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Post by Dave on Sept 20, 2022 13:09:16 GMT -5
The world is about to change – when one domino falls – it will drag others down with it Dillon and my family focus of discussion these days are about the starburst prophesy This is actually from a Catholic Priest named Michael Reinhardt – circa 1990s His sermon is titled – 7 nuclear missiles will strike America He suggest that – China and Russia will make a deal Strike America with a Pearl Harbor / Blitzkrieg / shock and awe First Blow – Preemptive Strike And then Russia and China can chare what’s left He suggest that America will be attacked by many incoming missiles all at once But America will successfully defend a lot of them Only 7 get through – changing America foreverMany experts thought China would invade Taiwan But Russian failure in Ukraine against Western / American weapons forced China to reconsider How can Putin get out of the mess he has caused? If he nuked London – or New York – we would just retaliate And of course – how could they strike America Answer – Nuclear submarines – each with 14-26 nuclear tipped missiles – with 4-10 warheads each Do you now feel more secure that you now have a nuclear submarine base near you How close are you to Port Kembla We Three Kings13:20 min
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Post by Dillon on Sept 21, 2022 9:52:32 GMT -5
You're Going to See a Lot of Starvation!!! | Jordan Peterson 2022
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Video Star bust AUKUS Australia to get nuclear sub, in SA Osborne ShipYard. Improved Artifical Intelligence, for battle field. DARPA office in Canberra agency builds next generation weapons Defense Space command coming in Australia Playing chess with three queens on the chess board. Alternative is CHina influence, Solomon Is chain is going over to China. We have to establish outselves again. --------------------- We are going to starve. Tilt them into starvation Sri Lankan is starving now Epic famine in human history Starve the poor and they get desperate. Energy is going to be expensive Getting ready folks. Some countries might fall off the tree. Greece fall off, maybe Germany? Famines in past....
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Thanks Dillon, thanks Dave for the video share.
Yes it's a scary time. My garden shed is beginning as we speak, gradually save my family. Not sure how one can help others in Sri Lankan
The merchants of earth want us poor cattle dead... how cruel... how we destroy those on the earth.
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Post by Dave on Sept 22, 2022 5:16:34 GMT -5
Video Star bust Alternative is CHina influence, Solomon Is chain is going over to China. We have to establish ourselves again.Question ChristianMat 22:36 “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Torah?” Mat 22:37 And He said to him, “‘You shall love Adonai your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ Mat 22:38 This is the first and greatest commandment. Mat 22:39 And the second is like it, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ Mat 22:40 The entire Torah and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.” Mat 5:38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth.’ Mat 5:39 But I tell you, do not resist an evildoer. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him also the other. Mat 5:40 And the one wanting to sue you and to take your shirt, let him also have your coat. Mat 5:41 Whoever forces you to go one mile, go with him two. Mat 5:42 Give to the one who asks of you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you. I am NOT MOCKING – real question close to my own heartWe have to establish ourselves again - Alternative is China As a Christian – should we even care?TRUTH – Russian soldiers are abusing Ukrainian civilians = mass torture – mass murder – mas rape The opportunity to join the fight – to defend the people – is real – easy in fact I am an X-Marine – trained in heavy equipment – Tanks / Amtracks / Self-propelled artillery Others would pay my way – if I would go You grew up under Bretton-Woods – You have grown up in the 70 years of the greatest peace this planet has ever known – You have grown up under FREE TRADE The Solomon’s have always been shared / community property / mutually accessible The return to Nationalism (What is MINE is MINE) = (yester ra) on a national scale It is GREED – selfishness – LUST - WORLD YES – hunger is coming to the WORLD – China is only trying to – go forth be fruitful and multiply – survival and survival of the species (nation) – (yester ra) Someone said once – “I do the thing I have to do – to live the life I choose”This IS NOT evil – it is survival in the WORLD No god of evil required – just WORLD and (yester ra) biological survival Edmund Burk – “For evil to succeed, at it takes is for good men to do nothing” Robert speaks of Fighting the Good Fight God placed a sword in the hands of Israel over and over and over throughout the agl/OT But as a Christian – a spirit led Christian I choose NOT to be Elisha’s servant concerned with the army of flesh I choose to be Elisha and spiritual discern what is really happening - and WITNESSRussia / Ukraine is NOT the problem – it is a symptom of a larger reality Mat 24:6 You will hear of wars and rumors of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for this must happen but it is not yet the end. Russia withdrawing from Syria IS a big deal Israel has NOT attacked Syria or Iran directly per agreement with America The deal was NOT to provoke Russia into a conflict with the West TOO LATE Israel WILL reopen the Syrian civil war to eject Iran from Syria Israel WILL attack Iran's nuclear program Mat 24:7 For nation will rise up against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. And there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. Mat 24:8 But all these things are only the beginning of birth pains. there will be famines – secondary to warBecause of Bretton-Woods – human population has grown beyond the carrying capacity of the planet. Fact – countries that do not grow their own food have never supported large populations Fact – because of FREE TRADE - food was available and affordable The BALANCE of globalism afforded by FREE TRADE is at a collapsing point War in Ukraine = famine – somewhere – making food expensive everywhere else Rev 6:8 Behold, I saw a horse, pale greenish gray. The name of the one riding on it was Death, and Sheol was following with him. Authority was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill by sword and by famine and by plague and by the wild beasts of the earth. --------------------- We are going to starve. Starve the poor and they get desperate. Energy is going to be expensive Getting ready folks. Some countries might fall off the tree. Greece fall off, maybe Germany? Yes it's a scary time. How can you possibly deny world event and 1948 Israel?
