Fearless

[bowenhandsus]

The son of the bondwoman is in bondage as long as some thought, thing or person is necessary; and this very condition constitutes humanhood. The new covenant and the "new creature" begins in the moment when we realize that " I and the Father are One" and "all that the Father has is mine." One must look to no other direction than Infinite Spirit which reason cannot fathom. The transition into divine sonship begins with faith in that which cannot be reasoned or sensed. Abraham must leave his servants at the base of the Mountain.



There must exist a faith without a reason for said faith. Becoming a fool as far as this world is concerned. This faith must be understood by an all consuming inner conviction which is in complete agreement with that which cannot be reasoned. This is as a wife submits to a man in coitus - this is the mystic marriage of the Soul and Spirit.



The son of this union is Grace. We can see now the true meaning of the Holy Grail. It is not some bloodline or other such traditions as Dan Brown and others propound. Rather it can only be found within each and every one. The Kingdom is within you. And you must find that Grail. It is encrypted in the English.



M - The two pillars of Judgement and Mercy - the feminine



A - The Father - masculine



Honor thy Father and thy Mother takes on a whole new meaning. We all have but one Father/Mother.



N - the joinder of two triangles - the Son or new State in Being. The upper trinity and the lower trinity join along a common line.



If you drink from the Grail you may reach out your hand and partake from the tree of Lives. Some external cup is idolatry and confusion.



"Signs FOLLOW those who believe" as "there shall no sign be given". IF we are given or find any thought, image or likeness then we are in idolatry. See how BROWN and others are the pied pipers leading many into Adultery and Idolatry? For our objective mind will rest upon said thought, image or likeness. And again this is confusion and idolatry which is Adultery. When we learn to lean not upon our own understandings, then what thought can we rely upon? Upon what process will we base our foundation? Upon what nail will we hang our life? What then shall we base our hope?



We shall base it upon Trust. And so the serpents of this world will say how then will you trust upon that which you cannot envision or sense, is this not foolishness? Let me be the fool. For the serpents are the Devils of this realm - the Lawyers which control based upon their Titles [Surnames]. See now this game was before time in the Garden. The Devil's Advocates have been plying their trade for millenia. For they say "come put your trust under our shadow" but they are liars one and all. They said "His blood be on our hands" - that's right. They know the truth but they themselves will not enter in BECAUSE of their lust for power and money [Mammon]. Luke 11:52.


We cannot know God, think God, feel God - we must Trust in that which cannot be perceived in any way. Except that our whole world mirrors the work of the Creator. Go to the beach. Is not the ocean as consciousness and does not the wind [Spirit] blow harder the closer one gets to the shoreline? Is not this analogous in man in regard to awareness? Where can be found the well spring of energy? Show me if you can. I must pick up my cross of self renunciation and where then can be found the ego? In the Sabbath of rest is the Way found. Not keeping some day that is idolatry! But in the Silence - be still and know I AM. Saturday, Sunday, Moon's these are all Idolatry in regards to the Truth regarding Sabbath.



What then of the good? Is not good subjective? Ask a citizen of a socialist state what is good. Compare that of a citizen in a capitalist state? What then of good? Is it not in the eye of the beholder? What then? Should it be good or should we focus on Truth? I say, forget the good and focus on what is True. And what now can any man [no gender] say about what is true? Seeing now how pitiful is man's knowledge, it is made plain that mankind knows very little about what is good or true.



Yet, why does man forge on in self will knowing man knows almost nothing? Ignorance!! Man chooses to "till the ground" and earn his living by the sweat of his brow. But it does not have to be so. He may choose at any time to return to the Garden of Eden and enter upon rest. Living not by what is sensed but by what is. God is and how then shall I judge? Is not my adversary my brother who is being used to anoint my head? Is not the sweet fragrance of the flower enhanced upon the crushing of its petals? Therefore embrace death and life shall be found!



A paradox to be sure. Yet, in the tribulation [fire] is found the anointing. And once anointed, then comes the Spirit. There is but One Power, One Law, One Substance, One Cause. Why then respond to fear, doubt or anything seen or heard? Would that not be as one who seeks to take the Kingdom of God by force? See how the lying lawyers have cast a spell over the mass? I wonder what can awaken sleeping beauty? For man who seeks self will seeks power, control, etc. Is this not as a dog returning to its vomit? Ownership is an illusion of choice which binds one in bondage. Law therefore is for the Lawless. Lawyers ply their trade upon those who don't keep the Law. Get it now? Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's property. What now of Ceasar's Title - Surname? And what of the lying pen of the serpent



Moving past that trap, one may enter into the Silence of I AM and surrender as a woman surrenders to a man in sexual union. The ignorant trample the outer court indeed it can be said that few men know about the beauty of the woman's body. Therefore confusion abounds and she goes into old age because she has no man to release her 3rd water behind the veil. How then can she anoint his head with oil? As without so within - the Soul must submit to the Spirit.



