Experimental COVID-19 Vaccines

[Dave]

Robert – you have no idea of what you speak!
R" First Dave, the assujmptions when using the Standard Deviation test.
I used to have a calculator for doing such sums, SD = Sum (x2 - mean)/number of trials


So what can we determine from this? The smaller the standard deviation, the less risky an investment will be, dollar-for-dollar. On the other hand, the larger the variance and standard deviation, the more volatile a security.

SD – is an indicator od precision and systemic error (things I can control)
CV – is a measure of random error (things I cannot control)

D"What about 3,3,3,3,3, my mean = 3 my SD = 0
R" If there is no variance, the SD does not measure anything.
SD is an indicator precision – on the rifle range 3,3,3,3,3 is a perfectly tight group – just not accurate

Before I shoot in a contest – or measure a patient – I run QC
I hang a target – I sample a KNOWN (a known measured value – a standard)
A perfect score on 5 shoots = 50 – my test sample measures 15 (3,3,3,3,3)

Calibration – is required – the shooter will adjust his sights – a lab guy plays maintaining or math games with his instrument to bring that precision accurately to the bulls eye

SD – is an indicator of precision and systemic error (things I can control)
Shooting – my gun – my sights – the calibration of my sights – my breathing
Medicine – my instrument – calibration – the way I Handel samples

CV – is a measure of random error (things I cannot control)
Shooting – the manufacture of the ammo – the wind – the humidity – atm pressure
Medicine – (pre-analytical error – quality of sample) – the electric grid that day – the temp – the altitude

Question: Should you get variance from a PCR test, if the primer is targeting specified RNA information?
I get what you are saying, the test process has flaws and so makes variance during the testing process.
Is this a valid testing process than? To say a person is 95% confident that they are negative or positive for COV19?
1- the goal is 2SD – the goal is 98% - 95% is just realistic
2- value – better than reading tea leaves or chicken entrails – or guessing

This requires the test is repeated say 10 times for each swab that is collected? DO they do this testing?
Or is the testing done only once per swab?
Rapid test is a one shot deal – it destroys the swab
How do you calibrate a PCR test - 98% of positive testing swabs must also grow the viron in a growth medium


D"Where are the human rights in a war between men?
R" I thought the world have rules for things used in war? So all bets are off are they?
So it's OK to torture a USA prisoner of war, like that Australian a few years back?
Just jump to extremes – it is what you do to prove you are serious
Beat your wife until she loves you more as well

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Nice presentation Dave, and what is CV, excuse my rusty ignorance?

D"Just jump to extremes

R" I thought under the Geneva convention countries agreed not to torture their prisoners?

This is no extreme. Obviously countries do not follow their own laws.

Just as Australian gov is getting business to violate privacy act, and force jabs on citizens also violating the Bio-Security Act 2015.

Shalom

[Dave]

what is CV, excuse my rusty ignorance?

SD – is an indicator of precision and systemic error (things I can control)
Shooting – my gun – my sights – the calibration of my sights – my breathing
Medicine – my instrument – calibration – the way I Handel samples

CV – is a measure of random error (things I cannot control)
Shooting – the manufacture of the ammo – the wind – the humidity – atm pressure
Medicine – (pre-analytical error – quality of sample) – the electric grid that day – the temp – the altitude

Ammo – each and every round does not fly the same – smaller bang = low / bigger bang might be high
How does humidity and air pressure effect the flight of that bullet
Wind - not constant – gust – change directions
even tempretaure

All of these factors affect the flight of the bullet – and there is nothing you can do about it

Medicine – a 250K instrument designed to measure in the microliters and to 4 decimal places – is effected by the electrical grid – says 110v on the out let but in summer when the while community is running their air conditioners – it drops to almost 90v sometimes – and it fluctuates and the electric company attempt to match demand with output

Some labs are climate controlled – and I have worked in labs where the door was propped open to cool the room

This is why 75% of the seniour staff is buisy with QC - every instrument - once a day - bigger labs once a shift - bigger labs every 100 sample
Dose QC work all the time for everybody - No way!
repeat - investigate - validate - calibrate - instrument mantancenece