Do you understand the predicament German is in?Do you think Putin will use a Nuke if he gets desperate enough? We know from scripture that the Golan Heights / Jordan are Nuked ------------------------ My garden shed is beginning as we speak, gradually save my family. 100% (yester ra) – NOT evil just selfish – survival Not sure how one can help others in Sri Lankan1- STOP WHAT IS HAPPENING IN UKRAINE 2- Join a Christian co-op – send food – save a few 3- Recognize what is really happening and WITNESS 4- The only tragedy in death – is death without the WITNESS The merchants of earth want us poor cattle dead... how cruel... how we destroy those on the earth.how cruel... – why NOT satanic evil – just human crueltyhow we destroy those on the earth – man does it all by himself – no need for your satan godThe merchants of earth want us poor cattle deadFACT- any species in a closed ecosystem has 4 stage of life 1- Lag Phase – low stagnate populations in a harsh environment 2- Log Phase – once the population learns to maximize its environment Energy – 1800s - Coal and steam – oil and gas – nuclear energy – 1945 Hiroshima3- Stationary Phase – Bretton-Woods – globalization – FREE TRADE 4- Decline or Death Phase – when natural resources are depleted – or toxins from waste overwhelm Demographic Winter – war over resources – system collapse - famine – pestilence(yeaster ra) – only 2 options (1) expand your environment – war over resources – or (2) kull the herd The merchants of earth want us poor cattle deadDoes NOT require a god of evil – it is just WORLD
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Post by Dillon on Sept 22, 2022 13:49:45 GMT -5
"Russia Is Doomed To Collapse, Like It's Soviet Predecessor" | Peter Zeihan
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Post by Dillon on Sept 24, 2022 3:45:41 GMT -5
'It's not that you love the planet, it's that you hate humanity': Dr Jordan Peterson
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 5:12:38 GMT -5
Hard video to follow Dillon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2022 15:39:16 GMT -5
Dave comments " how cruel... – why NOT satanic evil – just human cruelty on Rob's comments "how we destroy those on the earth"
Dave replies" – man does it all by himself – no need for your satan god
And Dave thus mocks Rob's comment "The merchants of earth want us poor cattle dead"
Jas 5:1 ¶ Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. 3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
These ten kings or rich merchants that rule the earth come to their end, as God decrees this.
Jas 5:5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.
Indeed these merchants plan a global reset, where they try to exterminate many of us living on the earth.
Re 13:1 ¶ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
While you have differences over this verse, it tells us that the dragon gives his power to the beast who runs and rules over these merchants, hence the one world government that is coming is run entirely as the dragon wishes.
So Dave, already the Scripture speaks of all the world being under the power of the dragon, and thus this is nothing about man following the world, doing man things of RA.
Re 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. 4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Who is this beast power with the wounded head, that is revived, and the whole world worships? And also praises the dragon for giving it's powers to the beast goverment?
Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
This beast is allowed to run a one world government for 42 months before God comes to rescue those who refuse to worship under the beast, many paying with their lives for dragon disobedience.
Dave replies" – man does it all by himself – no need for your satan god
This comment is dead wrong, but since you refuse to read Scripture plainly , there is no way to change your world view of things.
You didn't answer my question, "Is sinning by definition is opposing God ?".
Suppose one of your daughters Dave, rebels against you, becomes a whore, and does her own thing, does not obey you, dresses any way she chooses, etcetera. Would you not agree with me, that the father daughter relationship is broken, and that daughter and father respect is lost, and that love shared between father and daughter is gone?
Maybe you have some extreme view of oppose. A broken relationship, a severed respect, a lost connection, no more talking nicely, no love shared. These qualities of relationship are all elements of one opposing the other. As a father you would get emotionally sad, teary, lonely and depressed, and these emotions are opposing the good emotions you want to have over your daughter but can't because she is opposing you, and everything you stand for.
In terms of might, absolute power, money or wealth, your daughter cannot oppose you like that, as she is less strong, less wealthy, and less able to do things. The word oppose does not mean one is bigger and stronger than the other, but simply in broad terms, the relationships between the two couples is getting wider, more stressed and tensioned as one wanders away from the other.
Dillon showed a video of humans sacrificing young children to a snake, obviously a shedim serpent being, who loves to drink human blood and watch humans worship this power, who is an elohiym power, that opposes GOD. I find how strange you think that Molech the serpent snake, is just some human invention of the mind in a world. It's not Dave. It's a snake creature who hates living, and hates love, and wants instead sinning promoted in all its forms, including the murder of young innocent children, as well as brutally cutting them in half while naked. All the depravities are shown because the serpent power hates God intensely.
