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Post by Dave on Nov 17, 2021 11:29:48 GMT -5
Robert says – “Gnosticism is huge and alarming/interesting/controversial”The Omega Deception- - aka the Omega ConspiracyDefinition – once you uncover a conspiracy – you learn it was just part of a larger conspiracy – which is just part of a larger conspiracy - which is just part of a larger conspiracy - Rob comments, This Gnostic rise of a new view, may be what EGW warns as the omega deception. So you have my attention now. www.fulcrum7.com/blog/2019/1/16/the-omega-youre-soaking-in-itEllen G. White makes very few comments about the Omega heresy; most are found in Selected Messages, Book 1. She writes, “Be not deceived; many will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. We have now before us the alpha of this danger. The omega will be of a most startling nature,” {1SM 197.4}. She is warning us that the Omega will be big and horrible and will deceive many in the SDA church. 1- It began with Copernicus = “Conflict Thesis” = science and religion are at odds 2- Aggravated by the church holding back medicine = “Conflict Thesis” 3- Brought home by Darwin and the resulting RELIGION of Evolution 4- 1925 Scopes Trial – Evolution in school – God out 5- Coupled with the Big Bang of Physics – and promoted throughout the world by education 6- WWII America become the world leader in education and science by default 7- The common man today is too educated to accept church doctrine 8- the church has FAILED – even tried to keep pace with the education trend 9- Today American and the WEST lead the race to – walk away from the faith 10- the Reality of scripture has been replace with the education of science As a reward – Roman chapter 1 – America leads the way in LYGBT crap - As it is written WHY? Easy answer – FAITH has not been taught as FAITH The Roman Edit replaced FAITH with RELIGION and dependency on the church TODAY – RELIGION as presented is an empty message and fraught with Catholic Mythology TODAY – people are too educated to be RELIGIOUS So they walk away from the church and faith They throw the baby out with the bath water It is correct to escape religious posturing and just believe the evidence How can any intelligent person not realize that Rom 1:19 + Psa 19:2 + Reality + History + unbiased science all point to an Intelligent Design and therefore a Designer STOP ARGUING AGAINST REALITY – just to hold onto a church doctrine written by man The theory of Gnosticism is huge and alarming/interesting/controversial. THE REALITY of the ARCHON is alarming! – Because it is very real and alive Eph 6:12 For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places. The theory of Gnosticism is huge and alarming/interesting/controversial. Gnosticism is not a theory – it is an open mindSometimes we need to see ourselves through another’s eyes – another perspectiveRECOGNISE WHAT IS IN YOUR SIGHT – Things are not as they seem and organized religion is not as pure as you believeYou ask for video evidence of the archon – I have done my best Any video that does not preach One True Creator and God is Absolute is evidence of the archon message to humanity Any video calling you to me Buddhist and you can do it all on your own is an archon message because it is the religion/gods of the 99% Any video calling you to accept that god was once a man the evolved is an archon message Any video saying Christ and satan are twin brothers is an archon message Any video promoting evolution is an archon message DOSE NOT MATTER HOW CHRISTIAN IT SOUNDS – Unitarian / Jehovah’s Witness My wife is a Filipino – she has other Filipino girlfriends - and one of those husbands had to come over to recently at a wedding to show me a picture of Jesus on his phone – it was Caesar Tiberius I actually – surprise him by saying – OH, you should watch a movie called “Caesar’s Messiah” I already know he was a long time employee of a large church as the music director – but he knows netter now and is 100% vocal atheist (and why he had to show me his phone) Archon - Mind control – a direct attack upon Christianityyoutu.be/zmEScIUcvz0CAESAR'S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus - OFFICIAL VERSION2,003,458 views since Sep 15, 2018 Rome talking about the Roman Edit
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Post by Dave on Nov 22, 2021 1:10:36 GMT -5
The Omega Deception- - aka the Omega ConspiracyDefinition – once you uncover a conspiracy – you learn it was just part of a larger conspiracy – which is just part of a larger conspiracy - which is just part of a larger conspiracy - Robert asked for video evidence of the archon – I have done my best Any video that does not preach One True Creator and God is Absolute is evidence of the archon message to humanity He refused to comment on my suggested David Ike Video He has made no comments about Caesars Messiah What is the Omega Deception – the deception at the end – the replacement – one world religion?FAITH has not been taught as FAITH The Roman Edit replaced FAITH with RELIGION and dependency on the church TODAY – RELIGION as presented is an empty message and fraught with Catholic Mythology TODAY – people are too educated to be RELIGIOUSSo they walk away from the church and faith They throw the baby out with the bath waterIt is correct to escape religious posturing and just believe the evidence How can any intelligent person not realize that Rom 1:19 + Psa 19:2 + Reality + History + unbiased science all point to an Intelligent Design and therefore a DesignerMost Americans – will say they are spiritual but not religious Most Americans – also recognize the error of evolution and embrace an Intelligent Design
