Post by Dave on Jan 3, 2024 15:17:23 GMT -5
I am a Christian – as I study with other Christians I am asked to identify myself. What type of Christian am I? Am I Catholic, Baptist, or Presbyterian? The correct answer = I am none of those – and I reject formal membership I any specific denomination- so I call myself a Gnostic Christian.
Jesus Christ was the Jewish Messiah → Judaism is the foundation of Christianity
Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Torah or the Prophets! I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 Amen, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or serif shall ever pass away from the Torah until all things come to pass.
Mat 5:19 Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever keeps and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus was a Jew – His Disciples were Jewish – His followers were Jewish
All of them understood Jewish theology and Jewish Demonology
All of them were Pentecostal Messianic Jews
Rabbi Cahn – calls this the Christianity of the Book of Acts
This represents the ORIGIONAL Christianity left to us by Jesus Christ and His Gospel
Diana Pasulka – in the video podcast - Top Aerospace Scientists Suspect UFOs are Biblical Time Machines – stated the most eloquent answer to what is Gnostic Christianity – “It is the form of Christianity before Rome instutionalized the belief … It is experiential - intimate knowledge”
It is experiential - All of them were Pentecostal Messianic Jews - Rabbi Cahn – calls this the Christianity of the Book of Acts - This represents the ORIGIONAL Christianity left to us by Jesus Christ and His Gospel
This is the theology I seek – this is the Christianity I seek – it is spiritual – it is the promise of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit – to be led / taught / comforted by the spirit
Diana Pasulka – also says early Gnostic Christianity was diverse – like different denominations
Truth – the 12 went out into the world to spread Christianity
Some early groups were founded by James – some by Paul – some by Peter – etc – each different.
Groups that only had the writings of John were different than the followers of James
Groups that only had the writings of Paul were different yet again
Each NT Gospel is different - buy itself – but each testify to the same whole
Gnostic example =
Egyptian Coptic Christianity based upon their first Pope – John Mark, the scribe of Peter and the author of the Gospel of Mark.
It is a different flavor than Greek Orthodox of John or the Roman Catholics based on Paul
Valentinus simplified the Gnostic Christian teaching as
There are three types of Christians
1- the lost – pretenders – luke warm Christians
2- believers – saved and secure – cold Christians – led by leaders, pastors, priest, etc
3- Spiritual Christians – Baptized by the Holy Spirit – hot Christians – led by the spirit
Diana Pasulka – stated the most eloquent answer to what is Gnostic Christianity – “It is the form of Christianity before Rome instutionalized the belief … ”
In the fields of history and literature the term Roman Edit is used to describe this instutionalization of information. All literature from 200BC to 400AD was pro-Roman / Rome centric or it was destroyed. From this era in literature we get the phrase – ‘history is written by the victor’
Diana Pasulka says - the ‘institionalazation of belief’ - How do they do this – they vilify other Christian groups and call them heretical Gnostics - Roman Church does this in the 4th century
Truth – this urge to instutionalize the religion / organize the religion under one central authority
Begins with Irenaeus, 90AD of Lyons, France and the creation of “Against Heresies”
Repeated - Hippolytus of Rome in ‘The Refutation of All Heresies’ of the early third century`
To become known as the Roman Index – a list of texts Christian are not allowed to read
Her statement - Burn away heretical gnostic teaching – destroy the evidence - Roman Church does this in the 4th century
Is true on the small scale until the marriage between church and state, but once the “Church” had the full support of the “Empire” – it was impossible to survive outside of Rome.
Roman Edit - the instutionalization of information – end result
If you are a Roman Catholic → a modern day Protestant → Western Roman Christendom
You might have been taught → this is a good thing to weed out false teachings
If you are an honest historian → the Roman pattern of Edit is obvious in the Canonization of the “Bible”
First and most obvious edit to anyone - Valentinus - There are three types of Christians
1- the lost – pretenders – luke warm Christians
2- believers – saved and secure – cold Christians – led by leaders, pastors, priest, etc
3- Spiritual Christians – Baptized by the Holy Spirit – hot Christians – led by the spirit
The Roman Edit rejected texts that emphasize walking in the spirit – being filled with the spirit
The (First) Apocalypse (Revelation) of James
The (Second) Apocalypse (Revelation) of James
The Apocalypse (Revelation) of Paul
The Apocalypse (Revelation) of Peter
The Apocryphon (Secret Book) of James
The Apocryphon (Secret Book) of John
The Gospel of Philip
The Gospel of Thomas
Why edit this teaching?
