UFOs are Biblical

[Dave]

Top Aerospace Scientists Suspect UFOs are Biblical Time Machines | Diana Walsh Pasulka
Danny Jones podcast – 2:36:00

Point #1 – she is an academic – not a preacher

0.00-3:00 She is an academic – looking at the topic without the bias of religious belief
She is not to prove any one belief or endorse any one belief
She does believe and is a church going Catholic – some Jewish background

She noticed people having EXPERIENCES- and wanted to know more
She studied many religions + the lexicon of current culture


Point # 2 Catholic church history

6:00 – she found a lot of data on one topics that opened the door to UFO studies
7:45 ancient church records – look just like modern day UFO encounters
Church records talking about other beings and UFOs
11:50 not imaginary angels – but real creatures on the ground 3 feet tall and shining

Unable to describe what they saw – not quite sure of it shape - could be a demon or an angel

13:00 an angel or demon with a tool that examines her
13:25 – took the tool and thrusted it into her entrails (She was probed)
14:00 miles of this information at the Vatican secret archives

16:00 her works leads her to people in high research looking into UAPs as inter-dimensional visitors
Secret people that must remain anonymous

Point #3 – the Roman Edit

22:50 – the instutionalzation of information – Roman Edit
Information –vs- miss-information
The early Christian church were radically different then the “Roman Catholic church”
24:00 – what happen in the ‘institionalazation of belief’ - Roman Church does this in the 4th century
How do they do this – they vilify other Christian groups and call them heretical Gnostics
Burn away heretical gnostic teaching – destroy the evidence

Point #4 – what is Gnosticism

24:30 – what is Gnosticism – it is the form of Christianity before Rome instutionalized the belief
It is experiential - intimate knowledge
Almost eradicated by Rome

27:30 – why can’t an outside force govern the Jews – they already have a king and a law
Jesus claiming to the son of God = treason in the Roman empire

Point #5 the ability to download

45:30 –protocals of practice – able to connect with the network of nature
Within scripture this = Divine Revelation – prophesy
Some people have the ability to download information from – the akasic record – spiritual intelligence
Protocols – meditation – drugs to open your mind to a larger reality
Downloading inspirations through meditation

People like Edgar Casey – Jean Dixon maybe even Nostradamus are too real to be denied
People do receive inspirations / revelations from God via the Spirit
Yes – I believe this

1st Book of Adam and Eve
8:1 THEN Adam wept and said, "O God, when we dwelt in the garden, and our hearts were lifted up, we saw the angels that sang praises in heaven, but now we do not see as we were used to do; nay, when we entered the cave, all creation became hidden from us."

2 Then God the Lord said unto Adam, "When thou wast under subjection to Me, thou hadst a bright nature within thee, and for that reason couldst thou see things afar off. But after thy transgression thy bright nature was withdrawn from thee; and it was not left to thee to see things afar off, but only near at hand; after the ability of the flesh; for it is brutish."

Gnostic answer – some people are just brighter than others

1:06 = The Allegory of the Cave – if you want to understand Plato – here it is
We live in an illusion – a shadow of what is

Point #6 - 1:14:00 – the hierarchy of spiritual beings

God at the top
Angels below God
Then ‘ off planet beings’ (principalities – archon)
Then factions in the intelligence community (Shadow governments)
Then man at the bottom

1:44 Jacques Valle – UFOS are inter-dimensional visitors – ancient time seen as demon and angels – today see as UFOs
Passport to Patagonia – Yes – amazing book
One of the best libraries of ancient texts on angels

Point 37 - 1:50:25 the history of satan

1:51:00 telephone game in texts – descriptions drift over time – cultural drift
1:52:00 academic – look at the text – what does it say – not what other people say about it

1:53:00 – the devil is the Catholic’s best friend because he keeps the church in business
(that is why they invented him)
1:54:00 – satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not
1:55:00 but if you add the rest of the story –
Things that are seen / experienced = either demons (satan) or angels

satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not
gnostic answer – satan of Hebrew origin = an angel of the Lord working for the Lord
satans of Chaldean origin = the Beast of Revelation we call serpent – devils and satanas

156:00 – Niche – if your interested – synchronicity
Does God place things in your life on purpose – or is it all just coincidence
Gnostic answer – both – coincidence is real and so is God placing people and things in our lives on purpose

UFOs are Biblical Time Machines
Never does she say this – but does say UFOs = demons / UFOs are very real / UFOs are Biblical

[Dave]

There are Seven Points to discuss here.
Robert – this is a test of your sincerity and honesty.
I expect an intelligent response to each section.

