Matthew 19:17

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Why do you suppose Jesus aka Son of God would not accept being called Good?

[Dave]

Matthew 19:17 (KJV) And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God:

I don't have my Greek notes with me, but my gut response is that at the time of Jesus saying this - HE was a man - spirit trapped within an animal, An animal that is a part of creation which is the corruption and 1/2 of our individual struggle in the Great Contest.

In a second thought - consider this (not well used passage by Romanology) -

Matthew 10:21 And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: ... 34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

What do you make of this passage?

[Dave]

Matthew 19:17
www.biblestudytools.com/commentaries/gills-exposition-of-the-bible/matthew-19-17.html

why callest thou me good?
not that he denied that he was so; for he was good, both as God and man, in his divine and human natures; in all his offices, and the execution of them; he was goodness itself, and did good, and nothing else but good. But the reason of the question is, because this young man considered him only as a mere man, and gave him this character as such; and which, in comparison of God, the fountain of all goodness, agrees with no mere man: wherefore our Lord's view is, by his own language; and from his own words, to instruct him in the knowledge of his proper deity. Some copies read, "why dost thou ask me concerning good"*.

I don't know who the editorial staff is over at Bible Tools, but are they a bunch of FEEL GOOD preachers - or what. For he was good, ate good, smelled good, dressed good, looked good, walked good, and its good that he's good because its good.

If you edit out 1/2 of the story, just loo at the amount of double speak you have to engage in to convey the GOOD ONLY side of the story.

Not that it is incorrect, or that I disagree with any point - it just isn't a well rounded and balanced comment. Take away the psychological double speak and isn't it just easier to say:

John 3:6 (KJV) That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Flesh isn't getting in! Nothing corporeal means diddly once our spirit is set free!

1 John 2:15 (KJV) Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh and the lust of the eyes and the vain glory of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Now Ponder

1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we children of God, and it is not yet made manifest what we shall be. We know that, if he shall be manifested, we shall be like him; for we shall see him even as he is.

is not yet made manifest what we shall be. - (evidently, we will not be as we are now)
we shall be like him - for we shall see him even as he is. -

Remember the multidemensionalist here - but when I read these words I can not stop thinking of

Luke 9:28 And it came to pass about an eight days after these sayings, he took Peter and John and James, and went up into a mountain to pray. 29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering. 30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias: 31 Who appeared in glory, ...

2 Peter 1:16 For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

Conclusion:

Again, as always, it depends what you mean by "good," but nothing corporeal is good enough to get in.

On a second note - when we finally meet Christ, if he looks like an average guy, KEEP LOOKING

*footnote
The Vulgate Latin, and the Ethiopic versions, and Munster's Hebrew Gospel read; "why dost thou ask me concerning good"
The Syriac, Arabic, and Persic versions, read "Why callest thou me good?"

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[Dave]

Good

ἀγαθός agathos,
adjective
Strong’s Number G18
Definition - of good constitution or nature, useful, salutary, good, pleasant, agreeable, joyful, happy, excellent, distinguished, upright, honourable

I like to play word games trying to examine a passage from many angels. Notice that all of the defining terms are a statement of emotional attitude or mental disposition – not – statements of quality or value.

Matthew 19:16 (GNT) Καὶ ἰδοὺ εἶς προσελθὼν εἶπεν αὐτῷ· διδάσκαλε ἀγαθέ, τί ἀγαθὸν ποιήσω ἵνα ἔχω ζωὴν αἰώνιον; 17 ὁ δὲ εἶπεν αὐτῷ· τί με λέγεις ἀγαθόν; οὐδεὶς ἀγαθός εἰ μὴ εἷς ὁ Θεός. εἰ δὲ θέλεις εἰσελθεῖν εἰς τὴν ζωὴν, τήρησον τὰς ἐντολάς.

Matthew (KJV) 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Imagine the possibilities:
Excellent Master - Why callest thou me excellent? there is none excellent but one, God
Admirable Master - Why callest thou me admirable? there is none admirable but one, God
Agreeable Master – Why callest thou me agreeable? there are none agreeable but one, God

Hey, Jesus, ole buddy, ole chum – just how nice and agreeable, pleasant, or distinguished do I really have to be? I mean – like just how ass kissy do I have to be?

… but if thou wilt enter into life …

If we are spiritual creatures having a physical experience, then we could have been counseled before birth … but if thou wilt enter into (physical) life … keep the commandments. Why? Because each time we break one of those 10 simple rules we create our own emotional/spiritual baggage, guilt, and regret that just gets in the way of our spiritual growth (or in the case of this example – maintaining spiritual integrity)

… but if thou wilt enter into (eternal) life … without Christ you better be 100% perfect 100% of the time!

Now there is a contest.

[Richard]

You left off the punch line

Jesus went on to give impossible example of the Rich Man and Camel

Mat 19:25-26 And when the disciples heard it, they were astonished exceedingly, saying, Who then can be saved? And Jesus looking upon them said to them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.

Man can not do it but God can.