My main point here is that the photon isn’t what you think it is. It isn’t a tiny little ball of light. It isn’t light as a particle. However, light is still pretty weird. There is a quantum nature to the electric and magnetic fields in light (quantum theory of radiation). But most of the stuff you look at can be explained using a classical wave model of light and a quantized model for matter.OK I will discuss quantum physics with you
Light is weirs because it is the only wave that travels in a vacuum – without a supporting medium
A wave in the water – requires the water
A wave in the air requires the air
Light acts like a wave – in all senses except – it requires no medium
This is light’s weirdness
Man has ZERO tools for measuring light in motion – but we can measure its interaction with another particle
This impact of light against particle – indicates a linear momentum - like a particle
The linear momentum of one quantum of light = one hv – this is a measure of frequency
The greater the frequency of the wave = the greater impact upon an object
The math mandates the wave to be more massive – or a faster flow of particle like objects –that are actually small packets of energy
If the wave was more massive – we would measure it – wave has no mass – it is a motion – a movement
This led quantum physics toward the observation – the act of measuring the cosmos affects the cosmos
Human observation – affects the outcome – how is this possible
Light is a non-thing packet of energy – it only becomes a particle when we observe it
Space is black – empty – filled with light waves – we observe as they interact with physical objects – planets – moon
R What your saying, is there is no basis for the HS to be a Personal co-eternal Being, this medium thing is just a wave expression from the Father-YHWH. YES – God is the source – God is the speaker of the Word – the thought behind the Word
His Word went out from Him as He spoke it – it expanded – it filled the multiverse
But there was nothing before this word – so this Word is the ether – the matrix – the EM spectrum of the universe
And the Word – the EM spectrum – quarks- subatomic-particles – atoms (adams) became 3D reality
Actually it is a 10D construct – we men – are limited to the small portion of the EM spectrum
We experience this EM spectrum as it sustains our physics + chemistry + biology
We also experience this EM spectrum as visible light – that illuminates and educates
We realize Gen 1:1 – God fattened Himself as the Word spoken throughout the multiverse
The Word was with God – the Word was beside God – spirit – omnipresent spirit
And the Word was God – in 3D image form = Christ
E =c
2m –
one omnipotent and omniscient E = the omnipresent spirit of that E and the 3D image
There is only one E – c2 is the E translated (distance) – m is the E transmuted (form)
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re we allowed to mess around with the nature of the HS? And the Shadday, the personal Being of the HS?Not nature – indentityYou have 3 co-eternal gods
I have one One True God – I can experience His as Spirit – or as Christ
God = HS = Christ
You have your theory, I have mine. We are different. I do not follow all theories made by popular science.
I must fit Science into Scripture first, not the other way round, as you might do.Excuse me – John 1:1-4 predates any current science theory
The Jewish Shekinah predates and current science theory
Gnostic Valintinius predates any current science theory – Father, Son, and Holy Ghost
The Trinity predates any science theory
Science is just now catching up with scriptureJob 33:3 says the Shadday and the HS show duality functions. Maybe this is a silly idea on my part, but it describes to me the agency of the medium is controlled by a Personal co-eternal member of Elohiym, not as you say, an expression of the Father. Mediums are entities that carry somebody else's power.
D God is the el – singularity
God is the God of everything – including ‘other gods’, ‘other gods’ = archon – serving the Lord
R How can GOD be above other gods, if GOD also designed them to serve Him,
than GOD cannot be above them?
Your logic is faulty.
if GOD also designed them to serve Him, then GOD cannot be above them?I am not sure if you mean this as a Joke –
God created something else – but cannot be superior to itI really don’t understand your statement –
God is the Creator – no one else
‘other gods’ are not creator beings – at best they are no more than angelic beings
But out of respect for the angels that praise - we / I call then archon (a different group)
You miss the important question
Why did God only introduce Himself to the 1%Leaving the 99% free to fall victim to false gods
Doesn’t a God of Love – love everybody?