BUT – they have had enough religion So without the God of Judeo-Christendom – who could that designer be?youtu.be/Qn0ZRsoLaRk The Secret Mathematical Code in our DNA... Are We a Product of Alien Engineering?The first thing said = man has an instinctive need for ANSWERS about creation and God (yester tov)0:20 – he says faith (belief) can blind you from the truth – Amen!0:25 – he misrepresents creation and creationism – created in an instant 0:30 – YES – fundamentalist – disrespect science and force the people to take sides 0:50 – the SCIENCE of GENETICS – alternatives to evolution views supported by geneticist 1:15 – the complexity of DNA – mandate that a master artisan (demiurge) / designer1:25 – IT CANNOT BE EXPLAINED BY EVOLUTION1:35 – it make more scientific sense if there was an Intelligent Designer2:00 – our DNA has been the exact same since it was created – no evolution2:05 – our DNA code for a “receiver/ antenna” for other worldly intelligence (communion with the HS) or possession3:00 – DNA is from space 3:45 – genetic markers of alien DNA (Gen 6)4:25 – alien DNA = Nobel Prize in Genetics 4:45 – Darwin’s theory has so many holes in it that no serious scientist accepts Darwin today 5:00 – our (Homo sapiens) - lineage of Adam – appeared suddenly – could not have been evolution 5:15 – some momentous event happened in the past that gave man his intellect (Gen 2:7)5:35 – the Big Bang of the brain 6:35 – Rh- blood = proof of alien hybrid DNA7:20 – Rh fetal incompatibility – why would a human attack something that was also human?Evidence that Rh- blood is pure – and Rh+ is alien to us and moms want to reject it Proof of a hybrid line Rh- blood line – pure blood line = only 15% of the world’s population Gen 6:9 These are the genealogies of Noah. Noah was a righteous man. He was blameless among his generation. Noah continually walked with God. Gen 6:11 Now the earth was ruined before God, and the earth was filled with violence. Gen 6:12 God saw the earth, and behold it was ruined because all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth. Mat 24:37 “For just as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 8:50 – Rh- blood types are more prone to spirituality – sensitivity9:15 – Rh+ fetuses have bumps resembling tails – is a lieAll fetuses have bumps resembling tails9:25 – THERE IS NO MISSING LINKFor man or any animal The evolutionary multiple versions of man – is not proof of evolution It is only evidence that man was hybrid in many ways – many forms (Gen 6)10:00 – where are the MISSING LINKS?10:15 – overnight ape turned into man – NO EVOLUTION – suddenly (Homo sapiens) appeared – us – Adam - mankind10:40 – Alien interference with human evolution (Gen 6)10:50 – Alligators – NO EVOLUTION11:00 – are we the result of a more superior intelligence Science admits – NO EVOLUTION Science admits – it must be of Intelligent Design Science admits – it must be of a superior intelligence Science admits – an Intelligent Designer
Who is this Intelligent Designer ? Without the God of church – it must be AliensAnd we come back to Robert's suggested video – The Archon Invasion
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Post by Dave on Nov 22, 2021 11:40:14 GMT -5
What is the Omega Deception – the deception at the end – the replacement religionyoutu.be/s-OJX0dPC5UEx-Witch Warns Witchcraft Expanding, Says Hollywood 'Releasing Spells Over the Viewers'Musician and artist Jenny Weaver shares her incredible testimony of faith despite growing up in an abusive home and delving into witchcraft as a young woman. Now, Weaver warns that those dabbling in Wiccan are trying to unleash spells and it's even infecting Christians and the church. Robert – you deliberately mocked Jenny Weaver in the pastI say she is representative of our Western White Judeo-Christian Culture I thank the Lord for her and I honor her witness for the LordQuestion - Please explain to me why her tesitmony is error?Answer - I would love to hear you answerQuestion - Why are people today UNAFRAID of the archon Answer - because church has become an error filled mythology - people are too educated to be religeous Mat 24:8 But all these things are only the beginning of birth pains. Mat 24:9 Then they will hand you over to persecution and will kill you. You will be hated by all the nations because of My name. Mat 24:10 And then many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one other. Catholic vrs Prodentant vrs Islam - vers science - vers each other - vrs state = divisionism = 2500 types of ChristendomMat 24:11 Many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. 1800s Great Awakening - Miller - Jospeh Smith - Charels Russell - Darwin - and the Book "Confelct Thesis"Mat 24:12 Because lawlessness will multiply, the love of many will grow cold. love will grow cols - desensitation by media - movies, TV, music, law, and educationMat 24:13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. Faith - belief held with strong conviction - as strong as - first hand knowledge (gnosis)Joh 3:6 What is born of the flesh is flesh, and what is born of the Spirit is spirit. 1Ti 4:1 Now the Ruach clearly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, following deceitful spirits and teachings of demons 100% David Ike - mind control - keeping us focused on world1Ti 4:2 through the hypocrisy of false speakers—whose own conscience has been seared. TODAY THIS BURDEN BELONGS TO THE CHURCH AS MUCH AS ANYONEThe Creationist are deniers - as guilty - as athiest deniers Bull Shit = Bull Shit regardless of source - a lie is a lie1Ti 4:3 They forbid people to marry; they command people to abstain from foods (vegan) that God created for the faithful to share with thanksgiving, having come to know the truth. 1Ti 4:4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving; 1Ti 4:5 for it is sanctified through the word of God and prayer. YET - Most educated deny evolution in favor of Intelligent Design YET - Most educated reconise an Intelligent Designer MOST Americans claim to be spiriutal but not religeous Most Americans believe in angels and/or spirits Most Americans are OPEN to intra-dimensional visitation by aliens Most of the world is open to the coming alien invasion - the archon invasionWhich leads us to Roberts suggested video - The Archnon Invasion - which is 100% about scripture and The Reality of the ArchonWhich leads us back to the L. A. Marzuli video - which is 100% scripture - which lead us back to - the Watchers of Enoch - which leads us back to Gen 6 - which lead us to the bane elohiym - who are Archon - the serpent race - the BEAST of REVELATION - the devil - the satanas (of Chaldean origin) Which leads us back to The Reality of the Archon
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 14:30:33 GMT -5
I was in a Christian home, my parents beat me, so I was connected to girls, watched the Craft, four witches, picked on, so used control to get their way. Witch craft turned against them. I won't go that far. SO I studied witch craft spells. In a Christian home, took me down a path, I was in a haunted house, people watched me.
