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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2022 22:48:04 GMT -5
Why do you not get your answers from Sola Scriptoria, but rather you get your answers from the writings and traditions of men?
BECAUSE – we are not Roman Catholic and do NOT accept the infallibility of the Pope Because – we are students of the word and church history and understand the DEBATE /Conflict over its canonization – by the Roman Catholic Church
Because Judaism – was not limited to the Roman Catholic Old Testament Because Judaism had an entire library of the wisdom of their fathers All of this was the theology and CONTEXT of Jesus Christ and the Gospel
Because your Sola Scriptoria was gathered together / translated / or invented by Erasmus – who is listed on the Roman Index of authors you are never supposed to read
You can call this by derogatory names if you want – it just proves your ignorance
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2022 22:37:17 GMT -5
We must continue practicing the good fight of faith, he says. Otherwise we lose our salvation.Correction Can you lose your salvation - or once saved always saved The answer is NO you cannot lose your salvation – unless you deny Him before another man The Spiritual Christian – gnosis – once you have felt the HS wash over you – you know – you will never forget. Richard’s mother-in-law saw something – a UFO – she gnosis what she saw Dillon posted a video of 300 school children and teachers that saw a UFO in Australia – even 50 years later – those students gnosis what they saw If you gnosis – you cannot forget Psychical Christians – believe – hope it to be true – think it to be true As long as they remain in the faith – continue believing – they will never lose their salvation Material Christian – don’t believe - don’t care Can you lose your salvation If you are a Spiritual Christian that gnosis – you cannot forget If you are a Psychical Christian that is just a believer – then persevere in that belief no matter what comes If you do not persevere – they just how strong was your belief – weak belief = no belief You never believed it as an unchanging fact – but as something you hope to be true You never gnosis it as fact – but believers have a reservation of doubt
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2022 22:31:46 GMT -5
D" R" The verse here is RA Ruwach..... Roberts translation = Evil Holy Spirit You do not present a consistent doctrine R" mock and twist, Roberts translation = dysfunctional mediumD" The word spirit - means spirit - no more or lessR" ruwach means medium, a special medium that is administrated by the Shadday and termed in English as HS, wind and spirit, just to confuse readers. You do NOT present a consistent doctrineD"YES – the female aspect of God = the Left hand – the hand of judgment anf mystery YES – the Right Hand = Christ – instruction and salvation R" DO Jews really have this view, the Shekinah as a female representation of the Father to Israel?jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/6713-glory-of-godSHEKINAH (; lit. "the dwelling"): - (Redirected from GLORY OF GOD.)Nature of the Shekinah. Appearances of the Shekinah. Those on Whom the Shekinah Rested. To Whom Does the Shekinah Appear? The Shekinah as Light. The majestic presence or manifestation of God which has descended to "dwell" among men.
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If you doubt the Jewish Encyclopedia Watch this video from 10:00 min to 14:00 minLeonard Nimoy does a William Shatner Impression on Hero Complex: The Show - Part 2R" DO Jews really have this view, And a Christ messiah as a male respresentation of the Father to Israel?DUH – is that an intelligent question or what?Hmm? I would like to ask you a question D"POINT – if it exist – it was created by God for God R" Did your Father create sin? since sin exists?God created the archon – and everything about them – by Him for Him – Col 1:16 Tov – heavenly – near God There is NO ra in heaven – ra is a thing of physical creation – expanding away from God (yester tov) = our soul’s memory of our time with God before birth (yester tov) = our soul’s memory of the Torah – taught to us by God in the womb (yester ra) = self – self-preservation and the survival of the species (yester ra) = go forth be fruitfully and multiply Man = (yester tov) + (yester ra) Man is the only creature that can choose God created man as the creature with the Free Will choice -------------- D" the 10 Commandments were not written for God to follow – R" That's funny..... LOL.... Your Feel Good God of love and mercy kills and murder 99.99% of all humanity according to youD"BUT Christ proved that LIFE LIVES and there is a real and viable after life with God in heaven R" If GOD is living, than what is the point of death?Rom 5:12 So then, just as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, in the same way death spread to all men because all sinned. D"You have no idea of what your saying – you just want to argue words R" OK three clones of myself, how many of me do I have? One or three?Proof you just misrepresent and argue words You have one Father existing in both male and female Correction – I have Only One True God – who is the One True Creator – He is above / beyond / outside of / larger than our physical creation – no man can see the Father – He is beyond our comprehension – beyond our understanding All Jews accept the Holy Spirit – the female aspect of God reaching into our world tending the children being among the people – they call Her the Shekinah. God the father never leaves His throne 24/7 – it is the Spirit of the Lord that is among the people Jewish – duality – God the Father - and the female aspect of God tending the nest – the womb of creation Christ = the physical image of God Jesus Christ = God incarnate – Son of Man + Son of God – (Jesus – man – flesh of biology with yester ra) + (God incarnate – the image of God – Christ) Jewish Duality became Christian Trinity You have one Father existing in both male and female YES – the female aspect of God = the Left hand – the hand of judgment anf mystery YES – the Right Hand = Christ – instruction and salvation R" OK three clones of myself, how many of me do I have? One or three?Look down at your Right Hand - then look at your Left Hand – how many are you? - DUH-------- D"THE REALITY OF THE ARCHON 101 – YES MY TEACHINGR" OK Dave is an archon preacher.Dave is a witness for the Lord – no more – no less I witness to all I see and understand to be true1- The is Only One True God – the Trinity of modality = only 1 2- Christ = God – Jesus Christ = God incarnate 3- Man is a spiritual life form – from God we came – souljourn here to witness – then return to God for judgment 4- God came to earth to walk like a man – to be tempted like a man – to suffer like a man – and to die like a man 5- Jesus was (yester ra – biology) Luk 22:41 …, got on His knees, and began to pray, Luk 22:42 saying, “Father, if You are willing, take this cup from Me; … yet not My will, = SELF-PRESERVATION 6- Christ = (yester tov – spirit) – the image of God = but yours( the Father’s) be done.” 7- Jesus (yester ra – biology) Son of Man died a mortal Death on the Cross 8- Christ (yester tov – spirit / God) was released – poured out – set free – let go to preach in hades to those of the days of Noah 9- The resurrection PROVES – LIFE LIVES Joh 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. D"Paul says – KNOW YOUR ENEMY – the PRINCIPALITIES R" says the archon preacher,Eph 6:10 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in His mighty power. Eph 6:11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you are able to stand against the schemes of the devil. Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the worldly forces of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places. Eph 6:13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you may be able to resist when the times are evil, and after you have done everything, to stand firm. Eph 6:14 Stand firm then! Buckle the belt of truth around your waist, and put on the breastplate of righteousness. Eph 6:15 Strap up your feet in readiness with the Good News of shalom. Eph 6:16 Above all, take up the shield of faith with which you will be able to extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. Eph 6:18 Pray in the Ruach on every occasion, with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, keep alert with perseverance and supplication for all the kedoshim. Eph 6:19 And pray for me when I open my mouth to make known with boldness the mystery of the Good News, Eph 6:20 for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may speak boldly, the way I should. Dave is a witness for the Lord – no more – no less I witness to all I see and understand to be true1- people who hold the Textus Receptus as the only true scripture are - delusional 2- Rom 1:19 + Psa 19:2 says all creation witnesses to the One true Creator 3- Jesus was a Jew – His disciples were Jews – the CONTEXT of Jesus and His Gospel is Jewish Theology 4- Jewish demonology is verified by Jesus Christ as Belzeebul – King Solomon 5- Jewish demonology / theology included Enoch 6- the saga of ancient Israel was always – the 1% vrs the 99% and their other gods D"THE REALITY OF THE ARCHON 101 – YES MY TEACHING WAKE UP – RECOGNISE WHAT IS IN YOUR SIGHT Vaccine conspiracies – government conspiracies – alien conspiracies – UFO conspiracies – the 13 families that rule the world conspiracies – pagan religion conspiracies – Catholic conspiracies + ISLAM IS ALL 100% SCRIPTURAL Reptilian gods of India = 100% scriptural Snake / serpent gods – GLOBALLY = 100% scriptural Even the Cadussa associated with medicine – is all 100% scriptural Ukraine → famine → pestilence → wars upon wars 1948 Israel → prophesy → Islamic Civil War → Abrahamic Accords The end of Bretton-Woods → America’s withdrawal as the policeman → Arab/Israel The end of the STATIONARY PHASE of humanity → Demographic Winter → system collapse Anyone with eyes needs to wake up and see – our reality is 100% scripturalDave is a witness for the Lord – no more – no less I witness to all I see and understand to be trueWEDD + FD-WEDT + Incremental Creation + The Logarithmic Days of CreationScience validating scripture – scripture validating science Why would any Christian oppose this revelation?---------------- I am a faith preacher, all I can about is learning how to have more and more faith powers from Jesus. My website is devoted to this task. my scriptures says to fight the good fight of faith.Against what – myth and legend?One True God = a myth to you Jesus as God incarnate = a myth to you The promise of eternal life = a myth to you The idea of being spiritual = a myth to you The writings of James, John, Paul, Peter, Phillip and Thomas = a myth to you The writings of Enoch or King Solomon = a myth to you WHY DO YOU FIGHT AGAINST JUDEO-CHRISTIANITY?
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2022 20:30:40 GMT -5
D" One punishment for everyone – contradictory to scripture R" Don't you read my earlier posts? Don't you remember what you read about my view, each is rewarded as his works, Scripture says? MORE CONTRODICTION – proportional reward – but not punishment Why do you deny the New testament Why do you deny Jewish theology
D"YES - ABSOLUTELY AGREE – your presentation of the Great Controversy is useless R" Yes I agree the the Great Controversy is useless, Finally you admit – the teaching of Ellen White is errorBingo 38 verses about the Lord being the opposer Obviously your understanding of this word / concept / teachis is error I thought your satan was the opposer You preach such a contradictory doctrine - we know you are not serious R" Look how twisted you have become?You posted 38 verse about the Lord being satan – your definition I thought your satan was the opposer You preach such a contradictory doctrine - we know you are not serious DO you agree the dragon is an opposing power?Opposes man - AgreedD" YES – Absolutely Agree – FINALLY YOU SEE THE LIGHT Obviously the powers of the shedim, the opposing elohiym powers that faced mankindthe serpent being the chief R" how and now you agree I have always taught that the archon oppose manD" Death through chataah, or sin-offering. TOTALLY REJECT YOUR WORD GAME Rob" OK try to render the meaning of chataah in the LXX please for me? We are discussing the New Testament – Roman 5:12 LXX – only one occurrence = Psa 40:6 Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required. We know the word means a sacrifice because of context – not spellingH2401 – חֲטָאָה - chăṭâ'âh - Feminine of H2399; an offence, or a sacrifice for it: G4376 – προσφορά – prosphora - From G4374; presentation; concretely an oblation (bloodless) or sacrifice: - offering (up). G3646 - ὁλοκαύτωμα - holokautōma - From a derivative of a compound of G3650 and a derivative of G2545; a wholly consumed sacrifice (“holocaust”): - (whole) burnt offering. Exo 29:14 and the flesh of the bullock, and his skin, and his dung, thou dost burn with fire at the outside of the camp; it is a sin-offering. H2403 – חַטָּאת - chaṭṭâ'âh - From H2398; an offence (sometimes habitual sinfulness), and its penalty, occasion, sacrifice, Exo 29:14 τὰ δὲ κρέα τοῦ μόσχου καὶ τὸ δέρμα καὶ τὴν κόπρον κατακαύσεις πυρὶ ἔξω τῆς παρεμβολῆς· ἁμαρτίας γάρ ἐστιν. A +B + C you will burn with fire – (ἁμαρτίας γάρ ἐστιν) = for your sin (G266)
