Post by Dave on Dec 16, 2022 7:04:58 GMT -5
We have already shown you that your theology is supported only by Gnostic writings and NOT the Hebrew OT/NT torah.
1- Who is we - do you have others helping you to be an SDA?
Do you have a team arrayed against me and mainstream Christianity?
2- The Reality of the Archon = 100% Jewish Demonology – King Solomon – beelzebul and his shedim
3- agl/NT satanas is 100% identified as Jewish Demonology Beelzebub and his shedim by Jesus Christ
4 - agl/NT Beast of Revelation = 100% the serpent race that we call devils and satanas
5 - agl/NY Reality of the Archon = 100% agl/NT Beast of Revelation
6 – you deny the correlation between Jewish Demonology and the Islamic Jinn of the ‘other gods’ of the Levant
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1 John 3:8 says humans sin like the SHAD sins, and both sin moral sins.
1Jn 3:8 The one who practices sin is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. Ben-Elohim appeared for this purpose—to destroy the works of the devil.
1 John 3:8 says – any man that sins – is like (simile) the devil
1 John 3:8 says – the devil (agl/NT BEAST of Revelation) has been sinning since the beginning
NO WHERE DOES THIS VERS SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MORALITY – you just add that assumption all by yourself
I originally answered you – this is Azazal / sananili / ben elohiym/ archon of Gen 6
You had a screaming fit – Gen 6 IS NOT THE BEGINNING
But then teach that your satan as Ezk 28 PERFECT and friends with God in the beginning – and sinned later
It is wrong if I say it – then you offer it back as your own valid point
Rev 12:1 is the moments of creation
Rev 12:3 the BEAST just appeared (IN THE BEGINNING) - ready to devour
SINNING AGAINST THE ENTIRITY – atoms –molecules – dirt – rocks – stars – and planets
ready to devour – atoms –molecules – dirt – rocks – stars – and planets
AND GOD SEPERATED THE LIGHT FROM THE DARKNESS
Gen 1:3 Then God said, “Let there be light!” and there was light.
Gen 1:4 God saw that the light was good. So God distinguished the light from the darkness.
AND GOD SEPERATED THE LIGHT FROM THE DARKNESS
Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven,
Rev 12:8 but they were not strong enough, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down—the ancient serpent, called the devil and satan, who deceives the whole world.
YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER – WHY DID GOD CALL IT TOV? – Gen 1:31
Gen 1:31 So God saw everything that He made, and behold it was very good.
YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT – THIS IS GOD’s CREATION – HE DID IT – HIS DESIGN – HIS PLAN – HIS WILL
THE CONTEST
Gen 3:15 I will put animosity between you and the woman—between your seed and her seed.
THE CONTEST - YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT – GOD DID IT – HIS DESIGN – HIS PLAN – HIS WILL
The HARDSHIP – you refuse to admit – God did it – established it – put it in motion
OUR REAL STRUGGLE (Eph 6:12) – you refuse to admit it – CREATED BY GOD FOR GOD (Col 1:16)
BUT your Gnostic teachings refuse to admit SHAD do moral sins, so your teachings make the term into "ignorance"
YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER – IF what happened in Gen 1:2 is a sin – why did God call it tov (Gen 1:31)
Jude and Peter say the ‘sinning angels’ are all locked away – if they are talking about Gen 1:2 then you have no demons – they are all locked away
YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER – YOU PRETEND SCRIPTURE SAYS SOMETHING ELSE
Jewish and Gnostic teachings ADMIT SHAD committed moral sins at GEN 6
agl/NT and Gnostic teaching say these WATCHERS of ENOCH are locked away –
while the rest of the BEAST SERPENT RACE CONTINUES TO PLAGUE MAN
I don't need to write anything else, because Gnostic teachings fail to account for the false elohiym powers that morally sin,
ABSOLUTE MISSREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS
But after all this discussion – it cannot be a misrepresentation by error out of ignorance
NOW YOU ARE JUST PROMOTING LIES
The SHAD are written in the royal torah, the ten commandments that no creature is to worship them as false elohiym powers, thus the SHAD morally sin.
that the first of the ten commandments laws apply to.