Why are you presenting the power of the rulers of darkness?
We should fight the good fight of amanuah, not worry about the rulers of darkness.
Many will be deceived Jesus warned us, even the very elect.
People go to another source, they want a healing crystal. When Jesus is our healing source.
Rocked to sleep by the enemy.
A lot of young girls are being targeted?
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Nov 23, 2021 4:29:24 GMT -5
Question - Please explain to me why her testimony is error?Answer - I would love to hear you answerQuestion - Why are people today UNAFRAID of the archon Answer - because church has become an error filled mythology - people are too educated to be religious Ok – you proved that you watch at least some of it Please explain to me why her testimony is error?Do you deny reality?I could not tell from your in depth analysis CAESAR'S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus - OFFICIAL VERSION Please comment – there is a lot of truth in this anti-Christian video from the WORLD STILL WAITINGponderingconfusion.proboards.com/post/6591/quote/529David Ike Still WaitingActually, I have been awaiting your response to this video since October 1st, 2019
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 13:59:16 GMT -5
In answer to your first question Dave
In the SDA culture, we are taught to think on Jesus and his power. Not discuss the archon rulers of darkness, yes they exist,, but one should not dwell on the works of the rulers of darkness.
D"David Ike Still Waiting Actually, I have been awaiting your response to this video since October 1st, 2019
R" Hmm? Show me the link again please, and I will discuss what you ask.
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Post by Dave on Nov 23, 2021 19:25:05 GMT -5
Question - Please explain to me why her testimony is error? In answer to your question Dave In the SDA culture, we are taught to think on Jesus and his power. Not discuss the archon rulers of darkness, yes they exist,, but one should not dwell on the works of the rulers of darkness.7:45 - She says people need to wake up and realize that the only way to push back against the evil is through the power of God. 8:05 – if yo want to clean your house – if you want to get rid of the evil in in life – call on the name of Jesus 8:30-10:15 – exposing demonic symbols in our society 10:30 – we are to stay away from those things - we are to expose them 10:501 – her advice – always take it to the Lord Question - Please explain to me why her testimony is error? Why do you frown upon her testimony – don’t you want to save those that are lost to the world So – your church teaches not to witness to scientist – it is a waste of time And now we see that your church teach not to witness to the lost How is your church doctrine consistent with the call to witness to the whole world? R" Hmm? Show me the link again please, and I will discuss what you ask. ponderingconfusion.proboards.com/thread/529/david-ikeCAESAR'S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus - OFFICIAL VERSION Please comment – there is a lot of truth in this anti-Christian video from the WORLD This video should teach you all about the Roman EditI have a perfect response for Caesar’s Messiah - What's your's?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2021 14:24:12 GMT -5
D"Question - Please explain to me why her testimony is error? Why do you frown upon her testimony – don’t you want to save those that are lost to the world
Nothing wrong with her witness Dave. Some have different gifts, I am not gifted I feel to enter some places to call on the Name of the Lord. Other gifts I have and so support the Lord's Name and His power.
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CAESAR'S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus - OFFICIAL VERSION Please comment – there is a lot of truth in this anti-Christian video from the WORLD
This video should teach you all about the Roman Edit
I have a perfect response for Caesar’s Messiah - What's your's?
R" DO you have a link to this video Dave. I will watch it with passion soon, as I get you video link.
Have a great day, it's raining here, miserable day... have the day off work it seems. Bother. Take care my friend, and stay true to His love and loving.
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Post by Dave on Nov 24, 2021 14:48:46 GMT -5
D"Question - Please explain - Why do you frown upon her testimony Nothing wrong with her witness Dave. When I first told you I supported her and that I have fully introduced / exposed my daughters to her You mocked me and her You ask me to review your suggested videos and I rip into them You pass them off without comment ---------------------
CAESAR'S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus - OFFICIAL VERSION Please comment – there is a lot of truth in this anti-Christian video from the WORLD This video should teach you all about the Roman Edit I have a perfect response for Caesar’s Messiah - What's your's?
