D"Everyone is waiting for your teaching – here is your chance – teach us the SDA way
R" to be honest with you, the SDA does not know the way either,THANK YOU FOR BIENG HONESTIf you cannot answer they question – then why are so absolutely sure there is no answer?
Many on the SDA have thought of this idea, and sadly think the answer lies in the fact we have not received the baptism of the Holy Spirit, whatever that means?If you are unable to define it (whatever that means) – then why are so absolutely sure it does not exist
You say -
We of God have the HS who teaches us and tutors us to knowWhere is your witness – and why do you mock the witness of others - Christian
Why does the HS teach you to deny all Christian theology in favor of Ellen WhiteYou preach Faith –
Why was Faith not enough for the disciples of Jesus Christ?
Why did Jesus ask them to wait for MORE – a thing called the Baptism of the Holy Spirit We wrote this years before I met you. It is written against a popular new book, about the Baptism of the HS, and I suggest you read all the webpages on it.I read the page – not one word about the spirit or the spiritualThe Author can see already that in order to support Jesus correctly we have to "eat His growing goodness garden" in the physical sense, before we can even begin to "receive the powerful flow of Jesus in a spiritual sense" into our "living energy"Blah blah blah religious talkI read the page – not one word about the spirit or the spiritualR" to be honest with you, the SDA does not know the way either
So my journey of seeking Jesus was driven from honest seeking, since nobody could show me how to find Jesus.I see – the SDA did not help you find the answer you desire – yet you support it as the only wayIf that well is empty – why is it the only well to look it?The theology / cosmology I embrace – is a spiritual realityActually I see theology / cosmology to be 90% spiritual and unseen
Man – this world – 3D physical creation only occupies 1/10th of the ALL
Man – this world – 3D reality is only an illusion
The David Ike video – each sentence is packed with truths – regardless if he quotes scriptureDavid Ike video 26:43 “what the system has done is to keep from us the nature of the reality we are experiencing, the nature of who we are, and life itself. And in doing so – it has kept us completely in the dark to what is actually happening around us. … 26:17 For instance, we think as we look around here we think we see everything that exist in this room – but in fact we are only seeing a frequency range (a very tiny one) called visible light - anything outside of that, we cannot decode, therefore we cannot see…. “
(different realities sharing the exact same space – what science call parallel universes
Judeo-Christianity call them heavens (pl) – quantum/string theory calls them dimensions)David Ike video 28:08 “just outside the frequency range of visible light, there are entities that are anything but human – and they have been manipulating this reality from the outside for eons”
What is the larger reality that you miss / or fail to understand / fail to recognize / fail to acknowledge
This is just my simple version – as plain as I can make itDavid Ike video 45:15 “The system, when you study it, from cradle to grave – be it education, media, all these things – EVEN RELIGION to a large extent – is designed to pull our focus of attention into body mind. … The more entrapped you are in body mind perception – ie, the five senses – it is all about pulling us into the 5 senses – listen to this, taste this, feel this – it all about pulling us into the 5 senses”
David Ike’s point – is such an important point to consider
The system want you focused here – where you cannot connect the dots – cannot see the big picture
But if you open your mind to a larger reality – more of the dots connect and you can see the larger reality more clearly
What is that larger reality that I see? – my Judeo-Christina larger reality1- Gods creation is so much larger than you are willing to consider
2- Gen 1:1 God created the HEAVENSEvery Jewish commentary speak of a GAP in time here – the timing of Day 1 is different than Days 2-6
Gnostic – this was the First Age – the age before physical creation
All of the host of heaven were created (Gen 2:1-2)
All the angels were there – and all men were there
Jer 4:23 I looked at the earth and behold, it was deserted and desolate, and at the heavens and they had no light.
Jer 4:24 I looked at the mountains—behold, they were shaking and all the hills swaying to and fro.
Jer 4:25 I looked and behold, no people! All the birds of the sky had fled.
Jer 4:26 I looked and behold, the fruitful field was a wilderness and all of its cities were in ruins before Adonai, before His fierce anger.
Jer 4:27 For thus says Adonai, “The whole land will be wasteland, yet I will not totally destroy it.
Jer 4:28 Therefore, the earth will mourn and the heavens above grow black. For I have spoken, I have purposed, nor will I relent, nor turn from it.
Ecc 3:1 For everything there is a season and a time for every activity under heaven:
Ecc 3:15 Whatever exists, has already been and whatever will be, has already been, but God recalls what has passed.
