Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2022 17:17:54 GMT -5
D" Your creation + gradual process + war + the separation of Light and Darkness took less then 24hrs according to you
Just how long of a war was it in heaven?
Answer – over in an instant
R" Dave I don't have the angels choosing to sin within the first and second day of God creating our earth.
So stop mocking my view and understand it.
Earth was already present when GOD came to earth, formless and void, yes, but existed as a lonely rock, with sinning angels walking already on earth.
In my view GOD can created universes more than once, maybe a millions times already, all over the infinity of space.
D"All it took was one choice by Eve and sin was created
R" Human sin, yes happened rapidly because a sinning agent speeded up the process of changing function in relationship with God. Look says the opposing elohiym shedim, I am sinning and nothing bad happens to me... so the sinning agent was persuasive.
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the serpent; for the serpent sinneth from the beginning.
John says the serpent sinned first.
D"That serpent did not lie – did not sin – all it did was temp and deceive
R" Well well, who did the sinning than before Eve?
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the serpent; for the serpent sinneth from the beginning.
John says the serpent sinned first.
You ignore this Scripture too?
You ignore Ezekkiel 28 too?
D"The archon of Gen 6 – are the sinning angels of 2 Pet 2:4 and Jude 1:6
R" explain to me how an archon can be an angel?
SO you are saying the archons are sinning angels now are you Dave?
D"The Archon were created on Day 1 – appeared along with physical creation
Only 200 of them – or so – are the archon of Gen 6 – are the sinning angels of 2 Pet 2:4 and Jude 1:6
R" Talk about years of confusion with Dave. So GOD created angels on Day 1 and 200 angels sinned, becoming archon angels of Gen 6.
Explain why you consider archons as angels?
Now you are saying the same view as I am?
D"YES – we are told that there were many Nephilim – overwhelmed mankind
R" I see GOD waited 400 years for the sinning to be complete before GOD acted.
D"And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.'
R" SO Dave, are they angels now that sinned and chose to sin?
And now you teach archons are a term for angels?
D"There is an ancient measurement call an ell from Sumar – if it is the same
Then Enoch’s giants were 4.8 kilometers tall
R" And this makes sense to you?
D"The gods ate men – prisoners of war – human sacrifices to the gods
R" And this is just tempting humans to sin go forth and multiple, I pity the human being eaten.
So now you have other gods eating humans, now.
D"THE ARCHON SINNED AGAINST THE ENTIRITY – not God
R" I see, the angels sinned only with humans, but not sinned against GOD.
SO touching the human is NOT touching the apple of God's eye.
No matter if an angel sins on a human, and eats a human, not my problem God says?
Really Dave.
D"The archon taught man the art of war
R" You mean the sinning angels taught the humans to art of killing humans.
So the sinning angels taught the humans
D" The archon taught cosmetics and vanity
D" Wizardry – witchcraft – astrology
D" Why is God upset with man – why does God punish man
Why doesn’t your god punish satan – eliminate satan – wipe him out
R" Because the sinning angels sinned first, and hence their punishment comes later.
The sinning humans sinned second, but their punishment for sin comes first.
BUT both sinning creatures end up in the lake of fire.
So now Dave says the serpent was a sinning angel? Also called a sinning archon?
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the serpent; for the serpent sinneth from the beginning.
John says the serpent sinned first.
D"That serpent did not lie – did not sin – all it did was temp and deceive
R" Well well, who did the sinning than before Eve?
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the serpent; for the serpent sinneth from the beginning.
John says the serpent sinned first.
You ignore this Scripture too?
You ignore Ezekkiel 28 too?
Just how long of a war was it in heaven?
Answer – over in an instant
R" Dave I don't have the angels choosing to sin within the first and second day of God creating our earth.
So stop mocking my view and understand it.
Earth was already present when GOD came to earth, formless and void, yes, but existed as a lonely rock, with sinning angels walking already on earth.
In my view GOD can created universes more than once, maybe a millions times already, all over the infinity of space.
D"All it took was one choice by Eve and sin was created
R" Human sin, yes happened rapidly because a sinning agent speeded up the process of changing function in relationship with God. Look says the opposing elohiym shedim, I am sinning and nothing bad happens to me... so the sinning agent was persuasive.
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the serpent; for the serpent sinneth from the beginning.
John says the serpent sinned first.
D"That serpent did not lie – did not sin – all it did was temp and deceive
R" Well well, who did the sinning than before Eve?
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the serpent; for the serpent sinneth from the beginning.
John says the serpent sinned first.
You ignore this Scripture too?
You ignore Ezekkiel 28 too?
D"The archon of Gen 6 – are the sinning angels of 2 Pet 2:4 and Jude 1:6
R" explain to me how an archon can be an angel?
SO you are saying the archons are sinning angels now are you Dave?
D"The Archon were created on Day 1 – appeared along with physical creation
Only 200 of them – or so – are the archon of Gen 6 – are the sinning angels of 2 Pet 2:4 and Jude 1:6
R" Talk about years of confusion with Dave. So GOD created angels on Day 1 and 200 angels sinned, becoming archon angels of Gen 6.
Explain why you consider archons as angels?
Now you are saying the same view as I am?
D"YES – we are told that there were many Nephilim – overwhelmed mankind
R" I see GOD waited 400 years for the sinning to be complete before GOD acted.
D"And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men and beget us children.'
R" SO Dave, are they angels now that sinned and chose to sin?
And now you teach archons are a term for angels?
D"There is an ancient measurement call an ell from Sumar – if it is the same
Then Enoch’s giants were 4.8 kilometers tall
R" And this makes sense to you?
D"The gods ate men – prisoners of war – human sacrifices to the gods
R" And this is just tempting humans to sin go forth and multiple, I pity the human being eaten.
So now you have other gods eating humans, now.
D"THE ARCHON SINNED AGAINST THE ENTIRITY – not God
R" I see, the angels sinned only with humans, but not sinned against GOD.
SO touching the human is NOT touching the apple of God's eye.
No matter if an angel sins on a human, and eats a human, not my problem God says?
Really Dave.
D"The archon taught man the art of war
R" You mean the sinning angels taught the humans to art of killing humans.
So the sinning angels taught the humans
D" The archon taught cosmetics and vanity
D" Wizardry – witchcraft – astrology
D" Why is God upset with man – why does God punish man
Why doesn’t your god punish satan – eliminate satan – wipe him out
R" Because the sinning angels sinned first, and hence their punishment comes later.
The sinning humans sinned second, but their punishment for sin comes first.
BUT both sinning creatures end up in the lake of fire.
So now Dave says the serpent was a sinning angel? Also called a sinning archon?
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the serpent; for the serpent sinneth from the beginning.
John says the serpent sinned first.
D"That serpent did not lie – did not sin – all it did was temp and deceive
R" Well well, who did the sinning than before Eve?
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the serpent; for the serpent sinneth from the beginning.
John says the serpent sinned first.
You ignore this Scripture too?
You ignore Ezekkiel 28 too?