R" DO you have a link to this video Dave. I will watch it with passion soon, as I get you video link. Why don’t you try this thread – DUH – and you are serious
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2021 16:15:15 GMT -5
Greetings Dave OK I found you video on this thread and listened to it: I will post my comments as I saw them first " Why are gospels written in Greek, with a Roman bias? R" Actually the gospels were originally written in Hebrew, not Greek. youtu.be/zmEScIUcvz0 CAESAR'S MESSIAH: The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus - OFFICIAL VERSION 2,003,458 views since Sep 15, 2018 Rome talking about the Roman Edit Christianity used as a tool by Government, against us, to speed up the end of days.Second coming of Christ has already occurred. How the gospels were written. An immense paradigm shift.Some say Jesus never really exist. Is Christianity pagan by a different name.No history to Jesus only a literature recording.Reading a number of books. Key int he dead Sea Scrolls.The Falvians invented Christianity, reshaped the Roman empire.R" Where is your proof for this? Daniel prophecies are too precise to be later edited by Flavians Why did the Flavians create religion. Go back to Julio CLuadian era, from republic to an empireJulius, August, Tiberis, Caglistia, ..., Nero.They enjoyed a god like status.Rome allowed any god, but had to worship your current Roman CasesarMore focused on the book, rather than on statues.Messiah to come was a warrior and defeat Roman army. Series of MessiahChrist is term Greek for Messiah. Later term. Rebels Rome in 66AD, nation state in the Roman empire. Rome ruled with iron.Vespasian and Flavians were chosen to destroy the Druids. Nero called on Flavians to destroy Judah.Went in 67,000 troops, Flavians began to attack. Josepus Bar Mathias was captured. Became a turn coat68 AD, desposed Nero, as Flavius became new Caesar.Titus took over Jersaleum. Destroyed by Titus. Carried spoils, took seven branch candlestick back to Rome.(not so though, it was buried)Romans destroyed all copies of the Jews scrolls to silence their Messiah...R" Did Rome destroy God, the author and protector of his writings and his message? NoSo Rome changed the Jewish scrolls. Rabbanic Judaism.Peace loving turn the other cheek, gospel. How does Flavians write prophecies, they use Falvius JosehusJosephus and parallels between the two works.Rome destroyed the writers of the past history, wiped out alternatives, only Josephus writings survived.Vespasian, Titus, Domitian (Flavian dynasty) became figures of Jesus ChristRoman Imperial Cult, promote the idea of Casear as god.Emergence of the Christ cult by the Falvians.Emporer was well established before Falvians idea came along.Provides the structure for the Roman Christian CHurch, became the title of the Pope.32:13 I believe the gospels were written under the influence of the Herods (pincesss Bernice) the Flavians and the Alexanders. gospel "good news of miltary victory" Why woudl Jews write of victories of Rome?render upon casear what is caesar, who benefit from that?Jews thrwat the devine plan. Works trained in Jewish listerature but biased Roman.gospels back dated 40 years before destruction 73 CEPontius Pilate, Falvian technique, into their enemies. prophecies written after 73 CE, Roman progapanda.worship Jesus, worship Falvian in disguise.any evidence of Jesus the historial Jesus.no archological evidence of Jesus eitherR" really?no description of Jesus either in the gospel.Jesus as a human never existed.Literature creation, not a historical creation.pagan mysteries, parallel Jesus storydid Falvians use OT figures as blue print to create new NT oneLittle original about Jesus... OT literature already writtenRoman persecuted Gnostic Christians, but not the turn the other cheek Christians??R" is this your view Dave?Son of Man, talking about a second coming of Jesushas already occurred.Titis Flavious is the SOn of Man, within 40 yrs, Jews refused to accept Titus, so you worship Titus witout knowing it.Christain Flavians, first Roman Catholic saints.Pope Flavius St Clement 1st, a Falvian family as well 53:24Nerus and Achellus,Titus Falvain Clementous, archor, fish, the boat the star. Favius COnstaintine made Rome a state religion.Typology,, hidden codes in the text, Flavians put there.take an old story and retell it in a new form.hebrew typology, divine pattern, we can asscess hidden codeMoses Jesus parallel - matthew take event from OT and place them int he life of Jesus/OT / NT both has Jesus go to EgyptPharoah massacres boys Herod massacres boysAll men are dead that sought your life?From Egypt to IsraelPassing is Red Sea, Jesus baptise pass through waterWilderness for 40 yrs wildnerness for 40 daystempted by breaddo not tempt godwoship only godthese parallels Moses and Jesus are similarfishers of menthe match isn't exact, but similar they say.Jesus deals with devils, Josephus deals with devilsTitus battle at Debaorah, driven by Rome into the sea.Gospel of Barbanus. Jewish rebels are chasen into the sea. Shown as pigsense of humor by RomeDead Sea scrolls not through a Roman filter.text, context and sub-text, in original Greek language, 40 parallels.Titus parallels Jesus, dozens of parallels between them, in the same sequence.The Flavian signature of the gospels.Gnostic do not believe literal dying of Jesus 1:14:39I have a relationship with Jesus. Personal, I don't want to loseallegory - not real...Some Christians developed faith of energy or force within them. Allegory within.What threats humanity is military. Common thread connects all people... All united..underneath...nature worship, humanity looks at for thousands of years, back to those roots. R" so the new world order only promotes natural worship, not about a Father God in heaven?DO you support natural worship idea Dave? Restores balance to the earth and humanity.actual history is complex, voice of high scholars, that today more empowered humanity for tomorrow.Where Christianity came from....invention of Romans, to pacify their subjects.possibility that my findings are correct.use faith to interpret lawtruth shall set you free.Rob comments on the video: I note the video touches at times on the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Gnostics... Does Gnosticism really believe the death of the Jesus is just an allegory, and never really happened? gnosticismexplained.org/jesus-christ-in-gnosticism/The Gnostics didn’t disagree with all of that, but they did disagree with parts of it, and they would have taken issue with its emphases and