Rom 5:12 Διὰ τοῦτο ὥσπερ δι᾿ ἑνὸς ἀνθρώπου ἡ ἁμαρτία εἰς τὸν κόσμον εἰσῆλθεν καὶ διὰ τῆς ἁμαρτίας ὁ θάνατος, καὶ οὕτως εἰς πάντας ἀνθρώπους ὁ θάνατος διῆλθεν, ἐφ᾿ ᾧ πάντες ἥμαρτον· What Greek word does the Hebrew word chataah end up as ? hamartia or hamartano ? Serious enough question, can you help me out?G266 - ἁμαρτία - From G264; sin (properly abstract): - offence, sin (-ful).D"NO ONE IS MAKING A SACRIFICE FOR SIN – one man committed a sin – as all men commit sins R" DOn't you understand what sin-offering means? DOn't Jews understand this term?Correct this is your only defense – the Jews do not understand their own language –culture – or theology But you have great respect for the Jews you sayD"I agree with your statement – the archon usurped the First Century Messianic Christianity was replaced with Roman Catholicism R" I agree with this too we agree on something In fact Roman edit is archon inspired, using your view. D"YET – you promote Roman Catholic doctrine as Gospel R" No I promote the Ezk 28 inspired writings.You have not given me one pre-roman evidence of your Ezk 28 satan doctrine It began with the Catholic church fathers - not before Not all Jews understand their writings.... Correct this is your only defense – the Jews do not understand their own language –culture – or theologySeems like they do not understand chataah, the sin-offering.You refuse to even look at the concept of KORBATS Therefore – you do not understand what you criticize – you just criticize They do not understand amanuah either.I posted a Jewish sermon on the word – why didn’t you correct the sermon – you didn’t even point out one error in the sermon Therefore – you do not understand what you criticize – you just criticizeJewish writings do not explain where the shedim came from,King Solomon said – Belzeebul is the offspring of an ARCH-ANGEL – and then had more offspring Gnostic – all archon – are offspring of the First Archon = Arch-Archon but the Ezekiel 28 explains it.Ezk 28 – is a commentary on Man or EveYou claim I follow Roman Edit. Well you have life after death, and so do the Roman Catholics, they say the spirit of the man never dies and lives in heaven.So does Jewish theology - your teaching is the oppositeI don't support this idea at all.Correct – satan has you convinced – it is all about biology and this world Catholics also have a punishing place for spirits too. Another Roman edit you also follow.So does Jewish theology - your teaching is the oppositeYou also follow the Roman edit trinity too.YES – I DO
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2022 19:13:42 GMT -5
Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, Ro 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man chata entered into the world, ( Otherwise because Adam sinned, I have sinned too?)
Adam is mankind – just a representative of any man – every man As Adam sinned – so do all men sin – BECAUSE all men are sinners
Not a curse upon future generations Not a genetic defect that is carried forward Just evidence that ALL MEN ARE SINNERS
D"NO ONE IS MAKING A SACRIFICE FOR SIN R" Oh so Jesus is not a sin-bearer or a sin-offering for my sinnings? NOT IN ROM 5:12
Heb 2:17 .... to make reconciliation for the sin-offerings of the people.
G266 - ἁμαρτία – hamartia - From G264; sin (properly abstract): - offence, sin (-ful).
Heb 2:17 Therefore He had to be made like His brothers in all things, so He might become a merciful and faithful Kohen Gadol in matters relating to God, to make atonement for the sins of the people.
Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
Heb 2:17 wherefore it did behove him in all things to be made like to the brethren, that he might become a kind and stedfast chief-priest in the things with God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people,
Why do you teach that people had to apologies / atone for making a sacrifice to the lord It is NOT what this verse says
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Post by Dave on Jun 30, 2022 20:18:40 GMT -5
Sorry I use solar scriptoria to define my word meanings chata - means to miss' (verb incomplete action_ chet - also means to miss (noun - completed action) chataah - the sinner makes atonement for the missing unto a sin=bearer, this is essentially a sin-offering for his missing If you use other sources for word meanings Show me your words in the verseRom 5:12 Διὰ τοῦτο ὥσπερ δι᾿ ἑνὸς ἀνθρώπου ἡ ἁμαρτία εἰς τὸν κόσμον εἰσῆλθεν καὶ διὰ τῆς ἁμαρτίας ὁ θάνατος, καὶ οὕτως εἰς πάντας ἀνθρώπους ὁ θάνατος διῆλθεν, ἐφ᾿ ᾧ πάντες ἥμαρτον· youtu.be/76QtS5rGr8cRomans 5:12-21 in Greek: Grammatical HighlightsRom 5:12 So then, just as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, in the same way death spread to all men because all sinned. R" It doesn't say chata entered the world it says chataah entered the world.Death through chataah, or sin-offering.TOTALLY REJECT YOUR WORD GAMEThe word is - G266 - ἁμαρτία – hamartia - From G264; sin (properly abstract): - offence, sin (-ful). Total KJV occurrences: 174 G264 - ἁμαρτάνω - hamartanō - Perhaps from G1 (as a negative particle) and the base of G3313; properly to miss the mark (and so not share in the prize), that is, (figuratively) to err, especially (morally) to sin: - for your faults, offend, sin, trespass. Death through chataah, or sin-offering.TOTALLY REJECT YOUR WORD GAMEjewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13764-sin-offeringThe sin-offering proper is a sacrifice consisting of either a beast or a fowl and offered on the altar to atone for a sin committed unwittingly. NO ONE IS MAKING A SACRIFICE FOR SIN – one man committed a sin – as all men commit sins
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Post by Dave on Jun 30, 2022 19:30:39 GMT -5
D"YES – Jesus the Son of Man breathed his last and died a mortal death YES – Christ – the Son of God was released – poured out – set free – let go – to return to God
When you die, the HS (pneumia) is given up, AND YOU ARE NOT GOD! R" YOu agree than the impatient brevity Dave kicks in and you disagree than? Where is the discussion? The HS = God = Christ = Trinity – YOU ARE NOT A PART Of THE GOD HEAD
D"2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, so that each one may receive what is due for the things he did while in the body—whether good or bad. R" And whom is this for , the righteous or the wicked? What does the verse say – do you have a problem with English?
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit R" The verse here is RA Ruwach..... Roberts translation = Evil Holy Spirit You do not present a consistent doctrine
D" I read it all and quote it back to you – you are inconsistent and contradict yourself R" Where is my writings inconsistent?
