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Post by Dave on Jul 23, 2021 10:17:53 GMT -5
As with Flu vaccine – the argument against / the fear against / the propaganda against is a distraction To keep us away from – the only argument that matters Title 50 of the US Code – you cannot experiment on me without my consent!(google) Are there any Covid vaccines approved in the US? Currently, no coronavirus vaccine is fully approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, but three were given emergency use authorization by the agency. Why are they not approved – lack of animal studies Therefore the general population becomes the initial animal study Because it is an experiment drug/vaccine – the manufacturer is void of liabilityBUT - Title 50 of the US Code – you cannot experiment on me without my consent!Flu vaccine clinical trials were completed in 1994 – each year the flue vaccine is new and different – each year they are granted a waver for additional clinical trials because each year the flue is an emergency – no time for proper testing Fact – the government is pushing a narrative – vaccine good – need vaccine – protect the populous Fact – Flu and Covid vaccines are EXPERIMENTAL Fact - Title 50 of the US Code – you cannot experiment on me without my consent! Vaccine Bill of Rightsamericasfrontlinedoctors.org/take-action/vaccine-bill-of-rights-house-resolution/HOUSE RESOLUTION URGING STATES TO IMMEDIATELY ENACT A VACCINE BILL OF RIGHTS A HOUSE RESOLUTION stating that the governments of the respective states shall protect their citizens against unconstitutional and medically irresponsible COVID-19 vaccine mandates. Whereas no COVID vaccine is fully FDA-approved but rather authorized under a temporary Emergency Use Authorization as experimental (investigational) agents only; and Whereas emergency use products are specifically prohibited by federal law 21 U.S.C. §360bbb-3 from being mandated: “Authorization for medical products for use in emergencies … require …the option to accept or refuse administration of the product”; and Whereas the CDC Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) affirmed in August 2020 that under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), experimental vaccines are not allowed to be mandatory; and Whereas it is neither feasible nor safe to mandate experimental vaccination given the large number of COVID-19 recovered patients in the general population and the FDA/Pfizer/Johnson&Johnson/Moderna protocols which excluded COVID-19 recovered patients; and Whereas it is neither feasible nor safe to administer experimental vaccines to many groups of patients, such as persons with post-natural infections, waning titers, allergic reactions, as well as childbearing women, etc.; and Whereas public and private measures are nonetheless being considered to mandate experimental vaccinations in order to participate in certain public activities and functions of daily American life, including but not limited to: employment, in-person school attendance, public transportation, and concert performances; and Whereas administration of the experimental COVID-19 vaccines according to guidelines established by the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices do not provide adequate protections for average Americans concerned about potential health hazards associated with the inoculations; and Whereas the public is entitled to receive unbiased, transparent, easily accessible medical information related to all vaccines from their public health officials; and Whereas the doctors and nurses administering the inoculation are required by law to give informed consent and they cannot do they if they themselves are not informed; and Whereas that the major principles of this Vaccine Bill of Rights will include a minimum of five (5) of the following seven (7) provisions: No persons will be mandated, coerced, forced or pressured to take an experimental or “investigational” medication. All persons reserve the right, at all times, to determine what is in their own best medical interest without threat to their livelihood, schooling, or freedom of movement.No physician or nurse shall be asked by an employer to promote a COVID-19 vaccine. All healthcare providers must attest that they are aware of the VAERS database and their professional obligation to check it regularly and share information about VAERS with each vaccine recipient. All persons will be informed of the specific vaccine they are receiving. All persons must be given access to independent information to help them determine what is in their own best medical interest, including the risk of death based upon age/condition from contracting the virus naturally. This must include information from sources that are independent of a conflict of interest. For example, pharmaceutical companies have an inherent conflict of interest, as do government or quasi-government institutions. Such information can be included but cannot be the sole source of information. The frail elderly are additionally entitled to a knowledgeable, independent advocate with medical training to help them determine their own medical interest. Whereas technical guidance for employers released by the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) in December 2020 should not be understood to undermine employee constitutional rights laid out herein; and Whereas K-12 vaccinations cannot be required without certain clear and consistent exemptions applied, among them medical and conscience clauses, or risk forfeiting a district’s or school board’s authority to authorize such a mandate, nor can a vaccine mandate for these populations be a factor in federal and state school-aid funding; and Therefore, be it resolved that the House of Representatives memorializes a COVID-19 Vaccine Bill of Rights for the purposes of defending the constitutional liberties of its citizens, promoting sound science, and outlining a framework of best practices for state authorities and federal regulators to develop in this evolving phase of experimental vaccine administration and implementation. Be it further resolved that copies of this resolution be sent to the President of the United States, the United States Senate, the Federal Aviation Administration, the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, the U.S. Department of Labor, and the U.S. Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. Fake News – anti-establishment news – conspiracy news – misinformation what is a credible source of health information ?America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS) stands up for every American looking for the best quality healthcare by empowering doctors working on the front lines of our nation’s most pressing healthcare challenges. We help to amplify the voices of concerned physicians and patients nationwide to combat those who push political and economic agendas at the expense of science and quality healthcare solutions. ALFDS is a nationwide network of member-physicians providing independent, evidence-based information to help all Americans make informed decisions about their healthcare needs. AFLDS is not affiliated with any organization calling for a ban on COVID-19 vaccines nor do we support such a prohibition. We support additional research and full transparency with regard to vaccines and oppose the mandatory administration of vaccines that have not been fully approved after exhaustive clinical research. Freedom of choice in healthcare and physician independence are critical to protecting individual rights and quality healthcare. AFLDS believes that vaccines should be available to any eligible member of the public who wants them. AFLDS member-physicians have received inoculations and continue to advise patients on receiving vaccinations for a variety of illnesses. Video presentation about covid and experimental vaccinesamericasfrontlinedoctors.org/covid19/vaccines/also available on RUMBLE - rumble.com/embed/vah4o3/?pub=46:50 in tell me a lie and I will doubt everything the follows 23:00 Experimental Vaccines – only approved for emergency use as an experimental vaccines for liability issues The public is the experimental animal study 25:40 – no animal studies = The public is the experimental animal study 30:20 – again with the liability Or read their presentation at: americasfrontlinedoctors.org/files/americas-frontline-doctors-white-paper-on-experimental-vaccines-for-covid-19/
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Post by Deleted on Jul 23, 2021 16:23:31 GMT -5
Greetings Dave
Thanks for the share. Much appreciated.