Ecc 1:10 Is there anything about which is said, “Look! This is new!”? It was already here long ago, in the ages long before us.
Ecc 1:11 There is no remembrance for former things, and things yet to come will not be remembered by those who follow.
POINT – Jewish commentary and Gnostic Nag Hammadi commentary say – a lot happened during this First Age
For the Jews – this is the time when Adam and Lilith fathered Beelzebub and the shedim
For the Gnostic – this was the time of the Perfect Race of man = Adamus
Everything of this Heavenly age was ETHEREAL (Before physical creation!)
David Ike video 44:07 – we (man) in our prime state = consciousness – eternal self – soul
Man = ethereal spirit – a spirit being – created by God as a spirit being – unique independent individual
Angels = ethereal spirit – a spirit being – created by God as a spirit being – unique independent individuals
3- How did the First Age end?Archon = ethereal spirit mixed with some matter – a spirit being mixed with some matter – created by God as a spirit being mixed with some matter – unique independent individuals
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens
and the earth.Judaism – the lower world was created – the physical world
Gnostic – physical creation – 3D reality – the realm of physical – corporeal
Gnostic James, John, and Peter all say – the first physical thing created only thought of physical self
agl/NT John says – the Great Red Dragon that consumes and devours just appeared (Rev 12)
agl/NT John says the Great red Dragon = the serpent – who is called the devil and the satanas
Gnostic James, John, Paul, Peter, Phillip, and Thomas call them Archon
agl/NT Paul and Luke call them Principalities
POINT – ancient Gnostics saw this physical WORLD as the corruption - ie, the physical world is ra
Nag Hammadi Gnostic says – the First Archon was the first sentient creation – ie, the physical world is innocent – the Archon are the first to THINK – and that first THOUGHT = SELF = selfishness
POINT – this is a completely different story than Hebrew Satan, who is an angel of the Lord – in service to God – the heavenly prosecutor
This is the Beast of revelation – the serpent RACE of beings – called devils and satanasDavid Ike's video 43:46 –
“it is obvious – we live in a virtual reality” – a 3 dimensional holographic illusionANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT all physical things are composed of tiny packets of non-thing energyA FACT discussed in modern scientific literature – is our reality a hologram
A Fact supported by the duality of a photon – is it a wave or a thing? – It is a wave that acts like a thing!
A fact supported by quantum/string theory – do sub atomic particle disappear violating the laws of thermodynamics – no – they enter a different dimension
A fact supported by the Periodic Table – 7 energy levels all co-existing in the exact same locality to form our 3D reality
10D of space
Enoch journey into heaven = 10 heavens
Pauls journey into heaven = 10 heavens
Multi-dimensionality
1st dimension = a singularity that can never be located – but contains all power, and all knowledge
2nd dimension – the planar reality that form the matrix, ether, medium that sustains the ALL – omnipresent – ethereal spirit – the spirit of God – the 1st D at a distance / God at a distance
3rd dimension = physical creation as we know it (God in physical form – the 3D image of God)
AND – 4th dimension near our 3D + 5, - 10
All 6 of these realities, dimension, heaven are filled with life forms – many – doing many things
All in addition to our 3D reality and all the life forms here
Eze 1:4 I looked, and behold, a storm wind came from the north, a great cloud with flashing fire and brightness all around it, and something like a glowing alloy out of the fire.
Eze 1:5 From within it came the likeness of four living creatures. This was their appearance: they had a likeness of a human,
Eze 1:6 but each one had four faces and each one of them had four wings.
Eze 1:7 Their legs were straight and the soles of their feet were like the hoof of a calf. They sparkled like the color of burnished bronze.
Eze 1:8 They had human hands under their wings on their four sides. The four of them had faces and wings:
Eze 1:9 their wings touched one another; they did not turn when they moved; each could move in the direction of any of its faces.
Eze 1:10 As for the form of their faces, each had a human face, the four had the face of a lion on the right side, the four had the face of an ox on the left side and the four had the face of an eagle.
Eze 1:11 Such were their faces. Their wings were spread out above. Each creature had two wings touching the wing of another, while another two were covering their bodies.
Eze 1:12 Now each being could move in the direction of any of its faces; wherever the Ruach would go, they went, without turning as they went.
Eze 1:13 As for the form of the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, resembling torches moving between the living creatures. There was brightness to the fire, and lightning went forth from the fire.
