Organized enough! To build a complex to take them into the heavens.
If you want to hear a Jewish Legend - these Babel guys were taking the war back to the enemy. The creatures that almost destroyed humanity before the flood. The creatures that caused the end of the world - once.
Again God separates man and Archon - by destroying Babel - and again God de-evolves man - and man can no longer work together because of the fear of differences.
AND THE END RESULT of all this was to seperate once again the distance between humanity and the Archon - turning planet earth into a long quagmire of religious social struggle.
End of round 3 and the experiment again expands.
These different language humans spread out from Northern Africa, Egypt (O-Sirus), Eithopia, Turkey, Iraq (Sumar - Annaki) , India (Vishnew and the Vedic Text), and Loas - then later South America. Machu Picchu and Tiahuanaco - Easter Island.
These human were not cave men - they were not stupid - Ark then Babel! But they did - once again - get suckered in by creatures that seem more god-like then themselves. These god-like creature were extraterrestrial aliens - otherwise known as Archons - 1/2 breed humanoid creatures.
Now here is the most interesting part of the story - why did they leave? This is going to blow you earth centered view of the universe - but - they were fighting amongst themselves - there was trouble on their home planets -
End of round 4 and again God separates the two factions of his experiment - the war has become a cold war of ideology.The point of the Serpent's original rational - it is OK to disobey God - be selfish - be carnal -- evolved into - God doesn't exist - He is not real - don't listen to that Bible crap - be carnal - be greedy - enjoy physical life.
And the message is still the same - and we stand poised for another global social readjustment - another resetting of the game using only the survivors of round 4.
The next phase is a spiritual awakening - and the game steps up a level.
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