This quote says it all
"No persons will be mandated, coerced, forced or pressured to take an experimental or “investigational” medication. All persons reserve the right, at all times, to determine what is in their own best medical interest without threat to their livelihood, schooling, or freedom of movement"
SO why is Australia turning into a penal colony?
They are treating all the citizens badly into locked downs, and thousands are lining up to get this experimental vaccine, many are coerced, forced or pressured to take an experimental or “investigational” medication.
I listened to a lawyer reading the BicSecurity Act 2015, that nobody can be coerced, forced or pressured to take an experimental or “investigational” medication, unless a BioSecurity Control Order is judged unto that individual by a magistrate in a court of law.
This is NOT happening.
Soon in September the army is going to knock on the doors of every Australian to coerced, forced or pressured to take an experimental or “investigational” medication upon them, which violates the Biosecurity Act 2015.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jul 24, 2021 6:44:08 GMT -5
This quote says it all "No persons will be mandated, coerced, forced or pressured to take an experimental or “investigational” medication. All persons reserve the right, at all times, to determine what is in their own best medical interest without threat to their livelihood, schooling, or freedom of movement" SO why is Australia turning into a penal colony?1- The people of America have a voice in GovernmentIf you watched the video – I hope you did – there are the facts Did you sign the petition?Are going to buy the drugs – we have 2- If you want to argue vaccines – you will only sound stupid trying to argue the science The only argument that matters is the lawI listened to a lawyer reading the BicSecurity Act 2015, that nobody can be coerced, forced or pressured to take an experimental or “investigational” medication, unless a BioSecurity Control Order is judged unto that individual by a magistrate in a court of law.3- These vaccines could become FULLY APPROVED after clinical trials are completed – the general Public 4- In America Laws trickle down from the top The Fed or the State cannot mandate the vaccine – they can only suggest or recommend But – the locally owned Mom and Pop store has the right to mandate mask, or vaccines And we have the right to work there or shop there or not Local communities or school districts could make mandates about participation or attendance And we have the right to move or Home School – or Charter School If you watched the video – the fear is the airlines like Quantas will mandate that stupid vaccine passport. If they do travel will be restricted – but that is their goal If you watched the video – he survival rate is 95% or better Does it take the frail and weak – YES – so does the flu – so do other things as complications Should the frail be vaccinated – the immediate benefits might outweigh the risk of long term hart But with it all – it should always be a personal choice within a Free Society that values individual rights They are treating all the citizens badly into locked downs, and thousands are lining up to get this experimental vaccine, many are coerced, forced or pressured to take an experimental or “investigational” medication.Lock Downs – Question does the elected government have a responsibility to keep it population safe from harm – Answer – Absolutely YES Question – is their some question that this was an engineered bio-terrorist weapon? Answer – YES Question – does the government have any duty to protecy its population from a potential terrorist weapon? Answer – Absolutely Question – why does this make government the bad guy? thousands are lining up to get this experimental vaccine,Voluntarily giving their IMPLIED CONSENT many are coerced, forced or pressured Soon in September the army is going to knock on the doors of every Australian to coerced, forced or pressured How? – I tried to find a reference for this – all I could find is the mandate for health care workersAustralian Government Department of Healthwww.health.gov.au/initiatives-and-programs/covid-19-vaccines/is-it-true/is-it-true-are-covid-19-vaccines-mandatory-in-australiaVaccination for COVID-19 is voluntary – as are all vaccinations in Australia – and people maintain the option to choose. Mandatory COVID-19 vaccination for residential aged care workersFrom 17 September 2021, COVID-19 vaccination will be mandatory for all residential aged care workers. Residential aged