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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2022 20:21:27 GMT -5
Robert Deutsch - “What’s with the Weather” ?? with Paul Seils (49 minutes) He speaks of United Nations allowing geoengineering of the weather over the world, especially Australia. youtu.be/c9HhAO9acwUStratigrapheric experiements, into the atmosphere, funded by Gates Keutch Group at Harvard ScopeX Harvard. (google) telling us what is learned Chem bombs, they used to test weather effects. Strontium, barium and Aluminium (heavy metal poisoning). Hope Base, designed to communicate with oceans. 1300m by 700m near Newcastle, Nicola Tesla death Ray. As I speak we in Queensland Australia have been told by Robert Deutsch that we will get rain for 10 days. Today we are 3 days in with drizzle all day, our batteries are flat, no sunshine and we have flood in my backyard 6 to 12 inches deep. Nothing to do all day, too wet. Last night we got another 60mm of rain, or chemcial rain as Robert calls this. Others try to discredit him, but all his work come from papers from Unitied Nations and all the research stations across Australia. we have six such stations. He told us not to drink the rain, and yet it falls into our drinking water tank. So what do we do? We have had floods he predicted in Lismore, and many homes and lives got lost.  Massive flood predicted for Sydney....10 days of rain, in March 2022. He is a really impressive person, and really knows his stuff. When I was in work with weather research, a German company got 2 million for such research way back in 2007. So I saw some of this weather changes myself, and we used high voltage electricity. Some of these effects are much more complex and powerful than we had access to. Nevertheless these effects are real, and yes man has learned how to change our weather. Shalom |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2022 20:42:06 GMT -5
youtu.be/w_qkmavwE54I notice the experiments they do is much less in scope that Robert Deutsch postulated. Is this research a smoke screen? How much geo-engineering of our world is really going on? Shalom
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2022 20:56:46 GMT -5
youtu.be/GwTAqraKOgwWeather modifications United Nations Openly Discussing Weather Modification, Chemtrails & Geoengineering More than 50 weather modifications across the USA (2014) This programs impact agriculture. Chemically altered shot into the air, or placed their from planes. How do these changes affect our microclimates? chemicals like sulphur to help the planet not go through climate change. Chemicals into the atmosphere, we will reduce crop production. Persistent jet con trails, produce gases and chemicals that change our climate. We are making man made clouds. They use strontium, barium and aluminium chemicals. Chemcial show up in our drinking water. FOund spiking in strontium, barium and aluminium chemicals across the USA. Root systems look like dying of drought, but are actually dying of intake of water because aluminium is going into their systems. She suggests limiting the polluting agencies, impact our trees and crops. Shalom
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 5:54:06 GMT -5
I stumbled across some small videos that question everything I was ever taught.... Fun and brain stretching.... youtu.be/pTn6Ewhb27kWhy No One Has Measured The Speed Of Light R" Therefore time can never be proved.... youtu.be/bHIhgxav9LYThe Big Misconception About Electricity R" Therefore electricity can never be proved.... youtu.be/094y1Z2wpJgThe Simplest Math Problem No One Can Solve - Collatz Conjecture R" Therefore maths can never be proved.... youtu.be/HeQX2HjkcNoMath's Fundamental Flaw R" Therefore mathematical laws can never be proved.... youtu.be/wKBz6qpJBacStunning Pluto Images Show Something Unusual Going On There R" Therefore God's Creation can never be certain.... I loved watching them. Shalom |
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Post by Dave on Apr 26, 2022 14:08:09 GMT -5
I stumbled across some small videos that question everything I was ever taught....Robert – honestly – speaking as a friend – you are not verse in modern science theory
Most of your science views belong in the elementary schoolI do not have the time to watch all of these – but I comment on their titles Why No One Has Measured The Speed Of Light
R" Therefore time can never be proved....Correct – time = distance and cosmic distance is expanding E=mc2 (C2) is a variable (c2) the graph of an exponent is always a curve – a curve is non-linear – linear = a straight line The Big Misconception About Electricity