Dave:- You serve two Bibles, one you twist and one you twist, OH good name calling Correction – Gnostic = I have many witnesses to the One True God Romans 1:19 + Psa 19:2 = all reality witnesses to the creator All evidence is weighted – Torah – then Major Prophets – then Minor Prophets – the wisdom of our fathers (Jewish ) + the Gospel + the letters of the disciples and apostles + the writings / letters of the disciples and apostles banned by the Roman Index
You have one Father existing in both male and female Correction – I have Only One True God – who is the One True Creator – He is above / beyond / outside of / larger than our physical creation – no man can see the Father – He is beyond our comprehension – beyond our understanding
All Jews accept the Holy Spirit – the female aspect of God reaching into our world tending the children being among the people – they call Her the Shekinah. God the father never leaves His throne 24/7 – it is the Spirit of the Lord that is among the people Jewish – duality – God the Father - and the female aspect of God tending the nest – the womb of creation
Christ = the physical image of God Jesus Christ = God incarnate – Son of Man + Son of God – (Jesus – man – flesh of biology with yester ra) + (God incarnate – the image of God – Christ) Jewish Duality became Christian Trinity
You have one Father existing in both male and female YES – the female aspect of God = the Left hand – the hand of judgment anf mystery YES – the Right Hand = Christ – instruction and salvation
You have a Father on earth praying to a Father in heaven God the Father – NEVER LEAVES HIS THRONE 24/7 Jesus Christ = Man + Christ
You have a Father's left hand creating what the right hand doesn't know 100% a Jewish teaching 100% a teaching by Jesus Christ - Mat 6:3 But when you do tzedakah, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,
You have the Father creating matter like an aborted fetus POINT – if it exist – it was created by God for God - Col 1:16 + John 1:3
Your Father lives with natural RA all the time Have no idea what you mean – you just want to corrupt scripture POINT – if it exist – it was created by God for God - Col 1:16 + John 1:3
Isa 45:5 I am Adonai—there is no other. Besides Me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not known Me, Isa 45:6 so they may know, from the rising to the setting of the sun, that there is no one besides Me. I am Adonai—there is no other. Isa 45:7 I form light and create darkness. I make shalom and create calamity. I, Adonai, do all these things. Isa 45:8 “Rain down, O heavens, from above, and let the clouds pour down justice. Let the earth open up, let salvation sprout, and righteousness spring up with it. I, Adonai, have created it.”
You Father cannot create a TOV perfect world, maybe one day He might? Correction – Has nothing to do with COULD NOT And everything to do with DID NOT not make a tov world Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. Isa 45:7 I form light and create darkness. I make shalom and create calamity. I, Adonai, do all these things. POINT – if it exist – it was created by God for God - Col 1:16 + John 1:3
Your Father intentionally made archons to test/tempt man POINT – if it exist – it was created by God for God - Col 1:16 + John 1:3
Your Father can murder so the Father does not follow His own laws. We have been over many examples – the 10 Commandments were not written for God to follow – they were written for man to follow YES – it is a sin to disobey God – or transgress his commandments BUT – you refuse to tell why it is a sin to obey God – to go and kill – to march and commit genocide You have no universal laws you follow youself That is just slander on your part
You have a eternal spirit in you that leaves when you die, no need for God... Only if I deny there is no after life BUT Christ proved that LIFE LIVES and there is a real and viable after life with God in heaven AND – I have a choice – Join with God – be His willing servant – and enter that after life OR – deny and face – proportional punishment until purified OR – receive a Divine Pardon Or never become purified and died the Second Death in the Lake of Fire
You have shedim that do not kill humans for fun, only suggest. 99.9999% CORRECT – anything to take us away from God The easiest seem to be – greed – jealously – sex – natural resources – POWER TRIPS by war lords and tyrants – Racism – classism – the only good Indian / Aborigine is a dead Indian Your savior PUTIN standing up to the world order killing how many destroying how many homes – causing a worldwide famine that will last 2 or more years – or don’t you know what is going on?
0.0001% - cannot deny - will not deny POSSESSION However - possession is always INVITED
You preach against trinity, you only have one Father, three expressions of One father is really one expression. You have no idea of what your saying – you just want to argue words
You preach against a Family love of elohiym powers God’s Love is Unrequited – God needs no help to love His creation
You have no opposing elohiym powers before the Father's face. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT
You claim to follow Jews but you don't follow their 613 laws at all You should read the New Testament – you might learn something
You introduced me to David Icke and his archons blood lines, not me Someone should – wake up and recognize what is in your sight
You introduced me to UFO's not me Someone should – wake up and recognize what is in your sight
You introduced me to your term archons, not me Someone should – wake up and recognize what is in your sight NAMES DO NOT MATTER _ call them principalities – call them devils – call the satanas – call them Bugs Bunny – who cares – NAMES DO NOT MATTER
Who is the archon preacher than? Not me. CORRCT – I freely admit that it is my mission to witness the glory of the lord wake up and recognize what is in your sight
THE REALITY OF THE ARCHON 101 – YES MY TEACHING
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Eph 6:14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; Eph 6:15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Eph 6:16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. Eph 6:17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; Eph 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel, Eph 6:20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.
Before I met you, we SDA hardly speak of an opposer, it is not allowed in our spiritual custom.
