Post by Dave on Oct 8, 2022 9:54:09 GMT -5
The Book of Enoch Banned from The Bible Reveals Shocking Secrets Of Our History!
13:28 min
I think this video is a fair treatment of the Book of Enoch
It was never consider “inspired” by anyone – but always a full part of the Temple Scroll Library
12:20 min into the video - THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMENT = it was well know at the time of Christ – common knowledge
Regardless of author – much of Enoch finds its way into the New Testament agl
Quoted 64 times – second only to Isaiah at 68 times
Jude refers to the Prophesy of Enoch as fact
THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMENT = it is THE CONTEXT of Jesus Christ – and the Gospel
1:10 – The Book is primarily discredited because it teaches about the Nephilim of Gen 6:1-4
1:16 – The book was lost – then rediscovered in the 4th century and later makes the claim it was written in 200 AD – after Jesus Christ
This is misleading
(google) When was the Book of Jude written
Date. The date of composition is not known, but is loosely speculated to be between the years 50 and 110. Among those who favor the authorship of the Jude mentioned in the gospels, the letter is generally placed before the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD.
To be used by Jesus Christ – quoted in the Gospels – it MUST predate Jesus Christ – DUH
From a Western Roman perspective the Book was lost
Why – the destruction of the Temple and its library
But the Preface of my copy as – of Egyptian origin (Coptic) cira 200 BC
What was found in the 4th century – the 2nd Book of Enoch – also called the Slavic Enoch
1:23 – Ethiopian Christians are the only Christians to include Enoch in their text
Hmmm – misleading –
1- Ethiopian Christian are Coptic – all Egyptian Coptics include Enoch in their broader cannon
2- Dead Sea Scrolls – Jewish religious group – Essenes (John the Baptist)
3- Jewish temple Scroll
POINT – Enoch was Methuselah father – this video makes the point that he was the oldest living man
Judeo-Christianity also make the point Methuselah was also the wisest man to ever live
(because he was closest to the writings of Enoch – who gave his writings to his sons – DUH)
2nd Book of Enoch – Slavic Enoch
48: 5 From the invisible he made all things visible, himself being invisible.
6 Thus I make known to you, my children, and distribute the books to your children, into all your generations, and amongst the nations who shall have the sense to fear God, let them receive them, and may they come to love them more than any food or earthly sweets, and read them and apply themselves to them.
7 And those who understand not the Lord, who fear not God, who accept not, but reject, who do not receive them (sc. the books), a terrible judgement awaits these.
8 Blessed is the man who shall bear their yoke and shall drag them along, for he shall be released on the day of the great judgement.
2:45 – Enoch’s message = God’s judgment upon the earth
2:50 – Enoch → Noah
Jewish legend – God gave Noah the ‘Book of Treasures’ written and brought back from heaven – Noah used the secretes within the Book in the construction of the ark
(instructions on how to make ‘gopher wood’ a lamination process?)
3:10 – Dead Sea Scrolls – validation – Context of Jesus Christ and the Gospel
4:50 – Nephilim - Dave’s word study – Ponder
H5303 נְפִיל nphiyl (nef-eel') n-m.
נְפִל nphil (nef-eel')
(properly) a feller, i.e. a bully or tyrant.
Root word
H5307 - נָפַל - A primitive root; to fall,
Roman Christianity make this to mean Fallen Ones
But examine how the Nephilim are used with scripture – they cause others to fall – they are the causers/instigators/insighters that make man fall
5:20 – to the question – Robert’s question – how could purely spiritual angles reproduce with mortal women
Gnostic answer – the archon are not spiritual angels – they are Beast made with some matter
Evidently it is enough matter to allow the mating
5:37 – the ‘sons of god’ are Sethites – other men that are decedents of Cain - Robert’s teaching
Seth is an Egyptian god – an ‘other god’ of the ahl = archon/shedim
St Augustine = Roman catholic and other ‘Roman’ church fathers
6:10 – The Second Part of Enoch’s book = Jesus Christ
“Remarkably close to the agl/NT – and right on with the Book of Revelation”
6:40 – The prophesy of Weeks = Dainiles prophesy
7:14 – MYSTERIES – CONTRODICTIONS WITH THE BIBLE
#1- Enoch speaks as if he knew Noah
John wrote of the future
Moses wrote of the future
Isaiah wrote of the future
Daniel – Ezekiel – Micah – Joel – David wrote of the future
7:48 – the Bible never says that Enoch returned to earth after his accention
Correct – Enoch does – brought information back to his son to teach mankind – then accended
8:00 – God places all the blame of the corruption on earth onto an angel name Azazal – the leader of the Gen 6 bane elohiym
End result of Roman Catholicism = Hebrew satan ends up with the blame
Robert’s verse 1 John 3:8 – the devil sinneth from the beginning
#2 - 8:40 – does Enoch say the ‘fallen angels’ repented
readingacts.com/2016/06/03/enoch-pleads-with-the-watchers-1-enoch-12-16/
Enoch Pleads with the Watchers – 1 Enoch 12-16
Phillip J. Long - June 3, 2016
Enoch is worshiping God in prayer, he is told to go to the Watchers who have “abandoned the high heaven” and “defiled themselves with women” and tell them of the destruction to come. This is not a warning which carries with it a chance of repentance: Enoch is announcing to these Watchers they will be in a place where they will “groan and beg forever over the destruction of their children, and there shall not be peace for them even forever” (verse 6).
In chapter 13 Enoch goes to Azazel and tells him the judgment which God has planned. All of these Watchers are seized with great fear and beg Enoch to write out a prayer of forgiveness to the Lord of Heaven. Enoch intends to do this, so he sits by the waters of Dan near Mount Hermon, where the Watchers first descended to earth. Dan is an ancient city at the headwaters of the Jordan near Mount Hermon. Enoch falls asleep and has a dream. After he awakens, he … reprimand to the Watchers ...
The content of Enoch’s dream is the subject of 1 Enoch 14-16. In 14:1-7 Enoch tells the Watchers their prayers have not been heard and they will be punished for all eternity
8:40 – does Enoch say the ‘fallen angels’ repented
I never got that impression – I agree with Phillip J. Long
Also in agreement with the agl/NT – Mat 25:41
#3 - 9:55 – Bible - the street of heaven made of gold as transparent glass
Enoch – it was of crystal
WOW – is it a diamond or just cut glass – what a stupid argument
#4 – Enoch mapped and counted all the stars - Scripture – Jer – says no one can
Rebuttal – Enoch is doing it from heaven – who knows what he saw - spiritual
Roberts might say “he” was counting angels – and Jer is talking about stars in the sky – i.e physical
#5 – Wind, snow, haul, and the moon come off a wooden platform in heaven
The Book is NOT inspired – subject to corruption
Robert makes the claim that its poetry – a simile – or mataphore
11:25 – Enoch is a summary of the entire Judeo-Christian Bible all in one Book
It is NOT inspired- yet
12:20 min into the video - THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMENT = it was well know at the time of Christ – common knowledge
Regardless of author – much of Enoch finds its way into the New Testament agl
Quoted 64 times – second only to Isaiah at 68 times
Jude refers to the Prophesy of Enoch as fact
THE MOST IMPORTANT COMMENT = it is THE CONTEXT of Jesus Christ – and the Gospel