Mat 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick by one and look down on the other. You cannot serve God and money.”
MONEY IS NOT A SPIRITUAL GOD – IT IS WORLDLY WEALTH, POWER, - (WORLD)
G3126 - μαμμωνᾶς
Of Chaldee origin (confidence, that is, figuratively wealth, personified)
false elohiym powers – are not always demons – are not always archon – are NOT always SHAD
ANYTHING YOU PRAY TO / WORSHIP THAT IS NOT THE CREATOR = a false god to you
Caesar was NOT a demon spirit – he was just an arrogant man
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But again you deny that the serpent sinned, tempting Eve to sin. Even Jeff Benner agrees the serpent sinned tempting Eve to sin, by saying that the serpent deceived Eve by twisting the truth, is the same idea as presenting a false report, which the judgements in Exodus 21 term a moral sin of lying.
ABSOLUTE MISSREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS
But after all this discussion – it cannot be a misrepresentation by error out of ignorance
NOW YOU ARE JUST PROMOTING LIES
We have been all over Jeff’s study – entire thread here dedicated just to it
JEFF BRENNER SAYS THE SERPENT DID NOT LIE
Show me your verse that equates deception with sin
1 - #1 form of education in America – “Entering without knocking”
Do you tell your child – Mom and Dad are having sex – or do you say something else – why is that a sin?
2 – Military deception in battle is a common tool – why is it a sin for Israel to fool it’s enemy
YOU ARE SO SICK WITH YOUR EVIL CATHOLIC SIN – YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER
Gen 2:17 – God told Adam – if you eat it you will (mûth mûth)
Gen 3:4 And the serpent saith unto the woman, 'Dying, ye do not die, (NOT mûth mûth)
The only way the serpent is lying is if there is NO REPENTANCE – NO FORGIVENESS – NO SALVATION
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R" There is nothing the torah cannot answer, but you deny this. I do not rely on secular material, so why did you post this? I am sola scriptoria. You are not.
CORRECT – you are 100% Roman Catholic Textus Receptus – fallen angels and all – and you elevate your satan to godhood
R" There is nothing the torah cannot answer, but you deny this.
Show me where the Torah teaches us how to make nuclear weapons
R" There is nothing the torah cannot answer
Then why do you refuse to answer my question to you?
Instead – I get ‘I dunno’ – to hard – we are not to study the hard parts – or you just ignore the questions
1 John 3:8 says humans sin like the SHAD sins, and both sin moral sins.
We have been all through both the ahl and the agl – in each verse the oppose id serving God and opposing man – why do you call it a moral sin to obey God?
God Himself called what happened in Rev 12:7 / Gen 1:3 as tov (Gen 1:31) Oops!
And now that you cling to 1 John 3:8 – Ezk 28 all perfect and nice in the beginning is also error
YOU PREACH CONTRADICTION
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We have been through much together, but you do not wish to change your view,
NO ROBERT – I WILL NEVER BE A CATHOLIC SATAN BELIEVER
nor do you acknowledge you are wrong in reading the torah as you do.
CORRECT – I do not read the ahl/OT as Ellen White tells you to
IN FACT – through 5000 years of history – only the Millerites read the scripture as Ellen White does
There are several verses you cannot answer,
BRING IT ON SATAN BOY – which one of us refuses to answer direct questions?
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D"I do not trust your secular material like you do.
Because all the evidence - all the facts - all the data is inconsistent with your satanology
ALL THE WORLD TESTIFIES TO THE ONE TRUE CREATOR – Rome 1:19-20 + Psa 19:2
If you do NOT see the hand of God in every math book – every physics text – every Chemistry class – and in all the biology around you – then you are just NOT paying attention
1- Who is we - do you have others helping you to be an SDA?
Do you have a team arrayed against me and mainstream Christianity?
