Post by Dave on Aug 12, 2021 18:23:03 GMT -5
Q4: Discuss "sin" not onto death (KJV).
1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is "sin-offering":
and there is a "sin-offering" not unto death.
What is sin offering – scripture please
You are offering unrightenous as a sacrifical offering to the Lord for atonemenmt for sin
Unrightenouss atones for sin
Are you sure about this?
If you doubt this understanding...
See detailed studies of 'sin'
See detailed studies of the 'sin-offering'.
Also see a basic understanding of sin.
See how sins make shadows
See a simple practical demonstration on the 'sin not unto death', the saved cigarette smoker.
This statement of John is made in his letter while speaking about GOD as a simile of light. John also is instructed to write about darkness, sinning and the sin-offering .
For a guy that only speaks of faith you sure are consumed with sin
Why do I have to go to so many other links by you to understand what you mean
Don’t you use and sin as any other Christian – NO
Fellowship is a relationship with another being of power. Notice Jesus had fellowship with His Father.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments "entole", ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments "entole", and abide in his love.
Jesus guarded His Father�s commandments and His love. As disciples we are to guard Jesus commandments and His love. Notice there are two sources of love that compliment each other.
Where? His love + His love = His love
The question we must ask here is what commandments belong to the Father and which belong to Jesus
You teach that Christ is not God – Christ is a different person – a separate and different God
Who is the ahl creator – God
Who is the agl creator – Christ – who is the word – who is with God – and who is God
You teach more than one god – this is such an issue
The Greek word commandments "entole" is the same as the Hebrew word "mitsvah" from which the NT translation came from.
Thus we have the Father�s commandments functioning like the lamp, and Jesus teachings as in the torah functioning like the light. This makes Jesus a witness or carrier of the Father's love from Him to us.
OK
1Jo 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, w e lie, and do not the truth:
Now the story shifts from Jesus who walked in fellowship to His Father, to us who must walk in fellowship to Jesus�. light and objects (us) form relationships....
You have more than one God - it speaks loud over every sentence
Scripture speaks of the shadow of death (Job3:5) in which there is darkness, and there is the concept of protection under the shadow of the Shadday is a parallel to being in the secret place of the Father (Ps91:1).
Shadow of death = life as a mortal
Psa 23:1 A psalm of David. Adonai is my shepherd, I shall not want.
Psa 23:2 He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters.
Psa 23:3 He restores my soul. He guides me in paths of righteousness for His Name’s sake.
Psa 23:4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for You are with me: Your rod and Your staff comfort me.
Psa 23:5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You have anointed my head with oil, my cup overflows.
Psa 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the House of Adonai forever.
(4) two types of shadows..
Scripture speaks of two shadows of darkness, just as science also speaks of two types of shadows, the pre-umbra and the umbra.First have a look at Scripture verses on this theme:-
NO Robert – your example of this physical world does not define the heaven for me
Why can�t the light directly penetrate the blackest darkness is because the object sinner is blocking the process directly by being too far from the light source.
You teach there are places your god of tov cannot go – off limits to him
Every Other theologian teaches God is omnipresent – there is nowhere that you can hide from God
Just to clarify the Scripture analogy on this ,
Why can’t scripture just speak for itself – why do you have to change it into something else to support your argument – have respect for the word
John goes on to describe those with obedience in Jesus, do not sin.
WOW – the Apostille Paul was a faker – take chapter 7 out of Romans right now – or tear out the whole book according to you
You teach doubt
Should we continue sinning, even wilful sinning, the relationship changes until the outer darkness returns in our lives, and our sinning is now onto eternal death !
OH NO – Robert makes me frustrated – I must not be a believer according to Robert
Robert is afraid of vaccines – but He promises his god he will fear no evil – is Robert a believer
So much doubt you preach
In summary, there are many ways to describe the sin-offering not unto death. This is one of them in this study
I still do not know what a sin offering is – according to you - or why it is different than sin
How can unrightenous be a sin offering - only onto satan - you have the wrong god
All I heard from this = - If I ever act like the animal I am – I must doubt my salvation
This is not a Christian message
It is a confusing message of doubt written in religious talk so no one but you knows what you mean
1Jo 5:17 All unrighteousness is "sin-offering":
and there is a "sin-offering" not unto death.
