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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 5:20:52 GMT -5
D" Eze 28:15 You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you. Ezk denies your post – the sinner of Ezk 28 was perfect from the beginning
R" Can't you read? The creature was sinless until the free will of the creature decided to sin.
The rest of your post is a side line issue, making excuse.
The NT clearly says the shedim sin like humans sin.
Do you Dave agree with this statement, that John makes in the NT ?
SHalom
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Post by Dave on Oct 17, 2022 6:29:50 GMT -5
D" Eze 28:15 You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, until unrighteousness was found in you. Ezk denies your post – the sinner of Ezk 28 was perfect from the beginning
R" Can't you read? The creature was sinless until the free will of the creature decided to sin.
Rev 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. Rev 12:2 She is pregnant—crying out in birth pains, in agony to give birth. Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: a great fiery red dragon that had seven heads and ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads. Rev 12:4 …Now the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that whenever she gave birth he might devour her child.
The Beast was never perfect The Beast was never God most cherished friend The Beast appeared in a plurality ready to devour – to whatever is created Entropy is a by-product of / inherent to creation
The NT clearly says the shedim sin like humans sin. Do you Dave agree with this statement, that John makes in the NT ? YES – Everyone agrees that Azazal and his bane elohiym SINNED in Gen 6:4 These sinning ‘messengers’ are locked away in chains in prison – Jude + 2 Peter + Enoch
The rest of your post is a side line issue, making excuse. IF you do not understand what happened in Gen 6 Then you will not understand much of the ahl/OT
To the question – who are the Nephilim Your answer = just really tall men
To the question – why did God command Israel to perform genocide? Your answer = It never happened because your SDA god must obey the 10 Commandments and cannot harm
To the question – who were the Sons of Anak and the 7 tribes of Amorite Your answer – they were just men
To the question of why God ordered a genocide at Jericho Your answer = God cannot do that – scripture is wrong Jewish answer – there were Nephilim / Rephiem there – DUH
To the question of who are the ‘other gods’ of the pagan – where every they are Your answer = they are imaginary
To the question of who are the ‘other gods’ of the Levant Your answer = they are imaginary
To the question of who is Allah and the Jinn Your answer is NO RESPONSE
To the question of ancient astronauts – you claim they are imaginary To the claim of UFOs and aliens today – you claim they are imaginary To the claim of Incremental Creation You best answer = God laid all the fossils down in the mud – in the correct order – after the flood And you offer Don Patton as proof
Deny away Robert – keep preaching your satan is god It is not a message of salvation
I understand that Miller was a Baptist – and they teach fear But your obsession with your satan god and Ellen White IS NOT A CHRISTIAN MESSAGE
Judaism has One True Creator - that is absolute - He created everything and everything for a purpose - the tov and the ra - as well as the darkness and chaos of Gen 1:2 - God looked at it and said it was good. Robert considers Rom 1:19 + Psa 19:2 as proof of a flawed world - it is just Robert's opinion God said it was tov
Teaching that a created being rose up against God's Will is an insult to the absoluteness of the Creator Teaching that a created being changed his assigned role within creation - against God's Will is rediculas Teaching that this self-made being then changed all God's creation also angainst God's Will is also rediculas It evelates Roman Catholic Satan to godhood - while insulting the absoluteness of God
Sin entered the world through Eve - Rom 5:12
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2022 15:08:16 GMT -5
Rev 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. Rev 12:2 She is pregnant—crying out in birth pains, in agony to give birth. Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: a great fiery red dragon that had seven heads and ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads. Rev 12:4 …Now the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that whenever she gave birth he might devour her child.
The Beast was never perfect The Beast was never God most cherished friend The Beast appeared in a plurality ready to devour – to whatever is created Entropy is a by-product of / inherent to creation
Rob asks, OK I will bite.
Who is the Beast Dave, state it's origin clearly from Scripture.
And do not say the Beast is a shedim creature. Otherwise you have a problem. Because the shedim sin like humans sins, says the NT.
SHalom
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Post by Dave on Oct 18, 2022 3:04:57 GMT -5
Who is the Beast Dave, DUH - Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down—the ancient serpent, called the devil and satanas, who deceives the whole world.
state it's origin clearly from Scripture. DUH - Rev 12:1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. Rev 12:2 She is pregnant—crying out in birth pains, in agony to give birth. Rev 12:3 Then another sign appeared in heaven: a great fiery red dragon that had seven heads and ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads. Rev 12:4 His tail sweeps away a third of the stars of heaven—it hurled them to the earth. Now the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that whenever she gave birth he might devour her child.
And do not say the Beast is a shedim creature. Otherwise you have a problem. Because the shedim sin like humans sins, says the NT. DUH - YES – 200 or so bane elohiym reproduced out of their kind in Gen 6
IF you do not understand what happened in Gen 6 THEN you will not understand much of the ahl/OT
To the question – who are the Nephilim Your answer = just really tall men
To the question – why did God command Israel to perform genocide? Your answer = It never happened because your SDA god must obey the 10 Commandments and cannot harm
To the question – who were the Sons of Anak and the 7 tribes of Amorite Your answer – they were just men
To the question of why God ordered a genocide at Jericho Your answer = God cannot do that – scripture is wrong Jewish answer – there were Nephilim / Rephiem there – DUH
To the question of who are the ‘other gods’ of the pagan – where every they are Your answer = they are imaginary
To the question of who are the ‘other gods’ of the Levant Your answer = they are imaginary
To the question of who is Allah and the Jinn Your answer is NO RESPONSE
To the question of ancient astronauts – you claim they are imaginary To the claim of UFOs and aliens today – you claim they are imaginary To the claim of Incremental Creation You best answer = God laid all the fossils down in the mud – in the correct order – after the flood And you offer Don Patton as proof
Deny away Robert – keep preaching your satan is god It is not a message of salvation IS NOT A CHRISTIAN MESSAGE
Judaism has One True Creator - that is absolute - He created everything and everything for a purpose - the tov and the ra - as well as the darkness and chaos of Gen 1:2 - God looked at it and said it was good. Robert considers Rom 1:19 + Psa 19:2 as proof of a flawed world - it is just Robert's opinion God said it was tov
Teaching that a created being rose up against God's Will is an insult to the absoluteness of the Creator Teaching that a created being changed his assigned role within creation - against God's Will is rediculas Teaching that this self-made being then changed all God's creation also angainst God's Will is also rediculas It evelates Roman Catholic Satan to godhood - while insulting the absoluteness of God
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