care workers will be required to have received a minimum first dose of a COVID-19 vaccine by this time. It will be a condition of working in a residential aged care facility through shared state, territory and Commonwealth authorities and compliance measures. This is based on advice from the medical experts, the Australian Health Protection Principal Committee (AHPPC) and was agreed by the National Cabinet on 28 June 2021. Even this mandate is voluntary – unless these workers are slaves or indentured servants that cannot quit their job and leaveDon’t people in Australia understand how a public forum works My wife’s employer – said – looks like we may have to mandate the vaccine 45 of 110 employees never came back to work Strapped for Staff – the vaccine suddenly became voluntary Now they have a Covid wing and those who are willing to vaccinate work there However – they mandate that all staff come 15 min early to be tested before work My wife just thinks its 15min easy over-time In America, the enconomy is deliberately depressed for the 18-25 age group But we are really proud of are all volenteer Army that employs the same age group - Hmmm? Almost One-Third of US Troops Are Refusing COVID Vaccines ...https://www.military.com › daily-news › 2021/02/17 Feb 17, 2021 — A U.S. Marine receives his first dose of the COVID-19 vaccine. ... Smaller Military Pay Raise, Increased Parental Leave Included in Senate's ... How Military Personnel Are Rejecting the Coronavirus ...https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics Feb 27, 2021 — About one-third of the troops have declined to take the vaccine. Many say they worry the vaccines are unsafe or were developed too quickly. You need to stop listening to outlets of missinformation I have honestly never met anyone like you No moon landings - satalites cannot see anything - and there is no such thing as Principalities, shedim, or other gods - they are all made up stuff you say
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Post by Dave on Jul 24, 2021 12:11:24 GMT -5
Even this mandate is voluntary – unless these workers are slaves or indentured servants that cannot quit their job and leave
Slavery – whose your real master – this is the question isn’t it World or Spirit – you can only have one OR Who cares –
Mar 12:17 Then Yeshua said to them, “Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”… Mat 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
Some see this passage as a call to be health nuts – to keep and preserve the Temple of God Rom 12:1 I urge you therefore, brothers and sisters, by the mercies of God, to present your bodies as a living sacrifice—holy, acceptable to God—which is your spiritual service. Rom 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the will of God—what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Keep me healthy and alive as long as possible – but Jesus also says Joh 15:12 “This is My commandment, that you love one another just as I have loved you. Joh 15:13 No one has greater love than this: that he lay down his life for his friends.
And scripture reminds us Rom 8:6 For the mindset of the flesh is death, but the mindset of the Ruach is life and shalom. Rom 8:8 So those who are in the flesh cannot please God. Gal 5:17 For the flesh sets its desire against the Ruach, but the Ruach sets its desire against the flesh—for these are in opposition to one another, so that you cannot do what you want. Rom 7:18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me—that is, in my flesh.
Slavery – whose your real master – this is the question isn’t it World or Spirit – you can only have one
Lock Downs Question – does the government has a duty to stave off calamity – health calamity – a safety calamity – or a financial calamity? Answer – YES – the attempt to maintain growth and prosperity is their function
Let’s Talk Australia – The closest “Western Country” to China Therefore because of the previous years of Free Trade under Bretton-Woods and an open market Australia does a lot of business with China – Coal – Iron Ore - Beef
(google) Is Australia economically dependent on China? Although dwarfed by exports from iron ore, Australia has become a major source of gas, wool, wine, beef and seafood over the past decade and a half. China's largest sources for Australia's main exports in 2018 and 2019, measured in USD.
(google) How much of the Australian economy relies on China? China is Australia's largest trading partner, with two-way trade reaching a record $252bn in 2019 and accounting for 27.4% of Australia's trade with the world.