2- The Reality of the Archon = 100% Jewish Demonology – King Solomon – beelzebul and his shedim
3- agl/NT satanas is 100% identified as Jewish Demonology Beelzebub and his shedim by Jesus Christ
4 - agl/NT Beast of Revelation = 100% the serpent race that we call devils and satanas
5 - agl/NY Reality of the Archon = 100% agl/NT Beast of Revelation
6 – you deny the correlation between Jewish Demonology and the Islamic Jinn of the ‘other gods’ of the Levant
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1 John 3:8 says humans sin like the SHAD sins, and both sin moral sins.
1Jn 3:8 The one who practices sin is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. Ben-Elohim appeared for this purpose—to destroy the works of the devil.
1 John 3:8 says – any man that sins – is like (simile) the devil
1 John 3:8 says – the devil (agl/NT BEAST of Revelation) has been sinning since the beginning
NO WHERE DOES THIS VERS SAY ANYTHING ABOUT MORALITY – you just add that assumption all by yourself
I originally answered you – this is Azazal / sananili / ben elohiym/ archon of Gen 6
You had a screaming fit – Gen 6 IS NOT THE BEGINNING
But then teach that your satan as Ezk 28 PERFECT and friends with God in the beginning – and sinned later
It is wrong if I say it – then you offer it back as your own valid point
Rev 12:1 is the moments of creation
Rev 12:3 the BEAST just appeared (IN THE BEGINNING) - ready to devour
SINNING AGAINST THE ENTIRITY – atoms –molecules – dirt – rocks – stars – and planets
ready to devour – atoms –molecules – dirt – rocks – stars – and planets
AND GOD SEPERATED THE LIGHT FROM THE DARKNESS
Gen 1:3 Then God said, “Let there be light!” and there was light.
Gen 1:4 God saw that the light was good. So God distinguished the light from the darkness.
AND GOD SEPERATED THE LIGHT FROM THE DARKNESS
Rev 12:7 And war broke out in heaven,
Rev 12:8 but they were not strong enough, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down—the ancient serpent, called the devil and satan, who deceives the whole world.
YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER – WHY DID GOD CALL IT TOV? – Gen 1:31
Gen 1:31 So God saw everything that He made, and behold it was very good.
YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT – THIS IS GOD’s CREATION – HE DID IT – HIS DESIGN – HIS PLAN – HIS WILL
THE CONTEST
Gen 3:15 I will put animosity between you and the woman—between your seed and her seed.
THE CONTEST - YOU REFUSE TO ADMIT – GOD DID IT – HIS DESIGN – HIS PLAN – HIS WILL
The HARDSHIP – you refuse to admit – God did it – established it – put it in motion
OUR REAL STRUGGLE (Eph 6:12) – you refuse to admit it – CREATED BY GOD FOR GOD (Col 1:16)
BUT your Gnostic teachings refuse to admit SHAD do moral sins, so your teachings make the term into "ignorance"
YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER – IF what happened in Gen 1:2 is a sin – why did God call it tov (Gen 1:31)
Jude and Peter say the ‘sinning angels’ are all locked away – if they are talking about Gen 1:2 then you have no demons – they are all locked away
YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER – YOU PRETEND SCRIPTURE SAYS SOMETHING ELSE
Jewish and Gnostic teachings ADMIT SHAD committed moral sins at GEN 6
agl/NT and Gnostic teaching say these WATCHERS of ENOCH are locked away –
while the rest of the BEAST SERPENT RACE CONTINUES TO PLAGUE MAN
I don't need to write anything else, because Gnostic teachings fail to account for the false elohiym powers that morally sin,
ABSOLUTE MISSREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS
But after all this discussion – it cannot be a misrepresentation by error out of ignorance
NOW YOU ARE JUST PROMOTING LIES
The SHAD are written in the royal torah, the ten commandments that no creature is to worship them as false elohiym powers, thus the SHAD morally sin.
that the first of the ten commandments laws apply to.
Mat 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will stick by one and look down on the other. You cannot serve God and money.”