R" Therefore electricity can never be proved....“E” is a force – not a thing Man can never measure the force – man can only observe the interaction of that force upon another object Light is a wave – cannot measure the wave – when light interact with another thing – it is measurable as a particle – why – because the impact carries momentum (weight) – we can measure that interaction and calculate the weight of the particle – and that weight is expresses and - one quantum unit of energy h=l/v – one quantum unit of E = PLANKs CONSTANT The Simplest Math Problem No One Can Solve - Collatz Conjecture
Math's Fundamental FlawCorrect – base 10 system is flawed – because it cannot de divided by 3 My father's word game1- 3 guys check into a hotel – the night clerk charges them $30 – each guy paid $10 2- the day clerk discovers the room was only $25 3- so he takes $5 back to the 3 guys – 4- cannot to it mathematically – so each guy took $1 – and gave the clerk a $2 tip 5- now each guy paid $9 = $27 + the clerk has a $2 tip = $29 Question – what happened to that 30th dollar? Why the movement toward digital currency
Why is tax and interest calculated always with odds numbers Answer – the rounding rule in math – allows the banks to keep all those fractions of pennies Banks make BILLIONs each year with the rounding rules Base 8 – works very well in abstract calculus Computers are Base 2 – cannot calculated the area of a circle – repeating decimals forever Computer solution – SIG FIGS (significant figures) computers just stop once they reach a per-determined stopping point In scientific math - 5.0 x 2.125489873952472 = is limited to 1 decimal point (rule of sig figs) R" Therefore maths can never be proved....
R" Therefore mathematical laws can never be proved....THIS IS SO COOL – Weinstein 2018 – Unified Field TheoryImpossible from our dimension – because our dimension is NOT the whole of reality String Theory – sub-atomic particles seems to disappear (violating thermodynamics) String Theory – answer – they do not disappear – they enter another D 20 years later - the same math accuracy defines – cosmic foam (answering thermodynamics) Weinstein – why can’t man from this D totally describe the Unified Field Theory Answer – part of the math – the rest of the equation – lies within another D --------------------- youtu.be/wKBz6qpJBac Stunning Pluto Images Show Something Unusual Going On ThereI did watch this – it touches on some interesting points1 - Do you , Robert, know why Pluto was declassified as a planet? 2- Wright Mons + Piccard mons + Hawaii’s volcano Add – Jupiter’s Great Red Spot + Mars Mons Olympus + hexagonal polar cloud formations – on Jupiter, Saturn, and now Neptune All of this together is the base argument for a new field of physics
Torque-ion Field Theory – this come from: (google) Richard C Hoagland (born April 25, 1945), is an American author and a proponent of various conspiracy theories about NASA, lost alien civilizations on .. 1- watch an old clip of the Apollo moon launch - Richard C Hoagland – is the NASA representative sitting with Walter Cronkite – 100% a NASA inside guy for 25 years 2- He is most famous for exposing the Face on Mars His argument - the face on Mars (discovered 1976) is the most intriguing find in our solar system WHY WON'T NASA SEND THEIR PROBES THERE? The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (2005)The Mars monolith is a rectangular object (possibly a boulder) discovered on the surface of Mars. WHY WON'T NASA SEND THEIR PROBES THERE? 3- His web-site www.enterprisemissions.comTorque-ion Field TheoryIs based upon Pathagerianism - Sacred Math – 100% Jewish Tree of Life The theory is built upon sacred shapes – specifically the inverted tetrahedron    (google) Latitude 19.5* has been found to be associated with various ancient structures here on earth - Giza pyramids, Avebury (the largest stone circle in the world, near Stonehenge), Pyramids of the Sun and Moon at Teotihuacan, etc. Wright Mons + Piccard mons + Hawaii’s volcano - Jupiter’s Great Red Spot + Mars Mons Olympus The Face on Mars = All located at 19.5* lat FYI – China landed on the moon – where 19.5* lat R" Therefore God's Creation can never be certain.... The only thing we can be certain about = 1- each new discovery supports the ORDER of Genesis 2- each new discovery supports scripture WEDD + FD-WEDT + INCREMENTAL CREATION – is 100% scriptural + 100% current science
Intelligent Design recognizes WEDD + FD-WEDT + INCREMENTAL CREATIONCreation science (your Don Patton, Ken Hamm – ICR) is a religious folly – that harms the faith just as much as Darwin has Vegaterian sharks - is NOT Intelligent Design Nothing died brfore Eve sinned - is NOT Intelligent Design Everything changed their programming affter Even sinned - is NOT Intelligent Design Fossils were all butrried at once by the Flood and God was nice enough to burry them in the correct order - is NOT Intelligent Design Creation science (your Don Patton, Ken Hamm – ICR) is a religious folly – that harms the faith just as much as Darwin has