Now are the two pillars better understood. There is nothing of physical substance that can give eternal life. Nothing! Anything purporting to do so is of the Magi-cians and refers to [the] vain I-Magi-Nation. These are shadows on the wall. Plato's Cave. Loose thyself. Stand up and turn around to see the wizards playing you at every turn. Put down the unclean thing and "Be still and know that I AM."



A wise preacher once said "eat what you can and put the rest on the shelf." Let the wise consider "the children of the King are free and need not any Code, Ordinance or otherwise." Is it Determinism or do we have Free Will? Think on that one - but I promise you in the end you will find that effort to be a waste of time. There exists a third path.





Shalom,



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[Dave]

The son of the bondwoman is in bondage as long as some thought, thing or person is necessary; and this very condition constitutes humanhood. The new covenant and the "new creature" begins in the moment when we realize that " I and the Father are One" and "all that the Father has is mine." One must look to no other direction than Infinite Spirit which reason cannot fathom. The transition into divine sonship begins with faith in that which cannot be reasoned or sensed. Abraham must leave his servants at the base of the Mountain.

Since we have spoken last – the term faith has taken a beating on this forum
Faith is an ambiguous word that means something different for everyone

I have been a student of Jewish First Century Christianity – the original Messianic Judaism
They divide Christians intro 3 categories
1- believers – this is a large group that think they believe –
But beliefs can change over time – or even fade

Faith – is a belief that is long held with conviction
Yes – this group is saved – of course

2- However – there are spiritual Christians – those Born Again in Spirit – those who don’t believe but know
Paul hated Christ in the am – wisked away into heaven for a face to face – and by pm became the biggest Apostle of the NT

Those touched directly by the spirit – The prophets of the OT – Abraham – David – Jonah - Moses
And many more I am sure – a Personal Relationship – spirit to spirit
These guys didn’t just believe – they knew (gnosis) – FACT – not hope or a promise but 100% real

Rom 8:16 The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God:

Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

For this reason – no one here would arrogantly mock those who claim – visions – out of body experiences – near death experiences - etc

3- the lost and the Pretenders – they say they believe to fit in

There must exist a faith without a reason for said faith. Becoming a fool as far as this world is concerned. This faith must be understood by an all consuming inner conviction which is in complete agreement with that which cannot be reasoned. This is as a wife submits to a man in coitus - this is the mystic marriage of the Soul and Spirit.

YES – Agree – it is all about spiritual – the soul
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

The Jews say – from God we came – and to God we return

Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you, and before you were born, I set you apart—I appointed you prophet to the nations.”

From God we came – to Jer 1:5 while we souljourn here – and to God we return for judgment

The son of this union is Grace. We can see now the true meaning of the Holy Grail. It is not some bloodline or other such traditions as Dan Brown and others propound. Rather it can only be found within each and every one. The Kingdom is within you. And you must find that Grail. It is encrypted in the English.

YES God’s grace is that he loves us even tho we are sinners
No one can fall from God’s Grace
and Abraham knew and kept God's Torah (Gen 26:5) before Moses ever wrote it

M - The two pillars of Judgement and Mercy - the feminine
A - The Father - masculine
Honor thy Father and thy Mother takes on a whole new meaning. We all have but one Father/Mother.

Agreed – the Jews say
the Right hand of God is instruction and salvation
The Left hand of God is a mystery and discipline

N - the joinder of two triangles - the Son or new State in Being. The upper trinity and the lower trinity join along a common line.
If you drink from the Grail you may reach out your hand and partake from the tree of Lives. Some external cup is idolatry and confusion.

Gospel of Phillip - The Nag Hammadi Library
"Flesh and blood shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Co 15:50). What is this which will not inherit? This which is on us. But what is this, too, which will inherit? It is that which belongs to Jesus and his blood. Because of this he said "He who shall not eat my flesh and drink my blood has not life in him" (Jn 6:53). What is it? His flesh is the word, and his blood is the Holy Spirit.

YES – the problem with Judaism – it that you cannot govern a free man
WORLD might want you to think you need the church – or a school priest to experience communion
All we need is that relationship with our Creator – in spirit – be not of this WORLD

The Gospel of Thomas - The Nag Hammadi Library
(53) His disciples said to him, "Is circumcision beneficial or not?"
He said to them, "If it were beneficial, their father would beget them already circumcised from their mother. Rather, the true circumcision in spirit has become completely profitable."

"Signs FOLLOW those who believe" as "there shall no sign be given". IF we are given or find any thought, image or likeness then we are in idolatry. See how BROWN and others are the pied pipers leading many into Adultery and Idolatry? For our objective mind will rest upon said thought, image or likeness. And again this is confusion and idolatry which is Adultery. When we learn to lean not upon our own understandings, then what thought can we rely upon? Upon what process will we base our foundation? Upon what nail will we hang our life? What then shall we base our hope?