Why misrepresent Judaism in error – for what purpose? Why only teach a fraction of the total theology? What is there to hide. Paul says – KNOW YOUR ENEMY – the PRINCIPALITIES
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Post by Dave on Jun 30, 2022 18:12:53 GMT -5
biblehub.com/sermons/auth/parker/opposing_god_useless.htm Proverbs 11:21 Though hand join in hand, the wicked shall not be unpunished: but the seed of the righteous shall be delivered. the wicked shall not be unpunishedWHAT – you die – you sleep in a restful peacefull sleep – to wake up and die One punishment for everyone – contradictory to scripture Why do you deny the New Testament and then call yourself a Christian?2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, so that each one may receive what is due for the things he did while in the body—whether good or bad. The uselessness of opposing God must be manifest from every point of view. YES - ABSOLUTELY AGREE – your presentation of satan is uselessGod is omniscient, and knows all things; is almighty, and can do all things; is omnipresent, and is everywhere: so that no device or counsel or plot can succeed against HimYES - ABSOLUTELY AGREE – your presentation of the Great Controversy is useless------------ 38 Bible Verses about God Opposing Source: bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/God-Opposing Bingo 38 verses about the Lord being the opposerJames 4:6 But He gives a greater grace. Therefore it says, “God is opposed to the proud, but gives grace to the humble.” God is the opposer - BINGO!!1 Samuel 12:15 If you will not listen to the voice of the Lord, but rebel against the command of the Lord, then the hand of the Lord will be against you, as it was against your fathers. rebel against the command of the Lord, = disobey God or transgress His Commandment the Lord will be against you = BINGO!!Ezekiel 14:9 “But if the prophet is prevailed upon to speak a word, it is I, the Lord, who have prevailed upon that prophet, and I will stretch out My hand against him and destroy him from among My people Israel. The Lord is the destroyer - BINGO!!Psalm 34:16 The face of the Lord is against evildoers, To cut off the memory of them from the earth. Who is cutting them off = BINGO!!1 Peter 3:12 “For the eyes of the Lord are toward the righteous, And His ears attend to their prayer, But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.” the Lord is against = the Lord is the opposerLeviticus 26:24 then I will act with hostility against you; and I, even I, will strike you seven times for your sins. Who is doing the striking = BINGO!!Jeremiah 51:25 “Behold, I am against you, O destroying mountain, Who destroys the whole earth,” declares the Lord, “And I will stretch out My hand against you, And roll you down from the crags, And I will make you a burnt out mountain. Who does this destroying mountain represent?DUH ROBERT SERIOUSLY - YOU ASK THIS OF MERev 12:9 And the great dragon … the ancient serpent, called the devil and satan, who deceives the whole world.
Bingo 38 verses about the Lord being the opposerObviously your understanding of this word / concept / teachis is error I thought your satan was the opposerYou preach such a controdictory doctrine - we know you are not serious --------------- 2Ki 23:13 And the high places that were before Jerusalem, which were on the right hand of the mount of corruption, which Solomon the king of Israel had builded for Ashtoreth the abomination of the Zidonians, and for Chemosh the abomination of the Moabites, and for Milcom the abomination of the children of Ammon, did the king defile. Obviously the powers of the shedim, the opposing elohiym powers that faced mankind from the beginning of Creation, the serpent being the chief? YES – Absolutely Agree – FINALLY YOU SEE THE LIGHTObviously the powers of the shedim, the opposing elohiym powers that faced mankind the serpent being the chiefAs put in place by God – Gen 3:13-20 As put in place by God as described in the Gnostic Contest Absolutely opposite of two opposing gods in an eternal cosmic struggle--------------------------- D" Why do you deny the New Testament – Gospel? Rom 5:12 So then, just as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, in the same way death spread to all men because all sinned. R" It doesn't say chata entered the world it says chataah entered the world.Death through chataah, or sin-offering.TOTALLY REJECT YOUR WORD GAMEThe word is - G266 - ἁμαρτία – hamartia - From G264; sin (properly abstract): - offence, sin (-ful). Total KJV occurrences: 174 G264 - ἁμαρτάνω - hamartanō - Perhaps from G1 (as a negative particle) and the base of G3313; properly to miss the mark (and so not share in the prize), that is, (figuratively) to err, especially (morally) to sin: - for your faults, offend, sin, trespass. Death through chataah, or sin-offering.TOTALLY REJECT YOUR WORD GAMEjewishencyclopedia.com/articles/13764-sin-offeringThe sin-offering proper is a sacrifice consisting of either a beast or a fowl and offered on the altar to atone for a sin committed unwittingly. NO ONE IS MAKING A SACRIFICE FOR SIN – one man committed a sin – as all men commit sinsWhat you don't understand if mischief maker makes us sin, The serpent DID NOT MAKE EVE SIN – all he did was deceive – suggest – tempt – dared evenSTOP BLAMING your satan for your own choices STAND UP – REPENT - Psa 51:19 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit. A broken and a contrite heart, Re 13:2 ....and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And the archons gave the Roman governments his power, and his seat, and great authority. Can't you read my posts on the verses I post and put two and two together? I agree with your statement – the archon usurped the First Century Messianic Christianity was replaced with Roman Catholicism Rome acted in the way the archon powers wanted, so man was forced to worship Rome, thus worship the dragon as well. I agree with your statement – the archon usurped the First Century Messianic Christianity was replaced with Roman CatholicismYET – you promote Roman Catholic doctrine as Gospel
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Post by Dave on Jun 30, 2022 0:41:39 GMT -5
RP" Explain to me why sinning is not evidence of free will? D" The BEAST is a BEAST – the only driving force within him – (yester ra) Just like every other BEAST of the field R" You are misquoting your own Gnostic writings and twisting the words therein.
I quote" "and he became arrogant, saying, "It is I who am God, and there is none other apart from me". When he said this, he sinned against the entirety"
Arrogant = having or revealing an exaggerated sense of one's own importance or abilities. - "he's arrogant and opinionated" Similar: haughty, conceited, hubristic, self-important, opinionated, egotistic, full of oneself, overbearing, pompous, high-handed, swaggering, boastful, bumptious, blustering, patronizing, condescending, disdainful, contemptuous, imperious, proud, vain, immodest, lofty, lordly, snobbish, snobby, overweening, supercilious, smug, pretentious, affected, scornful, mocking, sneering, scoffing, hoity-toity, high and mighty, uppity, snooty, stuck-up, toffee-nosed, fancy-pants, snotty, jumped up, too big for one's boots, bigheaded
THis is the same boast as "Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Sorry – arrogant, snobby, and full of one’s self IS NOT 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High."
THE BEAST = Rev 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. Rev 12:2 She is pregnant—crying out in birth pains, in agony to give birth. Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: a great fiery red dragon that had seven heads and ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads. Rev 12:4 His tail sweeps away a third of the stars of heaven—it hurled them to the earth. Now the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that whenever she gave birth he might devour her child.
