RP" Has it ever occurred to you the Jewish theology is wrong?
D" ABSOLUTELY NOT
Rob replies" OK let's test your idea.
Jews say a person is saved by good yester Tov, and are rewarded for their good works.
In other words, I do good deeds using my own human strength, and I follow and do all the 613 directions of the Lord using my own human strength.
Jesus teaches His salvation only comes into you by faith in His words. This is entirely different to the Jewish idea. ABSOLUTE PROOF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND JUDAISM
ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING FROM CHURCH IGNORANCE
You refused to study the Jewish concept of Quorbats / Korbots – the Jewish concept of personal Judaism
What you have posted here belongs in a classroom for toddlers – elementary – Christian propaganda.
YES – all Jews are saved by the promiseGal 3:6 Just as Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness,”
Gal 3:7 know then that those who have faith are children of Abraham.
Gal 3:8 The Scriptures, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, proclaimed the Good News to Abraham in advance, saying, “All the nations shall be blessed through you.”
Gal 3:9 So then, the faithful are blessed along with Abraham, the faithful one.
Israel had / HAS a physical role to play 1- They are God’s physical witness on earth – they dress different – act different – stand out – for God
Their very existence is a witness to God 1st Egypt, 2nd Canaan, 3rd Babylon, 4th Rome, 5th all the nations of the world – AND THEY ARE STILL ISRAEL standing for their ONE TRUE GOD
2- Israel had / HAS a spiritual role to playAll Jews were / are Pentecostal – the goal of Judaism was / is always a personal relationship with the Lord – one on one with God – one on one with the Word of God – one on one with the angels of God
3- Jesus Christ opened this doorway to both Salvation and Pentecostalism to everyone – (Gentiles)
4- What is required for salvation in the ahl or agl =
Answer – belief in the Lord as the One True God YHWY – YESUASH Psa 62:2 My soul, wait in stillness, only for God—from Him comes my salvation.
Psa 62:3 He alone is my rock and my salvation, my fortress—I will never be moved.
Psa 3:8 Salvation belongeth unto the LORD:
Act 4:12 There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved!”
Robert – your teaching that God and Christ are two different gods force you into a different religion and savior than Judeo-Christianity
Your teaching that all Jews must stop trusting in the promise of God and change to a belief in Christ force you into a different religion than Judeo-Christianity-----------------------
The Jew gets his power to do yester tov from his human powers, while the Christian gets his power to do yester Tov from Jesus directly, via faith in His words.ABSOLUTE PROOF YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND JUDAISM
ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT YOU ARE SPEAKING FROM CHURCH IGNORANC
Aaron's rod changed Egypt Exd 7:10-12
Waters made blood Egypt Exd 7:20-25
Frogs produced Egypt Exd 8:5-14
Lice Egypt Exd 8:16-18
Flies Egypt Exd 8:20-24
Murrain Egypt Exd 10:3-6
Boils Egypt Exd 9:11
Thunder, etc. Egypt Exd 9:23
Locusts Egypt Exd 10:12-19
Darkness Egypt Exd 10:21-23
Death of the first-born Egypt Exd 12:29, 30
Red Sea Egypt Exd 14:21-31
Marah's waters sweetened Egypt Exd 15:23-25
Manna sent In the Wilderness Exd 16:14-35
Water from the rock Rephidim Rephidim Exd 17:5-7
Aaron's rod budded Kadesh Num 17:1, etc.