Re 13:4 And the humans worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the human-beast:
This verse shows Dave, where Moloch beast comes from? Not from human inventions of world...
It was a good video Dillon showing how the serpent power opposes God, and even has young innocent children murdered and cut in half for sacrifice. What kind of serpent power is this creature that spoke of Eve in the garden. Did Eve know that one day this same power will cut her children in half, torture and murder them, and rape them just for sport?
The Hebrew word "chata" means to "miss". What you miss shooting an arrow at a target, does the missed arrow, do anything to your perfect score and shooting ability? Yes, the missing is opposing you directly, and shows to others how imperfect you are as a marksman. You make mistakes, and the arrows missing the target speak against you, thus opposing your standards of being a superior marksman.
But Dave say such tiny arrows can never oppose you... maybe not....but they can if you decide to enter competitions of being a marksman. I am referring to not how strong you are, or how clever you are or how all knowing you are, but how good is your shooting of arrows at a target.
1Jo 3:6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
John tells us that sinning goes away when you abide in Jesus. Thus the relationship you have in Jesus gets stronger, and thus you become less sinning.
Anyhow, I don't expect you to understand, just my two pennies of witness, as God teaches me to understand the Scriptures. Enjoy your day. I have a ramp to finish.
SHalom
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Post by Dave on Sept 25, 2022 13:32:32 GMT -5
"Russia Is Doomed To Collapse, Like Its Soviet Predecessor"Simple demographics – Russian wheat belt – the most habitual area – food – includes Ukraine Just like Australia – populated good areas – and a whole lot of empty Just like America – Australia has defensible borders – water all around America – has friends to the North that want to be American – has friends to the South that want to be American – and waters on both sides Russia – has wide open plains to the East – South – and West – and an Artic North Catherine the Great – the only way for Russia to survive is to expand i.e. – expand to defendable borders = The 9 defense gates of the USSR 2:15 – demographics – 2024 – ½ of Putin’s army reaches retirement age The replacement generation is much smaller Putin’s army will never be larger than it is right now 3:45 – the fertilizer shortages – Russia + Ukraine + China The peace and FREE TRADE of Bretton-Woods = Africa food production increased (artificially) Net food producers –vrs- Net food importers 8:00 – Not worried about wars with Russia or China The real worries are the wars as a result of the after effect Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. ------------------------------ It's not that you love the planet, it's that you hate humanity': Dr Jordan PetersonJordan Peterson holds multiple PhDs – extremely respected – speaking plain English You have a comprehension problem 1- Putin is just a man – like any other – nothing special because we all have a Hitler or Stalin within us. We all have our deep seeded (yester ra) natures 2- Totalitarianism is NEVER top down Gerbals – the way to get people to do what you want them to = terrify them Machiavellianism – to rally the people for common cause they need a common enemy Putin’s propaganda = everyone is out to get Russia – Russia is just defending itself Communism – only exist because people want to be ruled Democracy – rule of majority – is very complicated and messy THE ABSOLUTE REASON – Pentecostalism had to be eliminated from the early church If you are led by the spirit – you do not need a priest or a building called church The absolute reason why totalitarian regimes are either use the church as a tool – Russian Orthodox Or deny the church - China Communism – only exist because people want to be ruled The people MUST buy into the LIE What is the lie = (yester ra) – what we do is for the good of the whole – survival of the species / nation Truth – many innocent and unsuspecting people are harmed / used / abused / neglected Democracy – (yester ra) – what we do is for the good of the whole – survival of the species / nation Plus – the voice of (yester tov) in COMPASSION for the innocent and unsuspecting people that are harmed / used / abused / neglected Democracy – (yester ra) + a dose of Judeo-Christianity 3- How will the war in Ukraine end Answer – we will find out this winterWhy – because Europe NEEDS gas and oil from Russia – Nordstrom Pipeline If Russia shuts off the oil and gas – as winter cold hits Europe – will Europe give in to Putin? Europe + America = NATO Shut the pipeline off – and the NATO alliance could break Germany is Putin’s #1 target – the biggest economy and largest army England – already in an energy crunch $8.00 per gallon gas = price inflation on everything – the economy will retract – recession 4- 3:00 - Will Russia use a Nuke?Answer – Russia will do anything – NOT TO LOSE Will the West respond? Answer – probably NOTWhy – what’s in it for us! – a Nuclear exchange on a escalated scale is suicide for the West as well 5- 3:30 – man has finally reached CATCH 22If you do not know the Catch 22 reference – you should google it Man is stuck with 2 choices – both result in death Man is stuck – it is hell if we go this way – or hell if we go the other way Man is at a tipping point – should we fall to the left – or fall to the right Man is at a tipping point – on every front imaginable – the point will be the GREEN MOVEMENT6- 4:00 – Russian victory = Ukraine in ruins Why – because it takes a birth rate of 2.11 to sustain a culture Destroy the Ukrainian people = expansion of a Russian culture into that same area 5:10 – you cannot win against someone you cannot say no to Putin controls the Nordstrom Pipeline We (Europe) sold their soul for Russian oil and gas AND – Europe did that in the guise of Saving the Planet – GREEN MOVEMENT - away from coal 5:40 – assuming ‘Global Warming is caused by man’ – not his belief Not my belief either – ‘Warming’ is a solar system event – effecting more than just earth BUT - assuming ‘Global Warming is caused by man’ – the GREEN MOVEMENT should be