Eze 28:12 “Son of man, lift up a lament for the king of Tyre. Say to him, thus says Adonai Elohim: ‘You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. NOT THE BEAST Eze 28:13 You were in Eden, the garden of God. Every precious stone was your covering—ruby, topaz and diamond, beryl, onyx and jasper, sapphire, turquoise and emerald—your settings and your sockets a workmanship of gold—in the day you were created they were prepared. NOT THE BEAST Eze 28:14 You were an anointed guardian cheruv. I placed you on the holy mountain of God. You walked among stones of fire. NOT THE BEAST Eze 28:15 You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you. NOT THE BEAST Eze 28:16 By the abundance of your trade they filled you within with violence. So you have sinned. NOT THE BEAST All of this is about man - Eve
D"He was thrown down to the earth, and his angels (messengers / offspring / satan’s seed – the serpent race) were thrown down with him. R" OK so if the archon makes asexual copies of itself, than these other copies are genetic clones, is this right? WHO SAYS THIS SHIT - PLEASE STOP IT
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Post by Dave on Jun 30, 2022 0:18:07 GMT -5
D"The word spirit - means spirit - no more or less R" ruwach means medium, a special medium that is administrated by the Shadday and termed in English as HS, wind and spirit, just to confuse readers.Only in Robert’s word game Make sure your facts are facts before you post themH7307 – רוּחַ- rûach - From H7306; wind; by resemblance breath, that is, a sensible (or even violent) exhalation; figuratively life, anger, unsubstantiality; by extension a region of the sky; by resemblance spirit, but only of a rational being (including its expression and functions): - air, anger, blast, breath, X cool, courage, mind, X quarter, X side, spirit ([-ual]), tempest, X vain, ([whirl-]) wind (-y). Total KJV occurrences: 378 H7306 – רוּחַ - rûach - A primitive root; properly to blow, that is, breathe; only (literally) to smell or (by implication perceive (figuratively to anticipate, enjoy): - accept, smell, X touch, make of quick understanding. Total KJV occurrences: 11 RP"R" Well it should be easy to find me a verse, where the nephesh returns to God after leaving the body? Sadly there is no such verse. D"Mat 27:50 And Yeshua cried out again with a loud voice and gave up His spirit. Luk 23:46 And Yeshua, crying out with a loud voice, said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I entrust My spirit.’” When He had said this, He breathed His last. Rob notes" Mr 15:37 And <de> Jesus <Iesous> cried <aphiemi> with a loud <megas> voice <phone>, and gave up the ghost <ekpneo>. Lu 23:46 And <kai> when Jesus <Iesous> had cried <phoneo> with a loud <megas> voice <phone>, he said <epo>, Father <pater>, into <eis> thy <sou> hands <cheir> I commend <paratithemi> my <mou> spirit <pneuma>: and <kai> having said <epo> thus <tauta>, he gave up the ghost <ekpneo>. Joh 19:30 When <hote> Jesus <Iesous> therefore <oun> had received <lambano> the vinegar <oxos>, he said <epo>, It is finished <teleo>: and <kai> he bowed <klino> his head <kephale>, and gave up <paradidomi> the ghost <pneuma>. Mt 27:50 ¶ <de> Jesus <Iesous>, when he had cried <krazo> again <palin> with a loud <megas> voice <phone>, yielded up <aphiemi> the ghost <pneuma>. It is obvious from the verses that there are TWO "spirits" if you want these words, that play out,Hmmm?Mar 15:37 But letting out a loud cry, Yeshua breathed His last. Jesus the biological Son of Man breathed his last Luk 23:46 And Yeshua, crying out with a loud voice, said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I entrust My spirit.’”. Christ – the Son of God – was released – poured out – let go – to return to GodWhen He had said this, He breathed His last Jesus the biological Son of Man breathed his lastJoh 19:30 When Yeshua tasted the sour wine, He said, “It is finished!” And He bowed His head and gave up His spirit. Christ – the Son of God – was released – poured out – let go – to return to GodMat 27:50 And Yeshua cried out again with a loud voice and gave up His spirit. Christ – the Son of God – was released – poured out – let go – to return to GodIt is obvious from the verses that there are TWO "spirits" if you want these words, that play out, YES – Jesus the Son of Man breathed his last and died a mortal death YES – Christ – the Son of God was released – poured out – set free – let go – to return to GodWhen you die, the HS (pneumia) is given up, ANDYOU ARE NOT GOD!D" The First Resurrection shall reign with God – why do you call it punishment R" WHo says I said this? misquote and mock? My view is when we die we sleep the first death and if we are wicked we are resurrected again to meet GOD face to face, to be judged,2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, so that each one may receive what is due for the things he did while in the body—whether good or bad. ----------------- D"Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD R" WHo says I said this? misquote and mock? So stop using the Hebrew word "HS", that is not your spirit.