Signs – most don’t recognizes them when they come around

No one knows better than a Jew – life is hard – and sometimes painful

Jas 1:2 Consider it all joy, my brethren, when you encounter various trials,
Jas 1:3 knowing that the testing of your faith produces endurance.
Jas 1:4 And let endurance have its perfect work, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

What a Jewish attitude
Job was a righteous guy minding his own business when it all went to hell
Sometimes little Jimmy dies of cancer at age 2

OH – I want to add – the harm caused by Roman Catholicism -= Western Roman Christendom
The Feel Good legacy of Romans 8:28
People come to church looking and are told Rom 8:28 – just check in tithe and all will be well
Yet – life is still hard – grandma still dies – the house still gets repossessed
And they leave – and empty message

OH – I want to add a passage from the Koran, Book of the Cow – I do offer it as scripture, but it message is on point

Some say they would believe if they could just see a sign – but those of us who believe see signs all around us.

How many doors had to open in the right sequence for both of us to find one another? Coincidences or many little miracles along the way – I guess it depends on your perspective - huh

We shall base it upon Trust. And so the serpents of this world will say how then will you trust upon that which you cannot envision or sense, is this not foolishness? Let me be the fool. For the serpents are the Devils of this realm - the Lawyers which control based upon their Titles [Surnames]. See now this game was before time in the Garden. The Devil's Advocates have been plying their trade for millenia. For they say "come put your trust under our shadow" but they are liars one and all. They said "His blood be on our hands" - that's right. They know the truth but they themselves will not enter in BECAUSE of their lust for power and money [Mammon]. Luke 11:52.

Serpents of this world – YES absolutely
Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers,
Archon – Principalities – Jewish Shedim and Beelzebub

We cannot know God, think God, feel God - we must Trust in that which cannot be perceived in any way. Except that our whole world mirrors the work of the Creator. Go to the beach. Is not the ocean as consciousness and does not the wind [Spirit] blow harder the closer one gets to the shoreline? Is not this analogous in man in regard to awareness? Where can be found the well spring of energy? Show me if you can. I must pick up my cross of self renunciation and where then can be found the ego? In the Sabbath of rest is the Way found. Not keeping some day that is idolatry! But in the Silence - be still and know I AM. Saturday, Sunday, Moon's these are all Idolatry in regards to the Truth regarding Sabbath.

our whole world mirrors the work of the Creator - Agree
Rom 1:19 because what can be known about God is plain to them—for God has shown it to them.
Rom 1:20 His invisible attributes—His eternal power and His divine nature—have been clearly seen ever since the creation of the world, being understood through the things that have been made. So people are without excuse—

Psa 19:2 The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky shows His handiwork.

You know me and my quantum physics talk

What then of the good? Is not good subjective? Ask a citizen of a socialist state what is good. Compare that of a citizen in a capitalist state? What then of good? Is it not in the eye of the beholder?

YES! YES! YES! – My revelation came with The Serenity Prayer – I must have heard it 10 million times

God, give me grace to accept with serenity the things that cannot be changed,
Courage to change the things which should be changed,
and the Wisdom to distinguish the one from the other.

But it wasn’t until I began studying with a Rabbi did I ever know the rest of the prayer

Living one day at a time, Enjoying one moment at a time,
Accepting hardship as a pathway to peace, Taking, as Jesus did,
This sinful world as it is, Not as I would have it,

Trusting that You will make all things right, If I surrender to Your will,
So that I may be reasonably happy in this life,
And supremely happy with You forever in the next.
(Reinhold Niebuhr – 1932)

Yet, why does man forge on in self will knowing man knows almost nothing? Ignorance!! Man chooses to "till the ground" and earn his living by the sweat of his brow. But it does not have to be so.

Hmmmm? I will take issue with this sentence as it stands alone (away from the rest of the paragraph)
Gen 3 – man is under the curse of mortality – we wake upon each day as a mortal and continue under the curse of mortality

He may choose at any time to return to the Garden of Eden and enter upon rest. Living not by what is sensed but by what is. God is and how then shall I judge?

Not by what is sensed – but what is
Is the universe just a hologram? At the very base of our cold hard reality – it is made of tiny little clouds of E and are not even measurable as matter – but best described matamatically

Cathar Gnostics – saw physical reality as the corruption vrs the incorruptible spiritual heavens

The Treatise on the Resurrection - The Nag Hammadi Library
Let no one doubt concerning this. [...]. indeed, the visible members which are dead shall not be saved, for (only) the living members which exist within them would arise.

What, then, is the resurrection? It is always the disclosure of those who have risen. For if you remember reading in the Gospel that Elijah appeared and Moses with him, do not think the resurrection is an illusion. It is no illusion, but it is truth! Indeed, it is more fitting to say the world is an illusion, rather than the resurrection which has come into being through our Lord the Savior, Jesus Christ.