So 99% of the world is YHWY-less – yet inside (instinctively) they understand there must be a creator
Any parlor trick magician – could have gained worship
Any (>3 dimensional) being that wanted to be worshiped – could be
Baal, Moloch, Chermush, Dogon, Ashtoreth, are all (angelic like) spirit beings = archon
There is a whole family of them – why – because they are offspring of the First Archon – satan’s seedEnoch, Sumar, Egypt, Greece, Hittites, Rome, Norse, Indochina, Japan 200 pseudo-gods with 20 major players
They are a family – marriages and divorces with children that infight a quarrel over man
The ancient KINGs – were genetically modified – or were just the right genetic make up for possession
Priest Kings – became Kings as the interface between man and the gods – became the 13 Families the run the world today
This has always been going on – out side of the 1%
This is still going on – outside the 1%
Outside of the 1% - this is the only reality they know
Why – if God is love only – why doesn’t He introduce Himself to everyoneInstead – God only introduces Himself to Abraham, Jacob, and Isaac – and then a few more Jewish Kings and prophets and gives them a mission – a purpose
Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.
You want to blow this verse off – but it defines the Jewish / Christian walk
Israel - <1% of the world’s population is charged to reveal God Glory to all the nations of the worldHow does Israel do this – as every other nation in the known world has tried to stamp out Israel and the Jew –
God walks with the Jew when the Jew walks with God
The walls of Jericho fell
2000 Israeli shop owners, merchants, and farmers defeated 22000 hardened Roman troops in full battel gear
Hitler did his best – the final solution
Yet Israel is here with a world class economy and military
Has it been any fun being a Jew – NONow we are in the age of the Gentile and the pathway to the divine pardon is available to us through Christ
If we choose to be a Christian – we become spiritual descendants of Abraham – we are supposed to be spiritual Messianic Jews revealing God’s Glory to the world and Jesus discribes this walk in Mat 10
It isn't asny fun eitherInstead we are chuchians – fractures into a disunity - infighting – are begging for money
D God uses the ‘other gods’ and the archon to facilitate His Will on earth
Just as God uses satan to facilitate His Will
R this is sillyI know the story of salvation is written to the 1%
But what of the 99% - why does the 99% exist – why are they allowed (not told any differently) to worship ‘pseudo-gods’Baal – Zeus – mammon – money – power – fame – self
SO GOD designed this war in heaven, God uses Satan to test humans to do moral RA, this is God's will too.The war in heaven was the hiding away – the eviction – of the First Archon from the presence of God and hidden away in the choshek (darkness)
The war was not a WWI or WWII type of event
The RA cannot exist in the light – light ejects the shadow instantly
So sin was also designed by GOD? You have GOD creating moral RA creatures, that do not sin?
This violates the only way we can see sin or not see sin. How do you know if a creature sins or not, if sin is both designed by GOD as well as transgression of God's law ?OK – here we are back to a definition of sinI will use your definition ‘to miss’ – to miss what – to miss choosing God
In my college years – everyone wore a bracelet – WWJD – What Would Jesus Do
And I even thought of life as each choice = WWJD or not – mitzvah or chata
I no longer see it this simply
If I kill one man to save another – have I sinned?
If I kill a man by mistake – have I sinned
In confession I would be told - you did not murder my son
Then I go to war and drop a bomb and it kilss 250 people and some old women ans children
I did not see them die - all I did was push a button - have I sinned
I went on a mission to kill them - deliberately - did I sin
In comfession I am told - you did it for your country - you were following orders
Just as the Jews killed many as they moved into Canaan - they are soldiers
David sent Uraih out to die - that was a sin
Was Uraih sinning as he killed the enemy before him?
God told satan – go to it – do your worse – did satan sin?
God was satan to Balaam – did God sin?
God sentenced all mortal men to mortal death –
God killed an entire planet full of people – did God sin?
Answer – our definition of sin is flawedIf God is in absolute control – and the cross and Resurrection is a necessary part of God’s Plan – God’s Will – then Judas must do what he did – Pilot must do what he did – his wife must do what she did – the Jewish nation MUST reject Christ – to open the age of the Gentile
If God is in absolute control – then a whole lot of sin was necessary to facilitate God’s Plan
So – I ask – is it a sin to obey God?
The archons mission is to test all creation – NOT ONLY TO GET MAN TO SIN
They cause decay – erosion – entropy on multiple levels – is this a sin?
They help man to forget who we are – where we are from – and our mission here – entropy of memory
Erosion of the tov within us – decay to purity – this is their job
If the archon today desired public worship – they would be everywhere No – limited to the Lavant – where they still exist under the command of AllahYour logic is faulty.
