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Post by Dave on Oct 11, 2019 10:44:59 GMT -5
All Christianity preaches that Jesus brought us a New Covenant
To most this mean freedom from the Law of Moses and modern churches do everything they can do to disrespect that Law.
For me - the New Covenant is Pentecost, after that the Holy Spirit guides us from within.
I think of the Law this way: When I was 16 I drove the speed limit - because it was the law. I could not afford the fine - or- the wrath of my father Now that I am in my 60s with children in the car - I drive the speed limit - because I respect it. 38 years of working ER has taught me full well the consequences of not following the speed law I choose to follow the law now - I do it automatically
The Law of Moses is exactly the same - it started as a helpful guide to a godly living. The new Jew Convert must have a booklet with him to remind him of all the laws A seasoned Jew lives the law - automatically - because he respects the Law
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Post by Dave on Oct 11, 2019 10:57:13 GMT -5
PORK and PORK PRODUCTS
Mar 7:18 (ASV) And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Perceive ye not, that whatsoever from without goeth into the man, it cannot defile him; 19 because it goeth not into his heart, but into his belly, and goeth out into the draught? This he said, making all meats clean.
Many Christians will tell you that pig is OK. Maybe back in Moses's day pigs were so full of parasites that eating them was physically dangerous. Today, Christians everywhere cozy up to their Easter ham dinner and cook everything with bacon.
I have stopped eating all pork products
Whats wrong with pigs? The pig was the ceremonial sacrificial animal to Tammuz.
Because Israel failed to kill all the Rephiem: Jdg 2:1 And the angel of Jehovah came up from Gilgal to Bochim. And he said, I made you to go up out of Egypt, and have brought you unto the land which I sware unto your fathers; and I said, I will never break my covenant with you: 2 and ye shall make no covenant with the inhabitants of this land; ye shall break down their altars. But ye have not hearkened unto my voice: why have ye done this? 3 Wherefore I also said, I will not drive them out from before you; but they shall be as thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare unto you.
The Abomination of Ezekiel 8 - pigs being sacrificed to Tammuz in the Temple Women weeping for Tammuz 40 days (lent) in the Temple
During the Maccabees - again pigs were being sacrificed in the Temple
This is why you hand should be cut off for touching the skin of a pig - to prevent you making a sacrifice to a false 'other god'
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Post by Dave on Oct 11, 2019 11:06:02 GMT -5
Pigs and other Scavengers
Mar 7:18 (ASV) And he saith unto them, Are ye so without understanding also? Perceive ye not, that whatsoever from without goeth into the man, it cannot defile him; 19 because it goeth not into his heart, but into his belly, and goeth out into the draught? This he said, making all meats clean.
If you look at he list of unclean animals you will see that all scavengers are on the list. Pigs, Opossums, Vultures, Eagles, crawfish, clams, lobsters, etc
Today, the aboslute biggest asult on our food supply is - bio-accumulation and bio-concentration of Nuclear Hot Particles (NHPs) and other pollutants.
2016 the EPA did a NHP study in and around Houston Texas after a Fukashima release. How did they do it? - They measured the mussels and clams off the coast, because all contaminates wash downstream and concentrate in the scavengers first.
As more and more of our bio-diversity dies out from man-made pollution - the scavengers are the first to bio-accumulate and then bio-concentrate.
Why no fish without scales - because they are either sentient (dolphins) or scavengers (sharks)
The Law of Moses is very respectable indeed! I respect the Law - and I find myself following the Law without even trying
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2019 13:56:13 GMT -5
Nice thread Dave, tell me more about this NHP study ?
This is one of the reasons why I am vegetarian.. All animals, including the clean animals concentrate toxic chemicals more than plants do, hence eating plant based foods is healthier for you. Especially if you grow your own.