But what am I telling you now? Those who are living shall die. How do they live in an illusion? The rich have become poor, and the kings have been overthrown

Is not my adversary my brother who is being used to anoint my head?
YES YES YES –
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, (visible ARCHON)

(invisible ARCHON) against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

These are shadows on the wall. Plato's Cave. Loose thyself. Stand up and turn around to see the wizards playing you at every turn. Put down the unclean thing and "Be still and know that I AM."

These are creatures of this WORLD – it is their domain / their kingdom – and they were here first
Rev 12:1 The HS is birthing creation
Rev 12:3 - The Great Red Dragon appeared with 10 horn and 7 crowns waiting to devour
Rev 12:5 – the Son of salvation

Gen 1:1 – creation
Gen 1:2 – darkness (choshek)
Gen 1:3 – the Light of Salvation

Gen chpt 1 – creation
Gen chpt 2 – man + law
Gen chpt 3 – Gen 3:15 promise of salvation (the seed of Eve that crushed the heel)

God is and how then shall I judge? – or be Judged
A paradox to be sure. Yet, in the tribulation [fire] is found the anointing

For me the The Jewish concept of this paradox= the struggle between (yester ra) and (Yester tov)
Explain – all biology / animal comes with a programmed (hardwired) INSTINCT for self-preservation
All animal comes with SELF – selfish greedy self-centered SELF (yester ra)
Are bacteria evil and are out to get you – NO – they just do what they do for self-preservation
Are cows evil – NO – they just do what they do
All driven by INSTINCTIVE (yester ra)

Man was created on Day 1 along with all of the host of heavens – as invisible spirit beings – as independent souls – existing in a location termed the ‘Well of Souls’ (Jewish – non-scripture)
Gnostics call this man – Adamus the Perfect Race of man

Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

God gave all of us this commission / assignment / mission – this is our purpose – the meaning of life

God knew us personally / we knew God – and when the spirit is mated with the fetus – the spirit man/soul remembers God and our commission – this is (yester tov)

In Judaism
Angels are (yester tov) because they are in God’s presence – they praise and serve
Animals are (yester ra) – instinct driven ‘dumb’ animals
Man = ((yester tov)+ (yester ra)) – therefore man is the only creature that can choose = Free Will

Man = ((yester tov – spirit/soul) + (yester ra – animal)
If a bacteria kills you (yester ra) – does it have conscious to bother him with guilt?
If a cow tramples your garden (yester ra) – does it have a conscious that will haunt him with guilt?
But man? ((yester tov /spirit/soul – knows better) + (yester ra – animal /that don’t care)
Man = (yester tov – soul – that remembers God – and already knows the Torah) + (animal yester ra)

We come into this world from God – souljourn here – then we return to God
From God we came and to God we return

We are spiritual creature having a physical experience
As without so within - the Soul must submit to the Spirit.

Jewish Judgment
This is going to sound strange to a Christian – but they keep score
Mitzvah (anytime you obey – God - or the law / written or unwritten) vrs Chata (disobedience / sin)
No one has a perfectly Good score – or absolute Bad score
Therefore – Proportional Punishment – each according his own sin

This purification process takes about a year
Jews sit shiva for 7 days – the worst of it – our prayers are supposed to help ease the departed
Then they say kadish for 11 months – which are additional daily prayers for the departed
Then their souls end up in the Bosom of Abraham
and at any time - a Divine Pardon (Zec 3)

OR – the Talmudic Jews who say grave – sleep – nothingness
But they also sit shiva and say the kadish – Curious

Christianity – each according to his due
Judged by Deeds, Works, and Fruit
Deeds – even in the jungle little boys are nice to grandma
Works – efforts to fellowship (ie church work – getting out the message – your witness)
Fruit – other souljourners that you have helped remember who they are - spiritual creatures having a physical experience – with the commission to witness God’s Glory to all the nations
and at any time - a Divine Pardon (Zec 3) - Salavtion (John 3:16)

Ownership is an illusion of choice which binds one in bondage.
I hear ya brother – where you place your treasure = your attention is focused – Agreed
yet here I am a father – and part of my judgment is on how well I did that job too. As a father I am charge to care for my children – food, shelter clothing

Moving past that trap – Hmmm?
You know me – and my life style –
Robert from this forum coined the phrase – I do what I have to do – to live the life I choose

While I am still mortal, with scriptural obligations, to the next generation – it is very hard to completely escape – the system / the Beast / The WORLD

Give unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's property. What now of Ceasar's Title - Surname? And what of the lying pen of the serpent
Well for me – I am back to Eph 6:12 – our real struggle – principalities (Archon) and the invisible powers that control them – creatures of this WORLD

Judaism does not have this Catholic Fallen Angel thing with a satan god of evil
Eph 6:12 – our real struggle – principalities (Archon) and the invisible powers that control them – creatures of this WORLD