Nadab and Abihu consumed. Sinai Lev 10:1, 2
The burning of Taberah Tabereth Num 11:1-3
Earthquake and Fire - Num 16:31-35
Water flowing from the Rock Desert of Zin Num 20:7-11
Serpent healing the Israelites Desert of Zin Num 21:8, 9
Balaam's ass speaking Pethor Num 22:21-35
The river Jordan divided River Jordan Jos 3:14-17
Walls of Jericho fall down Jericho Jos 6:6-20
Sun and moon stand still Gibeon Jos 10:12-14
Water flowing from the rock En-hakkore Jdg 15:19
Philistines slain before the ark Ashdod 1Sa 5:1-12
Men of Bethshemesh smitten Bethshemesh 1Sa 6:19
Thunder destroys Philistines Ebenezer 1Sa 7:10-12
Thunder and rain in harvest Gilgal 1Sa 12:18
Sound in the mulberry trees Rephaim 2Sa 5:23-25
Uzzah struck dead Perez-uzzah 2Sa 6:7
Jeroboam's hand withered Beth-el 1Ki 13:4, 5
Widow of Zarephath's meal Zarephath 1Ki 17:14-16
Widow's son raised Zarephath 1Ki 17:17-24
Sacrifice consumed Mount Carmel 1Ki 18:30-38
Rain obtained Land of Israel 1Ki 18:41-45
Ahaziah's captains consumed Near Samaria 2Ki 1:10-12
River Jordan divided River Jordan 2Ki 2:7, 8, 14
Waters of Jericho healed Jericho 2Ki 2:21, 22
Water for Jehoshaphat's army Land of Moab 2Ki 3:16-20
The widow's oil multiplied - 2Ki 4:2-7
Shunammite's son raised Shunem 2Ki 4:32-37
The deadly pottage cured Gilgal 2Ki 4:38-41
Hundred men fed with twenty loaves Gilgal 2Ki 4:42-44
Naaman cured of his leprosy Samaria 2Ki 5:10-14
Leprosy inflicted Gehazi Samaria 2Ki 5:20-27
Iron swims River Jordan 2Ki 6:5-7
King of Syria's army smitten Dothan 2Ki 6:18-20
Elisha's bones revive the dead - 2Ki 13:21
Sennacherib's army destroyed Jerusalem 2Ki 19:35
Sun goeth back Jerusalem 2Ki 20:9-11
Uzziah struck with leprosy Jerusalem 2Ch 26:16-21
Shadrach, Meshach, etc., delivered Babylon Dan 3:19-27
Daniel in the den of lions Babylon Dan 6:16-23
Jonah in the whale's belly - Jon 2:1-10
WHY DO YOU DENY THE SPIRIT – WHY DO YOU DENY PENTACOSTALISM
WHY DO YOU CALL THE SPIRIT SPEAKING THROUH MAN SATANONIC
So here is a major difference between Jews and their ideas of being saved by God.Ro 10:1 -3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
YEP – religious Jews – Law followers – Talmudic Jews – spirit deniers4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
YEP – this is all that is required – BELIEF IN GOD – or BELIEF THAT CHRIST IS GOD – it is the SAME BELIEFGal 3:6-9 – Jews do not have to convert to being ChristianChristians become spiritual Jews – saved by Divine Pardon – or subject to Proportional Punishment2Co 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, so that each one may receive what is due for the things he did while in the body—whether good or bad.
And how is this older method of salvation achieved?ANSWER =Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.
Jewish definition of TORAH – God’s voice, commandments, statues, and laws
IF YOU AREWALIKNG IN THE SPIRIT – you are walking in the Law – without ever reading the law
But few Jews seem to realize that one cannot be saved under the older method because all humans have sinned already and cannot achieve righteousness.Rom 9:24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Rom 9:25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
Rom 9:26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
Rom 9:27 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea,
a remnant shall be saved: Rom 9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
Rom 9:29 And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
Rom 9:31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Rom 9:32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;
Correct – Religious Jews depended upon church – tradition – doctrine – law - deeds
BUT – Practicing Jews and Christians believe by FAITH – a personal walk with God – not the doing of thingsa remnant shall be saved – to be called back together for 1948 Israel and the coming WWIIIwww.versebyverseministry.org/bible-answers/am-i-part-of-the-jewish-remnantThe remnant of Israel is the "believing" and faithful element among all Jews. In the days prior to Christ, the remnant were best described by the Lord Himself in 1Kings 19, when He said to Elijah in 1Kings 19:18: Yet I will leave 7,000 in Israel, all the knees that have not bowed to Baal and every mouth that has not kissed him.