The law in Eden said originally fruits was food for you.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Dec 23, 2019 3:42:30 GMT -5
You should read this book - Chernobyl: Consequences of the Catastrophe for People and the EnvironmentAuthor Alexey V. Yablokov, Vassily B. Nesterenko, and Alexey V. NesterenkoRead more: ponderingconfusion.proboards.com/thread/296/chernobyl#ixzz68unYWUjbAs simple as possible – I am so anti-nuclear its crazy Let’s say an atomic bomb explodes – radioactive particles are scattered everywhere – the dust ejected into the air is radioactive – some of these particles fall back to earth (because they are large and heavy) However – many smaller particles remain in the air for years – orbiting the globe several times 2011, 2013, 2015 – largest concentration of Fukushima on the ground in America – Boulder Colorado 2012 – a 28 gram particle was discovered in a sheep pasture in Scotland (small?) The Pacific is irradiated and is continually being irradiated daily by Fukushima Human health risk – (Story by Bill Bugsby, PhD French member of the EU Nuclear Regulatory Commission) The Nuclear industry wants you to believe that radiation is like a fire – the farther away you are the less effect you have. But Bugsby says, if a hot coal, just a small little ember – jumps out of the fire and you inhale it miles away it still causes damage. I worked in the Lab – Pathology report today include new terminology. – ‘ starlets’ What is a starlet? It is a Nuclear Hot Particle (Wiki) A hot particle is a microscopic piece of radioactive material that can become lodged in living tissue and deliver a concentrated dose of radiation to a small areaThese ‘starlets’ are seen on pathology slides from cancers. Never on the periphery, but always within a cluster. As if it was the cause. How do we ingest NHPs? Both Chernobyl and Fukushima released Cesium and Strontium. The heavy metals – uranium and plutonium settle out. BUT Cs and St are a 2+ cation that follows calcium and potassium through the food chain. Right now in Ukraine they are planting turnips to leach the radiation out of the ground. In Belarus they have banned eating wild berries – but everyone still does Let’s talk Pacific – when the contaminated creatures die – they become the staple of the scavengers / bottom feeders – all forbidden animals to eat (crabs, shrimp, lobsters – sharks, rays and ells) On shore as the birds drop dead – who eats them – scavengers What foods could be affected – all of them. We do not buy bell peppers here – all of them are about 350 msrv (background 23msvrs) – Fish from the Pacific at the Asian store measured 1000 msrvs There are warning on Tuna – nuts from California – Northwest Pacific Salmon How can you protect yourself from them – less commercial is best – but NHPs are everywhereAnd the issue is – they continue to grow and grow in number – Fukushima will take 40 years to begin its clean up (Check the data yourself) – The next generation of humanity is going to be sick beyond reason Famine / Pestilence
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 13:58:18 GMT -5
Scary stuff Dave, tell me more, is there any evidence of this stuff in our foods like ordinary vegetables?
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Dec 27, 2019 15:04:38 GMT -5
1- The Knowledge and Awareness for Radiocesium Food Monitoring after the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Accident in Nihonmatsu City, Fukushima Prefecturewww.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6210092/General knowledge on radioactivity in foods has been garnered from previous nuclear accidents, such as the 1986 Chernobyl disaster. High internal levels of 137Cs, which are indicative of radiation poisoning, can occur through ingestion of contaminated foods and can increase cancer risk [5]. Physical effects from radiation exposure were issues in past radiation accidents such as Chernobyl, including psychological and social effects like clinical depression and anxiety disorders [6]. Following the Chernobyl disaster, humans and domestic animals close to the nuclear plant were diagnosed with high internal radiation exposure resulting from ingestion of crops grown in radiocesium-contaminated soil [7]. Even 30 years after the disaster, wild mushrooms from Chernobyl still contained a high concentration of radiocesium, reflecting long-term environmental damage [8]. 2- Japan’s Food Chain Threat Multiplies as Radiation Spreadswww.