making the situation better – instead they are help making it worse ----------------- George Orwell – ‘ It’s not that you love the planet, it’s that you hate humanity’The demographic winter of the Caucasian / Western Culture is due to a 1963 Book call the Population Bomb – people stopped having babies – to save the planet The demographic winter of the Caucasian Western Culture is due to the liberation of women from home maker to careers – women’s lib – all good intentions – all pro-woman – all good The demographic winter of the Caucasian / Western Culture is due in part to the LGYBT movement - all good – all pro man – pro-choice – pro-freedom Today’s GREEN MOVEMENT – down with fossil fuels – Global Warming The misrepresentation of GREEN propagandaAmerican’s (me) remember the smog of the 1960s – before emission standards Those same emission standards became an argument against coal fired power plants and steel production – all good – all pro-earth – all pro-man RESULT – cars have become a mechanics nightmare and steel production moved to china America has a war on coal – miners out of work – power plants replaced with oil and nuclear energy Now – America has a war on oil – all good – all pro-earth – all pro-man GREEN MOVEMENT is anti-nuclear – in Europe Germany and Europe spent the last 20 years building the pipelines to Putin’s Russia END RESULT – energy has become a weapon of war Globalism is dependent upon FREE TRADE – without it many people will be harmed – hungry – starved --------------------------------------- George Orwell – ‘ It’s not that you love the planet, it’s that you hate humanity’Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. Putin / Russia is (yester ra) trying to survive as a species – as a nation REPEAT - Communism = (yester ra) – what we do is for the good of the whole – survival of the species / nation Truth – many innocent and unsuspecting people are harmed / used / abused / neglected Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. RESULT =Humans Cruel Selfish Stupid Destroy Environment3:36 min At the end – man thinks he is the King on the Highest Mountain GREEN MOVEMENT - Fight the Destruction and Stand For TreesMAN vs EARTH5:27 min RESULT = a war on farmers – GMOs – pesticides – herbicides – fertilizers War on meat – save the pigs – protect the cows – no hunting – protect the bunny rabbits All good – all well-meaning – all nice – all pro-earth END RESULT – all major contributors to the coming food shortages that will cause a global famine Who is responsible – Post Flood earth was a green pasture Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. RESULTThis is NOT the result of your satan – it is simple biology 101 From God’s perspective the future was obvious -----------------------------
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Post by Dave on Sept 25, 2022 13:40:59 GMT -5
This is NOT the result of your satan – it is simple biology 101 From God’s perspective the future was obvious ----------------------------- Dave comments " how cruel... – why NOT satanic evil – just human cruelty on Rob's comments "how we destroy those on the earth" Dave replies" – man does it all by himself – no need for your satan god And Dave thus mocks Rob's comment "The merchants of earth want us poor cattle dead" NOT AT ALL – the merchants of this earth today are the 13 families that rule the world YES – they are being used by the archon – allegiance actuallyJas 5:1 ¶ Go to now, ye rich men, MENThese ten kings or rich merchants that rule the earth come to their end, as God decrees this. Jas 5:5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you. MENIndeed these merchants plan a global reset, where they try to exterminate many of us living on the earth. YES – those in power – already know and understand the fate of humanity The population of earth was artificially elevated by the 70 years of global peace and FREE TRADE provided by Bretton-Woods THEY are NOT creating it – they are simply planning to survive it in power (yester ra)Re 13:1 - While you have differences over this verse, it tells us that the dragon gives his power to the beast who runs and rules over these merchants, YEP – AGREEJas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (yester ra) Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. So Dave, already the Scripture speaks of all the world being under the power of the dragon, and thus this is nothing about man following the world, doing man things of RA.IT IS THE DEFINITION OF MAN SEEKING WORLD OVER GOD!Re 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. Islam fracturing into Sunni and Shia The Ottoman Empire destroyed by Alexander the Great YET – since 700AD – Islam has been the rebirth of a disunited Ottoman Empire4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed. Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of Who is this beast power with the wounded head, that is revived, and the whole world worships? And also praises the dragon for giving it's powers to the beast goverment? Islam and AllahRe 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. This beast is allowed to run a one world government for 42 months before God comes to rescue those who refuse to worship under the beast, many paying with their lives for dragon disobedience. Dave replies to “A”" – man does it all by himself – no need for your satan god Then Robert changed the question to “B”Gen 1:28 – (yester ra) man does not need help to subdue and dominate the planet As a result man has built a system that allowed man to over populate the planet The system is collapsing – humanity is in the decline/death phase This comment is dead wrong, but since you refuse to read Scripture plainly , there is no way to change your world view of things.My view – 1948 Israel is prophetic – the coming food shortages are prophetic – the following pestilences are prophetic – the coming wars are prophetic – the coming demographic winter is prophetic – the coming collapse of the global system is prophetic
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2022 15:09:24 GMT -5
Rob posted before " Rev 13: 4 And the humans worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the human-beast:
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Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of ...