All of this changed overnight! If Australia all went back to work – up to 1/3rd of your export industry would be jobless And behind the scenes many new trade deals are in the works – with India and Japan It would be nice if there were jobs to go back to after the lock down is lifted
Pretend for a moment that we are at war with China or Russia Pretend for a moment that we are at war against a rouge state – North Korea / Iran Or Judeo-Christian West is at war against the non-Judeo-Christian East with its own god(s) – the other gods – the gods of the 99% All of it real – denial does not make it – just made up stuff All of it = man vrs man All of it = inspired / driven / manipulated by RELIGION All of it = the work of Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, (Archon / Principalities / shedim / other gods of the 99%) And you say = all of it is – just made up stuff
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2021 15:05:01 GMT -5
Hmm? Nice read Dave, thanks. But you mention we have to become versed in the LAW. And I agree. Let's begin with LAW common to both of us, from which these commandments come from. The United Nations. The Biosecurity Act 2015 gets it powers from the UN. The UN declared this pandemic a global threat to mankind. How is this achieved in the LAW, and what processes did the UN do to declare this pandemic? Which by the way doesn't exist? And if the UN is corrupt, which body keeps the UN in check, from which global powers flow? These are my two big questions for for, and these answers also affect the USA as well, for all countries around the world are impacted by the UN decisions. A general overview of the complex operations of the UN is here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_response_to_the_COVID-19_pandemicI read " On 14 April, he warned of "a dangerous epidemic of misinformation" during "the most challenging crisis we have faced since the Second World War", Isn't that funny, the second world war, wasn't a global war at all, but a money making exercise, funded by the rich merchants of the world. Jas 5:5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you. How am I not surprised by statements like these... I read" 22 April: On International Mother Earth Day, the UN Secretary flags the COVID-19 pandemic as "an unprecedented wake-up call" and offers six ways to help the climate.[27] What on earth is International Mother Earth Day? On Earth Day 2016, the landmark Paris Agreement was signed by the United States, the United Kingdom, China, and 120 other countries. This signing satisfied a key requirement for the entry into force of the historic draft climate protection treaty adopted by consensus of the 195 nations present at the 2015 United Nations Climate Change Conference in Paris. Hmm? on a related issue, seems like something is being labelled differently, as Earth Day. John McConnell[145] first introduced the idea of a global holiday called "Earth Day" at the 1969 UNESCO Conference on the Environment. The first Earth Day proclamation was issued by San Francisco Mayor Joseph Alioto on March 21, 1970. Celebrations were held in various cities, such as San Francisco and in Davis, California with a multi-day street party. What are the UN planning with this idea of Earth Day, a global holiday? At the moment of the equinox, it is traditional to observe Earth Day by ringing the Japanese Peace Bell, which was donated by Japan to the United Nations.[148] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_misinformationI read the UN also fights against COVID-19_misinformation. What is that? Way too much information, clash knowledge with knowledge, so the layperson is sick of reading too much stuff. In fact the whole UN thing is extremely complex, obviously for a reason. Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jul 24, 2021 17:15:48 GMT -5
The UN declared this pandemic a global threat to mankind. How is this achieved in the LAW, and what processes did the UN do to declare this pandemic? Which by the way doesn't exist? And if the UN is corrupt, which body keeps the UN in check, from which global powers flow? These are my two big questions for for, and these answers also affect the USA as well, for all countries around the world are impacted by the UN decisions The power comes from men. All the UN can do is suggest. The decision is man's Just as the archon cannot force you to sin - all they do is suggest and temptAND YOU AND I COME FULL CIRCLE00:35 - - obvious conclusion – This world is controlled by very few people behind the people behind the people we think are in power. 28:10 – just outside visible light – there are ENTITIES that are anything but human that have been manipulating this world from the outside for eons. 29:15 – these entities go by different names – some people call them the serpent race, some people call them demonic, Islam calls them Jinn – Names don’t matter they are all the same entities - archonPlease watch this video – I gain strength from it as a Gnostic Christian You will never hear a better secular explanation of why the unseen world is real and alive. If the unseen world is real and alive, then each of us must consider if that means scripture, which describes David Ike’s (my) cosmology is valid in any way. Once that door is open, whatever you do with that knowledge is up to you. Hopefully, if any of scripture is valid, then you will consider that more of it is as well, and now you are on your own personal journey, you have begun to Seek. My prayer is that you find Christ along the way. Christendom has morphed true theology into its own self-serving and Rome-centered mythology. The end result of Reformed Protestantism is a fractured and bankrupt church (small c). All of the different influences on us educate us to a reality that is anything but scriptural. All these different influences drag us away from the church, and unfortunately, the faith. Gnostic Cosmology demands that all of creation points to The Creator I use this video to witness to the non-believer. David Ike covers so much ground that it speaks truth to most people somewhere along the way. This guy sounds just like me! Or I sound like Him. I started my journey in 1974, has led me on a life of research, which has led me to a very obvious conclusion. There are entities just outside my field of vision, that are anything but human, that have been manipulating this reality from the outside for eons. As you watch, Ponder that everything he says here is all about the Archon – His recurring theme, you are at a fork in the road. Wake up to a larger reality and the road to freedom (Christ), or remain trapped within the system. 