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-07-24/threat-to-japanese-food-chain-multiplies-as-cesium-contamination-spreadsRadiation fallout from the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant poses a growing threat to Japan’s food chain as unsafe levels of cesium found in beef on supermarket shelves were also detected in more vegetables and the ocean. More than 2,600 cattle have been contaminated, Kyodo News reported July 23, after the Miyagi local government said 1,183 cattle at 58 farms were fed hay containing radioactive cesium before being shipped to meat markets. 3- South Korea to use radiation detectors, food from home at Tokyo Gameswww.reuters.com/article/us-olympics-2020-radiation-southkorea/south-korea-to-use-radiation-detectors-food-from-home-at-tokyo-games-idUSKBN1Y80SQSEOUL (Reuters) - South Korea’s Olympic committee plans to buy radiation detectors and ship homegrown ingredients to Japan for its athletes at the Tokyo Games because of worries local food may be contaminated by the 2011 Fukushima nuclear disaster. 4- Radioactive food from Fukushima will be heading to UK under EU planswww.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/26/radioactive-food-fukushima-will-heading-uk-eu-plans/Radioactive food grown near the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant in Japan will be sold to British shoppers next month under controversial EU plans. Controls over radioactivity levels in produce from Japan following the 2011 disaster are to be lifted by Brussels as part of the world’s biggest ever trade deal. 5- U.S. to Aid Japanese, Push Deal on Koreawww.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704613504576268431769391772TOKYO—U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton met with senior Japanese leaders Sunday to express sympathy with Japan's people and support for its economy after last month's earthquake and tsunami. Earlier, she reiterated the Obama administration's support for a free-trade deal with South Korea in meetings with officials in Seoul. 6- Revisiting the Regulation of Radiation in Food After Fukushimawww.jurist.org/commentary/2012/03/volha-samasiuk-fda-radiation/Food can be contaminated directly when exposed to radiation, for example, radioactive materials can deposit on the surface of fruits and vegetables. Moreover, when radioactive materials are transferred through soil and water into plants or animals, radioactivity can build up within our food. It is worth noting that radionuclides cannot contaminate packaged food, meaning that as long as the food is sealed it is protected from radioactivity. The effect of ingesting contaminated food depends on the type and amount of radionuclides in the food product. Iodine-131 and cesium-137 are considered to be the main contaminants with half-lives of eight days and 30 years respectively. The World Health Organization states that radioactive iodine accumulates in the thyroid gland and increases the risk of thyroid cancer, particularly in children. Radioactive cesium can also lead to an increased risk of cancer. 7- Post Fukushima: US EPA approves vastly higher radiation limits in drinking waterwww.emfacts.com/2016/07/post-fukushima-us-epa-approves-vastly-higher-radiation-limits-in-drinking-water/My comments1 and 2 – there is no doubt of the contamination effect within the Human Global Food supply chain 3- Governments know this 4 and 5 – why would Europe and Hillary Clinton agree to buy Fukushima rice – to support the Japanese economy. Hillary Clinton approved the method of diluting radioactive rice with normal rice until it passes radioactive limits. This does nothing to remove the threat – it just spreads it wide and far 6 and 7 – After Chernobyl – radiation limits were raised all across Scandinavia, Russia, and Europe What was once considered lethal limits are now safe to sell on the open market Why – to keep the Global economy from crashingFukushima – is releasing a Hiroshima sized radiation plume into the Pacific Ocean daily – estimates are 40 years before they can even understand how to start the cleanup – Chernobyl is not over In Europe the phrase is – Chernobyl is the next Chernobyl Population Control – and governmentsWhen Fukushima happened Tokoyo and Northern Japan should have been evacuated 2 days later – Western America should have been evacuated How can a government do that? – They cannot! All sea food from the Pacific should be questioned – but that feeds ¼ of the planet Post Chernobyl – Russia should have destroyed 80% of its food supply for three years – how does a country – a government do that – without collapsing True story – Mad Cow disease was discovered in England – OMG – their Beef Exports crashed Mad Cow disease was discovered in a herd in Canada – OMG – their Beef Exports crashed