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Post by Dave on Aug 16, 2021 10:09:11 GMT -5
R" Yes sorry for sounding negative....people have mocked me for years, called me names, said I was unsocial and awkward...hard not to be negative...
Your Christian witness must be so effective – didn’t you tell me that your own children do not believe?
Funny – To commune with the Lord one on one – what could be negative? Why doesn’t your Christianity teach the JOY of knowing the Lord and relish the fact that the Lord know me personally – that the Creator of the Universe put up with mortal life and death, just so I could know him as I know you = AMAZING GRACE makes me happy, why not you?
1Th 5:16 Rejoice always, 1Th 5:17 pray constantly, 1Th 5:18 in everything give thanks; for this is God’s will for you in Messiah Yeshua. 1Th 5:19 Do not quench the Spirit,
Rom 5:1 Therefore, having been made righteous by trusting, we have shalom with God through our Lord Yeshua the Messiah. Rom 5:2 Through Him we also have gained access by faith into this grace in which we stand and boast in the hope of God’s glory. Rom 5:3 And not only that, but we also boast in suffering—knowing that suffering produces perseverance; Rom 5:4 and perseverance, character; and character, hope. Rom 5:5 And hope does not disappoint, because God’s love has been poured into our hearts through the Ruach ha-Kodesh who was given to us.
Why is your self-worth dependent upon other men? Who cares what they think they think – I only care what God thinks of me
But for the supporter of Jesus, we seek to develop wisdom :-
Pr 9:8 Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: ....people have mocked me for years, called me names, said I was unsocial and awkward...hard not to be negative...
Ec 7:5 It is better to hear the rebuke of the wise, than for a man to hear the song of fools. To consider yourself the wise one is a statement of arrogance – typical of the ‘condescending righteous taught by Roman Christendom’
2Ti 4:2 Preach the word; You preach Ellen White doctrine – and you are left unable to answer questions from scripture
Joh 1:22 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer You preach Ellen White doctrine – and you are left unable to answer questions from scripture
1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear: You preach Ellen White doctrine – and you are left unable to answer questions from scripture
Then in your frustration - you self destruct into assumptions and specualtions that just spoil your credability and grasp at consperacy to support your views.
Fact - Don Patton is a scientific baffoon Fact - Walter Veith is a liar about Judaism Fact - Your SDA doctrine clashes whith mainstream Christianity Fact - you do not understand Judaism
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2021 17:00:01 GMT -5
A new question for you Dave on the corona virus studies I am doing:- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/NC_045512Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 isolate Wuhan-Hu-1, complete genome Genome of the COV19 virus:- royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.200636Presence of mismatches between diagnostic PCR assays and coronavirus SARS-CoV-2 genome Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2; initially named as 2019-nCoV) is responsible for the recent COVID-19 pandemic and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is the current standard method for its diagnosis from patient samples. This study conducted a reassessment of published diagnostic PCR assays, including those recommended by the World Health Organization (WHO), through the evaluation of mismatches with publicly available viral sequences. An exhaustive evaluation of the sequence variability within the primer/probe target regions of the viral genome was performed using more than 17 000 viral sequences from around the world. The analysis showed the presence of mutations/mismatches in primer/probe binding regions of 7 assays out of 27 assays studied. A comprehensive bioinformatics approach for in silico inclusivity evaluation of PCR diagnostic assays of SARS-CoV-2 was validated using freely available software programs that can be applied to any diagnostic assay of choice. These findings provide potentially important information for clinicians, laboratory professionals and policy-makers. Rob: " The analysis showed the presence of mutations/mismatches in primer/probe binding regions of 7 assays out of 27 assays studied. That means 85% of the primer PCR testing is accurate. Or 25% of tests may give false readings.Introduction On 31 December 2019, a cluster of 41 pneumonia cases of unknown aetiology in Wuhan, China, were reported to the World Health Organization (WHO). Subsequently, a novel coronavirus of zoonotic origin, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2; initially named as 2019-nCoV), was isolated from the patients [1–3]. The virus has spread to more than 200 countries and territories resulting in global coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic [4]. The rapid spread of the virus is partially attributed to the transmission by asymptomatic carriers or mildly symptomatic cases [5,6]. Early diagnostic testing is an important tool for policy-makers to make public health decisions to contain the outbreak. The virus from the patients was identified and sequenced early in the outbreak [1,7] and resulted in the development of several polymerase chain reaction (PCR) detection protocols by multiple national organizations that were published by the WHO [8]. In addition, several other methods have been developed and published in the literature recently [5,7,9–15]. However, the molecular diagnosis of SARS-CoV-2 may be jeopardized by potential preanalytical and analytical vulnerabilities including lack of harmonization of primers and probes [16]. Given the potential for the viruses to mutate, genetic variations in the viral genome at primer/probe binding regions can result in potential mismatches and false-negative results [17]. For example, primer and template mismatches have been reported to impede proper diagnosis of several viruses including influenza virus [18–21], respiratory syncytial virus [22], dengue virus [23], rabies virus [24], human immunodeficiency virus-1 [25,26] and hepatitis B virus [27,28]. SARS-CoV-2 is an enveloped positive-strand RNA virus classified as a member of family Coronaviridae in the genus Betacoronavirus along with SARS-CoV and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS)-CoV [29]. The sequence analysis of SARS-CoV-2 isolates has shown that its single-stranded RNA genome is approximately 30 kb in size [1,7,30]. Based on similarity with SARS-CoV, SARS-CoV-2 genome has been predicted to encode at least 10 open reading frames (ORFs) for structural and accessory proteins. As per current annotation (NC_045512.2), these viral ORFs encode replicase ORF1ab, spike (S), envelope (E), membrane (M) and nucleocapsid (N), and at least six accessory proteins (3a, 6, 7a, 7b, 8 and 10) [31]. Human coronaviruses encode a proofreading exoribonuclease, nsp14-ExoN, for maintaining replication fidelity and thus have a relatively slower mutation rate than other RNA viruses [32,33]. SARS-CoV-2 encodes nsp14-ExoN as well [1], but mutations have been described in the genome for circulating SARS-CoV-2 [34–38]. Some laboratories have performed the alignment of diagnostic primers/probes with a limited number of viral sequences and have reported some mismatches [39,40] which may lead to false-negative results [41]. The use of several commercially developed diagnostic assays has also been permitted around the world with limited regulatory approval due to the pandemic emergency [42]. However, the limit of detection of these assays differs considerably and can also lead to false-negative results [43]. As there are already reports of false-negative diagnosis of COVID-19 [44–48], there is a need for verification of potential primer/probe mismatch with the sequences of viral isolates being isolated from around the world. The American Society for Microbiology COVID-19 International Summit held on 23 March 2020 recommended routine verification of sequence mutations in primer and probe binding regions of the viral genome for optimal virus detection [49]. The objective of this study is the in silico reassessment of previously published PCR primers/probes for COVID-19 diagnosis. This was performed through the evaluation of the sequence variability within the primer/probe target regions of SARS-CoV-2 viral isolates from around the world. The absence of any mutations and mismatches in target regions of the assay used would provide a higher degree of confidence in the test results obtained while the presence of mutations could help guide the strategies for the reassessment of diagnostic assays. We believe that these findings provide potentially important information for clinicians, laboratory professionals and policy-makers. Rob" THis study evaluates the primer and "mismatches in target regions of the assay". A total of 27 PCR primer-probe sets were selected based on literature review [9,10,12–15,50–52] and on the assays posted on WHO website [8] originally developed by seven different national institutions including Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (China CDC), China; Institut Pasteur, Paris, France; US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), USA; National Institute of Infectious Diseases, Japan; Charité – Universitätsmedizin Berlin Institute of Virology, Germany; The University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong; and National Institute of Health, Thailand. Rob" These 27 primers were evaluated in how well they make assessment for the virus assay.The MSA sequence for forward primer, probe and reverse primer were stratified using the SequenceTracer module (http://entropy.szu.cz:8080/EntropyCalcWeb/sequences) of the Alignment Explorer [61]. Rob" Must investigate this software tool.Rob" Results showing different primers and there mismatches identifying the virusIt was observed that the primers/probe of 20 assays out of 27 assays tested showed a perfect match with the template at the defined threshold (table 2). Rob" I do not observe this. I note there are 76 primers tested, and only two showed zero mismatches. So the PCR testing is 98% inaccurate if one uses all the primers selected. So primer choice is critical to a successful PCR test. Discussion: The other 20 assays show a perfect match with 100% of sequences at the defined threshold of 0.5%. Rob: How can a 100% match be acceptable with 0.5% error? A single error causes the PCR test to make billions of copies of the mismatch. How many have a 100% match at the defined threshold of 0.0%, would be a true indication of primer accuracy?"The WHO recommended assays of SARS-CoV-2 were developed by multiple national organizations early in the outbreak with limited genomic sequence data available and have been instrumental for the diagnosis of COVID-19. However, some of the assays have not been reassessed in the light of the risk of mutations during viral evolution. Based on the analysis of 17 027 viral sequences, this study demonstrates the presence of mutations/mismatches in the primer/probe binding regions of some published assays" However, many of the mismatches could be rare variants or sequencing errors, and variability in the assay binding regions should be assessed across a larger number of viral sequences. Rob" What about picking up DNA fragments from white blood cells that match the virus sequence? Not considered in this study? In addition, the diagnostic assay should not be revised based on the presence of rare variants in the population and thus a threshold of 0.5% was defined to eliminate such variants from the analysis. Rob" So like the GM contaminating the NonGM foods, the WHO now classifys up to 5% contamination of GM food with nonGM foods, the organic foods is still considered not contaminated? So now we classify that 5% mismatching is allowed and the PCR test is still considered accurate? For instance, choosing a threshold of 0.2% would have resulted in a mismatch with five additional assays that were reported to match with 100% of sequences in the current analysis. Rob" Correct, and considering a threshold of 0.0% would have resulted in 98% mismatches for all the tests. As of 12 May 2020, a total of 54 commercial diagnostic test kits including the one developed by the US-CDC have received emergency use authorization (EUA) from the FDA Although not addressed in this article, other factors for reassessment include in silico cross-reactivity with human genes, genes of other members of family Coronaviridae and other respiratory viruses/bacteria Rob" so are there other studies that do study this problem?Another source of bias may arise from the submission of isolates after passaging in the cell culture as well as sequencing artefacts including ambiguous data, short artificial insertions or deletions, incorrect sequence directions, incorrect nucleotide insertions, short sequence stretches and sequence longer than standard length ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I want you to evaluate my discusssions. Thanks.Shalom