In Elijah's day, those who had not "bowed to Baal" were the faithful remnant of Israel. They were the remnant because they held to God's Law and did not engage in the idol worship which dominated Israel in that day.
a remnant shall be saved – to be called back together for 1948 Israel and the coming WWIIILuke 21:29-33 And he told them a parable: "Look at the fig tree, and all the trees; as soon as they come out in leaf, you see for yourselves and know that the summer is already near. So also, when you see these things taking place, you know that the kingdom of God is near. Truly, I say to you, this generation will not pass away till all has taken place. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away."
www.icej.org/blog/what-does-the-bible-have-to-say-about-the-return-of-the-jews-to-their-homeland/There Are Two Returns
Isaiah 11:11 indicates there would be a day when God would raise his hand “a second time” to gather the children of Israel to their homeland. The first return was predicted by the prophet Jeremiah to take place after Israel had been in captivity for 70 years (Jeremiah 29:10), and according to Ezra 1:1 happened precisely as foretold. After 500 years of intermittent and partial sovereignty in the Land, the Jewish people were once again dispersed under the Roman Empire in AD 70. After 2,000 years, they have now returned and reestablished sovereignty. No other people group has managed to survive two exiles—much less one that was 2,000 years long—and then return to reestablish national sovereignty.
The Second Return is from All Nations
This second return was to be from every nation where they had been dispersed (Jeremiah 16:14–15; 23:3, 7–8; 29:14; 31:7–8), not just Babylon. Over the past 120 years or so, more than 3.5 million Jews have immigrated to the Land of Israel from all over the world—from the north, south, east, and west—in literal fulfillment of God’s promises (Isaiah 43:5–6).
A Banner to the Nations
The regathering of the Jewish people to their land is depicted as God’s banner to the nations (Isaiah 11:12). A banner was often a rallying point in military operations, and was carried to lead a formation, but often bore the name or image of that army’s God. Using this symbolism, the Hebrew prophet Isaiah considered the ingathering as a proclamation of God’s name and His character to the nations (Ezekiel 28:25).
The Return is not Based on Merit
The Mosaic Covenant was clear that living in the Land of Israel was a benefit of walking in obedience with God, and that even after exile, repentance would lead to Israel’s return. However, the Hebrew prophets spoke of a day when God would sovereignly gather His children back to the Land, not because of anything they had done, but to be a witness to the gentiles and to vindicate His name. The timing was up to Him (Psalm 102:13); He would do it (Jeremiah 23:3), and He would even use the gentiles to make it happen (Isaiah 49:22–26; 60:8–12).
God vindicates His name because it has been profaned before the nations through the disobedience and exile of His people (Ezekiel 36:22). He will demonstrate His holiness (Ezekiel 36:22–23) and His faithfulness, whether His children are deserving or not. It reflects His love and mercy toward them (Isaiah 60:8–10), as well as toward the world He plans to redeem and fill with His truth and glory for eternity (Psalm 102:16–22).
This Great Act of God Leads to Revival
The ingathering of the Jewish people in modern times holds great promise for Israel and for the world, as it heralds the soon coming of the Messianic kingdom. While it is a physical return with many logistical and practical aspects, it is a sacred thing because it is building a platform for the coming of the kingdom of God, when the glory of the Lord appears (Psalm 102:15–16) and He tabernacles with man (Ezekiel 37:26–27: Revelation 21:3).
That the gentiles are called to assist in this process is an amazing and holy thing. Isaiah 66:20 describes the act of gentiles bringing His people home—the people He loves and will use to bless the whole earth—as so sacred it is likened to “bringing an offering to the Lord.” What a wonderful image depicting the biblical significance of the return of the Jews to their homeland.
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