No invading force could govern the Jews – they already had a King and a Law
Rome could not govern – independent led by the spirit Christians
Rome had to frown on this teaching to force dependency upon a priest and the church
Truth –
If you have been touched by the spirit / spiritual in any way – you understand - It is experiential - intimate knowledge
If you don’t get it – you mock what you do not know – Rome called it “secret knowledge”
Rome goes on to mock the Baptism of the Holy Spirit by claiming – Gnostic have a secret knowledge that saves them
Truth –
Jesus was a Jew – His Disciples were Jewish – His followers were Jewish
All of them understood Jewish Theology and Jewish Demonology
All of them were Pentecostal Messianic Jews
Rabbi Cahn – calls this the Christianity of the Book of Acts
This represents the ORIGIONAL Christianity left to us by Jesus Christ and His Gospel
If you are an honest historian → the Roman pattern of Edit is obvious in the Canonization of the “Bible”
First and most obvious edit to anyone → be led by a priest and the church – not spirituality
The second theme for edit → Jewish Demonology in its entirety
If you are a Roman Catholic → a modern day Protestant → Western Roman Christendom
You might have been taught → the other gods and demons of the OT are fictional superstitions
You might have been taught → the idea of ancient astronaut gods is fictional superstition
You might have been taught → the worship of serpent gods are fictional superstitions
Jewish Demonology – since the beginning to this very day =
Hebrew satan – an angel of the Lord working for the Lord – heaven’s prosecutor
+ the other gods of the Levant (Baal, Molech, Dogon, Beelzebub, etc) + their demons
+ the other gods of the entire world – Egypt – Sumar– Assyria – Babylon – Hittites + India – Greece
This is the exact same demonology presented within the “Gnostic” Nag Hammadi Library
The only difference is a change in vocabulary
Between 970 to 931 BC – Judaism had Hebrew satan the prosecutor
+ all the other gods are called shedim and demons by King Solomon
During the first and second centuries AD in Greek – the authors of the NT and the Nag Hammadi Library called them ARCHON
Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers (ARCHON), against the powers, against the worldly forces of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Jewish Demonology – since the beginning to this very day = created beast of the field
Gen 3:1 But the serpent was shrewder than any animal of the field that Adonai Elohim made.
Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created—in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen, whether thrones or angelic powers or rulers or authorities (ARCHON). All was created through Him and for Him.
Rev 4:11 “Worthy are You, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, For You created all things, and because of Your will they existed and were created!”
Jewish Demonology – since the beginning to this very day = created beast of the field – who act as the force of entropy within creation – the negative energy - the destroyer
Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: a great fiery red dragon that had seven heads and ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads.
Rev 12:4 His tail sweeps away a third of the stars of heaven—it hurled them to the earth. Now the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that whenever she gave birth he might devour her child.
The second theme for edit → by the fourth century AD → Jewish Demonology was replaced in its entirety → by Roman Fallen Angels from Ezk 28,
a self-made god of evil – who rebels, hates , and opposes God’s right to rule the universe
Why edit this teaching?
Just as → the Roman pattern of Edit is obvious in the Canonization of the “Bible”
First and most obvious edit to anyone → be led by a priest and the church – not spirituality
The second theme for edit → Roman Fallen Angels from Ezk 28 – satan is promoted as the god of evil
→ a Machiavellian creation by Rome to scare the people into the church → to force dependency upon a priest and the church
Thus the phrase – ‘the devil is the Catholic’s best friend because he keeps the church in business’
What is a Gnostic Christian?