H7307 – רוּחַ - rûachJdg_9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech: Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit1Sa_16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him. Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit –FROM GOD1Sa_16:15 And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee. Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD1Sa_16:16 Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well. Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD1Sa_16:23 And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him. Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit1Sa_18:10 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand. Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD1Sa_19:9 And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand. Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD1Ki_22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee. Roberts teaches that the Holy Spirit is a lying spirit2Ch_18:22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee. Roberts teaches that the Holy Spirit is a lying spirit2Ch_33:6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is a FAMILIAR of witchcraft and wizardsMORE of Robert's and Ellen White's satanology
TOTALLY REJECTED - with predigest It is obvious you both just want to mock and belittle my teachings as I see them. You both misquote and twist my words, even fail to read the sentences I write.I read it all and quote it back to you – you are inconsistent and contradict yourself AND YOU BUTCHER SCRIPTURE FOR PLEASURERobert – You preach against the Trinity You preach against the idea of One True God You preach there is no spiritual life or life after death You preach that man and satan killed God on the cross You preach Ezk 28 – and the idea that a created being – is equivalent with God – able to change his own form and function against God Will – then changed God’s plan for His creation against God’s Will All of it is NOT Judeo-Christian – None of it is Judeo-Christian If your only goal here is to make satan believers out of us – you can stop anytime
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Post by Dave on Jun 29, 2022 17:41:52 GMT -5
Question " Is sinning a free will choice that opposes God? Y/N? D"No – Repeat – Sin is disobeying God or transgressing His Commandments When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicideR" What word games you play, Question " Is sinning a free will choice that opposes God? Y/N?No – Repeat – Sin is disobeying God or transgressing His Commandments When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicide D"WOW – some God of Love and Mercy only – killed all but 8 R" No, did not kill all, only 8 choose life, the others wanted deathD = When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicideD"WOW – some God of Love and Mercy only – killed all but 4 – I mean 3 R" God didn't kill them, they killed themselvesD = When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicideD" I thought your god never causes hurt? R" correct. God is not mocked a person reaps what they sow, if you sow sins you reap death. God does not cause your death, you do.D = When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicideGod is graceous to keep you alive while you sin.YES – God’s love is unrequited – it is called GRACEyour death was caused by your self and your sinnings.D = When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicide Richard " For the longest time I thought you were just wasting your time, You agree when it fits your doctrine – and you disagree when it doesn’t You do not present a consistent argument – you just oppose whatever is saidSo disobeying is not opposing? I think they are the same behaviour? You are so weird/I’ll teach the boss – I’ll just be unemployed – that harms the boss how? Eventually when you run out of money and opportunities – you just feel stupid – because you choose to disobey D"Then why do you preach two gods locked in a cosmic struggle – The Great Controversy R" because this is the first time free will was exercised, so the kind God had to let other sinless creatures know the full extent of the free will that chooses to oppose God. Why do you deny the New Testament – Gospel?Rom 5:12 So then, just as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, in the same way death spread to all men because all sinned. D"Do BEAST have guilty consciousness’? Rob quotes" "and he became arrogant, saying, "It is I who am God, and there is none other apart from me". This is SELF - only thinking of self = (yester ra) a Jewish concept you refuse to acknowledge The mindset of every BEAST, Fish, or Fowl made of matter Go forth – be fruitful and multiply – The first commandment by GodRobert claims this is sinningWhen he said this, he sinned against the entirety"Against the entirety – to stand up and declare that you are the only one From this quote, yes the archons do have free will to sin,From this quote – the Beast is just a Beast like all the beastD" Gen 6 Archon are held in chains – Jude and Enoch + NHL These sinning ‘angels’ are to be released again in Rev 9 – to sting man for 5 months R" I quote your words, and you agree, sinning angels held in judgement, because they sinned. Chose to sin, makes them sinners. Using the free will to oppose God. The archon took on more of a human form and were able to (yester ra) with womenCorrect – finally you agreeTheir sin was NOT to reproduce after their own kind – the only other commandment for Beast by God 200 - or so – of manyD"NO CHRISTIAN or JEW would ever say satan is more powerful than God R" depends what you mean by power? Does GOD force the human free will to love Him? No NO IT DOES NOT - DEPEND No one compares to the One True God – in any way – in any form – in any fashion Absolutely ridicules This promise says GOD is more powerful than the OPPOSER, and thus by simply speaking the Name in faith, GOD can rescue you from the OPPOSER. You do not preach a consistant doctrineDoes the Opposer force the human free will to worship him? "Yes, sort of"Caesar forced men to worship him The archon tempt you to worship them – the choice of ignorance is always yoursD" The archon or your satan are not allowed to kill man – only torment R" Baloney. Look at Job's children, who murdered the children, the humans CORRECT - man did itwho were influenced by the shedim, and the chief shedim, YES - tempted – suggested – influenced – even dared You are a pussy if you do not go kick someone’s ass – it is the code of the gangsWhere do you think death comes from? God is naturally living.REPEAT - Rom 5:12 So then, just as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, in the same way death spread to all men because all sinned. WHY DO YOU DENY THE NEW TESTAMENT – GOSPEL?Re 12:4 ...the dragon stood before the ..to devour her child as soon as it was born. So this verse is not about the death of the baby? Right? It is about all creation on all levels of creation - AgreedRe 13:2 ...the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.Rev 13:1 Then I saw a beast rising out of the sea, that had ten horns and seven heads. On his horns were ten royal crowns, and upon his heads were slanderous names. Rev 13:2 Now the beast that I saw was like a leopard, his feet like a lion’s, and his mouth like a bear’s. And the dragon gave him his power and his throne and great authority. Rev 13:3 One of his heads seemed to have been slain, but the fatal wound was healed. The whole earth was amazed and followed the beast. Rev 13:4 And they worshiped the dragon, because he had given authority to the beast. They also worshiped the beast, chanting, “Who is like the beast, and who can make war against him?” Who says – there is no god but Allah – and who can make war against him?
Re 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them:
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Re 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints. YES – Christian MartyrsRev 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and people sat upon them—those to whom authority to judge was given. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Yeshua and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image, nor had they received his mark on their forehead or on their hand. And they came to life and reigned with the Messiah for a thousand years. First Fruits – in heaven serving the Lord before the First ResurrectionRev 20:5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. If you go by numbers, sinning is more popular. If you go by power, only God is more powerful. There is a promiseTheology is not a popularity contest – of course the World is seductive to the worldly - duhWe are talking about the Creator in heaven – who loved you enough to come to earth as a man and die as a man – so that you could avoid the Lake of FireAll you want to talk about is the world and things of this world
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Post by Dave on Jun 29, 2022 12:49:16 GMT -5
Christianity's devil Any Sunday school student can tell you that Satan is a fallen angel, but this fall actually isn't described in the New Testament, or the Christian bible, ...---------------- Christianity's devil was invented by the Catholic Church to scare the population into the church Catholic satan doctrine comes from a novel written by Dante
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Post by Dave on Jun 29, 2022 12:26:25 GMT -5
Appericiate the post Rich
D" Ecc 12:7 Then the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it. R" Are you dull or what, this verse doesn't even have the word "soul" So stop using the Hebrew word "HS", that is not your spirit.