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Post by Dave on Sept 6, 2021 0:48:57 GMT -5
royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.200636Rob: " The analysis showed the presence of mutations/mismatches in primer/probe binding regions of 7 assays out of 27 assays studied. That means 85% of the primer PCR testing is accurate. Or 25% of tests may give false readings.That means 85% of the primer PCR testing is accurate. Or 25% of tests may give false readings(if I understand your presentation correctly) - NO – you are absolutely incorrect1- in a 20 base pare tag – if it binds 19 / 18/ 17 /16 / or even 14 sites it still works – it just has base pair mismatches 2- you assume that the base pair miss-match occur with errors in the tag – a manufacturing error NO – MOST base pairs are mono-clonal (very close to being all the same) The MOST variation comes just from nature and the viron itself 3- no 2 humans are alike – not 2 bacteria are alike – no 2 virons are always 100% absolutely alike 4- virons are living creatures and they change and mutate However, the molecular diagnosis of SARS-CoV-2 may be jeopardized by potential preanalytical and analytical vulnerabilities including lack of harmonization of primers and probes [16]. Given the potential for the viruses to mutate, genetic variations in the viral genome at primer/probe binding regions can result in potential mismatches and false-negative results That is what I just saidThe use of several commercially developed diagnostic assays has also been permitted around the world with limited regulatory approval due to the pandemic emergency. However, the limit of detection of these assays differs considerably and can also lead to false-negative results Good example – China made some test kits – India said they do not workTruth – maybe they don’t work – or maybe they do with great effectiveness in China to a different strain?Rob" These 27 primers were evaluated in how well they make assessment for the virus assay.It was observed that the primers/probe of 20 assays out of 27 assays tested showed a perfect match with the template at the defined threshold (table 2). Rob" I do not observe this. I note there are 76 primers tested, and only two showed zero mismatches. So the PCR testing is 98% inaccurate if one uses all the primers selected. So primer choice is critical to a successful PCR test. You demand too much – think of medicine as a target Medicine tries it best to keep the results in the black – you expect it to be bulls eye every timeDiscussion: The other 20 assays show a perfect match with 100% of sequences at the defined threshold of 0.5%. Rob: How can a 100% match be acceptable with 0.5% error? A single error causes the PCR test to make billions of copies of the mismatch. How many have a 100% match at the defined threshold of 0.0%, would be a true indication of primer accuracy?NO again – you forget we are dealing with nature and the variability of nature and the rapid ability of a viron to mutate 1 test out of 200 may or may not read correctly I do not know of a quick and dirty rapid test that does any betterREMBER these are rapid test – if this was an unknown or something on the terrorist list like anthrax It would go to state and then on the CDC to be grown in a lab for verification However, some of the assays have not been reassessed in the light of the risk of mutations during viral evolution. Based on the analysis of 17 027 viral sequences, this study demonstrates the presence of mutations/mismatches in the primer/probe binding regions of some published assays"Again – rapid viron mutationsHowever, many of the mismatches could be rare variants or sequencing errors, and variability in the assay binding regions should be assessed across a larger number of viral sequences.This is actually saying 20 base pair is too small to include multiple variantsRob" What about picking up DNA fragments from white blood cells that match the virus sequence? Not considered in this study?Again – I do not understand youThe tags are made to match the viron – whether it came from the wild or made by your respiratory cells – not white cells In Immunity – there is a magic number = 500 daltons A foreign object must be 500 daltons in size for your immune system to react A white cell (PMN or Mono) eat the foreign invader – then displays some of that digested material on it surface T- helper cells – transport that to a B cell – which then makes anti-bodies and release them in a zillon numbers The anti-bodies attach to the foreign thing – like a tag That anti-body tag then call for other white cells to eat it – destroying it Virus are small – tiny – often missed by your immune system By the time the viron is in greater number for your immune system to respond – its too late THERFORE – your new word an adjuvant It is not the anti-body in the vaccine – it is something else that causes the viron to be noticed Aluminum – valine – mercury – several others – maybe your graphene oxide in nasal spays if approved In addition, the diagnostic assay should not be revised based on the presence of rare variants in the population and thus a threshold of 0.5% was defined to eliminate such variants from the analysis.NO – you want to include more variant to make the test work for more varients
Rob" Correct, and considering a threshold of 0.0% would have resulted in 98% mismatches for all the tests.NO – if I understand you correctly – it would probably increase the false negatives – by not picking up the variantsRob" So like the GM contaminating the NonGM foods, the WHO now classifys up to 5% contamination of GM food with nonGM foods, the organic foods is still considered not contaminated? So now we classify that 5% mismatching is allowed and the PCR test is still considered accurate? 1- there is no such this as a 100% perfect match – in the world of biology Even genetic clones are subject to genetic drift and degradation 2- YES – we do live in a world of computed statistics You are a living thing if you took your pulse every minute of the day as you work and sleep You would have a pile of different answers – sometimes fast – sometimes slow So what is your heart rate? – the statistical average of the dayAspirin is a safe and very effective drug for billions of people – some folk are allergic WWII Fleming discovered penicillin – miracle drug - some folk are allergic to it I never in my career turned out a negative HIV result – statistically I may have a false negative So all HIV test results say POS or NON-Reactive (just means the test kit says no) At time we report – equivocal – 0-10=neg / 10and up = Pos – but I got 10 as an answer – what do I report pos or neg? In 1994 we got a bunch of new test kits at work – easy test – a drop of serum and wait 11-12 minutes Not 10 – or 13 – but only reliable at 11-12 minutes. If a line appeared it was pos – we all could not tell 4 people would look at it – 2 said yes – 2 said no – what do you report Our solution – copy the test – if the copier saw it we could document it You demand too much from medicine – it is called the practice of Although not addressed in this article, other factors for reassessment include in silico cross-reactivity with human genes, genes of other members of family Coronaviridae and other respiratory viruses/bacteriaOk here is a gem – and the reason I am an anti-vaxer at heartIf the base pair primer is too specific – you miss the variants If you make the primer bigger – or use multiple primers – you run the risk in nature of measuring other things Stupid example – you have a pig infestation – you isolate something specific to a pig – say his ear If your primer is too specific – you will only find that specific breed of pig OK – so you catch more variants of pig – you make the primer less specific to cover more base pair types However – the risk is – as you make the primer bigger – the risk of it binding to YOU increases My example – truth – pneumococcus vaccine is still grown in the lung tissue of a 34 week aborted black female baby from Philadelphia – (google it – it is called Wisker Institute cell line W34) the vaccine insert says <5pg of Human DNA (from that lung tissue cell line) That <5pg in a million recipients caused a spike in auto-immune diseases – very popular What do we look for in a auto-immune disease – anti-human DNA anti-bodies that attack your own DNA Wonder where that came from? Rob" so are there other studies that do study this problem?cross-reactivity – isn’t studying increasing the specificity of the vaccineIt is watching – measuring – harm to non-covid things – AND FALSE POSITIVESHere is a common one we have all dealt with in medicine – rapid home test kits for GI bleeds Just smear some poop on a card and drop 2 drops of hydrogen peroxide – if the test pad turn blue consult your doctor immediately. The problem – it is a peroxidase reaction – anyone who like to crunch on radishes – horseradish – parsnips – and a few greens all tested positive Every test – comes with some false positives – some more that others - examplewww.winchesterhospital.org/health-library/article?id=13837If you take or eat: | You could test positive for: | Ibuprofen | Marijuana, barbiturates, or benzodiazepines | Cold remedies | Amphetamine | Hay fever remedies | Amphetamine | Nasal decongestants | Amphetamine | Diet pills | Amphetamine | Sleep aids | Barbiturates | Poppy seeds | Opiates/morphine | Hemp food products | Marijuana |
Sometimes, a drug test may report the presence of drugs when a person did not take any. This is not common, but no test is 100% accurate. Lab errors account for some of the mistakes, but most false-positives may be due to over the counter drugs and foods that can affect the test, such as: *Large amounts of poppy seeds would need to be eaten to cause a positive test. Good tests can tell poppy seeds apart from opiates. (never saw this in 28 years) **Some people eat hemp oil because they believe it has nutritional benefits. If you are mistakenly found positive for drug use, think about whether you have taken any substances known to cause false-positives. Again we are talking about rapid testing – ever positive I have ever had went to a reference lab for a gas chromatograph – if it was really Walmart Ibuprofen - that result will tell you with batch number and manufacture date
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2021 13:09:43 GMT -5
Nice comments. Thanks Dave.