Mad Cow was discovered in America, Washington State – OMG – 27 countries immediately stopped Beef Imports from America Story over – no more news about Mad Cow – it is forgotten Why to prevent the total destruction of the Beef Industry Today it is called by its correct name – Krutchfield Jacobs Disease – and is still found in beef, humans post mortem autopsies, and now Colorado Deer and Elk FYI – every patient with Krutchfield Jacob’s Disease (found in autopsy – about 400 in America every year) also was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s Disease – mental confusion, inability to stand erect South China Sea – What is the real issueThe South China Sea is the only fishing waters for 5 major countries – China the biggest Water flow in the South China Sea is from the Indian Ocean toward Tiawan Non-radioactive waters from the Indian Ocean flowing toward Tiawan where it empties into the Pacific My family has connections in the Philippines – Pacific fish = radioactive / but fish from the Sea of Sulu or South China Sea is not The future Bio-accumulation and Bio-concentration are terms you need to google The scientist / author / TV personality Mikahl Kaku says – we all have a piece of Chernobyl within us How – scavangers / plankton / insects are eaten but larger animal – then bigger fish (animals) – then big fish – man is at the top of that FOOD CHAIN This doesn’t just happen in animals – it happens it all biology that uses Calcium and Potassium The cows eat the grasses – we eat the wheat / rice / vegetables – etc – We are at the top of the FOOD CHAINWhy the Nuclear Industry gets away with it Google death from Chernobyl = less than 400 – maybe 4000 Google deaths from Fukushima = ZERO How can they say this – because effects that happen years later – cancers – could have been caused by anything – cannot prove direct correlation Why is it wrong to think we can be safe Read this page - pleasewww.enviroreporter.com/2012/08/no-place-to-hide-fukushima-fallout-findings-widespread/all/1/No Place to Hide – Fukushima fallout findings widespread
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2019 16:24:56 GMT -5
Wow scary, will read all links, and get back to you... Thanks for the share
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2021 13:13:39 GMT -5
Read this page - please www.enviroreporter.com/2012/08/no-place-to-hide-fukushima-fallout-findings-widespread/all/1/No Place to Hide – Fukushima fallout findings widespread What a scary article to read. What can we do about all this? CS-137 is everywhere and spoiling our health. The chemical pollution from planes flying over over farm is a worry, aviation gas has 2000 chemicals in it, including toxic ones my wife cannot breathe. Any ideas on what to do Dave? There is no place safe to hide and live anymore? Shalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 16, 2021 10:29:45 GMT -5
No Place to Hide – Fukushima fallout findings widespread What a scary article to read. What can we do about all this? There is no place safe to hide and live anymore?I am so pleased that you read this – I am such a huge advocateWhat are we to do Answer – we are to recognize what is in our sight In any closed ecosystem – there are 4 stages of life Man / humanity as a whole / population of earth is currently in the decline/death phase Population is soon to retract in a serious way – systems will collapseEven your own Australian study says - 2050 Add the radioactive element to this and – the future is bleak If you survive the upcoming wars / wars – the radioactive fallout will get you later This is why we will change – or things will change1Jn 3:2 Loved ones, now we are God’s children; and it has not yet been revealed what we will be. But we do know that when it’s revealed, we shall be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is. You asked – is the Second Coming physical or spiritual Things will change – either we are transfigured upwardly out of radioactive here Or – INTERESTING PONDER – time –as we know it - stops 2nd Book of EnochLVX:5 "When all creation visible and invisible, as the Lord created it, then every man goes to the great judgment, and then all time shall perish, and the years, and thenceforward there will be neither months or days nor hours, they will be stuck together and will not be counted." If time stops – will radioactivity radiate? Add to this something like WORMWOOD and there goes 1/3 of the watersA Catastrophic Earth change event Don Patton asked over and over – where is the evidence it happed slowly Why are we still waiting for Wormwood – it been a long time since the last Catastrophic