Lab joke - the high range for many people INR - 2.5
a new Dr will adjust their meds in the winter because they are running low
Then comes summer they have to adjust the meds again
Perpetual office visits
A seniour Dr looks for the everage - calls it good enough

AND I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH (pre-analytical error)

Here is a real life example – I worked alone nights and weekend for years
Er orders a CBC + some chemistries + a serology
I come back to the lab and put everything in motion – the first answer is always the CBC
If I report a left shift in Complete Blood Count – and the nurse tells the Dr the patient has a fever and a thread pulse – BANG – an order for BLOOD CULTURES comes in STAT and the Dr tells the nurse to hang an IV with anti-biotic STAT – now it is a race – the Dr and nurse doesn’t want to wait and if I leave for 15 minutes – all my timers will go off and the labs repeated.

Solution – Don’t wait for Dave - let the nurse draw the BLOOD CULTURE
However – over the next 90 days – every other BLOOD CULTURE grew staph epi from the skin
A complete waste of time and test – skin flora = bad technic – not steril
Dave – 1 contaminated BLOOD CULTURE in 5 years (hard to be perfect)

The nurse / the fireman / the policeman / the Walmart employee swabs your throat - packages it – stores it – ships it – then the lab gets it – finally I get it – I can only test what I am given

I have measured the glucose on diabetic patiens with canday bar wrappers in their pocket
I have measure someone's cholesterol just after they came from breakfast

R" I thought under the Geneva convention countries agreed not to torture their prisoners?
Name me one country or people that ever kept a treaty or a promise
If some guy took my daughter – I might violate some rules to get her back
It is called human nature – listening to (yester ra) fueld by the archon

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D"I have measured the glucose on diabetic patiens with canday bar wrappers in their pocket
I have measure someone's cholesterol just after they came from breakfast

R" I see. Practical hassles of doing a good job.

D"If some guy took my daughter – I might violate some rules to get her back
R" I see. Rules are meant to be broken.

Enjoy your day Dave. Let's hope my job continues and the QLD state does not go into lock down, and testing, otherwise I am out of a job, and we live without shop-food and only the means on our land.

Gov too do not follow their own rules.... make humans do things against the ACT Bills gov passed.... what do we do if there are no laws Gov follow?

Tyranny is a system of no laws....all bets are off, as Qld premier said.

In other words she said, we don't follow rules, we just do what we are told to do...

Try following a law in the Council and see how you go, like I did once on copyright issue of using kids photos on a school based website... months later and emails later, I gave up, no authority could help me.

There is no authority in Gov you can speak to over any law or rule. Always a circle of nobody is responsible.

Unlike GOD, he follows His laws implicitly.

Shalom

[Dave]

D"If some guy took my daughter – I might violate some rules to get her back
R" I see. Rules are meant to be broken.
It’s called (yester ra) – human nature – self-preservation

Gov too do not follow their own rules....
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few

Vote – protest – march – scream and shout – just don’t let it distract you from your commission
Or the archon just win – have you trapped in the Contest
Live in Praise – walk in the spirit – or be all consumed with worry about this world

You can choose to be Elisha servant – just believe – worry and doubt
Or you can choose to trust as Elisha because you are able to spiritually discern
Your choice

You can choose to enter that 7th Day of rest with the Lord
Or you can preach that opportunity has past and is no longer open to Christians
Your choice

You can believe in One True Creator
Or you can believe in a pantheon of multiple gods
Your choice

You can choose to be a Spiritual Christian as Jesus called us to be
Or you can choose to deny the spirit
Your choice

You can allow God to use you as First Fruits and join God NOW – today (Rev 20:4) – those who served the Lord
Or you can believe that the grave and the first resurrection is your only hope
Your choice

You can believe that Jesus Christ was God incarnate – gave his mortal body on the cross and continued to preach to those that were lost before the Flood
Or – you can believe that Jesus was not divine and your satan kill his body and soul upon the cross
Your choice

That is why you have free will – your choice

We have all left the father and enter the world of sin
We can choose to return to the Father as the Prodigal Son
Your choice and only your choice

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Nice summary of your view Dave.