Point #1 – she is an academic – not a preacher
looking at the topic without the bias of religious belief
She is not to prove any one belief or endorse any one belief
She does believe and is a church going Catholic – some Jewish background

She is a Gnostic Christian by definition

She is – 1Th 5:19 Quench not the Spirit.
1Th 5:20 Despise not prophesyings.
1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

She is - 2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

She is - 1:52:00 academic – look at the text – what does it say – not what other people say about it

She is a Gnostic Christian by definition
She is not looking at the data as a Catholic, or a Baptist = just an honest investigator

She noticed people having EXPERIENCES- and wanted to know more
She studied many religions + the lexicon of current culture

She is a Gnostic Christian by definition
She is just a student of reality – and not afraid of looking at all of it as a whole


Point # 2 Catholic church history
6:00 – she found a lot of data on one topics that opened the door to UFO studies
7:45 ancient church records – look just like modern day UFO encounters
Church records talking about other beings and UFOs
11:50 not imaginary angels – but real creatures on the ground 3 feet tall and shining

Before Abram was called from Ur – the whole world was dominated by alien space gods
History is consistent – all through the ages – there have always been this “alien” presence
Judeo-Christian – since the beginning the BEAST / serpents / devils / demons / shedim / satanas
Islam - since the beginning the Jinn have always been with us
Gnostic – since the beginning the Archon have always been with us

Unable to describe what they saw – not quite sure of it shape - could be a demon or an angel
Angels – can appears as a multiplicity / plurality – 4 faces – 6 wings – transparent – or solid man
Archon - can appear in multiple ways – shapeshift
Gnostic – they are not 3D beings – they are inter-dimensional / intra-dimensional beings
How can 3D man describe something beyond explanation?
Answer – throughout history = could be a demon or an angel
Answer today = could be a demon or an angel – or UFO / alien

13:00 an angel or demon with a tool that examines her
13:25 – took the tool and thrusted it into her entrails
Modern day UFO abduction story - (She was probed)

14:00 miles of this information at the Vatican secret archives
History is filled with this same story – over and over – to much data to be ignored

Point #3 – the Roman Edit

She calls it the 22:50 – the instutionalzation of information –(Roman Edit)
The early Christian church were radically different then the “Roman Catholic church”

YES – the Pentecostal Messianic Jews left behind by Jesus Christ, and His disciples –
The original Christians –were—vastly different then Roman Catholicism
They were Pentecostal Messianic Jews led by the spirit
Not a congregation of sheep needing a Catholic Priest – a Catholic Church – and a Catholic intercessor

24:00 – what happen in the ‘institionalazation of belief’ - Roman Church does this in the 4th century
How do they do this – they vilify other Christian groups and call them heretical Gnostics
Burn away heretical gnostic teaching – destroy the evidence

The term – Roman Edit – doesn’t come from Bible Study but from History Class
All “surviving” literature / history = pro-Roman – or it was destroyed
No free speech in ancient Rome

Once the Catholic Church was married with the Roman Empire
Roman Catholic CENSORSHIP + Canonization began

Point #4 – what is Gnosticism
24:30 – what is Gnosticism – it is the form of Christianity before Rome instutionalized the belief
It is experiential - intimate knowledge
Almost eradicated by Rome
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Elle White movie made a big deal of
Act 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, …

Ellen White claimed 2000 visions from God
Ellen White claimed it was experiential - intimate knowledge
Ellen White even described out-of-body experience

Then she demands no one else can have this gift
If anyone says they have an experience they are not of God
Robert says it is satanic – mocks it – prays against it

24:30 – what is Gnosticism – it is the form of Christianity before Rome instutionalized the belief
It is experiential - intimate knowledge
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27:30 – why can’t an outside force govern the Jews – they already have a king and a law
Jesus claiming to the son of God = treason in the Roman empire
Boy I have said this many times
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Point #6 - 1:14:00 – the hierarchy of spiritual beings

God at the top
Angels below God
Then ‘off planet beings’ (principalities – archon)
Then factions in the intelligence community (Shadow governments)
Then man at the bottom

Judeo-Christian / Gnostic version
7th heaven – the Throne of God
6th angels
5th angels
4th angels
3rd angels – Jewish Eden
2nd guardian angels / shedim / archon / devils / demons / Jinn / principalities
1st – lower world – man

