Personal Responsibility

[Dave]

One of the most common things I hear from Christians - don't study so much - just stick to the doctrine of my Christian fathers.

Let's say I grew up Amish - and I join to the church
First I learn that the Jews had 613 laws
Then I learn all the rule of the Amish
No electricity, no cars, no phones, no education, no fashion
and idle hands are the devils playground, so I worked myself to sleep every day
But all this obedience didn't feel right in my heart

So I went to a local brick and mortar church
It had a steeple and they played beautiful music
But as a Baptist - I learned that mortal men do not stand a change and we will burn in hell fire along side of Dante in his Inferno
This didn't feel right in my heart

Next week - I went to the other brick and mortar church in town
But in the Kingdom Hall - I learned that earth is heaven - God made it for man
and Jesus returned to earth in 1879, I mean 1914, I mean 1916, well by 1925 anyway

The week after that I went to the next town to another brick and mortar church
During the service two people began to roll on the floor and another two started to babble in strange tongues

Finally I met a girl that rescued me and took me to her church with her family
They were all praising the lord with their songs
They were the nicest people - very Biblical - no coffee, tea, or cigarettes
So Biblical that they called one another thee and thy - brother and sister
Then I find out that my new girlfriend has 22 siblings - wow
How did your mom have 22 kids? - She didn't! Her mom only had 6 children
but her mom was wife number three of six
Then they all all put on their special underwear for Temple

I escape all this religious craziness and head to the big city
In Chicago there was a huge church complex - I had to go in
it was so relaxed - Jesus was just a man - a prophet
This was nothing like the doctrine of my fathers

So I flew to the other end of America
There in downtown Hollywood - right on the walk of fame
Is the tallest building on that block - The Church of Scientology
I tried to get in - but the police said, some were in jail, and all were under investigation by the Department of Justice, and the FBI

So, I step out on my own - seeking as David did in the wilderness
Walking as John the Baptist did alone in the wilderness
I started this ministry - the option to become a 501C3 tax shelter and beg for your donation was so lucrative, how could I resist. I have a church charter. If I became a church, I could donate all my income to charity - me. Then pay me next to nothing to manage the church / fellowship.

But the more I thought of it - the more I hated the idea
I have been in church board meetings quarreling about money and power
As I began to "put myself out there" - the full weight of false teachings
and false teachers bears on me.

But in print - I will - 1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

I chose to become a father at the age of 52
- the full weight of false teachings and false teachers bears on me. Even more

This is why I am here - to explore it all
Hopefully - testing / proving it in print by a multitude of Seekers - will introduce us all to new and different ways of looking at the same old question

[Dave]

I just came up with this graphic the other day
but it perfectly represents the value of a Gnostic cosmology

Under the traditional Roman Christendom's / Judeo-Christian Heritage
Almost none of our current cultural reality is compatible with Roman mythology
Who wins that argument? Cultural reality or a church that is silent

huerfanoworldjournal.com/cattle-mutilation-right-by-the-highway/

This happen just 12 mile west of me. I know all the county staff involved.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cattle_mutilation
Democratic senator Floyd K. Haskell contacted the FBI asking for help in 1975 due to public concern regarding the issue. He claimed there had been 130 mutilations in Colorado alone, and further reports across nine states.[8] A 1979 FBI report indicated that, according to investigations by the New Mexico State Police, there had been an estimated 8,000 mutilations in Colorado, causing approximately $1,000,000 damage.[9]

You cannot go to church around here without hearing something

Not one Pastor in town will preach about it - because they don't know what to say
How could something like this be explained by the church?
Today - for some reason - the church has no answer

Why - because they have an incomplete cosmology



Yet - a few hundred years ago the church knew full well the answer
demons - witchcraft - Archon
A few hundred years ago the demonology of the church was cultural reality

Gnostic cosmology is unifying - there is only one base theology - all creation must point to the Creator

[Larry]

Are you tell us not to church?

[Dave]

Not at all - the local corner church serve a most important role
If someone wants to begin their quest - they need someplace to start

Church is like a theatrical play

You join the group and meet the director
At first you don't know what your doing - you are learning your role
Over and over you perform the same play

Jews follow the law
At first they do it because they have to
over and over they perform the same rituals

Eventually - they learn the point of the pageant
Jews wake up from the Law - and comply out of respect and Love for the Lord
Christians wake up from the mythology of Roman commentary and respect and love the Lord

This should be be a growth process for most of us
Sure God cam reach down and USE anyone He wants
The Holy Spirit can baptize any that ask
But for most of us - it is a growth process

1- Some check in - become leaders - go one to seminary - go on to mission fields - shepherd flocks of their own

2- Others 'check in, but never leave (Hotel California) - stuck in their pew - trapped still learning John 3:16 for the 40th straight year

3- Some get bored and leave - some are told they are terrible rotten sinners and leave - some are made to feel unwelcome

4- Some graduate on to a personal walk - as David did in the wilderness

It is hard to listen to the Lord and hear His message when:
Pastor A says one thing and Pastor B says another
Church A says one thing and church B says another

Today, I listen to Pastor A and B, I also read C and D
Then I take it to the Lord in prayer

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