If sin is defined as transgression of law, Whose law?– yours? – the Torah was written for man – man’s LawGOD cannot ever create creatures that do moral RA, for this violates the laws defining moral RA.And yet – God made man Hmmmmm?D Then who did Cain marry?
R Cain married a daughter of Eve and Adam, the first parents of earth. Scripture does not list all the children of Adam and Eve.
Gen 4:16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
Gen 4:17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Cain married a woman from the land of Nod – to the east of the Euphrates = Persia
I have a lot more with this – but not today
D Lillith is a Jewish concept
R Yes, but Jewish or not, such as concept does not follow Moses Hebrew torah.
Which Torah concept is that Gen 3:15?D You refuse to answer – because angels are spirit beings
R Oh, your saying angels are spirit beings, and hence invisible to humans?
Where does Scripture say this? It doesn't.Jesus also was resurrected walked right through the room the disciples were in, in the same body, with scars all over it, denying the solid wall too. So things are not as we imagine... nothing to do with "spirit bodies".
Jesus either walked through a wall/door
Or – he just popped in – appeared – Star trek transported beam
This has everything to do with spirit3D biology did not walk through a wall – 3D biology did not appear in a poof
Elijah’s servant could not see the spiritual army outside – because they were not 3D biology
What does this mean –
to be a spirit being FROM MAN’S PERSPECTIVERemember this is an import part of the equation
Man is looking up at the heavens - this is a reference to an increase in energy levels
God is looking down upon his creation – two different perspectives
The servant could not see the spiritual army
We cannot see the angels around us
We cannot see the archon around us
“Because man = 3D biology and we are only able to see a small fraction of the EM spectrum called visible light – outside of the range are entities that are anything but human” David Ike
The archon and the system want us only to focus on the visible right in front of us
Do not see the big picture – be limited to what you can see and precieve
FROM MAN’S PERSPECTIVE – spirit being are >3D beings – they are 4D beings, 5D, and 6D
4D being the dimension closes to us is occupied by the principalities (archon demons)
As well as our guardian angels
5D beings are the princes and sars – rulers – powers
As well as Good angels
6D beings are arch-angels – Chief Archon
7D = 7th heaven = the home of God (Jewish expression – “Ahh – to be in 7th heaven”)
Spirit beings are being from higher dimensions Do they have bodies – sure – is it anything like us – no
They are extra-dimensional beings – intra-dimensional visitors
They visit us in our realm from their realm – we say heaven – but it is actually a another dimension
Just as – modern UFO discussion are focused upon intra-dimensional visitors
The vision at Fatima – UFO or angels = intra-dimensional visitation
The vision to Constantine - UFO or angels = intra-dimensional visitation
Jacobs ladder – Ezekiel’s vision – John’s vision – Paul’s trip into the heavens
A cloud of smoke by day – and a pillar of fire at night – Enoch – the writings of Solomon
All if it = UFO or angels = intra-dimensional visitation
D And you deny the spirit
R you agree with me spirit = character. (in context of man)
Now you making spirit into something else.
Did I agree? If I did maybe I shouldn’t – a man’s character can be altered by biologicaly
Drugs – alter your character – both good and bad
Therefore – this must be biology – not spirit
Spirit is that ‘living energy’ within the animal
It is an essence – a thing – a being – it is a person – it is the non-biological part of us that stands judgment
Energy cannot be created and destroyed –
God didn’t make us – then extinguish us – then relight us later
Life lives – living energy lives – our soul returns to God
If you die in Christ – you receive the divine pardon from spiritual death
You are the first fruits
If you do not die in Christ – but are just a believer – You are judged by your deeds, works, and fruit (but fruit is different)
If you are judge solely on your deeds and works – it is
Proportional PunishmentEven if you die in ignorance – you are judged on your works and deeds
If you are a Christian – you are also REWARDED for your fruitFruit is not good deeds – or nice speeches
Fruit is bringing others to God – fulfilling our mission in this world – to reveal God to all the nations – or a nation – or people – or anyone – or only one
Jesus calls Peter his satan - meaning Peter is not thinking the same direction as Jesus - a hinderance
Gnostic literature calls us to a Christ - as in save other souls
If I drag you away from Christ - I am your satan (function)
If I bring you to Christ - I am being a Christ
Gnostic literature call us to not just be Christian - but to be a ChristChristians critizise this - how can we be a Christ?