These bad guys – were never more than ants at a picnic
YES – there is some possessions – but overall they are just Baboons in the forest
Baboons just do what they do – they are not evil – they are just animal (yester ra)
Lock man in a cage with them – over time they will change from peaceful fascination to a vicious murder

The Jewish Version
King Solomon wrote of Beelzebub and his offspring shedim – Lillith
Just obstacles/hindrances that plague man

The NT Version
Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created—in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen, whether thrones or angelic powers or rulers or authorities. All was created through Him and for Him.
Created by God for God

Our real struggle
Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the worldly forces of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

The Gnostic Version – The Great Contest

Authoritative Teaching - The Nag Hammadi Library
And before anything came into being, it was the Father alone who existed, before the worlds that are in the heavens appeared, or the world that is on the earth, or principality, or authority, or the powers. [...] appear [...] and [...] And nothing came into being without his wish.

He, then, the Father, wishing to reveal his wealth and his glory, brought about this great contest in this world, wishing to make the contestants appear, and make all those who contend leave behind the things that had come into being, and despise them with a lofty, incomprehensible knowledge, and flee to the one who exists.

And (as for) those who contend with us, being adversaries who contend against us, we are to be victorious over their ignorance through our knowledge, since we have already known the Inscrutable One from whom we have come forth. We have nothing in this world, lest the authority of the world that has come into being should detain us in the world

But why does the souljourn here - our Contest here - so painful and unrewarding

The Exegesis on the Soul - The Nag Hammadi Library
For the beginning of salvation is repentance. Therefore (cf. Acts 13:24), "Before Christ`s appearance came John, preaching the baptism of repentance."

And repentance takes place in distress and grief. But the father is good and loves humanity, and he hears the soul that calls upon him and sends it the light of salvation. Therefore he said through the spirit to the prophet (cf. 1 Cl 8:3), "Say to the children of my people, 'If your sins extend from earth to heaven, and if they become red like scarlet and blacker than sackcloth, and if you return to me with all your soul and say to me 'my Father!', I will heed you as a holy people.'"

Again another place (Is 30:15), "Thus says the lord, the holy one of Israel: "If you return and sigh, then you will be saved and will know where you were when you trusted in what is empty."

Again he said in another place (Is 30:19-20), "Jerusalem wept much, saying, 'Have pity on me.' He will have pity on the sound of your weeping. And when he saw, he heeded you. And the lord will give you bread of affliction and water of oppression. From now on, those who deceive will not approach you again. Your eyes will see those who are deceiving you."

Therefore it is fitting to pray to God night and day, spreading out our hands towards him as do people sailing in the middle of the sea: they pray to God with all their heart without hypocrisy. For those who pray hypocritically deceive only themselves. Indeed, it is in order that he might know who is worthy of salvation that God examines the inward parts and searches the bottom of the heart. For no one is worthy of salvation who still loves the place of deception.


Death - Is not the sweet fragrance of the flower enhanced upon the crushing of its petals? Therefore embrace death and life shall be found!
Amazing – moving – love you

[Dave]

<bowenhandsus Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:57 AM
To: Me by personal email

The keys I direct you to this morning are pretty interesting, and found in Bible parable as well. Right off the bat David HUDSON discloses how the meteorite crater laced the soil in Arizona with Starfire. These are called ORME - Orbitally Rearranged Monatomic Elements. Especially when monatomic platinum metals are encased in the vacuum of the fullerene - metallofullerenes - one begins to understand how the configuration is between organic and inorganic. This is manna. This will form a coherent Meissner Field within the third ventricle of the brain as a tuner for the divine symphony.

Honestly – this just sounds like religious gobblity gook – blah blah blah

With that said I want to address the thread below. Maybe it is best to focus on "resident". This operates mental imagery that the commercial priests license as intellectual property of the bar.
Commercial priest – agreed – agents of the Roman State – to assist with population control
Same with three definitions for "United States" - only one of which matches up to the definition of United States of America. Fine tune with united States of America etc and it gets ridiculous how long you could play semantics with a trained attorney wearing a black robe.
Agreed – the WORLD is a convoluted maze of deception
The chaos is there to keep man sidetracked – keep man’s focus on/in the WORLD

The Hypostasis of the Archons - The Nag Hammadi Library
Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.

YES! – this is the function / the mission / the purpose of the archon
I am a Gnostic Christian remember – and the only difference is in choice of vocabulary
The Catholic Myth of Fallen Angels and Halloween – mixes together several different theological creatures all under one roof and evil satan is born.