What is sin offering – scripture please
You are offering unrightenous as a sacrifical offering to the Lord for atonemenmt for sin
Unrightenouss atones for sin
Are you sure about this?
If you doubt this understanding...
See detailed studies of 'sin'
See detailed studies of the 'sin-offering'.
Also see a basic understanding of sin.
See how sins make shadows
See a simple practical demonstration on the 'sin not unto death', the saved cigarette smoker.
This statement of John is made in his letter while speaking about GOD as a simile of light. John also is instructed to write about darkness, sinning and the sin-offering .
For a guy that only speaks of faith you sure are consumed with sin
Why do I have to go to so many other links by you to understand what you mean
Don’t you use and sin as any other Christian – NO
Fellowship is a relationship with another being of power. Notice Jesus had fellowship with His Father.
Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments "entole", ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments "entole", and abide in his love.
Jesus guarded His Father�s commandments and His love. As disciples we are to guard Jesus commandments and His love. Notice there are two sources of love that compliment each other.
Where? His love + His love = His love
The question we must ask here is what commandments belong to the Father and which belong to Jesus
You teach that Christ is not God – Christ is a different person – a separate and different God
Who is the ahl creator – God
Who is the agl creator – Christ – who is the word – who is with God – and who is God
You teach more than one god – this is such an issue
The Greek word commandments "entole" is the same as the Hebrew word "mitsvah" from which the NT translation came from.
Thus we have the Father�s commandments functioning like the lamp, and Jesus teachings as in the torah functioning like the light. This makes Jesus a witness or carrier of the Father's love from Him to us.
OK
1Jo 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, w e lie, and do not the truth:
Now the story shifts from Jesus who walked in fellowship to His Father, to us who must walk in fellowship to Jesus�. light and objects (us) form relationships....
You have more than one God - it speaks loud over every sentence
Scripture speaks of the shadow of death (Job3:5) in which there is darkness, and there is the concept of protection under the shadow of the Shadday is a parallel to being in the secret place of the Father (Ps91:1).
Shadow of death = life as a mortal
Psa 23:1 A psalm of David. Adonai is my shepherd, I shall not want.
Psa 23:2 He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters.
Psa 23:3 He restores my soul. He guides me in paths of righteousness for His Name’s sake.
Psa 23:4 Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for You are with me: Your rod and Your staff comfort me.
Psa 23:5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. You have anointed my head with oil, my cup overflows.
Psa 23:6 Surely goodness and mercy will follow me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in the House of Adonai forever.
(4) two types of shadows..
Scripture speaks of two shadows of darkness, just as science also speaks of two types of shadows, the pre-umbra and the umbra.First have a look at Scripture verses on this theme:-
NO Robert – your example of this physical world does not define the heaven for me
Why can�t the light directly penetrate the blackest darkness is because the object sinner is blocking the process directly by being too far from the light source.
You teach there are places your god of tov cannot go – off limits to him
Every Other theologian teaches God is omnipresent – there is nowhere that you can hide from God
Just to clarify the Scripture analogy on this ,
Why can’t scripture just speak for itself – why do you have to change it into something else to support your argument – have respect for the word
John goes on to describe those with obedience in Jesus, do not sin.
WOW – the Apostille Paul was a faker – take chapter 7 out of Romans right now – or tear out the whole book according to you
You teach doubt
Should we continue sinning, even wilful sinning, the relationship changes until the outer darkness returns in our lives, and our sinning is now onto eternal death !
OH NO – Robert makes me frustrated – I must not be a believer according to Robert
Robert is afraid of vaccines – but He promises his god he will fear no evil – is Robert a believer
So much doubt you preach
In summary, there are many ways to describe the sin-offering not unto death. This is one of them in this study
I still do not know what a sin offering is – according to you - or why it is different than sin
How can unrightenous be a sin offering - only onto satan - you have the wrong god
All I heard from this = - If I ever act like the animal I am – I must doubt my salvation
This is not a Christian message
It is a confusing message of doubt written in religious talk so no one but you knows what you mean