Gnostic response - how can Peter be the satan?
D I like living energy – spirit – soul – I agree
R good .
I like living energy – character – soul – I agree too
D I see God is immortal – but we are not?
R If mortality (the torch nephesh) is partnered to a battery that no longer ceases to empower you, but always empowers you (the torch), your light shines for eternity. Than the mortality puts on immortality. Does not the NT say it this way?
Jews and Gnostics speak of the divine pardon – this is just the continuance of something we already have
You speak of a gift at the end – as if we do not have it – but receive it later
D Explain Paul’s journey into heaven
R visionI see 2 Cor 12 as a real life event
Just as Enoch was a real life event
Just as the Transfiguration was a real event
No metaphor God chose not to fix polygamy with Abram and two wives? Or Solomon with a concurbine?Funny you should mention thisFrom a different conversation –
Dave says – “My Grandparents” (on mom’s side) – devout Christians
I doubt Grandpa ever saw her naked
Both would dress in the bathroom alone and lived in an era of chamber pots and wood stoves
Grandma never approved of my relationships
Yet Jacob fathered the 12 tribes by 4 different women
Married to two of them – owned one of them – and one was a gift
D So you are saying 1 Samuel 28 is all a lie
R God uses RA to make His will happen. Thank you I agree – God uses RA to facilitate His Will – YES!
God uses RA as a toolD you say this process takes an entire life time – Paul changed with one encounter – a singular event
R
not so, Paul got sharpy angry over Barnabus.Jesus got sharply angry at the money changers in the Temple
Yet Jesus is the Christ – Hmmmmm?
Sanctification is a part of salvation. It means growing in Jesus.
Salvation is a seed, as well as a seedling that grows.
I’ll take thatSure you take the seed. But that is the start of Jesus. You also have to allow Jesus to grow in you. That takes time.
As a Gnostic – not criticizing you – but doesn’t this teach slowness – teaches excuses
Is the thought – “I know its wrong – but I am a new Christian and weak – so God will forgive me later”Joyce Meyer – televangelist –
Just prayersJust forgive me for this and that – and we spend all our time apologizing for crap God already knows
D I SO DISAGREE – Paul changed instantly!
William Tyndell changed instantly!
R Yes taking the Seed is a miracle to some.
I can tell you the moment in time – the location – and who was there when I first realize ‘invisible entities’ exist as fact – not belief
I can tell you the moment in time – the location – and who was in the room, when Christ came into my life as fact – not beliefWhat is your witness?D To say we are Born Again every day – is not to understand the concept
R OK, how does GOD create new characters in us, without destroying our older sinful characters we still have, but is now forgiven?
Yesteryear – there were clans and tribes – I am Dave son of Harry – I am the Duke of Wellington – I am Dave the Jew - Born Again – into a new family = Dave the Christian
From this moment on I have the family name and no one can take it away from me
Instant – trust it – trust in the LORD
Don’t believe in Him – know Him = gnosis
Roman Christendom – presents such a narrow view mythology that its mythology is falling apart – losing appeal – lie to me once ok – twice – well - 3 time and the church just become more and more a lie
The Patriarchs – The Prophets - John the Baptist – King David – needed no organized religion
The First Christians did not have an organized religion
So how do we know God1- study scripture without a religious bias
You believe in satan and you read him into everything
This is a bias- it distracts from the Judaism
How can Christianity built upon Judaism turn around and then de-jewdaise Christianity into something different – not a little differ – but totally different – looks like infiltration and subversion to me
2- as we study Scripture – don’t forget to study God
He is all around us – everywhere all the time – his handiwork is right there in front of our face
Jews at the end of 1945 did not understand the ra of Hitler
Jews in 1948 used it as a rally cry to reinstall Israel as one of the richest and most powerful countries in the world - again in 1967 – and today
And today this all looks tov to them – and to me
Not only history and current events
E=mc
2 is right in front of us – simple elegant
And currently – I am so fascinated between the correlation between Spacex’s reach for the heavens and the idea of being multi-planetary for the survival of the species Gen 11:4 And they said, Come, let us build us a city, and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven, and let us make us a name; lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
Captain Kirk,
“To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before”Neal Armstrong,