MONEY IS NOT A SPIRITUAL GOD – IT IS WORLDLY WEALTH, POWER, - (WORLD)
G3126 - μαμμωνᾶς
Of Chaldee origin (confidence, that is, figuratively wealth, personified)
false elohiym powers – are not always demons – are not always archon – are NOT always SHAD
ANYTHING YOU PRAY TO / WORSHIP THAT IS NOT THE CREATOR = a false god to you
Caesar was NOT a demon spirit – he was just an arrogant man
----------------------
But again you deny that the serpent sinned, tempting Eve to sin. Even Jeff Benner agrees the serpent sinned tempting Eve to sin, by saying that the serpent deceived Eve by twisting the truth, is the same idea as presenting a false report, which the judgements in Exodus 21 term a moral sin of lying.
ABSOLUTE MISSREPRESENTATION OF THE FACTS
But after all this discussion – it cannot be a misrepresentation by error out of ignorance
NOW YOU ARE JUST PROMOTING LIES
We have been all over Jeff’s study – entire thread here dedicated just to it
JEFF BRENNER SAYS THE SERPENT DID NOT LIE
Show me your verse that equates deception with sin
1 - #1 form of education in America – “Entering without knocking”
Do you tell your child – Mom and Dad are having sex – or do you say something else – why is that a sin?
2 – Military deception in battle is a common tool – why is it a sin for Israel to fool it’s enemy
YOU ARE SO SICK WITH YOUR EVIL CATHOLIC SIN – YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER
Gen 2:17 – God told Adam – if you eat it you will (mûth mûth)
Gen 3:4 And the serpent saith unto the woman, 'Dying, ye do not die, (NOT mûth mûth)
The only way the serpent is lying is if there is NO REPENTANCE – NO FORGIVENESS – NO SALVATION
--------------------------------
R" There is nothing the torah cannot answer, but you deny this. I do not rely on secular material, so why did you post this? I am sola scriptoria. You are not.
CORRECT – you are 100% Roman Catholic Textus Receptus – fallen angels and all – and you elevate your satan to godhood
Jun 6, 2020 at 9:55am robertt said:
Yes I have two Kings and two gods opposing each other.
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Jul 12, 2022 at 7:09am robertt said:
The Great Controversy is a spiritual battle, a conflict over God's character and His right to rule the universe.
GOD’S RIGHT TO RULE THE UNIVERSE?
R" Have you never read the oppose's objective?
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
The opposer wishes to replace the Father as a ruler
Yes I have two Kings and two gods opposing each other.
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Jul 12, 2022 at 7:09am robertt said:
The Great Controversy is a spiritual battle, a conflict over God's character and His right to rule the universe.
GOD’S RIGHT TO RULE THE UNIVERSE?
R" Have you never read the oppose's objective?
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
The opposer wishes to replace the Father as a ruler
R" There is nothing the torah cannot answer, but you deny this.
Show me where the Torah teaches us how to make nuclear weapons
R" There is nothing the torah cannot answer
Then why do you refuse to answer my question to you?
Instead – I get ‘I dunno’ – to hard – we are not to study the hard parts – or you just ignore the questions
1 John 3:8 says humans sin like the SHAD sins, and both sin moral sins.
We have been all through both the ahl and the agl – in each verse the oppose id serving God and opposing man – why do you call it a moral sin to obey God?
All your "hoo har" over 49 verses verses 23, doesn't matter, I need only one verse, apart from Ezek, I have Rev 12. There was war in heaven?
And now that you cling to 1 John 3:8 – Ezk 28 all perfect and nice in the beginning is also error
YOU PREACH CONTRADICTION
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We have been through much together, but you do not wish to change your view,
NO ROBERT – I WILL NEVER BE A CATHOLIC SATAN BELIEVER
nor do you acknowledge you are wrong in reading the torah as you do.
CORRECT – I do not read the ahl/OT as Ellen White tells you to
IN FACT – through 5000 years of history – only the Millerites read the scripture as Ellen White does
There are several verses you cannot answer,
BRING IT ON SATAN BOY – which one of us refuses to answer direct questions?
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D"I do not trust your secular material like you do.
Because all the evidence - all the facts - all the data is inconsistent with your satanology
ALL THE WORLD TESTIFIES TO THE ONE TRUE CREATOR – Rome 1:19-20 + Psa 19:2
If you do NOT see the hand of God in every math book – every physics text – every Chemistry class – and in all the biology around you – then you are just NOT paying attention