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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 4:44:02 GMT -5
D"Moses died – why didn’t he cease to exist – fully alive and well in the Transfiguration R" Moses died only the first death, a sleep. Those saved never die the second death, Jesus died the second death for us, so we are grateful to Jesus for this redemption.
D"Jesus died on the Cross – why do you teach he no longer exist - Christian R" I do not teach this, the Father rescued and raised the SON from the second death after 3 days and 3 nights. D"(unless you are a Catholic and Jesus was crucified in Friday – then it was only 2 nights and 2 days) R" Gethsemane (dying from sins) Thursday night (Hebrew Friday) than Friday, than Friday night( Hebrew Sabbath) than Sabbath, than Sabbath night (Hebrew Sunday) and rose early SUnday morning.
Exactly 3 days and 3 nights.
D"So the promise of eternal LIFE (John 3:16) is a false promise – it that what you preach now? R" The promise of Jesus is, if you remain faithful to Him, Jesus grants you access to the tree of life, and in partnership to Jesus, you live as He lives, forever under His grace.
Without me ye can do nothing and are nothing.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Aug 21, 2022 10:08:50 GMT -5
D"Moses died – why didn’t he cease to exist – fully alive and well in the Transfiguration R" Moses died only the first death, a sleep. So why isn’t Moses in the grave sleeping at the time of Jesus Christ
Those saved never die the second death I agree – the promise of eternal life
Those saved never die the second death, Jesus died the second death for us, so we are grateful to Jesus for this redemption.
(google) In Seventh-day Adventist theology, the Great Controversy theme refers to the cosmic battle between Jesus Christ and Satan, also played out on earth.
So Jesus Christ is gone – removed from your controversy – you teach that your satan has won?
D"Jesus died on the Cross – why do you teach he no longer exist - Christian R" I do not teach this, the Father rescued and raised the SON from the second death after 3 days and 3 nights. No one is ever raised from the Second Death
D"So the promise of eternal LIFE (John 3:16) is a false promise – it that what you preach now? R" The promise of Jesus is, if you remain faithful to Him, Jesus grants you access to the tree of life, … Without me ye can do nothing and are nothing.
It is hard for Jesus to grant anything – if you teach he is dead
"For many will accept our teaching in the beginning. And they will turn from them again by the will of the Father of their error, because they have done what he wanted. And he will reveal them in his judgment, i.e., the servants of the Word. But those who became mingled with these shall become their prisoners, since they are without perception. And the guileless, good, pure one they push to the worker of death, and to the kingdom of those who praise Christ in a restoration. And they praise the men of the propagation of falsehood, those who will come after you. And they will cleave to the name of a dead man, thinking that they will become pure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2022 17:14:04 GMT -5
D"So why isn’t Moses in the grave sleeping at the time of Jesus Christ R" First fruits, raised as a special person in 3D biology too I might add.
D"No one is ever raised from the Second Death R" Correct, unless you are sinless, than your going there is on behalf of others who have sinned.
D"And they will cleave to the name of a dead man, thinking that they will become pure. R" Stop listening to your silly Gnostic writings, no wonder you want to mock me.
Jesus died only 3 days and nights for US, He is alive NOW in heaven, in human form, as our biological father, now also our biological Redeemer, and in the same biological form we humans have, but with additional functions not yet fully revealed.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Aug 21, 2022 20:44:21 GMT -5
D"So why isn’t Moses in the grave sleeping at the time of Jesus Christ R" First fruits, raised as a special person in 3D biology too I might add. WHAT – your First resurrection has already happened – did gentiles miss it altogether OR are you admitting that LIFE LIVES
D"No one is ever raised from the Second Death R" Correct, unless you are sinless, No one sinless enters the Lake of Fire
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead—the great and the small—standing before the throne. The books were opened, and another book was opened—the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to what was written in the books, according to their deeds. Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Sheol gave up the dead in them. Then they were each judged, each one of them, according to their deeds. Rev 20:14 Then death and Sheol were thrown into the lake of fire. This is the second death—the lake of fire. Rev 20:15 And if anyone was not found written in the Book of Life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
D"And they will cleave to the name of a dead man, thinking that they will become pure. R" Stop listening to your silly Gnostic writings, no wonder you want to mock me. You think I am mocking you – because you deny the spirit and praise satan
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