I will keep you posted if and when further COV19 restrictions happen to us in Australia

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A question for you from Messanic Jews:

This model is facing the wrong direction?



See red arrows? Any comments, why the model is positioned wrong?
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Gentiles come into the Jewish nation, who are not a nation.

Moses' song foresees that the people of Israel will make God jealous with their worship of false gods and idols and that God in turn will provoke His people to jealousy with those who are called “not a nation.”

“They have provoked Me to jealousy by what is not God; they have moved Me to anger by their foolish idols. But I will provoke them to jealousy by those who are not a nation; I will move them to anger by a foolish nation.” (Deuteronomy 32:21; see also Romans 11:13–15)

This reference to not a nation is in Hebrew loh ami. It is found again in the Book of Hosea:

“I will plant her for myself in the land; I will show My love to the one I called 'Not My loved one.' I will say to those called 'Not My nation,' (loh ami) 'You are My nation'; and they will say, 'You are My God.'" (Hosea 2:23; see also Romans 9:25)

Who are these people who were once “not a nation” and are now God’s people?

These are the Gentiles who have come to join themselves with the commonwealth of Israel through the Jewish Messiah: “Once you were not a nation, but now you are the nation of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.” (1 Peter 2:10)

These are the very people who God has called to salvation to provoke Israel to jealousy.

“So, I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous.” (Romans 11:11)
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Music has been called the universal language of the heart and, therefore, Moses uses the song of Ha’Azinu to complete his life’s mission with a stirring challenge to the people of Israel.

What is Moses’ message? It is that our actions have consequences — for good or for evil — and that our very survival depends upon our faithfulness to God our Rock.

Music and song have always been an integral part of the Jewish People.

England’s former Chief Rabbi Jonathan Sacks wrote, “Jewish life is a symphony whose score is the Torah, whose composer is God, whose orchestra is the Jewish people, and whose most moving performance is on Simchat Torah [Joy of the Torah].” (Torah with a Twist of Humor, Joe Bobker, p. 409)

A particular kind of Jewish music originating from Eastern Europe called Klezmer comes from the modern Hebrew words klei (vessel or instrument) and zemer (song).
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Why is singing such a spiritual, sacred act of worship? Nineteenth century Rabbi Nachman of Bratslav wrote, “If two people talk at the same time, neither hears or understands the other; whereas if two people sing at the same time, they give each other harmony.” (Bobker, p. 410)


Music is always nice as a witness.

SHalom

[Dave]

A question for you from Messanic Jews:
This model is facing the wrong direction?


Is this a model of the Temple Mount? – Then it is a fabricated image

(wiki) The model, measuring 2,000 square metres (22,000 sq ft), was commissioned in 1966 by the banker Hans Kroch, the owner of the Holyland Hotel, in memory of his son, Yaakov, an IDF soldier who was killed in the 1947–1949 Palestine war. The model was designed by Israeli historian and geographer Michael Avi-Yonah based on the writings of Flavius Josephus and other historical sources. The model includes a replica of the Herodian Temple.

Hardly any accepts this anymore – the temple was in the City of David and the Roman Garrison looked down upon the Temple. The Mount might be the location of Abraham’s sacrifice – it also might be the site of Allah’s ascension (cannot say it didn’t happen – ‘other gods’ performed tricks – evil spirits appear and disappear)

But it is not the site of the 2nd Jewish temple


Please defend Don Patton some more

Quote the souce of your copy and paste - or I won't respond

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I found this link on the subject

www.bible.ca/archeology/bible-archeology-jerusalem-temple-mount.htm

What do you think?

