Jud 1:9 … Michael the archangel …
Jud 1:9 ὁ δὲ Μιχαὴλ ὁ ἀρχάγγελος …
ἀρχάγγελος = ἀρχά = άγγελος
ἀρχά – as you went on at length – archie = FIRST
άγγελος – angel – messenger
Now you show me your verse proving Jesus Christ was just an angel sent to earth
This is what Islam says
This is what Unitarians say
Jesu was just an enlightened man
NO - Jesus was the Christ
True Christians = Jesus Christ was God incarnate
This is why and how Jesus resisted the direct temptation
Because Jesus the man = Jesus the Christ
If you insist in believing in Ezk 28 and a full third of heaven’s angels gave in to temptation
Then this also proves Christ could not have been an angel – Christ is more than them
This is offensive and anti-Christian
I will leave you to ponder your confusion with GOD, the HS will convict you, not me.
But you judge not?You now say the archons oppose the whole of creation, but not GOD directly.
Here are your words:
YES! During the Christian Gap – or the Gnostic First age that all took place in the invisible heavens
The woman – the womb of creation = the Shaddy / HS / the ruwach of God / Sophia the Goddess of Wisdom / Comforter
What is her Child – all creation
I was smiling as I read this....we are almost on the same page...
Than you back track yet again:
If you promise not to go back to your two god and one opposes the other god theology - we can proceed some more...?
(BTW god is not a good choose of word...)
(BTW – your words) Dave writes: "
See – you have two Kings and two godsYes I have two Kings and two gods opposing each other. What's wrong with that?
Everything is wrong with that.
So your saying the Opposer opposes only the child under the administration of the Shadday matrix? That is weird logic,
The ALL was created by God – period!YES! The 2nd dimension
The 1st dimension = a singularity = God – the Word was God
The 2nd dimension = is an expression of distance – Time - the planar matrix of the all –
The Word was with God – is an expression of distance
How do you measure distance – the time it takes to get from point A to point B
How do you measure Time = the distance between from point A to point B
Even science validates this even in the crudest model of the Big Band the first step in creation = expansion
Sacred Geometry says – the Visa Pica – one singularity touching the other - seperation
God is the Provider sustainer – on an omnipresent scale – ubiquitous – everywhereAt the sub-atomic level – there is the sustainer – that empowers / powers the all
All matter is built upon this sub-atomic scale - spirit
God is a singularity – locality -
beyond our comprehensionHis Spirit (Ruwach) is omnipresent in all things on the sub-atomic scale
For man and the angels – She is also available for communion / interaction – spirit to spirit
Just as man = soul, spirit, and Body
God = spirit (HS) and Body (CHRIST)The Gospel of Philip - The Nag Hammadi LibraryThe Holy Spirit shepherds everyone and rules all the powers, the "tame" ones and the "wild" ones, as well as those which are unique.if one opposes the creation of a creator, than surely that opposer is opposing the creator of the creation as well?Cain killed Able – therefore Cain opposed Adam and God
Jacob stole Esau’s inheritance – therefore Jacob was opposed to Isaac – Abraham – Adam – and God
If I follower you logic God is responsible for all ra and evil everywhere
You kill me – its satan’s fault therefore both of you oppose – My father – my grandfather , my great great grandfather, my great great great grandfather – etc – till we get to Adam then satan then God
It is all God’s fault – because it is all God’s plan
God created satan – YES – God’s Will – God’s Plan
satan did not create himself – by himself – no second creator
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Job 38:7 ברןH7442 יחד H3162 כוכבי H3556 בקר H1242 ויריעו H7321 כל H3605 בני H1121 אלהים׃H430
My Hebrew text says(bôqer) properly dawn (as the break of day);
generally morning: (kôkâb) – stars
raw-nan' – shouted joyfully
yachad – all together
and bane elohiym – sons of the elohiym - as in Gen 6 - Archon
rûa‛ - figuratively to split the ears (with sound), that is, shout (for alarm or joy): - blow an alarm, cry (alarm, aloud, out), destroy, make a joyful noise, smart, shout (for joy), sound an alarm, triumph.
to shout, raise a sound, cry out, give a blast
(Hiphil)
to shout a war-cry or alarm of battle
to sound a signal for war or march
to shout in triumph (over enemies)
to shout in applause
to shout (with religious impulse)
to cry out in distress
Job 38:7 my attempt at a Hebrew translation
All of the morning stars shouted with praise – the bane elohiym cried in alarmThe Greek LXX is different than the KJV
Job 38:7 οτε εγενηθησαν αστρα ηνεσαν
G3753 - oτε – time adverb – when – indicating immediately
G1096 - εγενηθησαν – they were created / assembled/ became
G798 - αστρα – subject - stars
G134 - ηνεσαν – verb – 3rd person - (they) praised
Immediately upon creation the stars praised
με φωνη μεγαλη παντες αγγελοι μου
G1473 – με – accusative – direct object - me
G5456 - φωνη – noun dative case – indirect object of a preposition – speak or shout
G3173 – μεγαλη – noun – adjective – dative case belong the prepositional phrase – Mega - Giant
G3956 – παντες – Noun – adjective – plural – all of them – everyone – anyone - whoever
G32 – αγγελοι – noun nominative case plural – subject - angels
G1473 – μου – noun - - genitive case – possession – of mine
All of my mega / Giant angels spoke at me / spoke to me / spoke with me
Immediately upon creation the stars praised – all the mega angels spoke/ shouted at meGod speaking here, it says all the morning stars sang for joy over creation, no angels opposed creation at all... but you have twisted these Hebrew words to mean something else?
You do your best to translate the verse – see what you getYou need to learn to translate – then you can explores scripture in greater depth – instead of playing one word-ismAnd yet you also have GOD intentionally creating angels to oppose His Creation? Why would a functional God also be a dysfunctional God?
God called it TOV – God’s Plan – God’s Will – God is absoluteYou call it something else and then become confused God definition is the only definition that mattersThe Jew looks for the tov – looks for God – looks for the hand of God in everything
You only seem to see evil and then deny the absoluteness of God – it must be someone else’s creation
Your theology is so strong, that no evidence will convince you.You are wrong my friend – I have changed my cosmology so much over the last 10 years it is crazy
I beg for someone to show me sometime=ng more real
Any theology that has exceptions to their own rules – is bunkSDA is not correct over here - and Presbyterianism is correct over there - and Judaism is correct only for the Jew
In America we say - 'BS"
My father always told me - 'If you cannot dazzsel them with your brilliance - baffe; then with your BS (Bachelar of Science)'
He would have also called me a Post Hole Digger
There is only one base theology - it was given to the Jews - Christ came to expand that base religion to all the world.
Except - most Christinas today have ZERO in common with the Jew
That one true base religion has been redrafted / rewritten / and Edfited by Rome when they Casnonized your Bible
anything that had the word archon in it was summerialy rerjected - hide the truth
Censured text on Rome's Index include - Paul, Peter, James, Phillip, Thomas, Mary and more and more
PONDER THAT!
My theology was weak as a Sun day Christian – conflicting
Why was it conflicting – because I discovered how Catholic all my views were
Catholic theology is contradictory and smart people have pointed this out for centuries
The Catholic Feel Good – Rom 8:28 Theology of an only Good Loving and Merciful God
Is in conflict with – most of the ahl history
Jewish history – then Catholic history DENY – the Feel Good reality
The Biggest testiment to divisionism and doubt = the Christian Church
The Biggest testement to Judaism - is alive and well on the map today and in the News daily