Zeta Talk

[Dillon]

I want to know what you guys think of Nancy Lieder.

She says she receives messages from the aliens of Zeta Reticuli. Her website says she is amazingly accurate and some of her youtube videos are really interesting. Although, I wish she would ask them more about our future. I have listened to her for 2 or 3 years now and cannot decide if she is worth listening to.

[Dave]

Zeta Talk has a long term following, but I think that some of her predictions are not quite as amazing as she lets on.

If you go to her web-site and follow her blogs about Nibiru, you will see that she was at the forefront of the planet Nibiru returning to Earth. Back in 2002 or 2003 the aliens told her exactly where to focus telescopes to first glimpse Nibiru. At exactly the right place and time the telescopes all found something exactly where she told them to look.

However, this turned out to be Comet ISON, which has come and gone.

Here blogs about Nibiru are active as hell from 2000 to 2009 - then they stop

She made even more predictions about Nibiru after 2009, but failed to add them to her Nibiru blog page - curious.

In October of 2012, she gave the last interview before the end of the world. But as since - nothing has happened.

Some interesting ideas about her aliens

There are thousands of types visiting us
The Annanuki have officially left our planet
The aliens that cause all the crop circles are actually water creatures. Their space craft are filled with water and operate like a flying fish tank.
The end message of the Zeta Reticuli - the world is about to be totally destroyed - be prepared.

Future Earth predictions

90 degree pole shift - happening catastrophically. >9.0 Earthquakes all over the planet.

Sea level rise of 675 feet

lose of life = massive

My opinion

Is she receiving messages from the outside - most likely

Are those messages from the Zeta Reticuli - possibly

Why I continue to doubt her message - the Zeta Reticuli are here to help us, she says. They are here to warn us of our impending doom. The message is for us to stop making war, embrace GREEN Earth attitudes, and get along in harmony. That is a good message. Cannot fault that message in any way. But, yet that give it only to her.

If they really want us to HEAR the message. I mean really get it. They would land in public view and tell all of us. Land at the UN, land in a major city. Tell thousands of us, millions of us, tell the governments, but instead they just tell Nancy Lieder. This is why I doubt her message.

[Richard]

I saw this at rationalwiki.org/wiki/ZetaTalk


Though she had some encounters with aliens as a young girl, Nancy first became aware of her status as a "contactee" in 1993, when the Zetas started talking to her through an implant in her brain. At first she was unsure about the reality of the situation, so she asked the Zetas for a sign to prove that they were on the level. Soon afterwards, while at the movies, she opened a package of individually wrapped Starburst candies and discovered that one was in fact unwrapped. The Zetas' awesome power proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, Nancy promptly moved to Wisconsin to start ZetaTalk, and began accumulating followers to help her debate with real astronomers on the sci.astro Usenet group. Watchers of the crank world started taking notice, and her profile increased over the next few years with appearances on Jeff Rense's radio show and Coast to Coast AM, in which she pointed to Earth changes as evidence for the impending disaster.

Eventually Nancy announced that Nibiru would pass by Earth in May of 2003, causing all sorts of problems for the unsuspecting human race, including the fabled pole shift. In the early 2000s, she started doing "Live Chat" sessions on the Godlike Productions conspiracy forums, where people would ask the Zetas questions and she would respond for them. She advised people on how to prepare for the shift - stockpile canned food, build underground shelters, and kill all of your pets. Followers posted shots of lights in the night sky, insisting that Nibiru was becoming visible to the naked eye. Nancy's star rose high enough that even Phil Plait took notice, devoting a debunking page on the still-young Bad Astronomy site to the utter ridiculousness of the Nibiru / Planet X myth.

When May 2003 came and went without any sign of catastrophe, Nancy declared that the prophecy was a "White Lie" told by the Zetas to throw off Them. If she gave a real date for the arrival of Planet X, They would declare martial law and confine everyone to large cities so that the majority of the population would die in the pole shift. Her masterstroke complete, Ms. Lieder declared that Planet X had in fact arrived in the inner Solar System, though it was currently sitting motionless behind the Sun. When asked why it was not visible at any time of the year, she declared that Earth had been stopped dead in its orbit by Nibiru's gravitational pull and was similarly sitting motionless in space. When asked why different constellations were visible throughout the year, she waffled a bit and said something about the earth wobbling on its axis. Mystery solved!



While ZetaTalk lost most of its followers after the failed prediction of 2003, white lie excuse notwithstanding, a small core of adherents remains thanks to cognitive dissonance. Nancy maintains that the pole shift will happen Any Day Now, and certainly sometime before 2012 (the 2012 apocalypse is a disinfo campaign orchestrated by Them so that people will be unprepared for the much earlier arrival of Nibiru).

She continued to host weekly Live ZetaChat sessions on Godlike Productions and responded to just about anything that isn't an obvious troll. In May 2010, she announced[3] that she was moving the chat to a new Earth Changes Ning (address listed below) which was set up by former enthusiastic supporter Gerard Zwaan, who resurfaced recently after a few years absence from the scene. Posting regulations are much stricter at the Ning, where no dissent or arguing is allowed and results in an immediate ban and deletion of all posts by that poster. Although Nancy had Moderator powers at GLP, she would ban debunking posters only on her thread and only during the time of her chat, after which her thread would be opened to the debunkers.

“”1. No debunking and disruption. Debunking and disruption will lead to a ban. If you do intend to embrace any main establishment lies you will be suspended without any explanation.
—First rule of the Earth Changes and Pole Shift website

[Dillon]

The things is this. She sure sounds real. She knows a lot of accurate vocabulary for just a common person. She talks about fault lines that no one ever heard of. Astronomical vocabulary that was right on. She predicted where telescopes would find Nibiru and they all found something.

Looks ledgit

[Dave]

LOOKS LEGIT


This is the whole point isn't it.


You can read what I have to say about the Islamic Jinn and the Gnostic Archon
Each set of scripture says, the demons present themselves to fortune tellers and the like as spirits. They tell you enough truth so they look legit, but most of what they say is a lie.

Sure voices told Nancy Lieder where to point the telescopes - and there was Comet ISON
Although the scientific community watched as Comet ISON missed us by a wide margin. Then we watched as the Comet broke up as it swung around the sun. And this was in 2013. But her prediction said 2003 - Opps.

Is Nancy Lieder receiving messages from space aliens

I believe she is - although the origin of the message comes from demonic forces that want us all to believe in little green men instead of Demonic Agents.

It only takes one

Spiritual forces do not have to continually make themselves known. Something appeared to David Ike once and it changed him forever. Christ appeared to Paul once and it changed him forever. God spoke to Moses and it changed him forever. So if demonic forces make themselves known to one one person - that person is changed forever.

How many people follow David Ike? Millions
How many people follow the teaching of Paul - Billions
How many people follow the teaching of Moses - 10s of Billions

Something spoke to Nancy Lieder and she has/had a large following

Does this fact validate aliens and UFOs - or - does it just validate spiritual warfare?