SHalom

[Dave]

C. Christians are the temple today, not some stone building!
Absolutely Agree – and Disagree

What is the function of being God’s Chosen People – the Jews
Witness to all the nations of the world – it is a GLOBAL WITNESS

Never was salvation an exclusive club in the ahl - Rahab was neither Jewish or sinless
The Jews moved – ‘and took the other that were with them ‘along (convert?)
The ahl – happened on the ground for all to see
The agl – happened on the ground for all to see
The end-of-days – must unfold on the ground as written – just so one Buddhist in Upper Mongolia Must Paus and say – WOW – the God of the Jews is the One True God

Dose Temple III have to look like Solomon’s or Herod’s – maybe it looks like the US Embassy moving to Jerusalem (Marriage of Western Christianity and Judaism ) – Abomination Desolation
The return of Tammuz to Jerusalem – Wait for it – there is a Christmas Special coming to a TV station near you soon –

1948 – the Jews could not be more Jewish – more orthodox
2021 – Christian missionaries dominate the cities (Michael Rood – live from Jersulam)

[Dave]

Gentiles come into the Jewish nation, who are not a nation.
Quote your sources – as a student should – or I will stop commenting

Moses' song foresees that the people of Israel will make God jealous with their worship of false gods and idols and that God in turn will provoke His people to jealousy with those who are called “not a nation.”
You must disagree with this – Feel Good God is not allowed to be righteous
God of love only that never cause harm on earth is ERROR
God is love - agree - rewarding love and tough love
God is love - and He is both fair and righteous

“They have provoked Me to jealousy by what is not God; they have moved Me to anger by their foolish idols. But I will provoke them to jealousy by those who are not a nation; I will move them to anger by a foolish nation.” (Deuteronomy 32:21; see also Romans 11:13–15)
You must disagree with this - How can Feel Good God be angry? Or mad?
God of love only that never cause harm on earth is ERROR
God is love - agree - rewarding love and tough love
God is love - and He is both fair and righteous

Correct – I will move them - this is God’s Plan – you admit it
How can this happen if there were no longer any Jews?

Rom 11:25 For I do not want you, brothers and sisters, to be ignorant of this mystery—lest you be wise in your own eyes—that a partial hardening has come upon Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in;

Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

This reference to not a nation is in Hebrew loh ami. It is found again in the Book of Hosea:

“I will plant her for myself in the land; I will show My love to the one I called 'Not My loved one.' I will say to those called 'Not My nation,' (loh ami) 'You are My nation'; and they will say, 'You are My God.'" (Hosea 2:23; see also Romans 9:25)

Who are these people who were once “not a nation” and are now God’s people?
These are the Gentiles
These are the very people who God has called to salvation to provoke Israel to jealousy.

“So, I ask, did they stumble in order that they might fall? By no means! Rather through their trespass salvation has come to the Gentiles, so as to make Israel jealous.” (Romans 11:11)

1- OH WHAT A GOOD POINT
If the Jews had not rejected Jesus – scripture would be over – no age of the Gentile
2- Rom 11:25 … until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
3- Gen 50:20 But as for you, ye thought evil against me; but God meant it unto good, to bring to pass, as it is this day, to save much people alive.
4- 2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Who are these people who were once “not a nation” and are now God’s people?
These are the Gentiles
These are the very people who God has called to salvation to provoke Israel to jealousy.

Who have the Gentiles proven to be – Chinese? – Arabs?
No the Gentiles have proven to be White (Caucasian) Western Christendom
The Gentiles are the LOST 10 TRIBES OF ISRAEL

Who was the Samarian woman at the well with Jesus?
Samarian = Northern Kingdom of Israel

The Northern 10 Tribes were lost in two major waves
The first wave is when the Phoenicians sailed the Mediterranean
The second wave is when Cyrus let the people go – many went North (Ezra 1:1-11)

bible.org/seriespage/21-great-divorce-kingdom-divided-1-kings-12-2-chronicles-10
The Great Divorce: The Kingdom Divided (1 Kings 12; 2 Chronicles 10)

www.colindsmith.com/blog/2019/06/30/did-god-divorce-israel-but-not-judah/
“What should we make of the argument that God has divorced Israel but not Judah (e.g., Hosea 1:6; 2:2; Jer 3:1, 8)? Is this true or false? Or should we view God’s ‘divorce’ of Israel (e.g., Jer 3:8) as an analogy of God’s separation with Israel (as evidenced in the judgment of exile, which, in itself, is the outworking of the covenant curse) rather than that of a full-fledged divorce / annulment of the covenant (e.g., Jer 3:14; cf. Deut 24:1-4)?