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Dave replies to “A”" – man does it all by himself – no need for your satan god Then Robert changed the question to “B”
Now something is wrong here, I do not see all A, in the sentence verse in Rev 13:4
Dave reads the verse like this (Assume humans are A)
Re 13:4 And A worshipped the A which gave power unto the A:
Rob reads the verse like this (Assume humans are A, and the serpent, dragon, shedim, satanas, whatever you wish to call this creature B was in Eden tempting A to sin)
Re 13:4 And A worshipped the B which gave power unto the A:
Now can other readers apart from me see a problem with Dave's reply, or do I have problems reading sentence verses?
Same as Dillon's video
Dillion video on Molech "And the Amorites worshipped the SNAKE-SHEDIM which gave power to Molech"
And Revelation says "And the humans all over the world worshipped the SNAKE-SHEDIM which gave power to the One World Government Power (a religious system which is now politically forceful to all humans on earth)
Now I am interested in the term "gave power to", because Dave thinks all the woes of the world come directly from man himself. And Rob says all the woes of the world come from the serpent power because this power hates God and therefore hates man too, because we are made in God's image, and so the serpent is bent on destroying man upon the earth.
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Post by Dave on Sept 26, 2022 5:09:21 GMT -5
Dave replies to “A”" – man does it all by himself – no need for your satan god The merchants of earth want us poor cattle deadFACT- any species in a closed ecosystem has 4 stage of life 1- Lag Phase – low stagnate populations in a harsh environment 2- Log Phase – once the population learns to maximize its environment Energy – 1800s - Coal and steam – oil and gas – nuclear energy – 1945 Hiroshima3- Stationary Phase – Bretton-Woods – globalization – FREE TRADE 4- Decline or Death Phase – when natural resources are depleted – or toxins from waste overwhelm Demographic Winter – war over resources – system collapse - famine – pestilence(yeaster ra) – only 2 options (1) expand your environment – war over resources – or (2) kull the herd The merchants of earth want us poor cattle deadDoes NOT require a god of evil – it is just WORLD---------------- Dave replies to “A”" – man does it all by himself – no need for your satan god Then Robert changed the question to “B” Rev 13:4 And they worshiped the dragon, because he had given authority to the beast. They also worshiped the beast, chanting, “Who is like the beast, and who can make war against him?” Now something is wrong here, I do not see all A, in the sentence verse in Rev 13:4Re 13:4 And A worshipped the A which gave power unto the A: Rob reads the verse like this (Assume humans are A, and the serpent, dragon, shedim, satanas, whatever you wish to call this creature B was in Eden tempting A to sin) Gen 3:6 Now the woman saw that the tree was good for food, = (yester ra)and that it was a thing of lust for the eyes, = (yester ra)and that the tree was desirable for imparting wisdom. = (yester ra)So she took of its fruit and she ate. = SIN, disobedience, transgression of a commandmentGen 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened and they knew The only thing that changed – was their educationRe 13:4 And A worshipped the B which gave power unto the A: Now can other readers apart from me see a problem with Dave's reply, or do I have problems reading sentence verses? YES – you read evil into everythingIt is not the fruit’s fault It is not the tree’s fault It is not the serpent’s fault Eve chose to sin all by herself Gen 1:28 is not a commandment to sin – it is the commandment to (yester ra) ---------------- Same as Dillon's video Dillion video on Molech "And the Amorites worshipped the SNAKE-SHEDIM which gave power to Molech" And Revelation says "And the humans all over the world worshipped the SNAKE-SHEDIM which gave power to the One World Government Power (a religious system which is now politically forceful to all humans on earth) Now I am interested in the term "gave power to", The only reason Caesar was a god – is because the people bought into the lie The only reason Apollo was a god - is because the people bought into the lie The only reason Allah is a god - is because the people bought into the lie You are a man – just like Caesar – you can claim to be a god – or king The only way you are – is if you have the support of the people They give you the power - your power come from other men - your power come from the world Now I am interested in the term "gave power toWhy does Putin have any power – because the people of Russia give it to him Zar Nickoli claimed he had the power – but the people said no we support Lennon King George thought he had the power – but the people said no we support George Washington Now I am interested in the term "gave power toJordan Peterson – Totalitarianism is never TOP down – everyone must buy into the same lie – support the same lie What is the lie – the good of the whole is always best for the individual because Dave thinks all the woes of the world come directly from man himself. Eph 6 – our real struggle = archon – “Just outside our field of vision are entities - that are anything but human – that have been manipulating this world from the outside for eons … some people call them demonic, some call them the serpent race, Islam calls the the Jinn” – David Ike Eph 6 + Col 1:13 +John 1:3 + Rev 4:11 + Isa 45:5-7 + Prov 16:4 + Rev 12 It is all the BEAST – the serpent race – we call devils and satanas (Chaldean origin – NOT Hebrew)The New Testament / agl authors called the archon Luke - James, John, Paul, Peter, Phillip, and Thomas Validated as Beelzebub and the shedim of Jewish demonology by Jesus ChristAll very real – and come in many shapes and forms – evil spirits, other gods, demons, influencers speaking to the 13 families – through the 13 families – to us all individually Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.And Rob says all the woes of the world come from the serpent power because this power hates God Robert has had 3 years to present one verse to support his claim All he has is his assumptions from his church doctrine Robert has had 3 years to present one pre-Roman reference to his satan god All he has is his assumptions from his church doctrine and therefore hates man too, because we are made in God's image, Hates is Roberts evil word – Jealous is another word and so the serpent is bent on destroying man upon the earth.YES – I agree To kill man on earth – all the BEAST has to do is wait 120 years But Robert teaches that this power hates God and wars against God – opposes God Robert has had 3 years to present one verse to support his claim All he has is his assumptions from his church doctrine Robert has had 3 years to present one pre-Roman reference to his satan god All he has is his assumptions from his church doctrine
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2022 15:00:13 GMT -5
Your reply is strange, Dave.