1Th 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit,
1Th 5:20 do not despise prophetic messages,
1Th 5:21 but test all things, hold fast to what is good,
Rom 1:19 because what can be known about God is plain to them—for God has shown it to them.
Rom 1:20 His invisible attributes—His eternal power and His divine nature—have been clearly seen ever since the creation of the world, being understood through the things that have been made. So people are without excuse—
Gnostic Christianity – things only happened one way – therefore an honest investigation of all things must validate that central truth – God did it
Gnostic Christianity – science is not the enemy
Modern science no longer accepts the religion of Godless evolution
Instead they now identify all creation as an “Intelligent Design”
The ORDER of Big Bang + expansion + light + stellar cosmology + the ORDER of evolution
Is the exact same ORDER as the story of creation in Genesis
Both speak to the exact same event - they do not contradict one another
Dave – together they are just “Incremental Creation” – God did it
Gnostic Christianity – science is not the enemy
One of the hardest Biblical stories to grasp in modern language = the Flood of Noah
WEDD + FD-WEDT – is the exact same sequence / ORDER and the flood story in Genesis
And provides the mechanism for many other scientific theories
Gnostic Christianity
1Th 5:16 Rejoice always,
1Th 5:17 pray constantly,
1Th 5:18 in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Messiah Yeshua.
As a Protestant I did not understand why Rabbi Friedman could say the Jewish Holocaust was a blessing to the Jewish people – what could be good about the Holocaust – especially for the Jews?
Rabbi Friedman – of course no one at the time understood God’s Plan
But as a Jew rejoice and give thanks – even as you are marching off to your death
After the fact - God’s Plan becomes more clear
½ of the Jews were martyred for their God – the most worthy of all deaths
½ the Jews survive to revive 1948 Israel – the fulfillment of prophesy
Rejoice always – even in hardship and death
Feel Good Christianity likes to teach:
Rom 8:28 Now we know that all things work together for good for those who love God…
Whatever your trouble – just give it to God and all will be well
Yet – people still die from disease – war continues to invade our lives – and new Christians are left wondering – is Christianity real – or an empty message
Gnostic Christianity is very Jewish -
Rom 8:28 Now we know that all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to His purpose.
Is God’s Will – His purpose – God’s Plan – that we are to rejoice and praise
Jesus Christ was the Jewish Messiah → Judaism is the foundation of Christianity
Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Torah or the Prophets! I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 Amen, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or serif shall ever pass away from the Torah until all things come to pass.
Mat 5:19 Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever keeps and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Jesus was a Jew – His Disciples were Jewish – His followers were Jewish
All of them understood Jewish theology and Jewish Demonology
All of them were Pentecostal Messianic Jews
Rabbi Cahn – calls this the Christianity of the Book of Acts
This represents the ORIGIONAL Christianity left to us by Jesus Christ and His Gospel
Diana Pasulka – in the video podcast - Top Aerospace Scientists Suspect UFOs are Biblical Time Machines – stated the most eloquent answer to what is Gnostic Christianity – “It is the form of Christianity before Rome instutionalized the belief … It is experiential - intimate knowledge”
It is experiential - All of them were Pentecostal Messianic Jews - Rabbi Cahn – calls this the Christianity of the Book of Acts - This represents the ORIGIONAL Christianity left to us by Jesus Christ and His Gospel
This is the theology I seek – this is the Christianity I seek – it is spiritual – it is the promise of the Baptism of the Holy Spirit – to be led / taught / comforted by the spirit
Diana Pasulka – also says early Gnostic Christianity was diverse – like different denominations
Truth – the 12 went out into the world to spread Christianity
Some early groups were founded by James – some by Paul – some by Peter – etc – each different.
Groups that only had the writings of John were different than the followers of James
Groups that only had the writings of Paul were different yet again
Each NT Gospel is different - buy itself – but each testify to the same whole
Gnostic example =
Egyptian Coptic Christianity based upon their first Pope – John Mark, the scribe of Peter and the author of the Gospel of Mark.