The study notes that the human coronavirus strain mutates slowly and rarely. You have not noted this.
Also the primer is selected deliberately to match specific sites. The probability of 20 factorial verses 60,000 factorial is a very massive number. Of this number in the trillions of variations, how many other DNA/RNA fragments may match causing false positives, ie fragments of white blood cell DNA that turn up in the serum to be tested? These cells try to match the virus cells so the 3D structure captures the 3D structure of the virus. To achieve this the DNA folding of proteins would be similar, but not exact? Is this reasoning correct?
Since the 60,000 base pair is precise, than the primer should be precise (with some wild card positions in your design to allow for variations) I have learned in primer design you can manufacture wild card bases in certain positions to allow anything base pair to adhere there, so pick up certain site variations.
However as you say a quick and dirty test kit lend itself to making more false positives, what does this do for a patient in the PCR test? only confirm they should take the dreaded so called vaccine that harms them? It is just another science method to get adult consent to taking the jab.
D"You demand too much – think of medicine as a target R" when I study the MSDS material safety data sheet on the LD50, the dose that kills in probability 50% of the mammals under study with a certain dose, this is considered an acceptable rate of loss for a certain poison. Not for me. I take the contamination rate as low as 1%, even than it's still too high. Thus as a janitor looking over all my chemicals, I rejected 99% of the chemicals in my store room, including petrol, vomit remover and Bar-B-Que cleaner and even graffiti remover. Instead I used metho and sandpaper for cleaning, I assume methanol was bad but ethanol wasn't. Yes I demand too much, just think 99% of the chemicals in my store room was rejected looking as the MSDS and investigating the cancer potential of each chemical.
I would not take a single vaccine, just because they use aluminium as an adjuvant. This chemical alone is enough for me to avoid. You say they use it to give the white cells an alert signal. Nice. But such a substance is highly toxic.
D"The tags are made to match the viron – whether it came from the wild or made by your respiratory cells – not white cells R" Don't white blood cells build 3D structure that envelop the 3D structures of the virus? Hence the recorded DNA of these while blood cells would be a close but not exact match of their 3D DNA base pairs? Is this thinking correct?
Thanks for your input Dave. Appreciated. Shalom
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Post by Dave on Sept 7, 2021 9:43:00 GMT -5
However as you say a quick and dirty test kit lend itself to making more false positives, what does this do for a patient in the PCR test? only confirm they should take the dreaded so called vaccine that harms them? It is just another science method to get adult consent to taking the jab.
You make dramatic leaps in conclusions YES – rapid testing – PCR or not – is not a replacement for isolating the bug and growing it in the lab Does not matter if it is a rapid test for Strep – or Staph – or flu –or now covid
Every lab result is printed with a disclaimer – this result must be interpreted in the light of other clinical findings
Here is your own example – you do not have a sore throat – you do not have a fever – your throat looks fine - but you test positive for strep – it happens every day Should you seek treatment or not? Next patient – sore throat can hardly talk – fever of 102 – throat look swollen with white patches on your tonsils – but you test negative for strep – it happens every day Should you seek treatment or not?
You forget the complexity of biology or medicine Example – you are given a job – answer the question: are they horses in the outback? You could drive the entire outback looking – 1 million in gas Is there any proof you would see a horse – no – they move around You could fly over all the land – 10 million in gas Your chance of seeing them is much better – still not 100% full proof You could build a space satellite – 100 million gas Or – you could do a quick and dirty and offer 10 dollars to anyone who finds a chuck of horse shit
Above example – strep – the only proof is to grow it in the lab and test it against all your anti-biotics to see which the best is – 3 or 4 days Quick and dirty allows the Doctor to medicate right now with a STATISTICAL certainty of being correct
Another real life medical example – do I have a GI bleed? Quick and dirty card test – smear some poop on the card – add a drop of developer What does negative mean? ANYTHING – it only means not detected We test patients 3 times a day 3 days in a row – before they are discharged 9 test in all – 9 negative in a row – before you can go
D"You demand too much – think of medicine as a target R" when I study the MSDS material safety data sheet on the LD50, the dose that kills in probability 50% of the mammals under study with a certain dose, this is considered an acceptable rate of loss for a certain poison. Not for me. I take the contamination rate as low as 1%, even than it's still too high.
You make dramatic leaps in conclusions What dose contamination rate – have to do with LD50? – absolutely NOTHING You are talking nonsense!
(google) How do you measure LD50? LD 50 is a measure of the product's acute (single dose), oral toxicity against laboratory rats.
Are you a rat that only weighs 4 ounces?
Water Toxicity (LD50) | AAT Bioquesthttps://www.aatbio.com › Resources This online calculator will give the known LD50 (median lethal dose) value of a selected chemical compound given any mass. Though water has a vastly higher LD50 compared to any other chemical — roughly 90 grams per kilogram of body weight
Oop! – do you drink water?
If water has an LD50 higher than your toxic chemicals – what does LD50 have to do with contamination rates – how does water contaminate water The LD50 of milk should really scare you
You are making up imaginary facts – you do not understand the science you use and quote You make dramatic leaps in conclusions
I would not take a single vaccine, just because they use aluminium as an adjuvant. This chemical alone is enough for me to avoid. You say they use it to give the white cells an alert signal. Nice. But such a substance is highly toxic.
Do you have any aluminum cookware in the house? You get more aluminum from breakfast than from a vaccine
You say you are a vegan Arsenic has an LD50 of around 13 mg/kg
(google) Because rice plants are known to accumulate arsenic more than similar crops, rice safety guidelines aim to minimise potential exposure. The Australian rice guidelines are for total arsenic (organic and inorganic) and set a maximum level of 1mg/kg. This is more than 3 times higher than the standard for total arsenic set by the World Health Organisation of 0.3mg/kg.
Does whole wheat have arsenic? (Image result for australia arsenic in wheat) Though not arsenic-free, wheat and oats tend to have lower levels than rice.
Cyanogenic glycosides have an LD50 of around 2 mg/kg Cyanogenic glycosides are phytotoxins (toxic chemicals produced by plants) which occur in at least 2000 plant species, of which a number of species are used as food in some areas of the world. Cassava, sorghum, stone fruits, bamboo roots and almonds are especially important foods containing cyanogenic glycosides.