6:10 Bloodline families 7:00 – 16:45-ish is all about culling the population through - Vaccines – after working 28 yrs in medicine, I don’t disagree with anything he says – but, I now see an updated version In my version of this video I edited straight to 25:5013:26 The Archon treat us like cattle – no empathy 13:49 – two types of Mass Mind Manipulation 16:59 – how the Archon are infused into society 20:56 – the targeting of Family Units 23:50 – eugenics 25:15 - Archon manipulative breeding of the population At the end of his age – only Noah remained pure25:50 – only presenting information – it either rings true or not Gen 6 27:20 – Human perception and the reality of the Archon’s presence Describing the veil of Luke 16 28:08 – Multidimensionalism 28:12 – The Archon, Nephilim, and Rephiem infiltrating society 29:27 – The Serpent Race, Demonic (Archon), Jinn 30:30 – Sacrifices to other gods youtu.be/QiOgwMC-fAYDoes the Archon feed off of human energy? The Koran suggests that the Jinn grow stronger through your fear. Bloodline families – Deep State 32:15 – ‘unseen entities’ – Archon He answers the most amazing question 32:12 – The goal of the Archon The Hypostasis of the ArchonsArchon "threw human beings into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their human beings might be occupied by worldly affairs and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit."33:30 – Prison 33:50 – The mass hypnosis of humanity Programming of humanity36:20 – media’s programming 37:00 – education’s programming 38:25 – why are certain people selected to be influential 39:80- sperm bank? 40:40 – Christendom42:15 – the level of control the Archon have over the world 43:20 – the human Mind 43:46 – science – 3 dimensional holographic reality within a larger reality We are spirit trapped within Mind-Body – some call it the our SoulHow do we wake up to the larger reality? – Through Jesus Christ and the ‘awakening’ through the Holy Spirit. Why couldn’t I see it before?47:08 – we are at a fork in the road – spiritual reality – or remain trapped in the system of Archon We are eternal consciousness having a physical souljorn This revelation transforms our perspective and the way we look at things vrs the ‘Cradle to Grave Programming’ of the system of the Beast, the dragon, That Chief Archon and his staff When I shared David Ike’s video with you – you said you could see no theology in it(google) 13 families that rule the world About 216,000,000 results (0.58 seconds) 13 Powerful Families In The World That Apparently Control ...https://www.indiatimes.com › culture › Who We Are Feb 2, 2021 — This is an article on a conspiracy theory about the 13 families that apparently control everything and who happened to literally control the ... The 13 Satanic Bloodlines: Paving the Road to Hell: The End ...https://www.amazon.com › Satanic-Bloodlines-Individu... The 13 Satanic Bloodlines: Paving the Road to Hell: The End of Individual Choice is at Hand - Worldwide Evil and Misery - The Antichrist - Salvation [de ... Bloodlines of Illuminati - CIAhttps://www.cia.gov › library › abbottabad-compoundPDF written in general about the families, which was also 200 plus pages as Book #2. Volume two will explain how the Illuminati control the world, and what some ... Steven V. Roberts - 13 Families - YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com › watch Aug 17, 2012 — Peace and Justice StudiesGuest Lecturer Steven V. RobertsTitle: 13 Families. 13 Families - YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com › watch Oct 17, 2011 — ArcLight Documentary Film Festival. "Like" your favorite trailer - the 10 with the most "likes" get accepted into the festival! 13 satanic bloodlines - SlideSharehttps://www.slideshare.net › hxmhxm › 13-satanic-bloo... 13 SATANIC BLOODLINES OF THE ILLUMINATI THAT RULE THE WORLD ROCKEFELLER ROTHSCHILD KENNEDY ASTOR BUNDY COLLINS DuPONT FREEMAN LI ONASSIS Reynolds RU… GOVERNMENT: Thirteen Families - TIMEhttp://content.time.com › time › magazine › article In 1937 a lumbering, leftish ex-newspaperman named Ferdinand Lundberg decided to give form to his favorite gripe: big, fat capitalists and their de facto ... A9 TV Global - The Crown Council of 13 Among the groups ...https://www.facebook.com › posts › the-crown-council-... The 13-step pyramid on the dollar bill is the organizational diagram of these powers that wish to rule the world. The Illuminati decided to use this mark as a ... Finally Exposed: The 13 Families That Are Secretly Ruling ...https://www.pinterest.com › pin - nikolateslafans Resources and Information. What is the continuing plan for the world domination and control and who makes it? This 13 illuminati families ... 13 Bloodlines of The Illuminatihttps://www.bibliotecapleyades.net › bloodlines who controls the two major U.S. political parties. how the Rothschilds invented and control modern-day Israel. who secretly founded false religions such as the ... 00:35 - - obvious conclusion – This world is controlled by very few people behind the people behind the people we think are in power. 28:10 – just outside visible light – there are ENTITIES that are anything but human that have been manipulating this world from the outside for eons. 29:15 – these entities go by different names – some people call them the serpent race, some people call them demonic, Islam calls them Jinn – Names don’t matter they are all the same entities - archonWho use the 13 families to manipulates this WORLD - who are genetically linked to their invidible spiritual mastersThis can have nothing to do with Hebrew Satan - who is an angel and Robert makes it very clear angels cannot procreateThis has everything to do with the Rephilem – which are post flood genetic offspring of the pre-Flood Nephilim which are the offspring of then bane elohiym – the offspring of the Beast, the Great Red Dragon, The Chief Archon, The First Archon, the Dragon of Rev 12:3[/b] Rev 12:3 is physical creation with its entropy waiting to consume – or the first sentient creature made with some matter and only expressed (yester ra) – what you now call R" Cows are under natural laws of instinct, yet subject to RA, Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down—the ancient serpent, called the devil and satanas (G4567), who deceives the whole world. He was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him. Rev 20:2 … the dragon—the ancient serpent, who is the devil and satanas (G4567)— G4567 - Σατανᾶς - Of Chaldee origin The archon have always been the rules of earth – physical creationThe Great Red Dragon, the devil, and satanas are not – just made up stuffJust because Adam and Eve – or Abraham – or Israel are lucky enough to become God’s Chosen 1% Does not mean that all of the 99% is just made up stuff You deny the reality of Gen 6 and Gen 8 You deny all the spiritual warfare of the ahl – you say all the the spiritual battels between gods is just made up stuff You deny the spiritual reality of the Rephiem and the 7 tribes of Amorite You even deny the words of Paul - Principlaities and powers in heavenly places And today – you deny the archon working behind the scenes of this world to manipulate humanity AND YOU AND I COME FULL CIRCLE
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2021 16:41:10 GMT -5
You have copied and pasted the same response. Please refer to my earlier post.