1:44 Jacques Valle – UFOS are inter-dimensional visitors – ancient time seen as demon and angels – today see as UFOs - Passport to Patagonia – Yes – amazing book
Just FYI – it is an amazing book
He was France’s version of Project Blue Book
In the movie – Close Encounters of the Third Kind – he was the French scientist
He was – little green men from planet x – until this book

Point #7 - 1:50:25 the history of satan
1:51:00 telephone game in texts – descriptions drift over time – cultural drift
The devil was taught differently before Christ – as he was after Christ – as he was during the Middle Ages – as he is today – just be honest

1:53:00 – the devil is the Catholic’s best friend because he keeps the church in business
Yes -that is why they invented him – to force dependency upon the church
Satan is elevated to a position greater than man – so man cannot resist on his own
Man needs help and Christ is gone leaving the church and its priest behind to help man

1:54:00 – satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not

This speaks directly against Roberts version –
Robert Method smash all the words of satan together to mean one thing
Then bend scripture (Job, Zec3) to fit his definition

satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not

Gnostic answer –
satan of Hebrew origin = an angel of the Lord working for the Lord
satans of Chaldean origin = the Beast of Revelation we call serpent – devils and satanas

Point #5 the ability to download
Robert – if I thought you were intelligent enough or open minded enough this would be an interesting discussion.

Where does inspiration and revelation come?
Newton – Tycho – Galileo – Einstein – Tesla – Edison - Elon Musk
When these guys wake up in the morning with a new idea – where did it come from?

Ponder this – information is being released to man – by God – throughout history – driving history

Example – Our history – begins post flood – we are not the beginning
Truth – there was a pre-flood global culture
Truth – there was a post ice age but pre modern era culture
Truth – there was a space alien serpent god world culture – BEFORE THE TORAH
Truth – Jesus Christ and the NT Gospel is another download from above

Just what is the correlation between prophesy fulfillment and technological progress?
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Just who is in control of this information flow?

156:00 – Niche – if your interested – synchronicity
Does God place things in your life on purpose – or is it all just coincidence
Gnostic answer – both –
coincidence is real and so is God placing people and things in our lives on purpose

More than one historian has said – it almost seem at times that world leaders look to scripture as a play book – if you are a Muslim you will absolutely agree

[rob]

Greetings Dave

This thread you post, I will reply this one time now.

You are basing this favorite topic of yours on many assumptions you have not proved to readers, and so you cannot present a presentation where the assumptions are not proved to readers first.

1) Where are your scholars that prove to readers the satanas being is a different being to Hebrew Satan , so called angel of the Lord?

2) You introduce the "angel" / Hebrew word "messenger" as the "archon". This is a bait and switch word game. You have not proved that authors using the word "angels" were ignorantly referring to archons by mistake. I think the authors were referring to angels, as the Hebrew word cherub is in fact an angel and a messenger.

I have never seen a Bible verse where "arche" is a "messenger" for GOD or a "cherub" or even mentioned as a created creature.

So these two assumptions are assumed true in this new thread you introduce, hence I will not discuss the discussion any more.

I have asked you over and over for scholars who agree with you and discussed your assumptions often but your brevity implies your theories have no substance.

Shalom

[Dave]

Dec 28, 2023 5:52:43 GMT -5 Dave said:

There are Seven Points to discuss here.
Robert – this is a test of your sincerity and honesty.
I expect an intelligent response to each section.

I have asked you over and over for scholars who agree with you and discussed your assumptions often but your brevity implies your theories have no substance.

Thank You for proving your sincerity and wilinginess to discuss anything honestly

[rob]

Greetings

I am happy to discuss your presentations, but your UFO presentation comes with unresolved assumptions from past presentations. So either you resolve the past presentations, or you continue to waste time.

I already support sinning angels pretending to be UFO gray people misleading humans as some superior rave of intellect.

This fact does not support your underlying assumptions. so stop changing the subject.


OK I will bite

Top Aerospace Scientists Suspect UFOs are Biblical Time Machines | Diana Walsh Pasulka
Danny Jones podcast – 2:36:00

Show me any transcript sentences she makes using the words "Archons" or "Satanas" in a sentence.

That would be a wonderful start to scholars supporting your view

and I would be so happy for you to read these sentences.