R" Don't white blood cells build 3D structure that envelop the 3D structures of the virus? Hence the recorded DNA of these while blood cells would be a close but not exact match of their 3D DNA base pairs? Is this thinking correct? I think I undersatnd your question now
YES – they are called antibodies YES – you can recover anti-bodies with revers primers Most natural occurring anti-bodies are 100-130 base pairs long Can medicine make artificial anti-bodies for something and give it to you – YES
Here is the example used every day Mom is blood type Rh- / Dad is Rh+ - baby always takes Dad blood type Rh+ (75%-100% of the times) First baby is fine – but at birth because of placental disruption Mom is exposed to her babies Rh+ blood So naturally her body makes anti-bodies to that Rh+ blood and destroys it Next baby – pregnancy is all well until about the 12th week then miscarriage Every baby she has with that same husband aborts at the 12th week (75%-100% of the time) Because babies are Rh+ after Dad – and Mom now has anti-bodies to Rh+ So whenever the babies makes its own blood – Mom’s immune system kills it
Modern day solution Give Rh+ blood to a white lab mouse – the mouse makes the anti-body We recover that anti-body with a reverse primer It is called RhoGam IgG – every Rh- mother will get a shot at 28 weeks After delivery we do a fetal screen – because 1 RhoGam IgG shot is with 15cc of fetal bleed – some Mom’s need one more shot some need two more shots
We give Mom – “mouse mono-clonal anti-bodies” man-made anti-bodies and it works fine 30 days later Mom has pissed out everything – the bad and the mono-clonal antibodis Mom has to have these RhoGam shots at 28 wks and post-delivery for each and every baby
Man-made anti-bodies from the outside will just be “cleared” from the body = pissed out Starting immediately and fully cleared eventually This is called passive immunity – works for a short time
You take any drug – it does not stay in your body – it is cleared – it is washed out Some things faster than others
If they made a man-made covid mono-clonal anti-body and gave it to you You would have to get a new shot every month or every other week to maintain immunity
The whole point of – the science of a vaccine is to stimulate you own white cells to make these anti-bodies themselves Theory – 1- take a smallpox virus – freeze it / cook it / denature it / damage it / cripple it / break it in parts = attenuating it (make it non-disease causing) 2- now expose you to a small dose of it 3- your body sees it – and makes an anti-body to it 4- because you made your own anti-body – you remember it – so any time / every time you are exposed you are naturally immune Natural immunity for the rest of your life
So every time you are exposed – you are immune every time – because your makes more anti-body whenever it needs to – from memory.
Here is the problem with vaccine science Vocabulary - new word SERIAL CONVERT - means my body saw it and respsonde with an anti-body 1- take a smallpox virus – freeze it / cook it / denature it / damage it / cripple it / break it in parts = attenuating it (make it non-disease causing)
I know you want perfection but - It is all in the staitics If you antenuate your target a lot - you make it safer - you also make it weaker and less people seril convert If you antenuate your target not enought - some folk actally get the disease rom the vaccine It is a precentage game - the level that works the best but causes the least harm
Just like the speed limit - the level that works the best but causes the least harm
Complexity of biology Just like legal limit for alcohol - the level that works the best but causes the least harm I can speak to this with knowledge 10 guys - all have 3 beers 3 guys are too drunk to stand 3 mores guys are too drunk to drive 3 guys are still at the bar for 3 more beers
Next day - 1 of the guys who had 6 beers dose not even test postivie but the guy that had one beer only - is still legally drunk and can be arrested and the guy who you didn't even think was drinking test the highest of them all and the one slurring his words and falling down - is leagal to drive?
WHY? - all different body weight - fat content - liver function - kidney function - health statis - racial background - and tolerance to the booze
FYI - ever hear - Americans called whiskey fire water? American Indians go crazy when drunk - become addicted overnight - all cowboy movies have an American Indian drunk in them - why
All American Indians (94.5%) are diabetic - because they lack the enzyme sucrase Just as many African Blacks lack the enzyme lactase and are lactose intolerant American Indians are sucrose intolerant
When and Indian gets drunk - they also go into a diabedic acidosis and their sugars spike aroud 500 or more
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Post by Dave on Sept 7, 2021 10:17:54 GMT -5
As read this let me answer your next question Can medicine make artificial anti-bodies for something and give it to you – YESSo - if you are sick and at risk of dying - why doesn't medicine just give you a big shot of man-made anti-covid-anti-bodyEasy Answer - they would if they could - it is called immnuotherapy Little white lab mice are useful for many things in human biology We grow many different types of 'mouse mono-clonal anti-bodies' Flu - smallpox - anthrax - covid - just kills the mouse Next best host for many things = Rhesis Monkeys Question - how many Rhesis Monkeys can you kill to make a life saving vacine - none Question - how many rabbits can you kill to test eye make up - none One reason countries like China are allowed to do what they do Hystorectomies save millon of lives every year from cancer - it only took Josef Mengele 5000 Jewish women at Auschwitz to prfect the surgery FYI - the animal of interest is the SHARK Did you know that you cannot force a shark to have cancer! Amazing! Actually - medical reseach support many shark centers all over the world FYI - Research - US President / immnontherapy / brain cancer mets 1- brain cancer mets - means little dots of cancer spread all around (stage 4 - death door - surgery impossible) 2- they took a sample of his cancer (inner-cranial fine needle biopsy) 3- they - made a man-made anti-body to his cancer - gave him an IV drip and cured him Immnotherapy - is the hope of the future - only one example of it working How many millions of dollars went into saving one life - but a willing guinne pig Was that a 'shark mono-clonal anti-body" ? All the journals want to know Jimmy Carter's Cancer Immunotherapy Story - Cancer ...https://www.cancerresearch.org › en-us › 30-facts First, doctors bombarded Jimmy Carter's cancer with radiation. The damaged and dying cancer cells likely attracted the attention of immune cells. Then, he ... Understanding Jimmy Carter's Surprise Cancer Turnaroundwww.mskcc.org › ... › In the News Dec 9, 2015 — Jimmy Carter announced this week he is free of melanoma. In addition to surgery and radiation, Mr. Carter was treated with pembrolizumab ... Jimmy Carter Got Immunotherapy for Metastatic Melanomawww.aacr.org › ... › Progress Against Cancer Just four months after former President Jimmy Carter announced he had metastatic melanoma that had spread to his liver and brain, the nonagenarian said HE WAS CANCER-FREE AFTER TREATMENT WITH PEMBROLIZUMAB ... FYI - they can call it a drug but it is pemnrolizum - AB(antibody) Why don't they just make a man-made antibody for covid?Easy Answer - they would if they could - it is called immnuotherapy The first guy to do so would be an overnight millionare- capatalism - He would be honored all over the world by every culture Or - he would be murdered in his sleep - NO I MEAN he would commit sucide - or maybe fall alseep driving It depends if he is a pawn or a knight in the GREAT CONTEST So many forces - visible and invisible - manipulating us - as a part of their game - a theological contest.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 5:11:15 GMT -5
You are an interesting person Dave, very nice reading your post. Thanks. Love the medical knowledge you have.
I used to trust science once in days past, but not anymore. We live in the end of time when this prophecy kicks in:-
Re 13:11 ¶ And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
I see all over the world, our Governments are now speaking like a dragon, taking away our freedoms and our health, for this one world government agenda thing. So I just don't trust them anymore.
immnuotherapy sounds like a promising science.
so sharks never get cancer? Interesting.
American Indians lack the enzyme sucrase. Interesting.
D"I think I undersatnd your question now
YES – they are called antibodies
R" SO if you take a swab and heat it / work it / denature it , than add your PCR primer for COV19, won't the primer latch onto the antibodies giving you a false positive test for COV19?
In your opinion how accurate is our current PCR tests for COV19 virus strains?
Your info about LD50 for water was fun to learn. I didn't know this. Drinking 7 litres of water in a hour will kill you as the electrolytes are make out of balance, kidneys can't keep up. So brain function dies. No problem if you drink 7 litres of bore water?? Not sure, but interesting reading Dave.
D"You are making up imaginary facts – you do not understand the science you use and quote R" I understand the basic idea of LD50 Dave. I have an Ag Sc 4 yr degree and a Electronics & Electrical 4 yr Degree, both from universities, one in 1981 and the other in 1998.
D"Every lab result is printed with a disclaimer – this result must be interpreted in the light of other clinical findings R" Yes but science lords over the uneducated and forces them to take the jab. Is this tactic fair on the weak, the poor and the uneducated?
Would you take the COV19 vaccine jab? Justify your reasons please.