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Post by Dave on Jul 25, 2021 17:59:32 GMT -5
Why don’t you just answer the questions before youYES – I understand“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”(Edmund Burke –or- philosopher John Stuart Mill) But am confused byAbout 5,360,000 results (0.54 seconds) Bipartisan Christian group forms super PAC to ... - AP Newshttps://apnews.com › article › election-2020- Political Action Committees of the New Christian Right - JSTORhttps://www.jstor.org › stable Bipartisan Christian Group Forms Super PAC To Oppose ...https://www.npr.org › 2020/10/15 › bipartisan-christian-g... Christian Coalition of America William Penn – the founder of the American Quaker movement said, “Why would any man devoted to serving his Lord have time for public office!” 10 years later he was the Governor of Pennsylvania Jesus told the rich man – go and sell it all if you want to follow me Jesus said – go witness – take no money – don’t even take two shirts Jesus said – seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven Jesus said – flesh is just flesh – but spirit is spirit (Jhn 3) YES – Confusing – where do we draw the line between WORLD and spiritI know you – I also know where you are in life – so I ask, where do we draw the line Some take the call to take of the TEMPLE of the Lord – to become vegan health freaks – Mormons, no coffee, no tea, no cigarettes, no silk underwire, no dancing Amish – plain clothes, no electricity, no cars, no TV, no card playing Some take the call – to escape the WORLD and join a Monastery and become a Monk My friend Richard’s moto is that we are all called differently – there is nothing wrong with that It takes a Jew, a Christian, and a Muslim to make the world go round I know this is a personal protest – and I know you enjoy it – and spend as much time with it as most men spend with any hobby I enjoy the information – a challenge to make one think is always a positive and educational I do not disagree – the attack upon humanity comes in many forms The greater the population the more complex the society becomes – this is just obvious as we all march toward a time when the BEAST will make us work all day for our supper and control how we buy and sell Even with - the correlation of multiple data – the question remains[/quote] YET – as a parent with responsibility – I have asked you where to draw that lineMat 19:21 Yeshua said to him, “If you wish to be perfect, go, sell what you own, and give to the poor; and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.” Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving, for he had much property. Mat 19:23 Then Yeshua said to His disciples, “Amen, I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Children and family are not property – they are the father’s responsibilityPsa 127:3 Behold, children are a heritage of Adonai—the fruit of the womb is a reward. Psa 127:4 As arrows in the hand of a mighty man, so are the children of one’s youth. Psa 127:5 Happy is the man whose quiver is full of them. Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in every respect, for this is pleasing to the Lord. Col 3:21 Fathers, do not provoke your children, so they will not become discouraged. Deu 6:6 These words, which I am commanding you today, are to be on your heart. Deu 6:7 You are to teach them diligently to your children, and speak of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down and when you rise up. YES – agreed – the pursuit of wealth is an empty wealth YET – as a parent with responsibility – I have asked you where to draw that line Question - as a Christian just how much time shoud we devote to fearmongering against the system / government / vaccines / mandates / or lock downs Question - why don't monks ever sponsor a political movement? Answer - any time spent on the WORLD is a distraction Question - if you are going to argue against the WORLD - what works better fact driven public opinion - or caonseracy that may or may not be true? Answer - it all depends if you choose to be informed and taken seriously You told me that in September - the military was going to come to your house to force you to vaccinateI asked for documentation - is it the truth - ot just Robert Academic Honesty
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Post by Dillon on Jul 26, 2021 3:52:52 GMT -5
Parenting in the Torah The Torah includes numerous mitzvot regarding parent-child interaction. Fathers must circumcise sons on their eighth day of life (Genesis 17:10-14). Parents may not sacrifice their children, neither to a foreign deity (Leviticus 20:1) nor to God. Incest is strictly forbidden (Leviticus 18:6-7). Parents are responsible for educating their children (Deuteronomy 11:19). First-born sons must be redeemed from the priesthood (Exodus 13:2,13). Insults to parents are subject to grave punishment (Leviticus 20:9).
Scripture does not include material things, housing, clothing, or even food Why did Lot offer up his daughters to be gang raped? Even Abraham kicked his own son out into the wilderness with nothing Doesn’t sound very Christian does it? Hard question, where do we draw the line between dedicating everything to the lord and being a parent in the 21st century. Give Caesar his due? I gave my son. Isn’t that enough. No one here is getting vaccinated. Jill's team also did not vaccinate. One of her bosses and one of her clients died from covid, but I am not sure if they were old or frail. I'll ask.