Earth change Ask Don Patton – where is the evidence it happens rapidly Ask Don Pastton - what has happened duing this"GAP" between catastrophic events He made great fun of the scientist that speak of gaps in the historical fossil recordWhat are we to do Answer – we are to recognize what is in our sightAnd what do I see – scripture unfolding on the evening News 1948 is BiblicialJesus said give Caesar his due – be not of this worldIt is confusing – should we pray for world peace – scripture says it isn’t going to happen Should we fight against vaccines and porn – or do we just dismiss it as the WORLD we live in As a Christian – all I can do is witness – help the needy and feed the poor As a Christian – I know that the WORLD is not going to change until Christ returns I do not deliberately ingest poison I would not criticize anyone for refusing a vaccine But to actively push Christian Values on others is no different than Shira Law force upon us A Christian Government is a reflection if the Christian Population The population should not be coerced into having Christian values – it only makes religion a state function – just like shira law To be a Christian – has nothing to do with WORLD – only our souljourn through it and our personal relationship with our CreatorAND FUKASHIMA IS NOT OVER - IT IS STILL CONTAMINATING THE PACIFIC AT A CONSTANT RATEJapan says to release Fukushima treated radioactive water ...https://www.nbcnews.com › news › world › japan-says-... 3 days ago — TOKYO — Japan's government decided Tuesday to start releasing treated radioactive water from the wrecked Fukushima nuclear plant into the ... Fukushima: Japan approves releasing wastewater into ocean ...https://www.bbc.com › news › world-asia-56728068 3 days ago — Japan has approved a plan to release more than one million tonnes of contaminated water from the destroyed Fukushima nuclear plant into the sea. The water will be treated and diluted so radiation levels are below those set for drinking water. Japan to Start Releasing Radioactive Water From Fukushima ...https://www.nytimes.com › World › Asia Pacific 4 days ago — The Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Okuma, Japan. The government has decided to release radioactive water from ... Japan to start releasing treated Fukushima water into sea in 2 ...https://www.cnn.com › 2021/04/12 › asia › japan-fukushi... 3 days ago — Tokyo (CNN) Japan will start releasing more than 1 million metric tons of treated radioactive water from its destroyed Fukushima nuclear plant ... Fukushima: Japan announces it will dump contaminated water ...https://www.theguardian.com › environment › apr › fu... 4 days ago — Japan has announced it will release more than 1m tonnes of contaminated water from the wrecked Fukushima nuclear power plant into the sea ... Explainer: The toxic water at Japan's Fukushima nuclear plant ...https://www.aljazeera.com › news › explainer-the-toxic-... 3 days ago — Japan's decision to release more than one million tonnes of treated radioactive water – equivalent to about 500 Olympic-sized swimming pools ... Japan to release contaminated Fukushima water into sea after ...https://www.reuters.com › article › japan-to-release-con... 4 days ago — TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan will release more than 1 million tonnes of contaminated water from the destroyed Fukushima nuclear plant into the ...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 16:02:34 GMT -5
Yeah I hear you, but what can we do personally about it?
Hezekiah was a king who did good and bad things, But one thing he did was to do all the things He could do, than ask GOD to do all the rest.
I was wondering if we made a covering over the food building, purchase crushed rock for fertilizer and thus avoid fallout falling into the soil under the building, that way we avoid pollution.
Have you heard of orgone energy research by Wilhelm Reich? One could purchase an ion meter and measure the life force in foods, thus select the most healthy ones to eat.
To me the bottom line is we have to avoid all manufactured shop food, and grow our own.
DO you have a torah command to eat as healthy as I see the torah teaching of GOD?
1Co 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God.
To me if the Father is perfect, everything we do spiritually and biologically to ourselves must also be perfect, no ra anywhere.
Happy Shabbat Shalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 17, 2021 6:56:21 GMT -5
Yeah I hear you, but what can we do personally about it?
Christendom’s approach = Pray for World Peace But – is this not praying that scripture fails?