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Post by Dave on Apr 26, 2022 15:02:30 GMT -5
Weather modifications
United Nations Openly Discussing Weather Modification, Chemtrails & Geoengineering
More than 50 weather modifications across the USA (2014)Chemically altered shot into the air, or placed their from planes.The people who operate the plane are not involved – the additives are in the fuel
The conspiracy is BIG OILHow do these changes affect our microclimates?(google) High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program The High-frequency Active Auroral Research Program was initiated as an ionospheric research program jointly funded by the U.S. Air Force, the U.S. Navy, the University of Alaska Fairbanks, and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. It was designed and built by BAE Advanced Technologies. Location: Gakona, Alaska, United States Established: 1993 J. Marvin Herndon said - At least as far back as the 1990s The point of the conspiracy then = particles (not necessarily metals) in the atm Then bombard them with high frequency energy = weather control as a weaponchemicals like sulphur to help the planet not go through climate change.1990s – Al Gore had not yet coin the new fear topic – Global Warming 1990s – weather control as a weapon - now the war against global warming (for the benefit of mankind – right?) Chemcial show up in our drinking water. FOund spiking in strontium, barium and aluminium chemicals across the USA.THIS IS ONLY ONE FACT OF MANY1- the #1 pollutant at the mouth of centennial rivers – like the Mississippi – or the Nile = Automobile break dust and latex 2- every fish in the ocean probably contains plastic particles 3- The ABSOLUTE HIGHEST concentration of Fukashima fall out was not Japan – it was Boulder Colorado 2011 and 2013 4- Black Rain in Brazil = radioactive dust from Japan 5- the largest chuck of Fukushima core was discovered in Scotland (28 grams) 6- every human being today contains a piece of Chernobyl 7- 2014 the Japanese rice industry was about to collapse – The NRC changed the toxic contamination levels and allowed mixing Contaminated rice was diluted with good rice until it passed inspection and sold to the WORLD! THIS IS ONLY ONE FACT OF MANY
Just where are we on this curve – we are approaching a global social readjustment that will see most of humanity KULLED – are we approaching biblical End of Days?
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Post by Dave on Apr 26, 2022 16:01:09 GMT -5
As I speak we in Queensland Australia have been told by Robert Deutsch that we will get rain for 10 days. Today we are 3 days in with drizzle all day, our batteries are flat, no sunshine and we have flood in my backyard 6 to 12 inches deep. Nothing to do all day, too wet. Last night we got another 60mm of rain, or chemcial rain as Robert calls this.
1- I live like that a lot – don’t even bother with the batteries – just run the generator – supply my needs and keep my bats floating happy
I use a generator anyway – for my power tools
I can drag my generator anywhere I need it
2- I am CLIMATE CHANGE – NOT GLOBAL WARMING DUE TO MAN
Man’s impact to pollution is obvious – however man is only a tiny part in a larger system
In the 2000s when polar ice caps shrank – the also shrank on Mars and Io – maybe Gamamead (memory)
GLOBAL WARMING DUE TO MAN predictions have all failed
Answer – the ocean ate my homework – the increased CO2 was absorbed by the ocean to become a small fraction of 1% more acidic
Man’s impact to pollution is obvious – however man is only a tiny part in a larger system
The Dark Ages in Europe – crops failed – blizzards – population declined
Cause – Ilopango erupted between 500 and 545 C.E. Based on atmospheric circulation patterns, the researchers estimate that the eruption actually occurred in the fall of 539 C.E.
The Little Ice Age was a period of bitter winters and mild summers that affected Europe and North America between the 14th and 19th centuries.
Like the 1815 Mount Tambora eruption—the deadliest volcanic eruption on record—this eruption was big enough to alter global climate patterns, causing years of famine. What exactly did the first 18 months of darkness look like?
Man’s impact to pollution is obvious – however man is only a tiny part in a larger system
(google) Do solar flares affect climate?
Short-lived solar explosions don't influence weather events like the March 2012 heat wave, but longer-term variations in solar output might affect Earth's climate.