ultimately found it too superficial to do much good. In their own writings on Christ and his teachings, they countered that Christ had taught that the true God who sent him to earth didn’t create the earth. Creation had instead been the work of a lesser, foolish, and largely evil being. That being, the demiurge, had inadvertently mixed some bits of divinity in with his otherwise absurd creation. God the Father had sent Christ the Son into the world to remedy the catastrophe that creation had caused. The world and its demonic rulers crucified Jesus, but the Son of God came back to life and thereby overcame the world. Christ’s work was carried forward whenever someone achieved gnosis, not whenever someone recited a list of merely verbal beliefs or performed a set of merely physical actions DO you really support these ideas of Gnostic views Dave? I think the video is NOT worth listening to, but I had to, to discuss things with you. First it is assumed GOD did not write this NT literature, that the Flavians did. Do you support this idea? Second it is assumed Jesus never really existed in history Do you support this idea Dave? The SDA view of the Daniel prophecies is the little horn power persecutes the Christians, and this persecution is exactly time dates, orderly with many predictions, does not fit Falvian writing nor Titus. The SDA view speaks of the Roman Catholics taking over the system of Jesus salvation, and inventing human ideas. So this video is way too secular for me, those "high scholars" and "my opinion" the Author speaks of is just that...human ideas. I doubt you understand the Daniel prophecies as the SDA view, so we do not see as the Flavians view. First you need to really clarify what Gnostic views you follow? How about a video showing me your Gnostic views of salvation and about Jesus our Saviour? Shalom
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Post by Dave on Nov 26, 2021 19:13:24 GMT -5
I appreciate that you watched it – All of their evidence depends on the statement – “Because of the ferocity and thoroughness of the Roman Edit – the ONLY FIRST CENTURY LITERATURE THAT SURVIVES = THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS and – the Dead Sea Scrolls were a zealous Jewish faction that were GnosticTHIS IS A LIE – ISN’T ITThe Nag Hammadi – containing the writing of th real agl authors was found 2 year before the Dead Sea ScrollsWhat this video accuracy portrays =1- the absolute extent of the literary control (though police) Rome had of the First Christian Era 2- The very real persecution of the First Christians and their literature 3- Rome was the authority that edited all the writing to settle on the “Official Canon” 4- My opinion – were the Dead Sea Scrolls gnostic – NO THEY ARE JEWISH – but the library contains additional wittings 5- My opinion – are the Nag Hammadi authors gnostic – absolute not – they are Messianic Jews 6- Do you know who Mithras was? - So important to undestanding the earlity church Mithras was born f a virgin - preached at age 12 - had a ministry at age 30 - was nailed to a tree - died and went to heaven - ALL 500 years before Jesus Christ When they say - pagan traditions were adopted into the Roman Catholic Church Unless you understand who Mithras was - you do not understand what they meanCeasar on one side - Mithras on the otherJoseph Flavius on one side - Mithras on the otherOr Jesus on ne side and Mithras on the otherDo I support this video – there is a lot of fact and truth in it I just disagree with their conclusionI have a perfect rebuttal – but do not have the time at the moment – coming soon Why do I offer it – The Omega Deception – that causes many to fall awayIn America - this video is destroying churches Evergreen College offers it a collehe course - for credit The legacy of the Roman Catholic Church – for those who study it = a satanic cult Religion bears as much blame at misinformation as this video Except this video is well documented – and the church says - NOTHING People are too educated to be religious
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Post by Dave on Nov 27, 2021 2:03:50 GMT -5
Do I support the Caesar’s Messiah video – there is a lot of historical fact and truth in itAll of their evidence depends on the statement – “Because of the ferocity and thoroughness of the Roman Edit – the ONLY FIRST CENTURY LITERATURE THAT SURVIVES = THE DEAD SEA SCROLLS and – the Dead Sea Scrolls were a zealous Jewish faction that were GnosticTHIS IS A LIE – ISN’T ITThe Nag Hammadi – containing the writing of the real agl authors was found 2 years before the Dead Sea ScrollsWhat this video accuracy portrays = 1- the absolute extent of the literary control (though police) Rome had of the First Christian Era 2- The very real persecution of the First Christians and their literature 3- Rome was the authority that edited all the writing to settle on the “Official Canon” 4- My opinion – were the Dead Sea Scrolls gnostic – NO THEY ARE JEWISH – but the library contains additional wittings 5- My opinion – are the Nag Hammadi authors gnostic – absolute not – they are Messianic Jews 6- Do you know who Mithras was? Was the agl deliberately written as a conspiracy – NOHowever – the agl was EDITED by Rome to be pro-RomanWHY? – because Rome used the church to control the population YES – Rome did usurp the faith No one believed in Catholic satan until Rome invented him – the their doctrine of evil was used to scare the people into submission of the church What did Rome Edit out – All references to the true identity of the archon What was left out – the reality of the shedim – the Jinn – the ‘other gods’ My rebuttal to Caesar’s Messiahyoutu.be/1QdUhNY6DnYKnowing God - An Extraterrestrial Message - Chuck MisslerJust so you are not confused - I endorse every word he says no archological evidence of Jesus either R" really?Correct – there is zero physical evidence There is zero physical evidence of Abraham as well
This is so curious – this is by design If there was physical evidence – a physical record – there would be physical proof It is by faith – it is by belief – that you are savedR" so the new world order only promotes natural worship, not about a Father God in heaven?Correct – the NWO promotes WORLD - CorrectNOT your god of evilWhere Christianity came from....invention of Romans, to pacify their subjects.Roman Christianity is an invention of Rome – Correct – it is anti-Jewish and anti-Messianic JewishRob comments on the video: I note the video touches at times on the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Gnostics...