You agree, your quote others who agree with me, yet you disagree and do not wish to read the Scripture as it reads plainly.
RP" and so the serpent is bent on destroying man upon the earth.
'D"YES – I agree To kill man on earth – all the BEAST has to do is wait 120 years
R" Why do you agree? Man can kill himself , needs no help from the Shedim you say?
Your terms of writing is confusing.
The BEAST is a human based power, in Revelation, never the SHEDIM directly?
So how can you agree? Did you just say , yes man kills man, and given 120 years man will kill every man? Is this what you are saying? Can anybody every read Dave's mind? Always full of confusion and imprecise terms.
Rob wishes to study "beast" ... Notice the method I use...
Ac 28:4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live. 5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.
This is the only NT passage that possibly states the beast might be the shedim-serpent, but really it is a stretch. The reference is to a snake.
Tit 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.
Humans are termed beasts, using poetry similes.
Jas 3:7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind:
James suggests serpents may be similes of beasts, but it's a stretch here too.
Re 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
Wow this is strange, the beast comes out of the bottomless pit, cannot reference humans, so has to reference the SHEDIM.
Re 13:1 ¶ And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
So does this make the beast BOTH a simile of human powers and shedim powers, like Ezekiel 28 does, making simile of humans that sin and angel cherubims that sin? Seems so.
Re 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Here we see the dragon gave the beast power the dragon's power.
Dave chooses to ignore this, reckons Rob see everything as evil? No Dave, just showing you scripture....do you deny Scripture?
Re 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:
Again the dragon gives the beast power his dragon's power.
Notice comparing Daniel with Revelation, Daniel explains what a beast power means as a simile:
Da 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
A beast power is a kingdom on the earth.
So I am not sure what Dave is agreeing to?
1) Does Dave agree the SHEDIM give power to humans to destroy humans?
Not anywhere I read, He doesn't agree to this.
D" All very real – and come in many shapes and forms – evil spirits, other gods, demons, influencers speaking to the 13 families – through the 13 families – to us all individually
Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.
R" All Dave says the SHEDIM are influencers, they keep man occupied in worldly affairs, and are great distractors.
This is hardly the idea that the SHEDIM seek to destroy man, kill man and drink their blood and ask for the sacrifice of child to them?
Dave quote Icke"
Just outside our field of vision are entities - that are anything but human – that have been manipulating this world from the outside for eons … some people call them demonic, some call them the serpent race, Islam calls the the Jinn” – David Ike
So Dave sees the SHEDIM only as influences that manipulate the world, keeping man busy in the affairs of the world.
Dave quotes Rob "But Robert teaches that this power hates God and wars against God – opposes God
R" SO I take this to mean, Dave has SHEDIM that are more or less liked by God, the shedim do the will of God, keeping man tempted to sin, so God and Dave more or less approve of the functional role of the Shedim.
This is hardly what Rob's view of the shedim are. Any creature who rules as a kingdom of sinning, is directly opposing God and walking away from a relationship with GOD.
RP" Now I am interested in the term "gave power to",
D" The only reason Caesar was a god – is because the people bought into the lie
R" SO Dave refuses to read this part of the verse.
You deny Scripture yet again Dave.
So Dave, the shedim possessed human, the demon possessed human, is just a mere distraction, is it? How can you reason freely if under the forced control of a spirit taking over your mind?
The woman bound in a terrible disease for 18 years by the chief shedim, is just a mere distraction? Not evidence of the Shedim opposing God (who is a health being, not a disease being)?
And yet Dave still asks for "Robert has had 3 years to present one pre-Roman reference to his satan god" your problem is Dave, you do not read Scripture as it reads any more.
Here is one Pre-Roman reference, Dave cannot comment on:-
1Jo 3:8 The devil-shedim sinneth from the beginning.