(google) How does solar minimum affect weather?
By solar minimum, we mean the lowest number of sunspots. After some years of high activity, the Sun will ramp down with fewer sunspots or almost no sunspots. The temperature cools. Conversely, solar maximum is the highest number of sunspots in any given cycle
Man’s impact to pollution is obvious – however man is only a tiny part in a larger system
GLOBAL WARMING DUE TO MAN – has nothing to do with climate
It is all about the transfer of wealth
America shuts down a steel mill because it is dirty – Chine opens another dirty steel mill
DOW Chemicals is American – but their factories are in Mexico and India
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He told us not to drink the rain, and yet it falls into our drinking water tank. So what do we do?
What do we do – We recognizes what is in our sight!
AND WITNESS TO WHAT WE SEE – the hand of God – scripture come to life
Israel has been recall from all the nations of the globe – all scriptural prophecy
Israel is reliving the ahl – approaching Ezk 38 – all scriptural prophecy
The world is poised for – petulance and famine – all scriptural prophecy
All of the ‘other-gods’ – the Jewish shedim – the Greek Archon- were all placed in the Kaba by Mohammad around 630AD and he declared – Allah their supreme leader
Today Islam is divided by a civil war – shia vrs sunni – Persia vrs Saudi Arabia
Saudi Arabia and sunni Islam have entered the Abrahamic Accords
Persia and shia Islam have entered an Persia-China alliance
King of the North vrs King of the South
All of it – anywhere you look = scriptural prophecy - scripture come to life
All of it – anywhere you look = Intelligent Design – of the past and future
All of it – anywhere you look = scripture come to life – WEDD + FD-WEDT + INCREMENTAL CREATION = Intelligent Design – of the past and future + scriptural prophecy =
On any scale – Psa 19:2 – Rom 1:20 – current events – history – on any planet you look – at any time you look
All of it – anywhere you look = scriptural - scripture come to life
Scripture is not a work of religious fiction – it is Intelligent Design
Wake up and recognized the Intelligent Designer – there is Only One True God
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2022 16:35:42 GMT -5
Really interesting comments Dave
The math's problem is really hard to figure out? Can math's count zero as a dollar coin?
Is that the answer?
I would like to research how toxic strontium, barium and aluminium is to our crops, and human life?
I am nearly ready to start our USA made water distillation system, to remove metal poisons from our fresh water tanks, for drinking. It has a 1500 W heating element and claims lots of litres per day.
What do you do with town folk drinking chlorine, fluoride and aluminium (alum) every day in the city water supply? Feel sorry for them, I have avoided this since 1981.
D"Scripture is not a work of religious fiction – it is Intelligent Design
R" I would suggest you do not use this term "Intelligent Design", it is a man made word with various meanings, something we they do not still accept GOD as the ultimate intelligent designer.
However this thread is about climate change, so let's stick to the topic at hand.
After COV19 goes away, their next agenda is climate change. But they themselves are spoiling the climate on earth intentionally....? Have done for years, as you point out.
I always thought if you make more CO2 than the plants should grow more vigorously? SO what is the problem?
Our problem is the removal of trees from earth.... simple really
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Post by Dave on Apr 26, 2022 18:48:02 GMT -5
I am nearly ready to start our USA made water distillation system, to remove metal poisons from our fresh water tanks, for drinking. It has a 1500 W heating element and claims lots of litres per day.
YEP – better protect that biology – focus upon the world – worry about drinking water and the air you breath
Will you filter the air next
Do you know the story of the boy that lived in a bubble
D"Scripture is not a work of religious fiction – it is Intelligent Design
R" I would suggest you do not use this term "Intelligent Design", it is a manmade word with various meanings,
Sure Robert – argue vocabulary – miss the point entirely
However this thread is about climate change, so let's stick to the topic at hand.
I have said all I care to about climate change
I always thought if you make more CO2 than the plants should grow more vigorously? SO what is the problem?
Our problem is the removal of trees from earth.... simple really
You are so amazing gullible
Stop getting you facts from a cereal box
(google) Are there more trees in the world today than 100 years ago?