It is a different flavor than Greek Orthodox of John or the Roman Catholics based on Paul
Valentinus simplified the Gnostic Christian teaching as
There are three types of Christians
1- the lost – pretenders – luke warm Christians
2- believers – saved and secure – cold Christians – led by leaders, pastors, priest, etc
3- Spiritual Christians – Baptized by the Holy Spirit – hot Christians – led by the spirit
Diana Pasulka – stated the most eloquent answer to what is Gnostic Christianity – “It is the form of Christianity before Rome instutionalized the belief … ”
In the fields of history and literature the term Roman Edit is used to describe this instutionalization of information. All literature from 200BC to 400AD was pro-Roman / Rome centric or it was destroyed. From this era in literature we get the phrase – ‘history is written by the victor’
Diana Pasulka says - the ‘institionalazation of belief’ - How do they do this – they vilify other Christian groups and call them heretical Gnostics - Roman Church does this in the 4th century
Truth – this urge to instutionalize the religion / organize the religion under one central authority
Begins with Irenaeus, 90AD of Lyons, France and the creation of “Against Heresies”
Repeated - Hippolytus of Rome in ‘The Refutation of All Heresies’ of the early third century`
To become known as the Roman Index – a list of texts Christian are not allowed to read
Her statement - Burn away heretical gnostic teaching – destroy the evidence - Roman Church does this in the 4th century
Is true on the small scale until the marriage between church and state, but once the “Church” had the full support of the “Empire” – it was impossible to survive outside of Rome.
Roman Edit - the instutionalization of information – end result
If you are a Roman Catholic → a modern day Protestant → Western Roman Christendom
You might have been taught → this is a good thing to weed out false teachings
If you are an honest historian → the Roman pattern of Edit is obvious in the Canonization of the “Bible”
First and most obvious edit to anyone - Valentinus - There are three types of Christians
1- the lost – pretenders – luke warm Christians
2- believers – saved and secure – cold Christians – led by leaders, pastors, priest, etc
3- Spiritual Christians – Baptized by the Holy Spirit – hot Christians – led by the spirit
The Roman Edit rejected texts that emphasize walking in the spirit – being filled with the spirit
The (First) Apocalypse (Revelation) of James
The (Second) Apocalypse (Revelation) of James
The Apocalypse (Revelation) of Paul
The Apocalypse (Revelation) of Peter
The Apocryphon (Secret Book) of James
The Apocryphon (Secret Book) of John
The Gospel of Philip
The Gospel of Thomas
Why edit this teaching?
No invading force could govern the Jews – they already had a King and a Law
Rome could not govern – independent led by the spirit Christians
Rome had to frown on this teaching to force dependency upon a priest and the church
Truth –
If you have been touched by the spirit / spiritual in any way – you understand - It is experiential - intimate knowledge
If you don’t get it – you mock what you do not know – Rome called it “secret knowledge”
Rome goes on to mock the Baptism of the Holy Spirit by claiming – Gnostic have a secret knowledge that saves them
Truth –
Jesus was a Jew – His Disciples were Jewish – His followers were Jewish
All of them understood Jewish Theology and Jewish Demonology
All of them were Pentecostal Messianic Jews
Rabbi Cahn – calls this the Christianity of the Book of Acts
This represents the ORIGIONAL Christianity left to us by Jesus Christ and His Gospel
If you are an honest historian → the Roman pattern of Edit is obvious in the Canonization of the “Bible”
First and most obvious edit to anyone → be led by a priest and the church – not spirituality
The second theme for edit → Jewish Demonology in its entirety
If you are a Roman Catholic → a modern day Protestant → Western Roman Christendom
You might have been taught → the other gods and demons of the OT are fictional superstitions
You might have been taught → the idea of ancient astronaut gods is fictional superstition
You might have been taught → the worship of serpent gods are fictional superstitions
Jewish Demonology – since the beginning to this very day =
Hebrew satan – an angel of the Lord working for the Lord – heaven’s prosecutor
+ the other gods of the Levant (Baal, Molech, Dogon, Beelzebub, etc) + their demons
+ the other gods of the entire world – Egypt – Sumar– Assyria – Babylon – Hittites + India – Greece
This is the exact same demonology presented within the “Gnostic” Nag Hammadi Library
The only difference is a change in vocabulary
Between 970 to 931 BC – Judaism had Hebrew satan the prosecutor
+ all the other gods are called shedim and demons by King Solomon
During the first and second centuries AD in Greek – the authors of the NT and the Nag Hammadi Library called them ARCHON
Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers (ARCHON), against the powers, against the worldly forces of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Jewish Demonology – since the beginning to this very day = created beast of the field
Gen 3:1 But the serpent was shrewder than any animal of the field that Adonai Elohim made.
Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created—in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen, whether thrones or angelic powers or rulers or authorities (ARCHON). All was created through Him and for Him.
Rev 4:11 “Worthy are You, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honor and power, For You created all things, and because of Your will they existed and were created!”
Jewish Demonology – since the beginning to this very day = created beast of the field – who act as the force of entropy within creation – the negative energy - the destroyer
Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: a great fiery red dragon that had seven heads and ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads.
Rev 12:4 His tail sweeps away a third of the stars of heaven—it hurled them to the earth. Now the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that whenever she gave birth he might devour her child.
The second theme for edit → by the fourth century AD → Jewish Demonology was replaced in its entirety → by Roman Fallen Angels from Ezk 28,
a self-made god of evil – who rebels, hates , and opposes God’s right to rule the universe
Why edit this teaching?
Just as → the Roman pattern of Edit is obvious in the Canonization of the “Bible”
First and most obvious edit to anyone → be led by a priest and the church – not spirituality
The second theme for edit → Roman Fallen Angels from Ezk 28 – satan is promoted as the god of evil
→ a Machiavellian creation by Rome to scare the people into the church → to force dependency upon a priest and the church
Thus the phrase – ‘the devil is the Catholic’s best friend because he keeps the church in business’
What is a Gnostic Christian?
1Th 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit,
1Th 5:20 do not despise prophetic messages,
1Th 5:21 but test all things, hold fast to what is good,
Rom 1:19 because what can be known about God is plain to them—for God has shown it to them.
Rom 1:20 His invisible attributes—His eternal power and His divine nature—have been clearly seen ever since the creation of the world, being understood through the things that have been made. So people are without excuse—
Gnostic Christianity – things only happened one way – therefore an honest investigation of all things must validate that central truth – God did it
Gnostic Christianity – science is not the enemy
Modern science no longer accepts the religion of Godless evolution
Instead they now identify all creation as an “Intelligent Design”
The ORDER of Big Bang + expansion + light + stellar cosmology + the ORDER of evolution
Is the exact same ORDER as the story of creation in Genesis
Both speak to the exact same event - they do not contradict one another
Dave – together they are just “Incremental Creation” – God did it
Gnostic Christianity – science is not the enemy
One of the hardest Biblical stories to grasp in modern language = the Flood of Noah
WEDD + FD-WEDT – is the exact same sequence / ORDER and the flood story in Genesis
And provides the mechanism for many other scientific theories
Gnostic Christianity
1Th 5:16 Rejoice always,
1Th 5:17 pray constantly,
1Th 5:18 in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Messiah Yeshua.
As a Protestant I did not understand why Rabbi Friedman could say the Jewish Holocaust was a blessing to the Jewish people – what could be good about the Holocaust – especially for the Jews?
Rabbi Friedman – of course no one at the time understood God’s Plan
But as a Jew rejoice and give thanks – even as you are marching off to your death
After the fact - God’s Plan becomes more clear
½ of the Jews were martyred for their God – the most worthy of all deaths
½ the Jews survive to revive 1948 Israel – the fulfillment of prophesy
Rejoice always – even in hardship and death
Feel Good Christianity likes to teach:
Rom 8:28 Now we know that all things work together for good for those who love God…
Whatever your trouble – just give it to God and all will be well
Yet – people still die from disease – war continues to invade our lives – and new Christians are left wondering – is Christianity real – or an empty message
Gnostic Christianity is very Jewish -
Rom 8:28 Now we know that all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to His purpose.
Is God’s Will – His purpose – God’s Plan – that we are to rejoice and praise