There you are , a pre-Roman reference to some angel that sinneth from the beginning of Earth Creation, before man ever sinned. Bingo. But no comments from Dave, ignore the verse.
Dave replies " YES – you read evil into everything It is not the serpent’s fault"
R" Oh so GOD created the shedim to be that way? Not as I read Scripture Dave, it says
1Jo 3:8 The devil-shedim sinneth from the beginning.
Eze 28:16 O covering cherub,.... thou hast sinned: therefore GOD will ...destroy thee,
Suggests to me when a creature sins, GOD steps in to destroy the creature, because the creature is opposing GOD in a relationship, that is opposite to everything GOD wishes from that relationship.
But Dave ignores the Scriptures, and denies the NT as well.
Re 13:4 The humans worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:
Notice the SHEDIM gives the beast kingdom on earth His Dragon powers.
This is something Dave, ignores too.
If GOD is wanting to destroy the SHEDIM that sinned, the SHEDIM is also trying to find ways to destroy God as well, and one way to destroy GOD is to destroy all relationships on earth. This is why a GOD-Human relationship based on love, is very rare on earth. In fact when Jesus comes He says will I find faith on the earth?
This is the only thing a creature opposer can oppose and destroy, "relationship". Its no distraction, worldly affair, keep them busy with other things, no, its designed to destroy relationship to GOD. This is the true definition of sin. To break relationship with God.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Sept 27, 2022 6:00:58 GMT -5
RP" and so the serpent is bent on destroying man upon the earth. 'D"YES – I agree To kill man on earth – all the BEAST has to do is wait 120 years
R" Why do you agree? Man can kill himself , needs no help from the Shedim you say? Your terms of writing is confusing. So how can you agree? Did you just say , yes man kills man, and given 120 years man will kill every man? Is this what you are saying? Can anybody every read Dave's mind? Always full of confusion and imprecise terms. 120 years is the life span given to man by God
Gen 6:3 Then Adonai said, “My Spirit will not remain with humankind forever, since they are flesh. So their days will be 120 years.”
If your satan wants man dead – all your satan has to do is wait 120 years and man will die of old age -----------------------------
Rob wishes to study "beast" ... Notice the method I use...
Ac 28:4 -This is the only NT passage that possibly states the beast might be the shedim-serpent, but really it is a stretch. The reference is to a snake.
Sometimes a snake is just a snake
Tit 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. Humans are termed beasts, using poetry similes. YES – humans - G2912 – Κρής - From G2914; a Cretan, that is, inhabitant of Crete:
Jas 3:7 For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: James suggests serpents may be similes of beasts, but it's a stretch here too.
This is a restatement of the commandment given to man – (yester ra) Gen 1:28 God blessed them and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, fill the land, and conquer it. Rule over the fish of the sea, the flying creatures of the sky, and over every animal that crawls on the land.”
Re 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. Wow this is strange, the beast comes out of the bottomless pit, cannot reference humans, so has to reference the SHEDIM. YEP – Rev 9 – the Gigori of Gen 6 – held in chains in a prison – awaiting to be used again
Re 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: Again the dragon gives the beast power his dragon's power. Notice comparing Daniel with Revelation, Daniel explains what a beast power means as a simile: Da 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. A beast power is a kingdom on the earth.
So I am not sure what Dave is agreeing to? 1) Does Dave agree the SHEDIM give power to humans to destroy humans? The beast fuel (yester ra) – lust – greed – selfishness – want and desire
Is Putin possessed by your satan? Does Russia receive it power from your satan? Russia says America and the West is empowered by your satan Russia expansion is in the name of survival (yester ra) to make thir country strong – (yester ra) Who is killing the soldiers – your satan or other men Who is raping children – your satan or other men Who has sacrifice 65,000 Russian soldiers and 14,000 Ukrainian soldiers + the millions harmed directly by the war
So is Putin the only one possessed by your satan Or are all Russians possessed by your satan? Or is all mankind possessed by your satan?
Or is Russia the Army of the Lord – come to cleans the land of your satan in the name of the Lord
Dave quote Icke" Just outside our field of vision are entities - that are anything but human – that have been manipulating this world from the outside for eons … some people call them demonic, some call them the serpent race, Islam calls the the Jinn” – David Ike
So Dave sees the SHEDIM only as influences that manipulate the world, keeping man busy in the affairs of the world. The war in Ukraine and the coming famine and pestilence is some distraction
Dave quotes Rob "But Robert teaches that this power hates God and wars against God – opposes God R" SO I take this to mean, Dave has SHEDIM that are more or less liked by God You are disrespectful and make up the most childish assumptions – your dedication to academic honesty
RP" Now I am interested in the term "gave power to", D" The only reason Caesar was a god – is because the people bought into the lie R" SO Dave refuses to read this part of the verse.