Does Gnosticism really believe the death of the Jesus is just an allegory, and never really happened? gnosticismexplained.org/jesus-christ-in-gnosticism/Why do SDA believe that Jehovah was once a man that grew up to be a god Why do the SDA believe that Jesus and Satan are twin brothers Do you really support these ideas of Christianity views Robert? Do you believe all this Christian stuff I have been talking to you for more than 2 years – and still you cannot tell – so seriousEither you have a learning disability - or you are just being an ASS I think the video is NOT worth listening to, but I had to, to discuss things with you.This video is so famous in America – plays on TV a few times a year – is discussed in many churches because someone was forwarding it to church email listHow can you witness the Lord – if you do not understand the argument? Do you choose to be ignorant and unprepared to fight your good fight Most Christians are unprepared for what is coming nextSeveral / many people quote this video as the proof they needed to justify them leaving churchI think the video is NOT worth listening to, but I had to, to discuss things with you. Bury your head in the sand - pretend it doesn't exist - choose ignorance of the WORLD - deny the reality of the archon - call them myth - refuse to acknowledge their work in the worldYou are to love your fellow man - and you see how the archon is decieving your neigbors But you choose not to expose them to your neighbor - deny they exist - mock those attempting to expose them - L.A. Marzulli, David Ike, Rosemary Guiley, King Solomon, the autheor of the agl, and the disciples of Jesus Christ.How can you look at this world and its current events and pretend Allah and the Jinn are nothing to worry about - all those stories of Islam vrs the WEST are just myth - nothing to do with scripture
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Post by Dave on Nov 27, 2021 10:15:08 GMT -5
I think the video is NOT worth listening to, but I had to, to discuss things with you.Question – educator – how can you discuss what you do not know?For example – you say – science supports evolution – those people are not worth your witness Question – educator – how can you discuss what you do not know?Answer – it just make you look uneducated and ill informedMOST SCIENTIST DO NOT SUPPORT EVOLUTION – repeat it as often as you like – but it is a lieREALITY – true science does not support evolution as presentedThere are ZERO geneticist that accept evolution – There are many educated people that recognize the many problems with evolution as presented BUT THE ONLY OTHER OPTION TODAY = CHURCH’s CREATIONISM which is seen as a complete JOKE to those same educated people Today – people are too educated to be religious I think the video is NOT worth listening to, but I had to, to discuss things with you.Here is another short video you have to discuss – also from this same threadToday the educated do not accept evolution as presented – most accept an Intelligent Design Today – people are too educated to be religious – because the church’s version is an obvious JOKE So who can the Intelligence behind the design come from? NOT GOD – but Aliens All the serious empirical evidence points to manipulation from the outside (David Ike, Rosemary Guiley, LA Marzulli + all empirical real science – things we can actually measure) Today – people are too educated to be religious – because the church’s version is an obvious JOKE So who can the Intelligence behind the design come from? The Secret Mathematical Code in our DNA... Are We a Product of Alien Engineering?Your UFO neighbor would most likely agree in this REPLACEMENT THEOLOGYINSIDE people need to know God – yern to know God – understand the Intelligent Designer – everyone is seeking the Intelligent Designer (yester tov – because deep inside – we know) However – at the same time – the “church’ has become a mythological joke to those same seekers The Omega Deception – the REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY – that is more attractive than church religiosity The Omega Deception- - aka the Omega ConspiracyDefinition – once you uncover a conspiracy – you learn it was just part of a larger conspiracy – which is just part of a larger conspiracy - which is just part of a larger conspiracy - What is the Omega Deception – the deception at the end – the replacement – one world religion?FAITH has not been taught as FAITH The Roman Edit replaced FAITH with RELIGION and dependency on the church TODAY – RELIGION as presented is an empty message and fraught with Catholic Mythology TODAY – people are too educated to be RELIGIOUSSo they walk away from the church and faith They throw the baby out with the bath waterIt is correct to escape religious posturing and just believe the evidence How can any intelligent person not realize that Rom 1:19 + Psa 19:2 + Reality + History + unbiased science all point to an Intelligent Design and therefore a DesignerMost Americans – will say they are spiritual but not religious Most Americans – also recognize the error of evolution and embrace an Intelligent Design