Scripture says – hard time ahead – war – divisions – famines and pestilences Is there absolutory anything a single Christian – or a zillion Christians can do to change this – NO
Confession – I am a Felon – I have been convicted of a Federal Crime – and I did time in jail 1982 Amarillo Texas – pro-life protest outside a Planned Parenthood Office I was just part of the crowd – and as the crowd grew – some of us went across the street As the crowd grew – we were blocking the sidewalk so we stepped back into the lawn of the building behind us - a U.S Post Office Did you know that a Post Office is federal property? About 30 of us were arrested and spent the weekend in jail Monday morning we go to arraignment – charge = Federal Trespassing All of us were found guilty and given time served I didn’t even know it was a felony until 1992 when applying for my first Lab job
Did I – or any of us change a thing – NO But we were heard – the movement made the news And as a Christian – isn’t that all we ca do – be heard – witness
Was I CALLED by the spirit to be there No – I happened to be there and thought I was COOL
Richard and I have had long discussions about our role in the community As Christians – should we actively struggle against the tide of state Or do we just give Caesar his due – and be not of this world
This is one reason why Richard teaches against specific prayers Sure it is OK to ask that grandma live forever – but it is God’s Will that is important not ours If it is His Will – I will get a new car if I ask for it or not – His Will not my wants
Mathew 6 – Jesus says #1 – whatever you do DON’T STAND UP FRONT AND BABBEL ON Every Christian church I have been in engages in Corporate prayers #2 thing Jesus says – is don’t be asking for stuff – we only know what we want – God already knows what we need Every Christian church usually takes prayer request – then does a corporate prayer #3 thing Jesus says – it isn’t what you do publically – it is the private time you spend with God that is important #4 thing Jesus says – may God’s Will be done
Yeah I hear you, but what can we do personally about it? My calling – is not to be active in the world anymore – all I can do is witness Can I hide from the coming wrath of God – No All I can do is hope that wrath is not directed at me or my family (the charge of a father) What is my calling – Jer 1:5 to witness – to you – to all – to anyone – to everyone With my life and my words
Others will argue – we are charged to be Christian soldiers in a war against evil To them Richard and I agree – we are all called differently Rich uses the phrase – it takes a Muslim, a Christian, and a Jew to make the world go round All of it God’s Will – God’s Plan –
Peter said to Jesus – don’t go to Jerusalem and die – Jesus called him a satan Peter only knows what he wants – God knows what we need Peter should have said – if it is God Will please don't go – Jesus could have then said – but it is God’s Will
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2021 16:25:57 GMT -5
Mt 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Please comment on this context of this passage
Get thee <hupago> behind <opiso> me <mou>, Satan <Satanas>: thou <ei> art <hoti> an offence <skandalon> unto me <mou>:
Jesus asks some being called Opposer to get behind and stop being an offence to Jesus.
You have assumed Peter is functioning as an opposer, yes maybe he was, as he listened to the opposer's suggestions.
You are Greek translator, explain how you negate a being termed an opposer here. Rather you assume the only opposer here is Peter.
Would this Greek term Satanas, which is a Hebrew term as I understand, not a word in Greek, be the same term as in Job, the Hey-satan ? meaning H7854, "Behold the Being, the prickles cover over the nations"
The meaning of each Ancient Hebrew letter is interesting.
The hey, is a person, behold, used as a prefix. The samach, is a thorn, the prickles often a simile of sin. The tet, is a basket, the covering often over good things. The nun, is a seed, the continuing over the nations.
The way these four letters are grouped as hey-satan, means the personal opposer as a being, uses sin as a covering over the nations.
The prickles are used to turn the sinner from God. Hence in this regard the being promoting the sinning of man is in fact opposing God's work of salvation.
You have often said the archons help keep man distracted from obeying God. Is this function really opposing the process of salvation, a process designed to save sinners?
I don't get how you can have both processes coming from the will of the Lord?
Surely if I tempt humans to sin all the time, I am really opposing the process of salvation in mankind, ain't I ?
Mt 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Peter cannot offend Jesus so much as to cause Jesus to cast Peter into the fires of hell?
Nor did Jesus gather Peter for the purpose of getting rid of Peter, as this word offend means? so something is wrong with your view Dave.
I read the devil is gathered and cast into the fires of hell, so this being offends and is gathered by Jesus. So the being behind Peter must have been the opposer, the one who offends Jesus, and Jesus gathers these ones for the fires of hell, to get rid of them.
Re 2:13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth. 14 But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication. 15 So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
Notice this passage also from the word "offend" . 'Even whole churches follow Satan, with doctrines that offend or oppose Jesus. '
D" Peter should have said – if it is God Will please don't go – Jesus could have then said – but it is God’s Will
R Hmm? The olah offering is voluntary, to lay down one's life for his friends. God reads the future as well as the past. He knows the plans of the one who offends and opposes GOD.