H7307 – רוּחַ - rûach
Jdg_9:23 Then God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the men of Shechem; and the men of Shechem dealt treacherously with Abimelech:
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit
1Sa_16:14 But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit –FROM GOD
1Sa_16:15 And Saul's servants said unto him, Behold now, an evil spirit from God troubleth thee.
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD
1Sa_16:16 Let our lord now command thy servants, which are before thee, to seek out a man, who is a cunning player on an harp: and it shall come to pass, when the evil spirit from God is upon thee, that he shall play with his hand, and thou shalt be well.
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD
1Sa_16:23 And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him.
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit
1Sa_18:10 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the evil spirit from God came upon Saul, and he prophesied in the midst of the house: and David played with his hand, as at other times: and there was a javelin in Saul's hand.
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD
1Sa_19:9 And the evil spirit from the LORD was upon Saul, as he sat in his house with his javelin in his hand: and David played with his hand.
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is an evil spirit – FROM GOD
1Ki_22:23 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil concerning thee.
Roberts teaches that the Holy Spirit is a lying spirit
2Ch_18:22 Now therefore, behold, the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets, and the LORD hath spoken evil against thee.
Roberts teaches that the Holy Spirit is a lying spirit
2Ch_33:6 And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
Robert teaches that the Holy Spirit is a FAMILIAR of witchcraft and wizards
MORE of Robert's and Ellen White's satanology
TOTALLY REJECTED - with predigest
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Post by Dave on Jun 29, 2022 6:30:19 GMT -5
D" Ecc 12:7 Then the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
SOul lives after it leaves the body. R" Are you dull or what, this verse doesn't even have the word "soul" So stop using the Hebrew word "HS", that is not your spirit. The word spirit - means spirit - no more or less
Sure the HS returns to the Father after the body dies. You teach every man is a born again Christian
D" YES – upon mortal death – our soul/spirit is poured out / released / set free to return to God R" Well it should be easy to find me a verse, where the nephesh returns to God after leaving the body? Sadly there is no such verse.
Isa 53:12 Therefore I will give Him a portion with the great, and He will divide the spoil with the mighty—because He poured out His soul to death, and was counted with transgressors. For He bore the sin of many, and interceded for the transgressors.
Mat 27:50 And Yeshua cried out again with a loud voice and gave up His spirit.
Luk 23:46 And Yeshua, crying out with a loud voice, said, “Father, ‘into Your hands I entrust My spirit.’” When He had said this, He breathed His last.
Joh 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. I don't think so, that death is eternal, only divinity can be raised from that death... it is truly final.
D" The teaching that you will not be punished for your sins – but sleep peacefully in the grave – is satanic YOU WILL BE PUNISHED FOR YOUR SIN - to each man according his due My view is when we die we sleep the first death and if we are wicked we are resurrected again to meet GOD face to face, to be judged
The First Resurrection shall reign with God – why do you call it punishment Your satan must be so pleased with your teaching So this is the teaching of Ellen White = 100% Blasphemy
Rev 20:5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Rev 20:6 How fortunate and holy is the one who has a share in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no authority, but they shall be kohanim of God and the Messiah, and they shall reign with Him for a thousand years.
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Post by Dave on Jun 29, 2022 6:10:11 GMT -5
Question " Is sinning a free will choice that opposes God? Y/N? No – Repeat – Sin is disobeying God or transgressing His Commandments When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicide
D"WOW – some God of Love and Mercy only – killed all but 8 R" No, did not kill all, only 8 choose life, the others wanted death D = When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicide
D"WOW – some God of Love and Mercy only – killed all but 4 – I mean 3 R" God didn't kill them, they killed themselves D = When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicide
D" I thought your god never causes hurt? R" correct. God is not mocked a person reaps what they sow, if you sow sins you reap death. God does not cause your death, you do. D = When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicide
God is graceous to keep you alive while you sin. YES – God’s love is unrequited – it is called GRACE
your death was caused by your self and your sinnings. D = When you sin – you are not opposing God – you are committing spiritual suicide ------------
R" sinning cannot exist in God's world, so a god of sinning also cannot exist. There is only one God and one choice, He way, the sinless way. Then why do you preach two gods locked in a cosmic struggle – The Great Controversy
D"So – your satan god prevented – stopped – didn’t allow your Feel Good God to introduce himself R" God talks to wicked people all the time via the conscience, Do BEAST have guilty consciousness’? – are do they only have (yester ra) SELF, Self-Preservation, and the survival of the species?
but Satan the sinning power opposes this by drowning out the voice with music, food and drugs. Duh I agree – the mission of the archon is to keep man sidetracked with world The Hypostasis of the Archons Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.
D"So – you teach the world and other gods stronger that your Feel Good God’s love D" So your satan god is the STRONGER of the two? R" In a world of sinning, the sinning power is stronger than the loving power? Yes NO CHRISTIAN or JEW would ever say satan is more powerful than God Your satan must be so pleased with you and your teaching So this is the teaching of Ellen White = 100% Blasphemy
So - in heaven God is locked in a cosmic struggel with your satan and on earth your satan is more powerful than God Your satan must be so pleased with you and your teaching So this is the teaching of Ellen White = 100% Blasphemy
What happens when a sinless one runs into a sinning one on earth? The sinning one hate the sinless one, and try to kill them. A sinning one would hate being in a sinless world anyway and long for death. The archon or your satan are not allowed to kill man – only torment
D" Things are as they are because that is how God made things R" No things are as they are because sin is to be played out. YEP – God’s Plan – God’s Will – 100% Gnostic
Authoritative Teaching And before anything came into being, it was the Father alone who existed, before the worlds that are in the heavens appeared, or the world that is on the earth, or principality, or authority, or the powers. [...] appear [...] and [...] And nothing came into being without his wish.
He, then, the Father, wishing to reveal his wealth and his glory, brought about this great contest in this world, wishing to make the contestants appear, and make all those who contend leave behind the things that had come into being, and despise them with a lofty, incomprehensible knowledge, and flee to the one who exists.
And (as for) those who contend with us, being adversaries who contend against us, we are to be victorious over their ignorance through our knowledge, since we have already known the Inscrutable One from whom we have come forth. We have nothing in this world, lest the authority of the world that has come into being should detain us in the world
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