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Post by Dave on Jul 26, 2021 9:11:35 GMT -5
Why did Lot offer up his daughters to be gang raped? Even Abraham kicked his own son out into the wilderness with nothing Doesn’t sound very Christian does it?
This is my question – we are called to leave it all behind – even children All we are required to do is teach them honestly about Christ
Yet, if we left them behind our society today would punish us as parents – the church would not think you a good father and the rumors would fly – in our “Christian” society we would appear un-Christian. Taking the vow as a Nazarite is a Jewish phenomenon. Men will dedicate a year to the Lord forsaking career, job, family, friends, children , and do not cut their beards or hair – but only serve the Temple and the Lord.
The entire concept of becoming a Catholic Nun is Jewish Jdg 11:30 Then Jephthah vowed a vow to Adonai and said, “If You will indeed give the children of Ammon into my hand, Jdg 11:31 then it will be that whatever comes out of the doors of my house to meet me when I return safely from the children of Ammon, it will be Adonai’s, and I will offer it up as a burnt offering.” Jdg 11:36 “My father, you have opened your mouth to Adonai,” she said to him. “Do to me what proceeded from your mouth—since Adonai brought vengeance on your enemies, the children of Ammon.” Jdg 11:37 She said further to her father, “Let this thing be done for me. Let me be alone two months, so that I may go on the mountains and mourn my virginity, I and my companions.” Jdg 11:38 “Go!” he said. So he sent her away for two months. So she left, she and her companions, and mourned on the mountains because of her virginity. Jdg 11:39 Then at the end of two months she returned to her father, who did with her according to his vow he had made—so she was never intimate with a man. So it became a custom in Israel,
Who takes the vow of "Celibacy" = Catholic Nuns - and then later Catholic Priest
But according to Robert – this passage might be error the Sons of Ammon are just made up stuff
(google) Who are the sons of Ammon? Ammonite, any member of an ancient Semitic people whose principal city was Rabbath Ammon, in Palestine. The “sons of Ammon” were in perennial, though sporadic, conflict with the Israelites. After a long period of seminomadic existence, the Ammonites established a kingdom north of Moab in the 13th century bc.
(wiki) Milcom and Molech are named in the Hebrew Bible as the gods of Ammon. The people of this kingdom are called "Children of Ammon" or "Ammonites".
They are Phillistines with their archon Goliath and archon 'othergod' Molech - who King Solomon calls Beelzeebub wo fathers the shedim - who was placed into the Kabal by Mohammond and Allah is declaired the supreme ruler over Molech, Beelzeebub and today they are the Palistinians of the Gaza Strip.
But according to Robert – just made up stuff - He cannot see any theology in it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 4:55:16 GMT -5
"But according to Robert – this passage might be error the Sons of Ammon are just made up stuff
Don't be too hard on me Dave, I don't know everything.
Like you and Dillon, we all have hard questions and we all ponder the confusion, a great motto for your forum.
If GOD is perfect, and all TOV, than I have this expectation of me, to be like GOD, but I am found missing, with fallen DNA and I live in a world full of poisons, so God's grace abounds around us. We can only do the best we can.
What is Paul's advice for the rules and standards of healthy living?
Ro 12:1 ¶ I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service.
Ro 14:1 ¶ Him that is weak in the faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations.
Good advice
Ro 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.
Good advice
Ro 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
References to the ceremonial sabbaths, the other holidays to the Lord.
Ro 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
A sobering thought
Ro 14:16 Let not then your good be evil spoken of:
Nice principle here
Ro 15:2 Let every one of us please his neighbour for his good to edification.
Also good advice
Ro 15:14 also to admonish one another.
Great advice.
Ro 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God;
These things are lacking today...?
Ro 15:32 That I may come unto you with joy by the will of God, and may with you be refreshed.
I am refreshed, our discussions are helping us read the torah teachings, and we grow seeds of Jesus in our minds.
Ro 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen. Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jul 27, 2021 5:33:44 GMT -5
"But according to Robert – this passage might be error the Sons of Ammon are just made up stuff Don't be too hard on me Dave, I don't know everything.
Amazing – you have a website to preach to the world – yet you refuse to answer simple questions. Just how much of the ahl is dedicated to Israel’s struggle against other gods or nations who worshiped other gods – 60% / 75% - AND YOU CLAIM IT IS JUST MADE UP STUFF
On the one hand you preach – and even argue – scripture is infallible But you consider most of the ahl to be myth – just a big Catholic myth
The Jews spent 3000 years facing off against other people and their other gods AND TO MAKE MY POINT CLEAR – HITLER WAS A CATHOLIC Jews and their God – vrs - Hitler and his god
Catholic Church apologises for Aborigines' "stolen generation"https://www.irishtimes.com › news › catholic-church-ap... THE Catholic Church in Australia has apologised for its part in an assimilation ... to a national inquiry into the forced removal of mixed race Aborigines. Missing: ordained | Must include: ordained
Australia's Churches Call On Nation to Acknowledge 'Stolen ...https://www.christianitytoday.com › 6-4-16.0.html The removal by the federal authorities, with the co-operation of churches, of many Aboriginal children—now known as the "stolen generations"—from their ...