True or False: There are more trees today than there were 100 years ago. The good news is that the answer is a resounding “TRUE”! According to the Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2022 5:40:11 GMT -5
D" You are so amazing gullible
Stop getting you facts from a cereal box
(google) Are there more trees in the world today than 100 years ago?R" I had to look this up, wow, more trees today than 100 years ago ? Are you for real? Run Google Earth and have a look at Australia in the 1700 and compare it to 2022. We have lost over 70% of our tree cover, mostly gigantic trees too, hundreds of years old and huge. Have a look at Brazil. England has lost nearly all its Oak trees, thousands used to a single wooden ship. Some countries are planting plantations, china has gum trees, USA have gum trees, and we in Australia have USA pine trees, they grow really fast too. Started Strontium today...big subject... D" YEP – better protect that biology R" I forgot, you don't care about health rules do you? It must be hard growing your own food through the winter? We have trouble with birds eating things. We have planted 91 fruit trees adding to some trees we already have, some are over 50 years old and very big. What do you see as the main concerns for this climate change? youtu.be/v__QMoIRQeE An Australian new article (5 minutes) The latest monster "Methane. Shalom |
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Post by Dave on Apr 27, 2022 9:41:13 GMT -5
D"You are so amazing gullible
Stop getting you facts from a cereal box
(google) Are there more trees in the world today than 100 years ago?
R" I had to look this up, wow, more trees today than 100 years ago ? Are you for real?
If you looked it up – you didn’t do a very good job
No one stopped run away forest fires centuries ago
No one thought of trees as a crop to plant centuries ago
No one considered shrubs and bushes necessary around every home and walk way
Have a look at Brazil.
Run Google Earth and have a look at Australia in the 1700 and compare it to 2022.
Robert would inform me that Google Earth cannot know anything about 1700
Run Google Earth look at Israel – look at China – look at the Dominican Republic – look at Phoenix Arizona
We have lost over 70% of our tree cover, mostly gigantic trees too, hundreds of years old and huge.
England has lost nearly all its Oak trees, thousands used to a single wooden ship.
Are you talking about old growth forest – or trees in total – make up your mind
The issue at hand by evironmentalist - O2 production?
D"YEP – better protect that biology
R" I forgot, you don't care about health rules do you?
It is not that I do not care – but I am a agl/NT Christian – I do not have religion mandated dietary restrictions –
Mat 15:11 It’s not what goes into the mouth that makes the man unholy; but what comes out of the mouth, this makes the man unholy.”
Mar 7:15 There is nothing outside the man that can make him unholy by going into him. Rather, it is what comes out of the man that makes the man unholy.”
It must be hard growing your own food through the winter?
If the world came to an end today – we could live of chicken and eggs + stashed away military MREs for about 1yr
We have trouble with birds eating things.
We have pack rats – mice – and new to me in Colorado – VOLES
We are 12 volt – I run 12v bug/rodent repelling frequency generators – every vehicle has one – and my electronics room has one – each one cost $15
Do they work – I had some that were a waste of money
Last year - some were recommended to me – they were affordable so I tried them
We still see an occasional mouse dropping – but no damage
What do you see as the main concerns for this climate change?
You do mean – in what way am I afraid if it – I am not AFRAID
What the sun does with our solar system – man is not going to change it
What the hand of God puts before us – man is not going to change it
The main concern – is recognizing The Hand of God in it
The current trend in climate change = a global food shortage in the near future
It will and has leads to war over farm land
(google) What crops does Ukraine produce?
These top five markets accounted for more than 60% of Ukraine's agricultural exports. Ukraine has six primary products with over a billion dollars in export sales: corn ($5.8 billion), sunflower seed ($5.7 billion), wheat ($5.1 billion), rapeseed ($1.7 billion), barley ($1.3 billion) and sunflower meal ($1.2 billion).
Ukraine produces 30% of the world wheat
It will lead to famine – and that will lead to pestilence - It is scripture come to life right before our eyes –
What do you see as the main concerns for this climate change?
The main concern – is recognizing The Hand of God in it – God is validating prophesy on a global scale – we as Christian should be falling to our knees and PRAISING GOD FOR IT
The latest monster "Methane. – OLD NEWS
Damn those flatulent cows
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The answer to the Bermuda triangle – missing ships and planes
When methane bubbles burst to the surface – they change the density of the water
A ship in that ;less dense water – just sinks like a rock
At higher altitude – planes loose lift – and stall
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2022 15:58:10 GMT -5
Wow, I never knew that, and we invent devilish tales. Plain old methane gas.