BUT – they have had enough religion So without the God of Judeo-Christendom – who could that designer be?youtu.be/Qn0ZRsoLaRk The Secret Mathematical Code in our DNA... Are We a Product of Alien Engineering?The first thing said = man has an instinctive need for ANSWERS about creation and God (yester tov)0:20 – he says faith (belief) can blind you from the truth – Amen!0:25 – he misrepresents creation and creationism – created in an instant 0:30 – YES – fundamentalist – disrespect science and force the people to take sides 0:50 – the SCIENCE of GENETICS – alternatives to evolution views supported by geneticist 1:15 – the complexity of DNA – mandate that a master artisan (demiurge) / designer1:25 – IT CANNOT BE EXPLAINED BY EVOLUTION1:35 – it make more scientific sense if there was an Intelligent Designer2:00 – our DNA has been the exact same since it was created – no evolution2:05 – our DNA code for a “receiver/ antenna” for other worldly intelligence (communion with the HS) or possession3:00 – DNA is from space 3:45 – genetic markers of alien DNA (Gen 6)4:25 – alien DNA = Nobel Prize in Genetics 4:45 – Darwin’s theory has so many holes in it that no serious scientist accepts Darwin today 5:00 – our (Homo sapiens) - lineage of Adam – appeared suddenly – could not have been evolution 5:15 – some momentous event happened in the past that gave man his intellect (Gen 2:7)5:35 – the Big Bang of the brain 6:35 – Rh- blood = proof of alien hybrid DNA7:20 – Rh fetal incompatibility – why would a human attack something that was also human?Evidence that Rh- blood is pure – and Rh+ is alien to us and moms want to reject it Proof of a hybrid line Rh- blood line – pure blood line = only 15% of the world’s population Gen 6:9 These are the genealogies of Noah. Noah was a righteous man. He was blameless among his generation. Noah continually walked with God. Gen 6:11 Now the earth was ruined before God, and the earth was filled with violence. Gen 6:12 God saw the earth, and behold it was ruined because all flesh had corrupted their way upon the earth. Mat 24:37 “For just as the days of Noah were, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 8:50 – Rh- blood types are more prone to spirituality – sensitivity9:15 – Rh+ fetuses have bumps resembling tails – is a lieAll fetuses have bumps resembling tails9:25 – THERE IS NO MISSING LINKFor man or any animal The evolutionary multiple versions of man – is not proof of evolution It is only evidence that man was hybrid in many ways – many forms (Gen 6)10:00 – where are the MISSING LINKS?10:15 – overnight ape turned into man – NO EVOLUTION – suddenly (Homo sapiens) appeared – us – Adam - mankind10:40 – Alien interference with human evolution (Gen 6)10:50 – Alligators – NO EVOLUTION11:00 – are we the result of a more superior intelligence Science admits – NO EVOLUTION Science admits – it must be of Intelligent Design Science admits – it must be of a superior intelligence Science admits – an Intelligent Designer
Who is this Intelligent Designer ? Without the God of church – it must be AliensAnd we come back to Robert's suggested video – The Archon Invasion
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2021 16:39:05 GMT -5
D FAITH has not been taught as FAITHR" correct D The Roman Edit replaced FAITH with RELIGION and dependency on the churchR" correct D TODAY – RELIGION as presented is an empty message and fraught with Catholic MythologyR" correct Does not mean the NT was entirely edited by the Flavians. The Roman church took over the Christian writings by adding pagan ideas to them. Not by inventing the words in Hebrew, and changing them, but by adding traditions to them. D" The Secret Mathematical Code in our DNA... Are We a Product of Alien Engineering?R" OK I will watch your video, soon, not now, have work to do. D"t he complexity of DNA – mandate that a master artisan (demiurge) / designer R" so now you admit another strong authority changed the DNA code? D" And we come back to Robert's suggested video – The Archon InvasionR" Ok I will watch your video, soon Shalom
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Post by Dave on Nov 28, 2021 0:58:20 GMT -5
D FAITH has not been taught as FAITH R" correct D The Roman Edit replaced FAITH with RELIGION and dependency on the church R" correct D TODAY – RELIGION as presented is an empty message and fraught with Catholic Mythology R" correct
Does not mean the NT was entirely edited by the Flavians. Here are the facts – no attitude – no posturing – just the facts#1 Flavian emperors Vespasian Flavian, his son = Titus Flavian #2 Some sources hold that the Flavian family took a very early interest in Christianity. Several of them were said to have converted to the religion, including Vespasian's nephew Titus Flavius Clemens and his wife Flavia Domitilla … Pope Clement I was the son of Titus Flavius Sabinus Were the Flavians heavily involved in the early Roman church- YES#3 Pope Clement I was the son of Titus Flavius Sabinus Pope Clement I, also known as Saint Clement of Rome, is listed by Irenaeus and Tertullian as the fourth bishop of Rome, holding office from 88 AD to his death in 99 AD.] He is considered to be the first Apostolic Father of the Church, one of the three chief ones together with Polycarp and Ignatius of Antioch. Did a Flavian have any influence in the early church - YES#4 Clement's only genuine extant writing is his letter to the church at Corinth (1 Clement) in response to a dispute in which certain presbyters of the Corinthian church had been deposed.[2] He asserted the authority of the presbyters as rulers of the church on the ground that the Apostles had appointed such.[2] His letter, which is one of the oldest extant Christian documents outside the New Testament, was read in church, along with other epistles, some of which later became part of the Christian canon. These works were the first to affirm the apostolic authority of the clergy Was a Flavian involved in the establishment of the Roman authority over the Christian faith - YES#5 During the Jewish Wars, Titus had begun a love affair with Berenice, the sister of Agrippa II.[24] The Herodians had collaborated with the Romans during the rebellion, and Berenice herself had supported Vespasian in his campaign to become emperor.