Shalom

[Dave]

Dec 31, 2023 18:06:13 GMT -5 Dave said:

Dec 28, 2023 5:52:43 GMT -5 Dave said:

There are Seven Points to discuss here.
Robert – this is a test of your sincerity and honesty.
I expect an intelligent response to each section.

I have asked you over and over for scholars who agree with you and discussed your assumptions often but your brevity implies your theories have no substance.

Thank You for proving your sincerity and wilinginess to discuss anything honestly

[rob]

Dave" I expect an intelligent response to each section

OK show me a transcript of her words.

Are you saying there is no transcript ? So I have to listen to her video?

You listened to her

Show me any transcript sentences she makes using the words "Archons" or "Satanas" in a sentence. Or show my from memory, does she speak using such words, can I expect such wonderful support of your view. Is this video worthy of my time.

I listened to Tabor, remember got nothing at all. When it this all going to end Dave?

Do you have her using the words "Archons" or "Satanas" ? If so I will listen...
Does she or does she not? Answer the question.

SHalom

[Dave]

Point #1 – the value of being an academic without bias
Looking at scripture with the baggage of church traditions – the Gnostic approach

Point #2 – the preponderance of evidence from Catholic church history
Specifically how the demon/alien/UFO phenomena has always been with us and Catholic history is filled with it – volumes and volumes

Point #3 – the Roman Edit – or what she calls – the instutionalzation of information
Very honest presentation

Point #4 – Her definition of what is Gnosticism
Very honest presentation

Point #6 - the hierarchy of spiritual beings
Specifically the realm of the ‘off planet beings’
+ Then factions in the intelligence community

Point #7 - the history of satan
Specifically - satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not
This speaks directly against Roberts version –
Robert Method smash all the words of satan together to mean one thing
Then bend OT scripture (Job, Zec3) to fit his definition

Dave" I expect an intelligent response to each section
As a test of your sincerity and honesty – willingness to participate

Are you saying there is no transcript ? So I have to listen to her video?
Don’t know if there is a transcript or not – look for one
I watched every minute of your suggested Ellen White video – took detailed notes
I times stamped each portion so you could easily look up each comment
But all you have are excuses

Show me any transcript sentences she makes using the words "Archons" or "Satanas" in a sentence.
satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not
+ the realm of the ‘off planet beings’
+ Then factions in the intelligence community

I listened to Tabor, remember got nothing at all. When it this all going to end Dave?
You said you listened only to 7 minutes of a 52 minute video
Were you lying then – or lying now?

[rob]

D" Don’t know if there is a transcript or not – look for one

R" I tried Dave, nice speaker, but 2 hours long video....

I listened to all the Tabor, but not at first

If you are going to find scholarly support Dave, make sure it is true.

I really don't think you have done your homework

If the video wasn't so long, but I am looking for her words "Archons" and "Satanas"

You remember Dave, does she speak these words or not?

Shalom

[Dave]

D" Don’t know if there is a transcript or not – look for one
R" I tried Dave, nice speaker, but 2 hours long video....

Jan 1, 2024 3:54:44 GMT -5 Dave said:

Don’t know if there is a transcript or not – look for one
I watched every minute of your suggested Ellen White video – took detailed notes
I times stamped each portion so you could easily look up each comment
But all you have are excuses

If the video wasn't so long, but I am looking for her words "Archons" and "Satanas"
You remember Dave, does she speak these words or not?

Jan 1, 2024 3:54:44 GMT -5 Dave said:

satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not
+ the realm of the ‘off planet beings’
+ Then factions in the intelligence community

I asked you to discuss these 6 points
Dave" I expect an intelligent response to each section
As a test of your sincerity and honesty – willingness to participate

Point #1 – the value of being an academic without bias
Looking at scripture with the baggage of church traditions – the Gnostic approach

Point #2 – the preponderance of evidence from Catholic church history
Specifically how the demon/alien/UFO phenomena has always been with us and Catholic history is filled with it – volumes and volumes

Point #3 – the Roman Edit – or what she calls – the instutionalzation of information
Very honest presentation

Point #4 – Her definition of what is Gnosticism
Very honest presentation

Point #6 - the hierarchy of spiritual beings
Specifically the realm of the ‘off planet beings’
+ Then factions in the intelligence community

Point #7 - the history of satan
Specifically - satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not
This speaks directly against Roberts version –
Robert Method smash all the words of satan together to mean one thing
Then bend OT scripture (Job, Zec3) to fit his definition

I asked you to discuss these 6 points
Dave" I expected an intelligent response to each section
As a test of your sincerity and honesty – willingness to participate
All of these points are issues between us
Your response = excuses
Your response - not honest or sincere
Your response - missing - dodge - avoide - fail to answer - just post resistance to everything
Your response - zero effort to be honest or sincere

I did not expect you to be able to have any intelligent input to a discussion of Synchronicity

[rob]

Greetings Dave

I am supposed to listen for 2 hours?