You are right, the sun is beyond our control.
Didn't know about Ukraine making 30% of worlds wheat.
Australia does alot of wheat too, and now since Sep last year, it's allowed to be GMO wheat, one of the first of the countries that does for now.
You say the health of my biology doesn't not matter to the Lord?
If God really did make the essence of us from non matter as a spirit, that proves biology is un-important.
It also proves matter is un-important too.
How can the spirit be extinguished in the lake of fire (matter symbol) when the spirit is not comprised of matter?
If you study Scripture you find it full of biology.
Take the word in Hebrew "chay", where does this meaning come from?
Job 38:39 Wilt thou hunt the prey for the lion? or fill the appetite of the young lions,
To have "chay" is to have "biology in your stomach".
So than we ask what about "chayah" the "ongoing living", where does this meaning come from?
Joh 6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.
59 These things said he in the synagogue, as he taught in Capernaum.
60 ¶ Many therefore of his disciples, when they had heard this, said, This is an hard saying; who can hear it?
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you?
62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before?
63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
64 But there are some of you that believe not.
This passage has both chay and chayah in it, and is became a hard saying to the disciples and many left him. They did not understand the process of amanuah as food, its a biological process of eating "man" (Greek manna) a biological symbol of Jesus, as a divine being.
Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Notice the spirit of Jesus has to dwell inside you as "food" and this is done daily by "amanuah", a faith process, it's a biological process with a spiritual understanding.
So in a nutshell, if you have no respect for the biology of matter, neither will you have respect for the spiritual food of Jesus, since they are similes of each other. We are the dwelling place for the HS of GOD, and for the Spirit of Jesus.
Why does the world wish to push climate change as a world wide agenda? I suppose if you destroy the fabric of food, than you also destroy the fabric of GOD reaching us. The air we breath, the water we drink and the food we eat, are all being systemically destroyed through chemical, radioactive and Genetically modified means.
The other aspect you ignore is the vessel that biology is housing? God's holy words of living. The DNA contains the holy words of living, just as the written torah tries to explain all things using fading ink and fuzzy translation. The writing inside the DNA is more clear and crisp and unspoiled.
Maybe not for long. This is what I feel is what the climate agenda is for, to totally spoil the holy words encoded within our DNA. If this becomes successful than no human will no longer be human, and our ability to commune with ourselves and with God will be lost.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 28, 2022 10:36:08 GMT -5
Wow, I never knew that, and we invent devilish tales. Plain old methane gas. Again with the scientist of WWII Germany – cooking gasoline for the military machine from coal. This chemistry opened a whole new science of petroleum Coal is fractured (chemical term) to release its trapped hydrocarbons that are brewed into long chain hydrocarbons – gas first – and eventually heavy oils 1952 – the German process was repeated in America – and Big Oil killed it immediately Methane – is the simplest hydrocarbon – it is abundant on earth – in earth (FYI) NASA spent million looking for methane on Mars – signs of life (bio farts) Titan has a methane atm with methane lakes on its surface – HELLO! A-biotic Oil TheoryMethane percales within the mantel – becoming trapped beneath the continental plates Where it is cooked under extreme pressures into the thick goo we call crude oil Continued upward percolation = oil fields – that refill over time 2003 Sweden drilled a hole to find this a-biotic oil - it was a failure – Big News – Ha ha Truth – they did find oil – just not enough to do anything with Most oil today in America comes from deep under the ocean floor (google) The world's deepest oil well, known as Z-44 Chayvo, goes over 40,000 ft (12 km) into the ground Far below any fossils Why isn’t A-biotic Oil Theory public knowledge?Answer – Big Oil media hype about Peak Oil – it is a limited supply – we are using the last drops ------------------------ You are right, the sun is beyond our control.Not just the sun – volcanic activity puts more CO2 in the air overnight that man can in a year If you want to worry about the coming climate catastrophe – you should read up about the oceanic current and the desalination of the sea water in the North Atlantic  -------------------- Didn't know about Ukraine making 30% of worlds wheat.Really – Ukraine is the Bread Basket of EurasiaWhat does Putin mean by security? – it is not military safety – it is foodAustralia does alot of wheat too, and now since Sep last year, it's allowed to be GMO wheat, one of the first of the countries that does for now.Answer – earth is over populated – we have overgrown the carrying capacity of the planet This is why money is fiat – and soon to be digital That is why GMOs are required to feed the masses That is why more and more oil is required – pesticides and herbicides South China Sea is about the non-radioactive fishing grounds The planet is approaching a population collapseWar – famine – pestilence ----------------- You say the health of my biology doesn't not matter to the Lord?Not what I said - religious mandated diets – is a ritual to follow – has nothing to do with belief / faith / or knowing the Lord Your health is important as to your witness No respect for yourself does not translate to respect for the Lord Fat people do not have an effective witness to the diet conscious Demanding a vegan lifestyle as a requirement for salvation is NOT CHRISTIAN ----------------- If God really did make the essence of us from non matter as a spirit, that proves biology is un-important.