Eze 1:14 The living creatures were running back and forth like flashes of lightning.
Eze 1:15 As I looked at the living creatures, behold, one wheel was on the ground next to each of the four-faced creatures.
Eze 1:16 The appearance and structure of the wheels was like the gleaming of beryl. The four had the same likeness, their appearance and their structure seemed to be a wheel within a wheel.
Eze 1:17 When they went, they went in any of their four directions without pivoting as they went.
Eze 1:18 Their rims were high and awesome—all four rims were full of eyes all around.
Eze 1:19 When the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them. When the living creatures rose from the earth, the wheels rose.
Eze 1:20 Wherever the Ruach wanted to go, they went, in the direction the Ruach wanted to go. The wheels rose along with them, for the spirit of the living creatures was in the wheels.
POINT – this is a vision
These angelic being are not 3D physical creatures – they are multidimensional
Interesting Point – one of the faces is of an eagle. – one of the forms is an UNCLEAN animal form
POINT –The wheels within the wheels are not a vehicles – the spirits moved wherever they wanted – and the wheels went with them
Eze 1:19 When the living creatures went, the wheels went beside them. When the living creatures rose from the earth, the wheels rose.
Eze 1:19 And when the living creatures went, the wheels went by them: and when the living creatures were lifted up from the earth, the wheels were lifted up.
POINT - what are the wheels within wheels = orbits within orbits – Ezekiel is given a vision of the cosmos
POINT – each orbit is filled with eyes watching us – each is filled with life forms
Eze 1:18 Their rims were high and awesome—all four rims were full of eyes all around.
Eze 1:18 As for their rings, they were so high that they were dreadful; and their rings were full of eyes round about them four.
Enoch – tells of a very full and active heavenly realms – 10 heavens – each filled with activity and life forms – to see the face of God 3D Enoch entered heavens 8,9,10
Paul tells of 10 heavens – all filled and active with life forms
Today – scientists at CERN are attempting to contact intelligence in another dimension
All religions of the globe has a spiritual reality – spirits, angels, demons, satans, angels, and evils spirits – many spirits – many fairies, kachinas, etc etc
THE POINT = There is a larger reality than man can possible imagine – spread out over 7 dimensions of space / realms of reality / heavens / parallel universes all filled with life forms – all very active How does this fit our Christian experience?God is in the highest heaven and the angels there serve and praise God
The expression – I am in 7th heaven is a Jewish expression – meaning near to God
The lower world = 3D physical creation
The dimension / heaven / reality nearest to or 3D (4D maybe) = home of the archon
They are close enough to come into our 3D world - yet different enough that we cannot see them in their 4D form
You preach Faith –
Why was Faith not enough for the disciples of Jesus Christ?
Why did Jesus ask them to wait for MORE – a thing called the Baptism of the Holy SpiritAnswer – man is a spirit being having a physical experience
Man’s spirt is NOT divine – it is not a spark of God – it is a free and independent ethereal spirit being
Adamus – The Perfect Race of Man + Gen 2:7 = Adam
Gen 2:7 = (Adamus – a spirit being (meaning ethereal)) + (animal)
Gen 2:7 = (the spirit of man)+(animal)
Why was Faith not enough for the disciples of Jesus Christ?Answer – their belief was all based upon physical evidence – they saw with their eyes – Thomas touched with his finger – some even saw the Transfiguration – some saw the ascension
Their belief was all based upon physical evidenceDid they believe – absolutely
Did they have faith – absolutely
Did they support Jesus Christ – absolutely
Did they hold their belief with strong conviction – absolutely
Did they have JOY - absolutely
Why was Faith not enough for the disciples of Jesus Christ?Answer - Their belief was all based upon physical evidenceThere is absolutely nothing wrong with belief or faith – if it is in YHWY / ChristWhy did Jesus ask them to wait for MORE – a thing called the Baptism of the Holy SpiritAnswer – physical evidence becomes spiritual witness
Answer – belief is replaced with PERSONAL FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE
Answer - with the Baptism of the Holy Spirit comes GIFTS
Answer – this is a PERSONAL EXPERIENCE
Is this something you can earn by practicing faith until you grow into it – NO
It is a GIFT
How do you get it – believe and ask
If you ask – sometimes the answer is no
A GIFT is given not demanded – and sometimes the GIFT is given to those who never asked – Paul – Moses
Why don’t you understands this – you deny the spirit