Thanks for your input and expertise. Shalom
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Post by Dave on Sept 8, 2021 13:29:27 GMT -5
immnuotherapy sounds like a promising science. so sharks never get cancer? Interesting. American Indians lack the enzyme sucrase. Interesting. Just trying to show yoo how complex biology is – there is no such thing as one size fits all There is no such thing as perfection - or absolutes
D"You are making up imaginary facts – you do not understand the science you use and quote R" I understand the basic idea of LD50 Dave. I have an Ag Sc 4 yr degree and a Electronics & Electrical 4 yr Degree, both from universities, one in 1981 and the other in 1998. And yet you think Don Patton is an amazing guy – an academic genious
R" SO if you take a swab and heat it / work it / denature it , than add your PCR primer for COV19, won't the primer latch onto the antibodies giving you a false positive test for COV19? See – here you impress me with your understanding 1- the attenuation process (heat it / work it / denature it) has nothing to do with a swab or the PCR tets itself 2- The attenuation process is how a vaccine is made – has absolutely nothing to do with test primers 3- won't the primer latch onto the antibodies giving you a false positive – impossible
Think of it like male female – primers male – viron female – mix them up and a primer can mate with a viron to be detected If you mixed primers and antibodies together – it would be male/male – mating cannot occur
However – just to be accurate – some male/male mating dose occur (can occur – possible) in Nature Why? - primers cannot mate up – impossible – they are all male But in truth – there is some degree in cross reactivity – because the end amino acid of one primer can sometimes attach to the end amino acid of another primer - not mating = / but holding hands _- This is a part ofthe study of cross reactivity
In your opinion how accurate is our current PCR tests for COV19 virus strains? All medicine – including cross reactivity between primers is all statistical analysis
If I test you sugar / glucose – I can measure that same blood sample 100 times I will not get the same answer 100 times – The best I can offer (and this is a challenge to maintain sometimes 75% of lab life is in validation QA/QC - 25% = patient results)
My goal is +/- 2SD (do you understand – Standard Deviation?) For glucose my goal is (if the answer is 100mg/dL) and I measure it 100 times my answers will be Between 99 and 101 – 98% of the time / and between 98 and 102 93.5% of the time. This leaves 2% as random outliers.
In math – it takes 3 data points to generate a mean Most languid lab assays (blood samples) are measure 3 times by your instrument – it reports the mean Every assay has limits – glucose if my answers are 99,99 36 – the instrument will do an automatic rerun There are times when the lab – Will request more sample – more blood – or a repeat draw
So many pre-analytical + post-analytical + random error to consider Quality Assurance / Quality Control This is the heart of a clinical lab guy – churning out results is the work of the young guys
Story – relevant to explain laboratory medicine – ELIZABETH HOLMES – THERNANOS She promised the world she could do all types of labs on just on drop of blood (50microL) Lab does not measure blood – we measure plasma or serum – which is only 65% of that 50microL This means at best I have 15 2microL samples for each test (nice theory)
Reality – In January when the humidity and temp are different – the electrical supply to the machine is different (grid demand) --- I will get a little different reading in August when conditions are different.
If the internal temp of the instrument is not exactly perfect – 2uL can dehydrate – concentrating the sample
Reality – no such thing as perfect – come to my lab and measure your glucose – we might run a low bias compared to our peers – now go somewhere else and measure it – if they have a high bias – the difference in results is noticeable – it is all in the statistics
PCR testing is a different type of test all together – yet same rules apply My personal knowledge – stool panels – to sensitive of test = everyone is too positive
Step kits are a throat swab just like my wife undergoes twice a week for covid SWABS – question can you walk across a pasture without stepping in a cow patty – sure Can a swab – not swab the target – sure Bad collection techniques / bad collection habits / bad collection transport / bad collection handling at lab - all before the test – (pre-analytical error) all contribute to the accuracy of the test – BOOM Step A negatives from ER are always grown in the lab – 20% of the time we grow Strep A – we rush to tell the doctor and he said – already treated anyway (on other clinical findings)
Even blood draws – many factors influence the test of this or that – (pre-analytical error)
In your opinion how accurate is our current PCR tests for COV19 virus strains? To spoil your illusion of perfection Taking into account (per-analytical error) – if the viron is on the swab – PCR will find it 98% of the time (that is the realistic target) I also know that for many reasons – two of those test may be random error either pos or neg
What I have seen over the years is everyone individual understand of STERIL I have seen lab techs sneeze then touch a swab? – what happens at the corner fire station? I have watched my wife line up for her test – a nurse took samples from everyone – without changing her gloves? Has anyone ever said this this is transported vis the air? – What happens to that swab before it was ever opened? What happened to that swab when in use? Was it ever exposed to the air?
This is why a $10 Quick and Dirty Rapid testing (20 minutes) is no replacement for isolating the viron by growing it which takes human tissue media (other ethical issues involved) and a few weeks – which cost $1500 for TB bacterium
LAST COMMENT – legal liability Manufactures of home test DESIGN a low bias into their products (google)More than 58,000 digital pregnancy tests have been recalled after some wrongly told women they were expecting. Women who have bought the Clear & Simple test, manufactured by Guangzhou Wondfo Biotech
Chinese home pregnancy test recall for too many false positives- Europe If it is a false negative (low bias) no harm done – but false positive ?
Home glucose meters – if the patient under medicates – less harm But if a person over medicate on the advice of a home meter – oops – liability
I am trying to get you to see the reality – you say you went to college – don’t you understand your reality
You make too big of conclusions on too little data - you are reacting – not educating yourself
D"Every lab result is printed with a disclaimer – this result must be interpreted in the light of other clinical findings R" Yes but science lords over the uneducated and forces them to take the jab. Is this tactic fair on the weak, the poor and the uneducated?
I see all over the world, our Governments are now speaking like a dragon, taking away our freedoms and our health, for this one world government agenda thing. So I just don't trust them anymore.
NO – recognize what is in your sight
Scott Morrison is not a scientist – nor is Xi – nor is Biden – it is government It is a sign of the times – because we are living it
Israel just bombed a Russian base in Syria Russia just bombed Iran/Hesbalah in Syria Iran/Hesbalah just bomb the nuclear reactor in Israel WWII is already happening for the 1% God’s chosen people
The rest of us are looking through the eyes of the 99% and all worried about China Sure it is relevant – but scriptures focus is upon Prophetic 1948 Israel and its conflict with the nations of Allah – ahl come alive
If we believe and trust – should we run around in fear for our lives – or marvel at scripture come alive? Worry about the beast – or praise the lord? Is it really a hard choice?