It also proves matter is un-important too.YES – this is the lesson we must learnThis world of flesh and blood is an illusion – temporary – and will all pass away
We won’t – we are eternalWe are just passing through here – we are spiritual beings having a physical souljourn Some of us – have been here before –a plate is set for Elijah ever Seder Meal How can the spirit be extinguished in the lake of fire (matter symbol) when the spirit is not comprised of matter?Answer – death of spirit – death of your essence – death of the real you God made you – God created you – God can end you Word games about vocabulary are meaningless ------------------ If you study Scripture you find it full of biology.Correct – scripture speaks to man on man’s level – through the ages – scripture is written to animal man We are to Ponder scripture – digest it – think on it – there is more meaning to scripture than just the surface We are all called into a personal relationship with the Creator – spirit to spirit Moses did – Joshua did – Isaiah did – Elisha did – Solomon did – David did- the First Messianic Jews did at Pentecost Ro 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Notice the spirit of Jesus has to dwell inside you as "food" and this is done daily by "amanuah", a faith process, it's a biological process with a spiritual understanding.Correct – and you teach that every man is empower by God – there is no need for Christ to come in again – God directs every one the good and the bad
All of us are Born Again Christians according to youMan is an animal empowered by the HS - thats all - there is no more
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2022 17:27:59 GMT -5
I didn't know we can drill 12 km deep to find oil...wow
You say "This world of flesh and blood is an illusion – temporary – and will all pass away"...
Why than does Scripture say we find Jesus in heaven with his scars in his hands?
Sounds like a biological body to me, Jesus, the divine clothed in humanity.
SO if Jesus is clothed in our old biology, why can't you consider us in heaven clothed in a renewed perfect biological body?
Jesus came to substitute one body for the other. We have His, He has ours?
Isn't that what atonement means?
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Apr 29, 2022 14:14:03 GMT -5
I didn't know we can drill 12 km deep to find oil...wow
COOL - how did all those fossils gets down ther to mke the oil - when oi perk upwardly
It is obvious that you are not current with reality – on many fronts
It is not required – unless you are engaged in condemning reality – then is it really helpful if you know what you’re talking about
You say "This world of flesh and blood is an illusion – temporary – and will all pass away"...
Rev 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth did pass away, and the sea is not any more;
Why than does Scripture say we find Jesus in heaven with his scars in his hands?
1- WHY NOT? – Christ is the Creator YWHY – why do you insist God cannot do stuff?
2- dispensation – is you vision within the New heaven and Earth – on is it our current age?
Sounds like a biological body to me, Jesus, the divine clothed in humanity.
Correct – you deny the spirit – and the spiritual
Yet – you talk about evil spirits from your evil satan angel
You say "This world of flesh and blood is an illusion – temporary – and will all pass away"...
1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16 For everything in the world—the desire of the flesh, the desire of the eyes, and the boasting of life—is not from the Father but from the world.
1Jn 2:17 The world is passing away along with its desire, but the one who does the will of God abides forever.
YES – this physical WORLD is passing away = ENTROPY!
What is sin – choosing WORLD instead of God – want – lust desire (YESTER RA)
There is no need for your god of evil – it is just WORLD! - = The Beast of Revelation
Have you ever heard of the Donner Party?