The Catholic Church's toll on Aboriginal Australia - Eureka Streethttps://www.eurekastreet.com.au › article › the-catholic-... Jun 25, 2013 — And today there is a vibrant body of Australian Aboriginal Catholics ... Church in the late 1930s in an effort to prevent the destruction of ...
Your Catholic god of tov only!
What is Paul's advice for the rules and standards of healthy living? Ro 15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God; These things are lacking today...?
So – you deny miracles and gifts of the spirit? Now you need you clarify just how much of the agl is myth
AND AGAIN – NO ANSWER FROM ROBERT Where do we draw the line? You said once – You do the things you have to do to live the life you choose What does – leave it all behind and follow Christ – have to do with solar batteries, or owning a home? What part of – Give Caesar his due – suggest a public protest about anything?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2021 14:40:59 GMT -5
D"AND AGAIN – NO ANSWER FROM ROBERT Where do we draw the line? You said once – You do the things you have to do to live the life you choose What does – leave it all behind and follow Christ – have to do with solar batteries, or owning a home? What part of – Give Caesar his due – suggest a public protest about anything?
R" Sorry Dave, not sure of what you are asking.
Scripture calls us out of the cities. You are already doing that. I admire that in you, a prepper like me.
Have a great day
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Post by Dave on Jul 28, 2021 8:04:37 GMT -5
D"AND AGAIN – NO ANSWER FROM ROBERT Where do we draw the line? You said once – You do the things you have to do to live the life you choose What does – leave it all behind and follow Christ – have to do with solar batteries, or owning a home? What part of – Give Caesar his due – suggest a public protest about anything? R" Sorry Dave, not sure of what you are asking. You keep saying you want to discuss practicing your faith But when asked you claim you don’t understand?1- What does – leave it all behind and follow Christ – have to do with solar batteries, or owning a home? 2- What part of – Give Caesar his due – suggest a public protest about anything? As in protesting against Caesar (government) – or advocating disobedience / non-compliance / resistance 3- Make it easy for you Every anti-vaccine argument is built around it is poisonous to your health – might even be a global conspiracy to cull the herd Protect you life - don't take the poison - live healthy - live long - stay alive - protect the biology - self-preservation Mat 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Luk 12:4 “I say to you, My friends, you should not be afraid of those who kill the body, since after this they have nothing more they can do. If you are a Christian thrown to the lions What witness will you leave the audience - you were afraid for your life - you fought hard to stay alive - and you died kicking and screaming all the way Or would you lay your life down as a witness for God When Rome cornered the Cathars and tried to burn them at the stake The Cathars jumped into the fire willingly - freaking out all the Roman soldiers All through history the Jews have been pushed around – denied property – forced segregation – even during the time of Hitler – where was the Jewish Protest? But as a Christian we need to form a militia – oxymoron Christian militia SO – Christian – what is the Christian thing to do Resist – fight back – spend a lot of time worrying about it – get organized – protest Or line up as sheeple? Luk 12:5 But I will show you whom you should fear. Fear the One who, after the killing, has authority to cast into Gehenna. Yes, I tell you, fear this One! After the killingHeb 9:27 And just as it is appointed for men to die once, and after this judgment, After the killing – there is someone who – can cast you to Gahenna – or notAnother Judeo-Christian principle you and your church deny Judeo-Christians identify this as the prosecutor – keeping the unworthy out of heaven Sending the unworthy to Gehenna – which is a specific locality within the shoel (grave – the unseen world) / just as Tartarus is a locality within hades (the unseen world) A place of proportional punishment
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Post by Dave on Jul 28, 2021 8:40:18 GMT -5
Why can’t you comment on the lock downs as a citizen of Australia All I hear from you is resentment that Government is forcing – a stagnation of the economy
Question – 1- everything I read says that before Covid a full 3rd of your economy was China dependent Therefore – as of today – a full 3rd of your economy is seriously depressed because of the China issue 2- everything I read says – 50% of that 2/3rds of your economy that is not China dependent – is China integrated – example – Australia could not mass produce hand sanitizer because the plastic bottles came from China 3- because of China – the Australian economy is a mess – stagnated – in realignment 4- India has never imported your barley (I think – old news story) because Australian barley did not meet their standards – Last year India deliberately changed its standards to save the Australian barley industry 5- During this stagnation period of economic realignment – Australia had stimulus money – just as all countries suffering from this China supply chain realignment 6- What is the focus of the lockdowns – to limit the spread of the virus to the elderly the only risk group that matters – Australia’s position on this is the best in the world
So my question to you is – should your government just stand back and allow so many people to lose their jobs at the same time the elderly are dying from this virus
Why is your government your enemy in this?
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