Is this another useful thing for me to see others supporting your views? Or a desparate attempt like your Tabor and now your source document?

Point #1 – the value of being an academic without bias
Looking at scripture with the baggage of church traditions – the Gnostic approach

I listened to her a bit, she claims to believe in GOD, has religious views etc.
So all humans come with bias, and thus we have filter glasses over our eyes.
Only AI machines are purely objective, but such machines lack inference, which only humans can do.

Point #2 – the preponderance of evidence from Catholic church history
Specifically how the demon/alien/UFO phenomena has always been with us and Catholic history is filled with it – volumes and volumes

I already support the idea that UFO exist.

Point #3 – the Roman Edit – or what she calls – the instutionalization of information
Very honest presentation

OK so she is honest, but 2 hours is a long time Dave, I am a reader, not very good at listening in a social context.

Point #4 – Her definition of what is Gnosticism
Very honest presentation

Your take on Gnosticism is different to the broader views of Gnosticism. Is what she presents exactly the same as your view? So she supports you? Can you say yes to this?

Point #6 - the hierarchy of spiritual beings
Specifically the realm of the ‘off planet beings’
+ Then factions in the intelligence community

Rob" whatever this means

Point #7 - the history of satan
Specifically - satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not

This speaks directly against Roberts version –
Robert Method smash all the words of satan together to mean one thing
Then bend OT scripture (Job, Zec3) to fit his definition

Dave my friend, the Hebrew word STN means to oppose/opposer for all verses of context.
This is how any word meaning is obtained. NOT the GORDON method like DAVE method, allow the bulk of verses to dictate word meaning and ignore the ones that don't.

So for example "amanuah" means "mental assent" ignoring Exodus 17:12 . This is NOT how establishing word meanings works. The torah says line upon line, all verses have to be used, not just the bulk of verses.

The plumb bob verse also tells you to line up the verses, not as Dave suggests toss them out. The stone the builders rejected is recorded in Scripture showing Jews read scripture like this also.

is this some other video of her views with less time Dave, I see dozens of her videos, Can't you select a shorter one?

Shalom

[Dave]

I am supposed to listen for 2 hours?
Excuse – I gave you the time stamps for each discussion
Is this another useful thing for me to see others supporting your views?
If you choose not to participate – leave this forum

Point #1 – the value of being an academic without bias
I listened to her a bit, she claims to believe in GOD, has religious views etc.
So all humans come with bias, and thus we have filter glasses over our eyes.
You did not listen to her point

Point #2 – the preponderance of evidence from Catholic church history
Specifically how the demon/alien/UFO phenomena has always been with us and Catholic history is filled with it – volumes and volumes

I already support the idea that UFO exist.
Good to see your views change over time – if this is true why did you argue so hard the opposite

Point #3 – the Roman Edit – or what she calls – the instutionalization of information
Very honest presentation

OK so she is honest, but 2 hours is a long time Dave,
I included the time stamps – all you respond with are whining excuses

Point #4 – Her definition of what is Gnosticism
Very honest presentation
Is what she presents exactly the same as your view?
You didn’t listen to her

Point #6 - the hierarchy of spiritual beings
Specifically the realm of the ‘off planet beings’
+ Then factions in the intelligence community
Rob" whatever this means
WOW – such deep observations – so serious – so academic

Point #7 - the history of satan
Specifically - satan in the bible – not a consistent image – sometimes God’s friend – sometimes not

This speaks directly against Roberts version –
Robert Method smash all the words of satan together to mean one thing
Then bend OT scripture (Job, Zec3) to fit his definition

Dave my friend, the Hebrew word STN means to oppose/opposer for all verses of context.
SO – how does this statement support or deny the reality that there are two satans within scripture – one of them God’s friend – one of them not.

[rob]

Greetings Dave

I like what you presented, seems like many people over the years called them by different names. OK I will buy this.

You say this 2 hour video is worth watching? O boy...

"Top Aerospace Scientists Suspect UFOs are Biblical Time Machines”

OK when I get time...