This is a famous American Western true story – one of many stories just like it
Donner – was the leader of a wagon train heading to California – they left late + winter came early and hard – Families stranded in the Sierra Mountains
Before it was over – 3 men (fathers) were fed to the children to keep them alive
(google) On February 2, 1847, the first woman of a group of pioneers commonly known as the Donner Party dies during the group's journey through a Sierra Nevada mountain pass. The disastrous trip west ended up killing 42 people and turned many of the survivors into cannibals.
Hunger - Starving Children – buried – immobile by miles of snow 3 meters deep
The expression = man compassion gave way to their base animal natures – self-preservation
Animal Nature – (yester ra) – self-preservation and the survival of the species
‘go forth – be fruitful and multiply’ is the commandment upon biology by God
An apple grows – tov
If falls to the ground and rots - ra
But it fertilizes new life - tov
If falls to the ground and rots – ra
A volcano erupts – ra
The lava kills life as it flows – ra
The ash is the absolute BEST growth medium for lust gardens = tov
The lave flows form new islands – tov
The flood destroyed our atm – ra
The flood cracked our planet open like an egg – ra
The flood killed how many – ra
But Noah saved the day – tov
Noah repopulated the earth – tov
Nimrod became a god – ra
God destroyed Babel – ra – or tov God did it
God chose Abraham – tov
Joseph is sold into slavery – RA
ONLY to save Israel – TOV
Jesus Christ gave his mortal life on the CROSS = RA
Jesus Christ was Resurrected = TOV
You are 100% - biology - Animal Nature – (yester ra) – self-preservation and the survival of the species
‘go forth – be fruitful and multiply’ is the commandment upon biology by God
Man is also 100% - spirit – spirit being – spiritual essence – spirit body – light body
I HATE THIS WORD – but to make the point – your Ghost
These two parts together = man the (human being) – (humanoid + being) – (biology/flesh + being)
Man = (yester ra) + SPIRIT which is the seat of (yester tov)
A man of God stood in a furnace – survived a den of lions
Will you run into a burning building to save others?
Paul Romans 7 – that what I know I should do – I don’t
Man – killed God’s one and only Son – He forgives us in an instant and it is absolute
Kill my daughter – could I just let it go?
Paul Romans 7 – that what I know I should NOT do – I DO
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Jesus came to substitute one body for the other. We have His, He has ours?
At the moment of creation – from man’s perspective
God – YHWY – Himself – SPOKE (expressed Himself) – the WORD went out = the our base reality
God – YHWY – Himself - took form (Christ) – God within our base reality
God – as Christ but on FLESH / biology – Son of Man – Jesus
Christ – Son of God + Son of Man Jesus
(Jesus – biology) + (Christ) = Jesus Christ
(Jesus – biology) died on the cross – 100% mortal death
(Christ) returned to the heavens – and continued working witnessing to those from the time of Noah
You will say – and Jesus returned as only biology
I say what biology can walk through walls – appear and disappear – or ascend in to heaven
Scripture answers this specific question
1Jn 3:2 Loved ones, now we are God’s children; and it has not yet been revealed what we will be. But we do know that when it’s revealed, we shall be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.
1Jn 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
What does this mean to me – we will never understand it until we taste it
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Jesus came to substitute one body for the other. We have His, He has ours?
Isn't that what atonement means?
What you ask is a title of a book – more than one way to answer this
For this discussion all I will say =
1Jn 2:2 He is the atonement for our sins, and not only for our sins but also for the whole world.
Your idea of replacement – what is lost? –
1- You are still you only forgiven
2- belief is all that is required – cold or hot – belief + confidence = faith – it is all good
The promise of the Comforter – the baptism of the HS – Christ dwelling within you – Christ partnered with you – Walking in the spirit = a different calling – a deeper calling – become First Fruits
This promise is not promised to anyone – Elisha could spiritually discern – today people would call him a magician – a wizard – a necromancer
He put an entire army in a trance – they woke up at home – and Elisha’s advice was to feed them?
Paul laid on his hands – and other were baptized by the HS
John – traveled forward in time – wrote what he saw
The Call of Judaism – Messianic Christianity – Gnostic Christianity – Christianity in general to be an Elisha – be an Isiah – Be John the Baptist even if the world thinks you’re crazy
Many believe – few are chosen – and some are predestined
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