Jewish satan of the ahl (Ancient Hebrew Language – which is a larger library than just the OT) is heavens prosecutor. A servant of the Lord, whose particular role / function / mission is that of the accuser. –

The NT comes along and tells us of the Great Red Dragon of Rev 12 - which is a plurality +10 horns and 7 crowns – and his Devil(s) – and they are also called a satan because the verb satan means to accuse / oppose – and suddenly Catholic Theology is all confuse as to who is who

Jun 29, 2021 17:18:34 GMT -5 Dave said:

Scripture tells me - the best defense against the enemy = to know your enemy - so you can recognise what is in your sight
Eph 6:11 Put on the full armor of God, so that you are able to stand against the schemes of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the worldly forces of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Eph 6:13 Therefore, take up the full armor of God, so that you may be able to resist when the times are evil, and after you have done everything, to stand firm.
Eph 6:14 Stand firm then! Buckle the belt of truth around your waist,
Principalities / Archon / King Solomon’s Beelzebub and shedim/ Shades
Rom_8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Eph_3:10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,
Col_1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Col_2:15 And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Tit_3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,
Principalities / Archon / King Solomon’s Beelzebub and shedim/ Shades are clarified in the non-NT writings of Paul, John, James, Peter, Thomas, and Philip – but Rome doesn’t want you to read that
Words of the agl authors - men that walked and talked with Jesus Christ both before and after the resurrection - words that Rome didn't like - that Rome tried to burn out of existence.
Words that Rome placed on their INDEX of writings you could be put to death for possessing
Eph 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers (principalities - archon), against the powers, against the worldly forces of this darkness, and against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.
Our real struggle - not one word about satan the god of evil

Where did our real struggle come from
Col 1:16 For by Him all things were created—in heaven and on earth, the seen and the unseen, whether thrones or angelic powers or rulers or authorities. All was created through Him and for Him.
All created by God – for God and not one word about satan the god of evil

Rev 12 says the Beast of revelation simply appeared as the HS was birthing creation – before the Son the rules
Gen 1 says God created the Heavens and the earth and choshek (Darkness) happened
Ezk 28 – says your cherub was walking and talking and enjoying God’s creation before he is cast down, after accumulating multiple sins
They do not coincide – they do not correlate – they do not support one another – they are in conflict, they are contradictory – but you do not care to understand the difference – just lump it altogether under the heading of Catholic Fallen Angels – regardless if it fits scripture or not

That last link is proof positive that the priests, by controlling the linguistics have kept us from the technology used to build the Pyramids.
Agreed – hiding the truth under a vail of Roman Mythology – that is reflected in the Western Roman Christendom Culture
Things like – darkness is evil – and one of the demons that wrestled with St Arasmuth was a black child – therefore the Black Race should be looked down upon
Things like – theology is only for men – and women should just submit to their husbands
Things like – you don’t need to read it – just let the church tell you what it says
Things like – you need the church and a priest – to be saved

My point is that running interference like sodium fluoride in drinking water to calcify the pineal gland will deafen us to the higher tuning and resonance we should be capable of.
To make the phenomenally lengthy saga short I would like to focus on Jim's assertions that the shit show can be avoided.
Dave will disagree with Jim – because in Gen 3 God cursed man to a life of toil
The only way out from under this curse – is to leave this mortal life – because the wages of sin are death
Even if you are Born Again – it changes you –not the WORLD around you

That is done with the true name signature. You are going to be a resident because the driver license is for residents. So why identify yourself as a resident under any other circumstances than where being a resident is to your profit or gain? Well, this is why Colorado's driver license with my photo on it is in the glove box. I do not identify myself as a resident unless it has to do with my agreement.
As best I recall the agreement is:
1. I have no suspended license in any other state
2. I do not lose consciousness unexpectedly
3. I will obey the laws of Colorado (or whatever state I am operating in by uniform laws of Congress)
Well, this is why Colorado's driver license with my photo on it is in the glove box. I do not identify myself as a resident unless it has to do with my agreement.
42-2-101(3), C.R.S. provides:
“No person shall drive any motor vehicle upon a highway in this state unless such person has in his or her immediate possession a current driver’s or minor driver’s license or an instruction permit issued by the department under this article.”
in his or her immediate possession = the glove box counts – you conformist

The key is that there are not two powers. The priests have made it seem that way creating a Devil in the minds of the mass. This again is witchcraft.
That is an important key indeed.
YES – The Roman Catholic Church in a Machiavellian attempt to control the masses
To rally the people under common cause – they need a common enemy to focus upon
The Church says – come to church or satan will get you
And once priest became agents of the Roman Empire – the church says – listen to Rome – it was a perfect arrangement for Emperor Constantine – to rule the population

Jim's point really then is where to draw distinctions. He prefers the Fourteenth Amendment and trust structures around Treasury restructure and nomenclature "United States". I prefer Section 16 of the Federal Reserve Act.
Lol,, we all know the DL (and all other government contracts) is a contract full of fraud, but why would anyone want to walk into THEIR system to ...What.....prove you know something and can "beat" the system?? There is remedy to avoid the whole damn shit show from the git go and that isn't worth examining??
OK Jim – Robert on this forum says he dedicates his life to the lord, yet is so worried about the COVID vaccine and all the secret conspiracies that mess with his Australian Government
My question to you both is

Rom 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the will of God—what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Mat 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
Mar 12:17 Then Yeshua said to them, “Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they were completely amazed at Him.