All you see and teach is biology – you even have biology in heavenHave You Been Baptized in The Holy Spirit? | Derek PrinceI agree with 95% of this video – never heard of this guy before – but he says many truths
I agree with most of his teaching Who is he – a Pentecostal from the Netherlands
Pentecostal means – based upon Presbyterianism from Calvin
Or Baptism of the Holy Spirit Presbyterians that believe in predestination and dispensation
(ie, some are called – some are called / predestined – and everything in God’s time)
The SDA is from a “Your going to hell Baptist background” – which is Lutheran – and replaces predestination and dispensation with Free Will and the ability to control your own fate
(ie, it is up to each man to find God on his own and man can change the planet’s fate – the future – through prayer)
All Peterist are from this theology
(ie, all future prophesy – has already happened in the past)
All Sethians come from this camp
(ie, no angels – Gen 6 was about other men – the line of Seth)
His web-site about page - Word and SpiritAs DPM (Derek Prince Ministries) Netherlands, we can connect people in the Netherlands and Belgium to the power of God's Word and the work of His Spirit. Typical of Derek's teaching is that God's Word and the work of the Holy Spirit must always go together. Derek said, “You can prepare a sermon or study that is completely Biblical, but without breath, without Spirit, no life will come out of it. So the spoken word and the Spirit must work together.” We have reflected this in our logo by combining the image of the dove as God's Spirit with the image of a book as God's Word.
I agree with 95% of this video – never heard of this guy before – but he says many truths
I agree with most of his teachingWhat I disagree with
1- His congregation had Christmas Trees – not my teaching
2- He says – “speaking in tongues” is the ONLY GIFT – it is the ONLY SEALMy experience with the Pentecostal church in Indiana – they made it a closed club – a private club – they were more special than those who did not speak in tongues – if you did not speak in tongues you were not sealed – a closed tongues only group
My rebuttal – GIFTS are relative to the need – whatever helps the mission of Jer 1:5
At the time of the First Century – tongues were a necessary tool to witness
He is wrong to say – it was the only GIFT given – Healing with the Hands was also a Gift – and the promise of teaching / being taught
Today – different gifts are more subtle
(google) The gifts of the Holy Spirit are tongues, wisdom, understanding, counsel, fortitude, knowledge, piety, and fear of the Lord. While some Christians accept these as a definitive list of specific attributes, others understand them merely as examples of the Holy Spirit's work through the faithful.
All it took was for one Hebrew to meet Jesus Christ on the road to Damascus to change the Roman Empire
All it takes is for one Muslim to meet Christ on the way to Damascus to touch 100s if not 1000s of other Muslims today
I have worked in Medicine for 28 years – some people are gifted with understanding and compassion way beyond me – their life witness touches 1000s over the years
Mother Teresa never spoke in tongues – yet touched a nation and the world
St Francis of Assi – if you do not know his biography you NEED TO – a real Born Again Spirit Filled Christian in the heart of Catholicism - spoke in tongues – touched a nation and the world – stopped a Crusade – converted 1000s of MuslimsDonald Trump - did not get to be who he is or where he was without the hand of God
touched a nation and changed the world
Has Donald Trump spoke in tongues? His personal spiritual adviser does – every sermon – out loud jibber jabber tongues on national television – TODAY
The world loves to mock him – his FAITH – Christianity – and Jesus ChristPaula White's Re-Election Prayer For Donald Trump Ft. Lil KC REMIX – WTFBRAHHAs for your criticism of glossolalia(google) glos·so·la·li·a - the phenomenon of (apparently) speaking in an unknown language, especially in religious worship. It is practiced especially by Pentecostal and charismatic Christians.
You forget – the larger reality - our witness is on full display – our witness is to the heavens as well – our witness is also to the Archon – and the WORLDMat 18:10 “See that you do not despise one of these little ones, for I tell you that their angels in heaven continually see the face of My Father in heaven.
1Co 4:9 For it seems to me that God has put us, the emissaries, on display last of all—like men sentenced to death. For we have become a spectacle to the world, both to angels and to people.
Heb 13:2 Do not neglect to show hospitality to strangers—for in doing so, some have entertained angels without knowing it.
Just because you do not understand the language – does not mean someone else does – perhaps angels or archon
Have I spoke in tongues – NO – it is not my gift
Am I comfortable with any group that wants to own the religion – NO
Will I speak against it – not a chance!