[52] In 75, she returned to Titus and openly lived with him in the palace as his promised wife. Was the family of Herod in bed with the Flavians – YES – literally#6 What is the most quoted non-canon reference to early Christianity = Josephus’ Antiquities of the Jews:Flavius Josephus was a first-century Romano-Jewish historian and military leader, best known for The Jewish War, who was born in Jerusalem—then part of Roman Judea—to a father of priestly descent and a mother who claimed royal ancestry. He initially fought against the Romans during the First Jewish–Roman War as head of Jewish forces in Galilee, until surrendering in 67 CE to Roman forces led by Vespasian after the six-week siege of Jotapata. Josephus claimed the Jewish Messianic prophecies that initiated the First Jewish–Roman War made reference to Vespasian becoming Emperor of Rome. In response, Vespasian decided to keep Josephus as a slave and presumably interpreter. After Vespasian became Emperor in 69 CE, he granted Josephus his freedom, at which time Josephus assumed the emperor's family name of Flavius. Scholarly debate over Josephus’ knowledge of Christianity has centered on two explicit passages in the Antiquities of the Jews #7 What is the original name of the Antiquities of the Jews = Testimonium FlavianumThe Testimonium Flavianum (meaning the testimony of Flavius Josephus) is a passage found in Book 18, Chapter 3, 3 (or see Greek text) of the Antiquities which describes the condemnation and crucifixion of Jesus at the hands of the Roman authorities Were the Flavians heavily involved in the early Roman church- YES Did a Flavian have any influence in the early church – YES Was a Flavian involved in the establishment of the Roman authority over the Christian faith – YES Was the family of Herod in bed with the Flavians – YES – literallyAll of this is 100% historically accurate Does it prove a conspiracy as suggested – NO – but it is all correct informationThe Roman church took over the Christian writings by adding pagan ideas to them. Not by inventing the words in Hebrew, and changing them, but by adding traditions to them.During the time of Jesus there were 4 types of religions in the Roman worldRoman ‘other gods’ – Zeus and family – and Ill add Caesar to this list of false gods – all archon of the 99% Judaism – only available t the Jews and a few select friends Zoroasterism – you have two kings – two gods – one tov and one ra – locked in an Great Controversy Mithrasism – Born of a rock, some say a virgin, - was called the lamb of God – is a sun god – the was nailed to a tree Gee Robert – just which of these pagan ideas don’t sound like Christianity to the ignorantDo you understand sun god worship?ponderingconfusion.com/papers.php?id=sungodFrom the perspective of the Northern hemisphere, every year the cycle of the sun is observed raising in the sky from the horizon, as the days grow progressively longer until the summer solstice. The sun then wanes from its position overhead, traveling closer and closer toward the horizon until December 22nd. For 3 days it remains in the same position on the horizon. Then, on December 25th and the Winter Solstice, the sun again begins it upward climb from the horizon. During this period, December 22nd through December 25th, the sun is in exact alignment with the constellation ‘Crux’ otherwise known as the Southern Cross.4
So, the sun dies upon the cross for 3 days and is then resurrected.
Additionally, the 3 stars that form the belt in the constellation of Orin, known throughout the ancient world as the 3 Kings, align perfectly with the star Sirius to point to the exact location on the horizon the sun will raise on December 25th.
Therefore, the birth is announced by a star and visited by 3 Kings.
The 12 deciples simply become the 12 signs of the zodiac, with which the sun travels trough the heaven. Oh yes, let us not forget the 12 Tribes of Israel, 12 Judges of Israel, 12 Great Patriarchs, 12 Old Testament Prophets, and the 12 Princes of Israel.
Supporters of this version of reality even use Christian scripture to support their claims. John 9:5 the sun is – the Light of the World Matt 28:6 the sun is – risen from the dead (each morning) John 14:33 the sun says – I will come again (each morning) 2 Cor 4:6 the sun is – the Light of knowledge of the glory of God Rm 12:12 the sun is – coming in the clouds John 3:3 the sun is – Born again (each morning) John 19:5 and the sun - is crowned in thorns (seen as sunrays)The Roman church took over the Christian writings by adding pagan ideas to them.Gee Robert – just which of these pagan ideas don’t sound like Christianity to the ignorantMithraic initiates were required to swear an oath of secrecy and dedication, and some grade rituals involved the recital of a catechism, wherein the initiate was asked a series of questions pertaining to the initiation symbolism and had to reply with specific answers Q and A – a Catholic Mass - the priest says his part – then the congregation answers – A men Gee Robert – just which of these pagan ideas don’t sound like Christianity to the ignorantD"The Secret Mathematical Code in our DNA... Are We a Product of Alien Engineering? D"the complexity of DNA – mandate that a master artisan (demiurge) / designer R" so now you admit another strong authority changed the DNA code?1- you are bold enough to make a negative comment before you watch – how honest2- please quote me – your twisting is a LIE – Mr Christian – why do you need to lie to make a point?I have always said the complexity of DNA – mandate that a master artisan (demiurge) / designer that created You claim - another strong authority (named satan) changed the DNA code? – it is the entire bases of your fallen world
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