Would you take the COV19 vaccine jab? Justify your reasons please. Funny you should ask – Oct 1st all nursing home employees must vaccinate
My wife has worked at the same place since 2013 – tenured – excellent benefits She began as a CNA and became a CAMA (medication giver) – her employer paid for it Now she must choose – we have talked and prayed
I told her if she does – I will just as moral support Alone – I choose no – but also realize I am in a risk group – COPD over 65 Neighbors had covid – he and she are OK – both took ivermictin My wife’s co-worker’s mother died – Hispanic age 54 and otherwise healthy The other employers where she thinks she might like to work – require crap as well Truth – her ‘girlfriends’ that she works with are all vaccinated
Some guy in Australia said – I do the things I have to do to live the life I choose
As it stands – my wife put in her notice Oct 1 = last day Reality – my wife is an easy touch – her boss will ask her to stay because I know they will So for now – we might downsize a little and my wife will take a year off - Juiblee Gives us more time to watch and consider
If my wife wants to take time off - have a sebbatical - quit her job - I do support her I may have given her some finacial pressure to stay (husbands) If she quits - Im cool - more time together to be a family before our daughters go away to college It will take some of the luxery out of our lives - but might add quality If she folds and stays at work - I will not critiscise her for being practicle No one is asking anyone to deny Christ here - it has nothing to do with our salvations
My choice to resist has nothing to do with the mark of the beast crap It has nothing to do with salvation – it is a thing of this world – it is a thing of Caesar Is it the Beast and the movement toward one world government – absolutely
AUSTRALIA I feel for ya buddy – Just attended a wedding – business man Tom (from her but retired to Cebu Philippines) came back for the wedding – the stories he told of his business there were eye opening Without China – Australia has no business – your country is posed for a major economic depression
Because you are close – you trade with China – in Free Trade makes sense Because you trade with China – your banking systems are intertwined – also makes sense – more dollars go back and forth from you and China than you and America. China – has your banks by the balls
So even as your government attempt new trade deals with nations like India and America Transportation costs will just inflate everything for you What is going to happen in the world – without free trade? Many countries will fall into a deep depression – it will be global Australia – plugged into Free Trade is prosperous – but that trade is with China
Scott Morrison – good guy or bad guy - Some here say he is destroying your country – forever changing it Some say he will be remembered as the guy that prevented China from buying your country out from under you
If we believe and trust – should we run around in fear for our lives – or marvel at scripture come alive? Worry about the beast – or praise the lord? Is it really a hard choice?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2021 18:08:25 GMT -5
Greetings Dave D" There is no such thing as perfection - or absolutesR" The PCR test primer is absolute and latches unto specific sites. Though as you say some mismatching occurs. D" And yet you think Don Patton is an amazing guy – an academic geniousR" Do you have another guy willing to do research in Biblical research? Verify David's and Solomons temple/palace? The plain of Nebo, the sacrifices altars, the exodus, the evolution debate, the findings of the ark? etc, etc. All by one passionate Christian researcher? I also like Ron Wyatt for same reason. And Jonathon Sarfetti, and even Gerald Schroeder. I am happy to listen to your research science guys. D" See – here you impress me with your understandingR" So you mock the learner learning, is that how a teacher works? D" The attenuation process is how a vaccine is made – has absolutely nothing to do with test primersR" I am so sorry, I shouldn't copy and paste your idioms than, cross language communication issue. D" won't the primer latch onto the antibodies giving you a false positive – impossible Think of it like male female – primers male – viron female – mix them up and a primer can mate with a viron to be detected If you mixed primers and antibodies together – it would be male/male – mating cannot occurR" I see. Has any peer review discussed this so I can verfiy your scholarship? Provide a link please. See in my diagram, I am trying to imagine how the antibody is made and the amino sequence it's made of Is a 3D spike similar in structure to the 3D capture it's designed to copy? Is it enough in similar Amino acid sequence to cause a false positive in the PCR test? You say no.... D" My goal is +/- 2SD (do you understand – Standard Deviation?)R" My understanding 2SD is covering 66% of the average mean, so your testing is not very valid. +/- 3SD is is covering 95% of the average mean and considered valid in most science papers. So even with 3SD, ie 95% certain, we are making 1 in 20 tests come with a false positive and this is considered OK.What about the patient who gets the false positive? And we are assuming the PCR testing of COV19 is nice and sturdy science, care for the patient? So if you test every week say 20 times one of those times in average will test positive, and than what happens, self isolate at home, nope not allowed any more, they will throw you in a FEMA camp until you die there. Our prime NSW medical authority has said on the public fake news, "this is the new world order", so according to the regime now we have in Australia, they are no caring about the patient, it's no longer about COV19 at all. It's a fake germ anyway.... if you get pneumonia for instance, do you get no symptoms? ....like I said, its a fake disease, and they test for for a disease that offers no symptoms.... D "Step kits are a throat swab just like my wife undergoes twice a week for covidR" Sooner your wife will test positive for COV19, asymptotic and than what? D"R" In your opinion how accurate is our current PCR tests for COV19 virus strains?D "To spoil your illusion of perfection Taking into account (per-analytical error) – if the viron is on the swab – PCR will find it 98% of the time (that is the realistic target) I also know that for many reasons – two of those test may be random error either pos or negR" that good? I reckon the accuracy of the COV19 PCR test is around 92% at best, in other words 1 to 2 people tested out of 20 people tested, get a false positive. And all those tested are asymptomtic , no disease on them. D" I am trying to get you to see the reality – you say you went to college – don’t you understand your realityR" I understand all right, who gives the doctor the right to say you have a 90% chance of being tested as positive for cancer? DO they say it like that? Oh, according to 9 of our PCR tests for COV19 done on you, the balance of probabilities you have a 95% chance of having an active virus load in your body sample we took from you. Do they say it like that? I doubt it, and after all you have no symptoms, no disease...it's a fake disease done with a meaningless test kit. I mean Dave if the USA really wants us to have faith in science these days, let NASA show us pictures of the sea of transquillity from Hubble on the moon, let us sample the steel that fell from the twin towers, let us see again the war footage of the nuclear warheads place on bullets the USA army used on Quwait. Why all the hidden secret agenda, and cover ups.... we do not trust the governments any more. I do not drink my local town water, I don't trust them anymore. I do not eat fried chips anymore, I do not trust the GMO oil used anymore.I am trying to stop work, because I do not like living near a 5G tower anymore.And now we hear of the new world order, and you say everything is still OK? D" You make too big of conclusions on too little data - you are reacting – not educating yourselfR" really? D" Sure it is relevant – but scriptures focus is upon Prophetic 1948 Israel and its conflict with the nations of Allah R" Mt 24:24 ....insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. My brother the SDA Pastor has taken the jab.... I feel sorry for my brother....he is on death row now...not obeying the Lord and the Bible messages....we have waited 150 years for the end of time, and some how the average SDA person does not think the end of time has come, they wait until Sunday laws arrive before they act.... D" If we believe and trust – should we run around in fear for our lives – or marvel at scripture come alive? Worry about the beast – or praise the lord? Is it really a hard choice?R" What did Hezekiah do with a beast threat in his day? Just trust the Lord, only? Or do what He could also do as a human and trust the Lord? Some in USA are prepping, .... D" As it stands – my wife put in her notice Oct 1 = last dayR" Good for her, you both stand a chance of being saved despite this new world order... is it a salvation issue, not yet, but later it will be, in the valley of decisions, Joel 3 D "I feel for ya buddy R" Yes Australia is going into a FEMA camp soon, people will experience lock out of the jabbed society.... Many businesses will not serve the nonjabbed, but many are serving us, its going to divide us.... Soon the twice jabbed but not thrice jabbed will be called unvaccinated, and lose their vaccine passport...its a band wagon of control and more control, once on, you cannot get off until you die. D" If we believe and trust – should we run around in fear for our lives – or marvel at scripture come alive?R" Many run for fear, they do not have God in their lives. Shalom
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Post by Dave on Sept 10, 2021 21:08:59 GMT -5