Why won’t I speak against it – because it is 100% scriptural
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Rephrase another wayReality is a 10 dimensional thing – our 1/10th of it is a 3D hologram / virtual reality
We enter the game (Contest) in an avatar called 3D biology
When the biological avatar dies its holographic mortal death we are released back into heaven for judgment
This world is an illusion – a holographic projection of tiny packets of energy – it will all pass away
But we are ethereal spirit beings not of this 3D world – we continue
We continue as ethereal spirit beings – until the final judgment – the death of spirit beings – man, archon, Beast
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Man is created in the image of God
An ethereal spirit being - that came to earth as a man to witness – then returned to the heavens
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What’s the point – to witness God’s Glory to all the WORLD and heavensWhat is the judgment – how well we did our assignment – to witness to all the world and heavens
What is fair – to each man his due – and the First resurrection into salvation
Is belief in YHWY and Jesus as the messiah enough – YES
Is there another level of discipleship – YES – the baptism of the HS and the GIFTS it brings
Is this secrete knowledge – NO
Is it open only to a few – NO
Is it the same for everyone – NO – One size never fits all in fairness
Is this next level of discipleship necessary for salvation – NO
So what is the point of this next level of discipleship – EMPOWERED WITNESS!Is the baptism of the Holy Spirit only an agl/NT thing – NOMany of the ahl/OT had personal relationships with God on a one on one bases – personal experience – personal knowledge – we call them prophets because of it
Elisha could spiritually discern – his servant could not see it
I believe scripture - axe heads floated in the river – Daniel survived the Lion’s Den –
I believe Scripture - Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego survived a burning furnace
I believe scripture and 2 Kings 6:15-23 is 100% magical / mystical / against physical logic
2Ki 6:15 Now when the attendant of the man of God had risen early and gone out, behold, an army with horses and chariots was surrounding the city. So his attendant said to him, “Alas, my master! What are we going to do?”
2Ki 6:16 “Fear not,” he replied, “for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.”
2Ki 6:17 Then Elisha prayed and said, “Adonai, please open his eyes that he may see.” Then Adonai opened the eyes of the young man and he saw, and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.
2Ki 6:18 When they came down to him, Elisha prayed to Adonai and said, “Please strike this people with blinding light.” So He struck them with blinding light according to the word of Elisha.
2Ki 6:19 Then Elisha said to them, “This is not the road, nor is this the city. Follow me, and I will lead you to the man whom you seek.” So he led them to Samaria.
2Ki 6:20 Upon their arrival in Samaria, Elisha said, “Adonai, open the eyes of these men, that they may see.” So Adonai opened their eyes, and they could see—behold, they were in the middle of Samaria.
2Ki 6:21 When the king of Israel saw them, he said to Elisha, “Shall I surely strike them down, Avi?”
2Ki 6:22 “Don’t strike them down,” he replied. “Would you strike down those whom you have captured with your own sword and bow? Set before them bread and water that they may eat and drink and go back to their master.”
2Ki 6:23 So he prepared a great feast for them. After they had eaten and drunk, he sent them away, and they went back to their master. Ever since, the marauding bands of Aram stopped invading the land of Israel.
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So what about agl/NT Chaldean satan - the real enemy – archon – all of them a multi-face-attackDavid Ike video 45:15 “The system, when you study it, from cradle to grave – be it education, media, all these things – EVEN RELIGION to a large extent – is designed to pull our focus of attention into body mind. … The more entrapped you are in body mind perception – ie, the five senses – it is all about pulling us into the 5 senses – listen to this, taste this, feel this – it all about pulling us into the 5 senses”
David Ike’s point – is such an important point to consider
The system want you focused here – where you cannot connect the dots – cannot see the big picture
The Hypostasis of the Archons – The Nag Hammadi LibraryMoreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.
Nag Hammadi Library Archon are 100% ahl/OT – they are called Beelzebub, shedim, Lilith, and the ‘other gods’ of the Levant
Nag Hammadi Library Archon are 100% agl/NT - Rev 12:9 … the great dragon … the ancient serpent, called the devil and satanas
Nag Hammadi Library Archon are 100% the other-gods of all the world – all pagan gods = archon – all pagan spirits = archon – all space gods = archon – all UFO aliens are archon
Rev 12:9 … the great dragon … the ancient serpent, ...
who deceives the whole world.