israelmyglory.org/article/the-exiles-return/
Scripture states that 42,360 people returned to Judah, accompanied by 7,337 slaves and two hundred singers (Ezra 2:64–65), including members of the ten northern tribes taken into captivity by Assyria in 722 B.C. (Ezra 2:70). Still, they were only a small remnant.

Why wouldn’t the opportunity to return to the Promised Land cause a massive exodus from Babylon? Because the Jewish people were not slaves in Babylon but were full and active members of Babylonian society. Many prospered. It is easy to imagine that many second and third generation Jewish Babylonians had no interest in leaving.

With the exception of the few, most of the Israelites born in captivity probably had lost the love for the homeland. Perhaps their desire to fit in caused many to discard God’s Word.

One son stayed home – the other went off into the world if paganism and sin
SOUND FAMILURE

Remarriage of Isreal Judah + Gentiles (the lost 10 Tribes)

Jer 3:1  “If a man divorces his wife and she leaves him to be with another man, will he return to her again? Would not such a land be totally polluted? You are a prostitute with many lovers. Now are you returning to Me?” It is a declaration of Adonai. 

Jer 31:31  “Behold, days are coming”—it is a declaration of Adonai—“when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah— 
Jer 31:32  not like the covenant I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they broke My covenant, though I was a husband to them.” it is a declaration of Adonai. 
Jer 31:33  “But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days”—it is a declaration of Adonai—“I will put My Torah within them. Yes, I will write it on their heart. I will be their God and they will be My people. 

Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the Good News, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who trusts—to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

Rom 2:10 But there will be glory, honor, and shalom to everyone who does good—to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

G1672 - Ἕλλην - Hellēn - From G1671; a Hellen (Grecian) or inhabitant of Hellas; by extension a Greek speaking person, especially a non-Jew: - Gentile, Greek. (DO YOU SEE ANY MENTION OF ANY ASAIN HERE - or HINDU?)

Who have the Gentiles proven to be – Chinese? – Arabs?
The Gentiles have proven to be White (Caucasian) Western Christendom
The Gentiles are the LOST 10 TRIBES OF ISRAEL

Why are the Greeks (the people of the Mediterranean) – Gentiles?
Answer – The First Wave of exodus from Norther Israel

Why is the rest of White (Caucasian) Western Christendom – Gentiles?
Answer – the Second Wave of exodus from Northern Israel
Up and over the CAUCUS MOUNTAINS

Leaving their names on all the passes
Then spreading Indo-European culture throughout – WHITE Scandinavia, WHITE Russia, WHITE Europe, and WHITE British Isls

Who then evangelize – what we know of as WHITE (CAUSAIN) WESTERN CHRISTENDOM

Is Demographic Winter real – and is there a population collapse coming within the next 20 years
YES – for the WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISENDOM

Today = who is Israel’s great ally? - WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISENDOM

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Why is singing such a spiritual, sacred act of worship? Nineteenth century Rabbi Nachman of Bratslav wrote, “If two people talk at the same time, neither hears or understands the other; whereas if two people sing at the same time, they give each other harmony.” (Bobker, p. 410)

I Like it!
Mat 18:19 Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father in heaven.
Mat 18:20 For where two or three are gathered together in My name, there I am in their midst.”

Most people let the animal talk and talk and never hear a thing
By singing – you are allowing you soul/spirit to praise

Dan Black – our good friend – was a Cantor
Jenney Weaver –Kim Clement – St Francis – me in the shower

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D"Is Demographic Winter real – and is there a population collapse coming within the next 20 years
YES – for the WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISTENDOM

Today = who is Israel’s great ally? - WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISTENDOM

This is an interesting read, what is this about Dave?