Isn’t FEAR of those that can kill the body – a conformation to the WORLD
Isn’t the very concept of a Christian Militia an Oxymoron
And how does anti-government conspiracies in protest against the WORLD as it is - conform with –
Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

YES – I understand
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
(Edmund Burke –or- philosopher John Stuart Mill)
But am confused by
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William Penn – the founder of the American Quaker movement said,
“Why would any man devoted to serving his Lord have time for public office!”
10 years later he was the Governor of Pennsylvania

Jesus told the rich man – go and sell it all if you want to follow me
Jesus said – go witness – take no money – don’t even take two shirts
Jesus said – seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven
Jesus said – flesh is just flesh – but spirit is spirit (Jhn 3)

YES – Confusing – where do we draw the line between WORLD and spirit

I know you – I also know where you are in life – so I ask, where do we draw the line
Some take the call to take of the TEMPLE of the Lord – to become vegan health freeks –
Mormons, no coffee, no tea, no cigarettes, no silk underwire, no dancing
Amish – plain clothes, no electricity, no cars, no TV, no card playing
Some take the call – to escape the WORLD and join a Monastery and become a Monk

Richard’s moto is that we are all called differently – there is nothing wrong with that
It takes a Jew, a Christian, and a Muslim to make the world go round

I know this is a personal protest – and I know you enjoy it – and spend as much time with it as most men spend with any hobby
I enjoy the information – a challenge to make one think is always a positive and educational
I do not disagree – the attack upon humanity comes in many forms
The greater the population the more complex the society becomes – this is just obvious as we all march toward a time when the BEAST will make us work all day for our supper and control how we buy and sell

I cannot get over the correlation of multiple data
The growth curve of any organism in a closed ecosystem

The growth curve of humanity

Humanity is already in the decline/death phase
AND – at the same time – Western Roman Christendom is poised for a Demographic Winter
There is a social collapse and readjustment looming in out near future. This is why no government is concerned about debt – no one is ever going to pay it – it must reset

AND – at the same time
1945 Nah Hammadi Library - which says it was hidden for the last generation
1947 Dead Sea Scrolls
1948 Israel becomes a Nation
And fishermen return to the Dead Sea in fulfillment of Ezk 47
Plus – Israel is in Military Control of all the Land between the Nile and Euphrates via the Abrahamic Accords
To counter this – Iran just signed a 25 yr Military alliance with China for oil
And the lines are drawn

AND – at the same time you speak of fiat money schemes and the rights of a freeman

To me – if just all paints a bigger picture – one way beyond my control
So then I am back to being pragmatic – the things I do to live the life I choose, Roberts says

I have examined it thoroughly and have spent a lot of time setting ignored in various concrete boxes shift after shift while deputies looked at me like a zoo animal. A curiosity. So you cannot convince me that your avoiding the shit show is worth the effort. If you persuade any other suitors I consider it a breach of integrity of the intelligence. I just factor it in though, that is all. I do not judge.
Ah – the curse of Gen 3 – Robert says – the things I have to do to live the life I choose

In processing a thread about vacccines and masks, something important came across my attention. The reason the migration of the NAV to the ovaries and bones was discovered in Japan is no accident. The people have weakened immune systems there because of Fukushima a decade ago.
Tell me about it – and it is still leaking at the same rake 10 yrs later
And all that radioactive water they had in storage tank was all dumped into the Pacific
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May 9, 2021 — Fear returns to Chernobyl. In reactor 4 of the nuclear power plant,
The worse case scenario at Chernobyl is that 13 tons of Uranium goo could chain react – explode
Hiroshima = 13 pounds of U235 – Chernobyl = 13 tons
Chernobyl is only one reactor – Fukashima is four reactors
Worst case scenario at Fukashima is the water table – if the radioactive goo melts is way down to the water table - it could cause a radioactive steam geyser that would fill our atmosphere with radioactivity / The China Syndrome

Again – all just pieces of that bigger picture – an oncoming social readjustment that will seem like a tribulation for all – the carnage of WWIII is nothing compared to NY City 30 days without power, water, or food.

Of course it is only kind for me to offer a solution. There may be no getting it out once inoculated but the new knock in is euphane lactone triterpines found naturally in the Sri Lankan plant. So please do not allow them to administer it mRNA. And the reason I have misspelled the above search word is that I think when I send out more than 100 emails with certain key words there is a prefix about canned ham added to the subject line.