D"And yet you think Don Patton is an amazing guy – an academic genious R" Do you have another guy willing to do research in Biblical research? Verify David's and Solomons temple/palace? The plain of Nebo, the sacrifices altars, the exodus, the evolution debate, the findings of the ark? etc, etc. All by one passionate Christian researcher? There are 100s of dedicated scientist – and good science and integrity - to be reviewed Don Patton is a source of neitherD" The attenuation process is how a vaccine is made – has absolutely nothing to do with test primers R" I am so sorry, I shouldn't copy and paste your idioms than, cross language communication issue. You jump to big conclusion on too little of informationIf you mixed primers and antibodies together – it would be male/male – mating cannot occur R" I see. Has any peer review discussed this so I can verfiy your scholarship? Provide a link please. Robert – the study on this is so extensive it is crazy Go to a library – learn to use the internet – pay the money and get factual data – not conspiracy websites to fuel your fear I will warn you right now - you will not understand the vocablary in these books without a year of general genetics first - and that comes after a year of immunologyD"My goal is +/- 2SD (do you understand – Standard Deviation?) R" My understanding 2SD is covering 66% of the average mean, so your testing is not very valid. +/- 3SD is is covering 95% of the average mean and considered valid in most science papers.So you don’t understand stand deviation – your SD is a measured variable –I can make my SD any number I want – by increasing my accuracy I can make my SD so tight the lab will spend 1000s in calibrations Or I can make my SD so loose that any QC result will passD"My goal is +/- 2SD (do you understand – Standard Deviation?) The goal of QA/AC is to tighten your SD as narrow as possible My goal is +/- 2SD (do you understand – Standard Deviation?) For glucose my goal is (if the answer is 100mg/dL) and I measure it 100 times my answers will be Between 99 and 101 – 98% of the time / and between 98 and 102 93.5% of the time. This leaves 2% as random outliers. ....like I said, its a fake disease, and they test for for a disease that offers no symptoms....It is dangerous to be so stupid – I have known people to have covid and recover – I am also awar of many that have died – 35 in our area – 11 names that I recognize – 2 would have known me by name. It is very real – is it a life threatening as they say? –It is more life threating that the ordinary flu – yjay also is very real and cause death every year to the weak and infirmed D"I am trying to get you to see the reality – you say you went to college – don’t you understand your reality R" I understand all right, who gives the doctor the right to say you have a 90% chance of being tested as positive for cancer? DO they say it like that? No – they say in light of multiple clinical findings – as every lab test disclaimsI mean Dave if the USA really wants us to have faith in science these days, let NASA show us pictures of the sea of transquillity from Hubble on the moon, Already done – you just denied them – called them fake It is your programmed answer to most everything – it is all fake – history – science – NASA – no one has been to the moon – I am surprised you are not a flat earther as welllet us sample the steel that fell from the twin towers, Already done - Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth The truth has been revealed – does anyone care? let us see again the war footage of the nuclear warheads place on bullets the USA army used on Quwait. Kuwait was our ally – but in Kuwait we used ‘depleted uranium bullets’ AC10 30mm anti-tank rounds Many Youtube videos of the A10 in action – it is very famous (the flying bathtub)I do not drink my local town water, I don't trust them anymore. I do not eat fried chips anymore, I do not trust the GMO oil used anymore. I am trying to stop work, because I do not like living near a 5G tower anymore. And now we hear of the new world order, and you say everything is still OK?D" If we believe and trust – should we run around in fear for our lives – or marvel at scripture come alive? R" Many run for fear, they do not have God in their lives. How do you find the time to praise God and enjoy his creation – if you are afraid to live?D"If we believe and trust – should we run around in fear for our lives – or marvel at scripture come alive? Worry about the beast – or praise the lord? Is it really a hard choice? D"You make too big of conclusions on too little data - you are reacting – not educating yourselfR" really?YES – a lot – over and over – dramatically – dangerously My brother the SDA Pastor has taken the jab.... I feel sorry for my brother....he is on death row now...not obeying the Lord and the Bible messages.... Life is terminal – we are all on death rowShow me your scripture – do not take a vaccinewe have waited 150 years for the end of time, and some how the average SDA person does not think the end of time has come, they wait until Sunday laws arrive before they act....AND YOU DENY 1948 ISREAL AS PROPHETIC Double speaker – flip flopper – inconsistent theology D"I feel for ya buddy R" Yes Australia is going into a FEMA camp soon, people will experience lock out of the jabbed society....You miss the larger picture1- your country – without China – just lost 40% of its yearly income 2- your government had a stimulus package for business – encouraging investment in China All those (most) investments are now bust 3- your government is scrambling to find new trade partners 4- however Australia recovers – it will inflate the cost of living – across the board 5—Australia is one of the worse countries for housing bubbles Your country is in for a depression – and it will spread to other 3rd would countries
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Post by Dillon on Sept 11, 2021 2:00:44 GMT -5
D"I feel for ya buddy R" Yes Australia is going into a FEMA camp soon, people will experience lock out of the jabbed society.... You miss the larger picture 1- your country – without China – just lost 40% of its yearly income 2- your government had a stimulus package for business – encouraging investment in China All those (most) investments are now bust 3- your government is scrambling to find new trade partners 4- however Australia recovers – it will inflate the cost of living – across the board 5—Australia is one of the worse countries for housing bubbles Your country is in for a depression – and it will spread to other 3rd would countries I am beginning to understand the free trade issue. Before free trade countries did not openly trade with one another. England traded with its colonies. France and Spain traded with their colonies. Shipping between homeland and colonies looked like: During the period of US Sponsored Free Trade, shipping looked like Now that America is withdrawing as the world’s policeman, shipping looks like Iran's largest warship catches fire, sinks in Gulf of Omanhttps://apnews.com › article › iran-largest-warship-catch... Jun 2, 2021 — The fire Wednesday aboard the Kharg warship follows a series of mysterious explosions that began in 2019 targeting commercial ships in the Gulf ... US, UK and Israel blame Iran for ship attack; Tehran denieshttps://apnews.com › article › middle-east-business-iran... Aug 1, 2021 — The strike on the Mercer Street marked the first-known fatal attack after years of assaults on commercial shipping in the region linked to ... Cargo Ship, Recently Israeli-Led, Is Struck in High Seas ...https://www.nytimes.com › World › Middle East Jul 3, 2021 — Iran has engaged in its own maritime attacks. In March and April, Israeli-owned cargo ships came under Iranian fire, according to Israeli ... Blast at Iranian complex housing drone factory injures nine | Iranhttps://www.theguardian.com › world › may › blast-at-i... May 23, 2021 — A complex that houses a factory that makes Iranian drones has suffered a major explosion days after Israel had claimed that Iran was ... Fire And Explosion Hit Iran Steel Mill In Third Such Incident In ...https://iranintl.com › iran › fire-and-explosion-hit-iran-... Jun 6, 2021 — Saturday evening a large fire and a strong explosion rocked an Iranian steel mill in Zarand, Kerman Province, in the third such incident in ... Explosion hits another power plant in Iran - CBS Newshttps://www.cbsnews.com › news › iran-power-plant-ex... Jul 20, 2020 — An explosion hit a power plant in the central Iranian province of Isfahan on Sunday, state news agency IRNA reported, saying it was over ...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2021 14:28:10 GMT -5
D"There are 100s of dedicated scientist – and good science and integrity - to be reviewed R" really. Such a person must 1) be a Christian 2) uphold the earth is less than 10,000 years old 3) disprove evolution ideas 4) seek to find Noahs ark 5) speak of God nicely 6) look for evidence of David's palace and SOlomons time in the past, via diggings 7) present the evidence in picture form.
DOn Patton has done all these things. Show me such a science person.
Sadly Gerald Schroeder has no further videos.
Sadly Sarfetti does not speak of all issues.
DO you have one Dave?
D"I can make my SD any number I want – by increasing my accuracy R" correct Dave, SD is a mathematical play on number around a mean, that is assumed to display a bell curve. +/- 3 SD is 95% certain the mean number is correct, not your 2SD which cover only 66% of data. I studied bio-mathematics at uni Dave, so am very familiar with this procedure.
D"My goal is +/- 2SD (do you understand – Standard Deviation?) The goal of QA/AC is to tighten your SD as narrow as possible R" you will never tighten anything if you seek 2SD, you must seek 3SD.
D"It is very real – is it a life threatening as they say? –It is more life threating that the ordinary flu – R" you think? Prove this to me
SHow me a picture of an autopsy with lab results, looking at body tissues, etc. The disease is supposed to be closest to pneumonia, which is caused by bacteria. If a virus can emulate pneumonia like symptoms, that would be serious indeed.
Prove this to me. And I will publish your findings for the world to see. It will go viral.
For starters, you are not allowed to autopsy a person who died of COV19. Some have and revealed trillions of blood clots in the person. How is that a pneumonia like disease?
SOunds more like graphene oxide cutting your blood vessels up.
D"It is your programmed answer to most everything – it is all fake R" Dave if I went to Parkes NSW Australia, and asked them to photo the sea of tranquility at just the right moments, they would refuse .... why is that? You tell me?
D"Already done - Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth The truth has been revealed – does anyone care? R" Dave I have a 3 hour video of the twin tower compiled by 700 engineers all signing the video, including the guy who built the twin towers, asking the Gov for answers to their video... yes the Gov does not care, because they would be exposed....
D"but in Kuwait we used ‘depleted uranium bullets’ AC10 30mm anti-tank rounds R" so you OK with this? Kuwait has deformed babies to this day, USA deny they used radioactive bullets.
D" How do you find the time to praise God and enjoy his creation – if you are afraid to live? R" Dave we are entering the last days of earth time.
Da 12:1 ¶ And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
One world government, mark of beast, whole world must be jabbed by 2025. All humans to be genetically modified by 2025 we are told... it is coming soon.
Hard to live in Australian right now Dave, soon I wil not be able to work, like your wife, I do not take jab.
Than they try to take us away from my land to some FEMA camp.
Spy on all Internet traffic, including emails, to legally prosecute you. Bill passed in 2 sep.
Australia is in tyranny.
Those is Jesus need not fear, but Dave we enter a time of trouble....no food, no petrol, no job, no communication... I feel sorry for others not in Jesus...how do I help them wake from sleep? D"Show me your scripture – do not take a vaccine R" this verse"
Re 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: {to receive: Gr. to give them} 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Re 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. {abundance: or, power} 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Plagues is stenos, the idea of drug like chemicals
De 22:9 Thou shalt not sow thy vineyard with divers seeds: lest the fruit of thy seed which thou hast sown, and the fruit of thy vineyard, be defiled. Stay away from GMO sources.
D"AND YOU DENY 1948 ISREAL AS PROPHETIC Double speaker – flip flopper – inconsistent theology R" I do not deny the Jews in their history or future prophecy... I am just interested in my own history
D"Your country is in for a depression – and it will spread to other 3rd would countries R" you think it is naturally caused...? I would say intentionally caused... Masons want countries to go broke, brings on global reset, one world order.