Are you suggesting as the COV19 reduces the world population, that many WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISTENDOM will become united under Israel for God?

Why does Israel need a Temple III, when there was all along a temple in heaven, Jesus as a human/god "Son of GOD/Son of MAN", is doing the functions of priest and high priest for every human who wants such services on earth?

Shalom

[Dave]

Please reread – I added to that post things to clarify my point

Are you suggesting as the COV19 reduces the world population, that many WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISTENDOM will become united under Israel for God?

No I am saying
1- WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISTENDOM – are the lost 10 tibes
Look at Israel today – predominately CAUCASIAN – EUOREAN CAUCASIAN

2- WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISTENDOM – is in for a demographic winter – fact – cannot stop it

3- COV19 reduces the world population
There are 94 scriptures about - Last Days Pestilence
Scripture come alive – is what I am saying

4- WHITE (CAUCASIAN) WESTERN CHRISTENDOM will become united under Israel for God?
Abrahamic Accords – already done
And Rabbi Singer preaches that America just might be a King of Tyre – the best friend who is not there when you need him most

Why does Israel need a Temple III, when there was all along a temple in heaven, Jesus as a human/god "Son of GOD/Son of MAN", is doing the functions of priest and high priest for every human who wants such services on earth?

1 The nation Israel would be born in one day (Isaiah 66:8).
2 Returning Jews would come from the north, south, east, and west (Isaiah 43:5-6; Jeremiah 31:7-10).
3 All surrounding nations would be united against Israel (Psalm 83:4-8; Zechariah 12:2).
4 The nation of Israel, which had been divided into two kingdoms since the time of Solomon (950B.C.) Israel in the north and Judah in the south would be one united nation in the last days (Ezekiel 37:15-22). And so it is, Israel is one nation.
5 Rebuilt temple in Israel anticipated (Daniel 9:27; 12:11; Mark 13:14; 2 Thessalonians 2:4; Revelation 11:1-2).
6 The temple sacrifices would be reinstituted in Israel in the last days (Daniel 9:27; 12:11).
7 Though Israel would be the focus of many fulfilled prophecies, most Jews would remain blind to the fact that Jesus is their Messiah until the very end (Luke 19:41-42; Luke 13:34-35; Romans 11:25-26)

God's Plan - not a religeous mystery - just scripture made alive and reals right before the WORLD's eyes - recognise what is in your sight

Zec 8:23 Thus says Adonai-Tzva’ot, “In those days it will come to pass that ten men from every language of the nations will grasp the corner of the garment of a Jew saying, ‘Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.’”

So even the most remote Eskimo or Mongolian or Australian or American
Will know (gnosis) just who is the One True God

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Greetings Dave

Nice reply, like the post on the rebuilding of Temple III

So is it a good idea, fair even, that the world population is reduced because of COV19 vaccines?

My Mum has been exposed to a person testing positive, and so they are testing her at age 81. She has sadly had both jabs, so according to them she is safe from COV19 anyway?

The manufacturers are supposed to give us the ingredients into the vaccines by now? What are they?
Is graphene oxide one of those? used as an adjuvant?

An autopsy done illegally in Singapore on a person died of COV19 revealed the inside riddled with blood clotting, on arms, all over body inside.

NSW and VIC still on lock down and various controls. QLD is much more free, but maybe we will get out turn, or maybe the Gov spare us because we make money for them? a mining town?

Funny how you can visit a grand final footy match , 80,000 people not social distance, not wearing masks, and yet walking to venue site they have to wear masks ans socially distance. The virus must know the difference? After all it's supposed to be highly viralent.

SHalom

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www.drrobertyoung.com/post/transmission-electron-microscopy-reveals-graphene-oxide-in-cov-19-vaccines

Have a look at this research by Dr Robert Young, and tell me what you think?

Nanobots developed from graphene oxide

Picture of graphene oxide razor blade structure, in the COV19 vaccine.

Confirmed from Spanish researchers, that after removing the mRNA agents, excluding the water, that 99% of the rest of the agents in the vaccine is graphene oxide. 

Shalom