So Dave, the shedim possessed human, the demon possessed human, is just a mere distraction, is it? How can you reason freely if under the forced control of a spirit taking over your mind? So you do present the idea that your satan possess all mankind – rules us from within It is NOT our fault – satan possess us – forcing Eve to sin – Forcing Robert to sin If your satan god possess all mankind – where is the Free Will choice
Here is one Pre-Roman reference, Dave cannot comment on:- 1Jo 3:8 The devil-shedim sinneth from the beginning. YEP – the devil = satanas = the serpent race = the Beast of Revelation
There you are, a pre-Roman reference to some angel that sinneth from the beginning of Earth Creation, before man ever sinned. Bingo. But no comments from Dave, ignore the verse. The challenge to Robert has always been to provide a pre-Roman source for catholic fallen angels – an angel that rose up – hates God as Robert says – then changed his form and function to be the god of evil – then changed God’s original Plan against God’s Will
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2022 16:42:32 GMT -5
Greetings Dave,
Quite a turn around from you, now you agree with me, but only a little.
Now you say the SHEDIM only fuel man's yester RA desires....
Come on Dave, stop playing around with your word games, nit picking meanings of words....
If the SHEDIM "gave their SHEDIM powers to mankind", what on earth does this mean? Just adding fuel to man's yester RA? I hardly think so Dave.
Why won't you read Scripture plainly?
Than you write "The challenge to Robert has always been to provide a pre-Roman source for catholic fallen angels – an angel that rose up – hates God as Robert says – then changed his form and function to be the god of evil – then changed God’s original Plan against God’s Will"
Which is not any comment about the Pre-Roman verse I gave you, from 1 John 3 which says plainly, the chief SHEDIM SINNED from the beginning.
I wonder what this means ? to sin.... ? just a creature who adds fuel to man's yester ra ?
Come on Dave, when a group of humans gather around, with peer group pressure, and kick a weakling on the ground to death, are they just adding fuel to the fire, what is peer group pressure? Where does it come from? Humans only? Or from a group of sinning angels also telling the humans to beat the human to death?
You ask if the whole world is possessed by sinning angels, how does man develop free will? Only if you call out to GOD will God come and rescue you from the weaker opponent, but an opponent, the opposer is Dave. And if the humans do not call upon God? Well, they remain possessed, yes. Why do you think not many are found on earth with faith, when Jesus comes? A mere 144,000 in fact out of 6,000,000,000 people. Less than 0.0001%, close enough to zero righteous on earth when Jesus comes.
The rest are possessed daily by Satanic agencies.
Re 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:
This verse says the humans worshipped the sinning angels who gave their powers to the kingdom of Satan on earth.
Not just do the Shedim distract humans, or just add fuel to human yester ra, oh NO, the SHEDIM actually possess the human minds entirely, with worship.
Is it difficult to speak out to God? No, God lives inside each wicked person and as their conscience is speaking to them all the time, but the drugs, music and daily routines drown out the still small voice of God.
You cannot reason with a drunk, or a person high on drugs, or a person lazy wishing not to work.
D"So you do present the idea that your satan possess all mankind – rules us from within
R" Scripture teaches you are ruled by one of two masters? Yourself with SELF, is a part of Satan's kingdom, or you are ruled by Jesus, because you choose to be ruled by Him.
D"So is Putin the only one possessed by your satan Or are all Russians possessed by your satan? Or is all mankind possessed by your satan?
R" How much of the Mason religion embraces the world Dave? Who are these secret religion men? It's a business religion? What rulers control this secret religion? Every major town has a Masonic hall, what happens inside I wonder.
Professor Vieth quotes from Mason books and tells us both the Roman Catholics and Muslims are all Masons, so this secret religion is very powerful. Nearly all US presidents are all Masons. And you ask me is nearly all the world possessed? Well I know the Mason religion is embraced by worldly leaders? What do you know about the Masons and their secret religion?
Re 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast:
This verse says the humans globally worship this secret religion, which is formed by the dragon, and the religion was granted unto the dragon's kingdom.
There is a public version of Masonic religion and a hidden private version only 33rd Masons are allowed access to, but Walter Veith has this rare book and quotes from it, I often wonder why the Masons haven't killed Walter, so God maybe wants the truth to come out? Or the Masons don't care anymore, as they are so powerful on earth.
So back to Dillon's video, so this child sacrifice is just a distraction?, the Shedim only fuel man's yester RA?, is that it Dave? Such a weak selection of word meanings you use, you must respect your archons that much?
Archons are sinning angels Dave. They know they are all going to die from their sinnings. So being revengeful they seek to destroy as many humans as they can, out of spite. These angels hate God. They seek to hurt God's feelings the best way they can, by destroying God-human relationships. These sinning angels hate this weak love-sick rule and seek only the death and destruction of all creation.
God once left them to their world, formless and void at 2 degrees Kelvin. Seems they love being alive in such a miserable place. But God created a world over earth fully functional to allow man to witness against sinning angels and their kingdom, in order to defeat SIN forever. Sin shall not arise a second time.
1Jo 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning.
Sinning does not come first from humans only, the verse says any human who sins is of the SHEDIM, the sinning angels, for the sinning angels sinned first from the beginning. A verse Dave ignores.
Same as Ezekiel 28, another verse Dave ignores.
Shalom
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