“One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind”Plus are current affairs looking a lot like Ezk 38
More and more everyday – especially with this new deal between China and Iran
3-prayer - and I don't mean asking for stuff - but listening
A Christian Paster once told me I am just saing to medatate - pagen - Hindu - Yoga
Maybe metatative prayer is a good way to describe it
Communing - opening yourself - willing to hear
4- recognising God in everything - just a week ago our car made it all the way home - then died
I give the thanks to God - my car is dead, thank you God - evedentily he is telling me to fix it
I drive down the road at sunride here ad it is postcard perfect - thank you God
No ne in my personal family has been sick - thank you God
President Trump and Party Leader Xi are threatening WWIII - thank you God
it will bring about Ezk 38 - thank you God
which will lead to the 2nd coming - thank you God
I have a pain - I am so aware of my own mortality - I look forward to the years left - as a count down
Thank you God - The more I understand this - the more I need Christ - Thank you God
The Exegesis on the Soul - The Nag Hammadi LibraryIt is therefore fitting to pray to the father and to call on him with all our soul - not externally with the lips, but with the spirit, which is inward, which came forth from the depth - sighing; repenting for the life we lived; confessing our sins; perceiving the empty deception we were in, and the empty zeal; weeping over how we were in darkness and in the wave; mourning for ourselves, ...
... repentance takes place in distress and grief. But the father is good and loves humanity, and he hears the soul that calls upon him and sends it the light of salvation. Therefore he said through the spirit to the prophet (cf. 1 Cl 8:3), "Say to the children of my people, 'If your sins extend from earth to heaven, and if they become red like scarlet and blacker than sackcloth, and if you return to me with all your soul and say to me 'my Father!', I will heed you as a holy people.'"Walking as a Christian has nothing to do with ritual worship
If you are called to public displays of rituaistic worship - go for it
all we are called to do is fellowship
Our time together is more valuable to me than a year of church service
Growm men sitting around discussing the Holy Spirit - that is my kind of service - that is my kind of worship - because we are fullfilling the purpose of our lives - the meaning of our lives
To reveal God's Glory to this world
The Rabbi say - eben Eve knew this - She and Adam could not fullfill this mission while in Paradise
So she deliberately step down into the lower world - where she could do her mission
Who are we witnessing to? other men - sure
But we are in fullview od all creation
entities - angelic and archon are WATCHING us
God is WATCHING us
nothing is hidden
Our witness is to the entire cosmos - to the angel and to the archon
God turned over Job to satan and satan could not get Job to curse God
Don't you think satan also learned a lesson here?
How?
An Amish man that I had great respect for - because he was a man and a Christian
Hot Augest day and he is sweating like a pig
Ora - I asked - why don't you take off your hat
His reply - it is his reminder that he is overshasowed by a higher power
He said - he can do things in from of me - that he would not do in front of the boss
he would do things in front of his wife that he would not do in front of me
IMAGINE that Jesus Christ is stand right next to you - it impacts your conduct!
His hat - is just his reminder that Jesus is right there
That was August 1979 and I have worn a hat since (just a thing)
I know people who discuss everything with God - Oh I can't stand them - God led me down a road and made me turn here - then God and God and God - in every conversation
Makes me wonder - who they are talking to - because they never shut up to listen
Peter was called differently than Paul
John served a different purpose
Mary palyed an importsnt role
even Herod played a role
We are all called differently - to maximise our individual strengths - to acomplish our true mission
Now the BIGGEST QUESTION -
we have been discussing FREE WILL - as God's special gift to man - the ability to Choose God or Not
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated (G4309) us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
G4309 - προορίζω - to limit in advance, that is, (figuratively) predetermine: - determine before, ordain, predestinate.
Joh 15:16 “You did not choose Me, but I chose you. ...
and
Pro 16:4 The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.
So what about it - are some deliberately blinded from the truth
if so why - by what Feel Good Loving character of God - why
The answer - they must be all a part of God's Plan
How - why?
Why did God leave 99% of the world to the realm of 'other gods' / false gods / pseudogods?
God's Plan is beyound us - Thank God for that