Jesus knew he would be tortured and crucified instead a olah free will offering. This is the work of one who opposes Jesus and offends Jesus, and his process of saving sinners.
SHalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 18, 2021 6:30:44 GMT -5
Mt 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Please comment on this context of this passage Jesus asks some being called Opposer to get behind and stop being an offence to Jesus. You have assumed Peter is functioning as an opposer, yes maybe he was, as he listened to the opposer's suggestions.
If Peter was listening to your satan / ruled by your satan – then your satan did not want Jesus to go to be harmed I thought your satan is not God’s friend I thought your satan hates God and opposes God and wanted to kill Jesus If Peter was really just speaking for your satan – he should of said – Good lets hurry so you can die
Sometimes a verb is just a verb - regardless if you worship the noun or not
You have often said the archons help keep man distracted from obeying God. Is this function really opposing the process of salvation, a process designed to save sinners? I don't get how you can have both processes coming from the will of the Lord?
God uses – frogs, lice, disease, gnats, weather, angels of death, angels in general, and archon - to cause ra upon man You ask – how could God create those creatures as well as man.
Mt 13:41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Your God is love only and can only do tov Buy your God can do this – why isn’t this ra and murder OH – I know – your are a Christian and you have the authority to judge – so you say THEY DESIRVE IT
God is not 1/2 a God - He creates the tov and the ra He uses the tov and the ra at His Will
Notice this passage also from the word "offend" . 'Even whole churches follow Satan, with doctrines that offend or oppose Jesus. ' Churches that preach Jesus Christ cannot be God – there is no such thing as spirit – it is all about biology – the only goal is the grave
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 17:26:48 GMT -5
D"If Peter was listening to your satan / ruled by your satan – then your satan did not want Jesus to go to be harmed I thought your satan is not God’s friend I thought your satan hates God and opposes God and wanted to kill Jesus If Peter was really just speaking for your satan – he should of said – Good lets hurry so you can die
R " you have not read the law on what happens if a Being does mischief to the compassion centre of the HS who is the agency for living:
Ex 21:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
This means the one who does mischief must eternally die.
So Satan who caused mischief by tempting Adam and Eve to sin, has caused his own non-existence. The sinner who sins, also has a sentence of eternal death too.
Jesus came to pay the penalty for sinners, and Satan did not want this to happen. If Jesus died for sin-offering, this mean the end of Satan, who must offer his life for mischief. This is pictured in the scapegoat we discussed before remember?
D" 42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Your God is love only and can only do tov Buy your God can do this – why isn’t this ra and murder?
R : God is a source of living. Any creature that sins is punished with eternal non-existence.
Ro 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. (KJV)
If you seek no sin bearer for sin-offering, than you must be the sin-bearer for your sins, and since you have no living in you, offering up your living for missing, causes you to become non-existent.
This is not a work of ra nor of murder. It is the result of the law for missing. God is simply doing what His laws are required to do.
D" Churches that preach Jesus Christ cannot be God – there is no such thing as spirit – it is all about biology – the only goal is the grave R Again you write cryptic words to mock.
Jesus is divine and of elohiym power, He is also of the uncaused cause from eternity.
The spirit refers to the medium: A divine flow of power of living into man, administrated by the HS that allows the flow of living from the Father. I do not deny the term "spirit".
Mankind is made of biology and thus matter, adamah. God is not made of these things. If you wish to discuss theology, let's discuss it.
I posted this " Please comment on this context of this passage Jesus asks some being called Opposer to get behind and stop being an offence to Jesus. You have assumed Peter is functioning as an opposer, yes maybe he was, as he listened to the opposer's suggestions But you ignore my request for your discussion?
Lu 22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat:
Additional verses such as these show Satan is a evil RA influence opposing the salvation process in man, an acuser of man (you agree to) , thus prevents mankind from being saved, hence opposes the salvation process God offers to man.
Satan did not want Peter to be saved.
In fact Satan does not want any human to be saved.
Have you ever considered this? A prosecutor does not go around helping you do the crimes he will later prosecute you for. SHalom
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