Heard on USA video, Biden has introduced mandatory jabs....you my friend will feel the beast powers too.
Thanks for comments DIllon, interesting.
SHalom gentlemen
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Post by Dave on Sept 11, 2021 17:05:17 GMT -5
D"There are 100s of dedicated scientist – and good science and integrity - to be reviewed R" really. Such a person must Don Patton has done all these things. Show me such a science person. WOW – does this mean he is correct or honest? – NO!D"I can make my SD any number I want – by increasing my accuracyD"My goal is +/- 2SD (do you understand – Standard Deviation?) The goal of QA/AC is to tighten your SD as narrow as possible R" you will never tighten anything if you seek 2SD, you must seek 3SD. Amazing Robert – did you really go to college? – you have no idea of what you speak! In nature things distribute themselves as you describe – does that have anything to do with what I have said – NOYou just want to play a stupid word game – you prove your understandingDay 1 at the rifle range 5 rounds – I shoot 10,3,6,1,10 = my mean = 6 my SD = 3.6 my CV = 13.2 Day 2 at the rifle range I shoot – 9,4,8,5,7 = my mean = 6.6 my SD = 1.85 my CV = 3.44 Day 3 I shoot 9, 7, 9, 10, 8 = my mean = 8.6 my SD = 1.01 my CV = 1.04 Not good enough in medicine – I need 9, 10, 8, 10, 10 my mean = 9.4 my SD = 0.08 <1 my CV = 0.64 <1 What about 3,3,3,3,3, my mean = 3 my SD = 0 – my CV = 0 My answers are just not a bulls eye – left bias What about 6,6,6,6,6 - again great math – just not a bulls eye Robert – you have no idea of what you speak! D"It is very real – is it a life threatening as they say? –It is more life threating that the ordinary flu – R" you think? Prove this to meIt is dangerous to be so stupidSOunds more like graphene oxide cutting your blood vessels up.Just conspiracy fear talk – I’ll stick to the factsD"It is your programmed answer to most everything – it is all fake R" Dave if I went to Parkes NSW Australia, and asked them to photo the sea of tranquility at just the right moments, they would refuse .... why is that? You tell me?Because of the focal length of their telescope – DUHYour understand of the world around you is seriously lacking!NASA used a orbiting lunar satellite that they maneuvered to within 13 miles of the surface to take those imagesYou denied it all – called it fakeD"but in Kuwait we used ‘depleted uranium bullets’ AC10 30mm anti-tank rounds R" so you OK with this? Kuwait has deformed babies to this day, USA deny they used radioactive bullets. OK – Israel was the first to use a biological weapon The Philistines stole the Ark of the Covenant and only the Philistines died – even their god was crashed to the floor Where are the human rights in a war between men? WWI mustard gas – line up all the men women and children of Jericho and kill them allD" How do you find the time to praise God and enjoy his creation – if you are afraid to live?R" Dave we are entering the last days of earth time.How do you find the time to praise God and enjoy his creation – if you are afraid to live?D"Show me your scripture – do not take a vaccineR" this verse"Re 13:16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: {to receive: Gr. to give them} 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Shira law – Islam – Allah and all the ‘other gods’ of the savantRe 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. {abundance: or, power} 4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. OIL – Middle Eastern Oil is the wine the whole world id drunk on and is fighting over Hope my computer doesn't failAre you setting up your exit – no one here will believe in your satan god so you leave - Student
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Post by Dillon on Sept 12, 2021 14:05:58 GMT -5
R" Dave if I went to Parkes NSW Australia, and asked them to photo the sea of tranquility at just the right moments, they would refuse .... why is that? You tell me?
With an annual cost of $30.8 million and 574 nights available for observing, the cost of one observing night on a Keck telescope is $53.7 thousand dollars.
Perhaps you should walk in there with your checkbook and reserve a night like everyone else. The wait the 8 months to a year for your night to come and hope like hell it is a clear night. 60K a night rain or shine, see something or see nothing it all cost the same. Put your money where your mouth is.
If they had ab optical telescope there you would discover that the telescope is unable to focus on something so close. But there is no optical telescope at The Parkes Observatory. It is a radio telescope. All you would see are radio signals on a paper print out.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2021 14:37:54 GMT -5
D" What about 6,6,6,6,6 - again great math – just not a bulls eye
Robert – you have no idea of what you speak!R" First Dave, the assumptions when using the Standard Deviation test. www.itl.nist.gov/div898/handbook/mpc/section5/mpc541.htm#:~:text=The%20calculation%20of%20the%20standard%20deviation%20is%20based,equally%20likely%20for%20the%20particular%20source%20of%20uncertainty. This gives more than I was taught at Uni. 1) The distribution of data must follow a bell curve. 2) As long as the variance exists, the standard deviation also exists. The standard deviation is the square root of the variance. Some applications "For example, in a stock with a mean price of $45 and a standard deviation of $5, it can be assumed with 95% certainty the next closing price remains between $35 and $55. However, price plummets or spikes outside of this range 5% of the time. A stock with high volatility generally has a high standard deviation, while the deviation of a stable blue-chip stock is usually fairly low. So what can we determine from this? The smaller the standard deviation, the less risky an investment will be, dollar-for-dollar. On the other hand, the larger the variance and standard deviation, the more volatile a security. While investors can assume price remains within two standard deviations of the mean 95% of the time, this can still be a very large range. As with anything else, the greater the number of possible outcomes, the greater the risk of choosing the wrong one." R" OK I am corrected. 2 SD does covers 95% of the variance. while 3SD covers 99% of variance. D" What about 3,3,3,3,3, my mean = 3 my SD = 0 R" If there is no variance, the SD does not measure anything. D" Amazing Robert – did you really go to college? – you have no idea of what you speak!R" Yes, my SD is a little rusty, you are right 2 SD does cover 95% of the variance. When I did things at uni, I used a 3SD calculation for my variance about the mean. You use a 2SD for your pathology variance days. My apologies to you on this. Question: Should you get variance from a PCR test, if the primer is targeting specified RNA information? I get what you are saying, the test process has flaws and so makes variance during the testing process. Is this a valid testing process than? To say a person is 95% confident that they are negative or positive for COV19? This requires the test is repeated say 10 times for each swab that is collected? DO they do this testing? Or is the testing done only once per swab? RP" SOunds more like graphene oxide cutting your blood vessels up.D" Just conspiracy fear talk – I’ll stick to the factsR" Are you saying that graphene oxide is not used as a adjuvant? I have read that's it's OK to add dangerous adjuvants so the immune system is alerted to act on the invasion, but it this a good idea? SO the use of mercury and aluminium for example as adjuvants. Research is also done with graphene oxide as an adjuvant to vaccines, is a fact from my reading of peer view journals? D" Because of the focal length of their telescope – DUH Your understand of the world around you is seriously lacking! NASA used a orbiting lunar satellite that they maneuvered to within 13 miles of the surface to take those images
R" I note Dillon post about Parks Radio telescope is correct. I thought they also had an optical one as well?? Anglo-Australian Telescope (Siding Spring Observatory) is optical. R" Couldn't the Hubble take an image, say at long shadow lengths, to get some shadows from vehicles left up there. Also track patterns in the ground? The Hubble space telescope would also take good images, but NASA also refuses. Japan sent up a rocket camera in 1996, to moon to take images, no mention of their results? D" Where are the human rights in a war between men?R" I thought the world have rules for things used in war? So all bets are off are they? So it's OK to torture a USA prisoner of war, like that Australian a few years back? D" Are you setting up your exit – no one here will believe in your satan god so you leave - StudentR" What's this Dave? Are you saying I am lying to you? My lenovo computer plays up time to time, it's second hand, and yesterday froze and died. Lucky for me it's back again. But you assume I am planning my exit from this forum, boy you have nerve. D" no one here will believe in your satan god so you leave R" Is that all this forum is about Dave? Mocking and more mocking? I will not hold any grudges about you, you are welcome to your theories. You can read your boader tanak any way you like, as I read my limited tanak. You ignore the Ezekial prophet message in both tanaks because it does not support your view. Your broader tanak overwhelms Ezekiel with other ideas. But that is your right to follow your theory of faith. I have a different theory of faith. I do not mock you or belittle you. I thought you set up a forum to ponder confusion, but NO, only your confusion is allowed, not anybody else with a different view. Shalom And yes my computer decides not to play up right now...lucky for me...
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