I look forward to listening to some support for your view...

Shalom

[Dave]

"Top Aerospace Scientists Suspect UFOs are Biblical Time Machines”
You say this 2 hour video is worth watching? O boy...
OK when I get time...

More than a week ago I asked you to please spend 8 to 10 minutes with this video
I asked you to address 7 points from this video - included a time stamp for each
It was too much of ask of you

Your willingness to participate is missing

[rob]

OK Dave

I listened to over 40 minutes, hard to fathom with her words, but I tried to record what I could

Top Aerospace Scientists Suspect UFOs are Biblical Time Machines | Diana Walsh Pasulka
Danny Jones podcast – 2:36:00

religion is a powerful force
we are academics, so were are learning about religion, I personally believe in God
I got a degree from Jesuit College
How I got into studying UFO, not out to prove UFO, I study the impact UFO have on people
People are impacted by how they are brought up
Parents are eclectic culture, Father Irish Roman Catholic, Mother was Jewish
Interested why UFO shifted people's behaviour
like the force is with you.
People had exact experience from long long ago recorded in books.
For example
Catholic she had an angel she thought, (1500 AD in Spain), was praying and off to side, a being, 3 feet tall and shiny. Not an angel in her imagination but some cherub,, a type of angel, little angel.
"took dart and thrust into her entrails" examined her?
lots of them in sceret archives in Vatican
22:51 explain Pentagon reports, publishing videos, misinformation and energy into mudding the waters.
Why is Pentagon making more on this?
Institutionalize in 4 century, make other beliefs heritable
, Gnostic is form of CHristianitu sprang up... knowlesdge people have, HS ... take the chocolate by eating it or knowing the ingredients on the back?
Insntitutionalizing this belief.
Why so much misinformation.
Jewish in first century hard, also Zealots armed Jews,
Jesus talked in parables, OK with people not listening to him. Disciples loved him so much called him the SOn of God, but Romans had Cesear as the Son of God
This is treason.
Who was God?
Apollo or Zeus, pathesism idea
competing divinities
USA talk as UFO as technology but not religion
Catholics say they have access to divinity
Secular is not religious
30:15 I just book what I see, the data
bring in secuar idea of UFO, men in black to cover it up ...
smell of sulphur and cloven feet, movie was biased
talk about cognitive technology in my book
James Fox alien?
looking at data we are biased because of expected perceptions... the media focuses on certain encounters, and people are swayed by this.
40:42 Nite Cap took the flying saucer report, but not the parking saucer on the street.
gray man from Australia, of a machine hovering above him... experiences of this ...


Now you wanted me to answer some questions :-

Point #1 – the value of being an academic without bias
Looking at scripture with the baggage of church traditions – the Gnostic approach

R" She says religion is a powerful force
So all people come with filters over their eyes, she included she says


Point #2 – the preponderance of evidence from Catholic church history
Specifically how the demon/alien/UFO phenomena has always been with us and Catholic history is filled with it – volumes and volumes

R" She does talks about data, sure lots of data in the secret Vatican archives
Not interested in proving anything, she is a science person recording data.

Point #3 – the Roman Edit – or what she calls – the instutionalzation of information
Very honest presentation

She does not call it a ROman Edit. She speaks of the clash of Jesus and the disciples calling Him the SOn of God, but Ceasar is a SOn of God, so clash here. Treason

She also says after a while churches make inherited doctrines upon people, force all people to comply with basic ideas... (I would hardly call this a ROman Edit, but I get your drift)

Point #4 – Her definition of what is Gnosticism
Very honest presentation

"Eating a chocolate bar, or reading the ingredients on the back?"

She says very little about Gnosticism (about 10 seconds)

Point #6 - the hierarchy of spiritual beings
Specifically the realm of the ‘off planet beings’
+ Then factions in the intelligence community

I listened to the gray man from Australia...

===============stopped listening=============

Question: Does this speaker use the words "archons" or "Satanas" or "any other words" to allude to your theory Dave?

My feeling from her speaking is NO.

She is a science person collecting data, and is not interested in forming all this data into some religion or belief system. I may be wrong but I suspect the rest of the 1 hour, will be much the same as the first.

I would find a video that supports your religion, using "archons" and "satanas" or "some other words" that Satan as a good angel and the Shedim are the bad guys. However I did enjoy listening to her, but found her hard to fathom, she speaks fast, and the movies, experiences, etc, hard to record, but I did my best

SHalom