Of course it is only kind for me to offer a solution – the solution is spiritual and nothing to do with the physical
Get some today: lantana camara Sri Lanka Plant wild red sage oil.jpg
Just seems like a physical addiction to aid your physical existence
There is nothing wrong with being healthy – but trusting in potions or elixirs just seems corporeal – things of this world – if God wants you – you will live – if God is done with you, you are on your own

When times get hard – remember – the only thing you need for healing
Is a sick patient and a Christ filled Christian
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So item 4 of the Lesson Plan:
I propound the following with the support of Scripture to relay how the "priests" set a snare for the people. Even in this late hour Hamen's gallows are being revealed and the "people of God" are being shown a way out and away from this system of control governed these days by covet means. Reference "A Century of the Self" by Adam Curtiss - Part I.
Hos 6:6 For I desired lovingkindness, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
Comment: It is man's great destiny to arise and judge his earth. When one looks at the words of Jesus we can see that He came to reveal the Father. What does that mean? It means that His life reflected the nature of the Father.
And that means that Judaism does not have it right. But before pride comes, neither does modern day Christianity.

Agreed – Judaism by itself is incomplete
The First Christians – Messianic Jews – was a short lived period in history – and why I study it so intensely
And Christianity was usurped by Roman Catholicism and perverted

Jesus revealed a loving Father who has given His children everything. Jesus shows that Father is not full of vengeance or hatred but is loving, patient and longsuffering = "neither do I condemn thee. Go forth and sin no more." It is our sin which it is the cause of the maladies of our life. God does not cause these ills. Rather until we arise and begin to judge ourselves, then we shall remain under the law of "we reap what we sow." This law is better known as the law of cause and effect or Karma.

I know you and your use of the word karma
However – karma is always under your control – you create your own karma
In reality God sometimes reaches down and uses anyone he wants to facilitate His Will

Again, it is Jesus who reveals the true Way of Being. As he always turns to Spirit in the stead of materialism. In doing so, Jesus rises above cause and effect and entered into Grace. And in entering into Grace, he saw the "face of God" or one can say the "Soul of God" in the eyes of humanity. And in seeing, Jesus realized that Law is a human convention. He did not forsake his humanity but he rose above Law into Grace escaping cause and effect by and thru Love.
And in seeing, Jesus realized that Law is a human convention.
YES – I have been preaching to Robert that it is the resurrection that matters – the post crucifixion appearance of Jesus Christ validates the afterlife and Jesus as the Messiah
Rom 5:12 So then, just as sin came into the world through one man and death through sin, in the same way death spread to all men because all sinned.
Rom 5:13 For up until the Torah, sin was in the world; but sin does not count as sin when there is no law.
What came into the WORLD when Eve took a bite – the LAW
And now that there is LAW – we have sin

Jesus redacted the ten commandments into one commandment. Love God with all you got.
OK – What does this mean to Dave - depends on how you see the meaning of life – why we are here – our purpose
Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you, and before you were born, I set you apart—I appointed you prophet to the nations.”
To love God with all your heart is to witness God’s Glory
A second Law was also espoused which is "do unto others as you would have done to yourself." This second law is actually a subset of the first great Law.
YES – what could be more important to me than to be witness to about God’s Glory
The Mind of separation or self determination which is to say the carnal objective mind is bound by five senses. This Mind is actually a false mind.
YES – mind = biology = instinctive SELF-preservation = (yester ra)
It has nothing to do with Spirit/Soul (yester tov) the part of us that knows better

Therefore it is correctly noted by the prophet of Salvation [Hosea] that God desires us to Love each other and to seek and find the knowledge of God which is to say the Nature of God expressed in Law,
To love God with all your heart is to witness God’s Glory - YES – what could be more important to me than to be witness to about God’s Glory

Hos 6:7 But they like Adam have rebelled [against] the covenant: there have they dealt treacherously against Me.
Comment: A covenant is a trust. The tenants have been let out the kingdom to work the fields and produce good fruit of the Spirit. Yet what do we see today? Do we see the nine fruits of the Spirit or do we see fear, greed, lust, etc. manifest in and upon the Earth? It is easy to point the finger, but we are the choosers. We must chose will it be the hog slop of this "covet means" world or will it be Spirit? Where can happiness be found always seeking more? Is it not in service to each other? Which is to say service to God?

All men are sinners because all men are animals – and animals come with instinctive SELF-preservation (yester ra)
Where can happiness be found always seeking more? Is it not in service to each other? Which is to say service to God?
YES – true satisfaction / happiness comes with doing your assignment / fulfilling your commission – witnessing God’s Glory – Jer 1:5

Can we now see that God never held us down? And we have always held the key. But in ignorance, we simply did not see it. Lives is the key word.
OH – I write about the de-evolution of man
Man was made immortal – then became mortal
Man was able to see into the heavens and see the music the angels sang – then he could only see as an animal
Man was allowed to live about 100 years - then cut short to 120
Man was a healthy vegan – then was allowed to unhealthy eat meat
God looked down upon man at Babble and said – if man can do this, he can do anything
Therefore as a proud father – God stopped it and confused the languages so man stopped working in common cause
Can we now see that God never held us down?
NO – I do not see that

Hos 6:9 And as troops of robbers wait for a man, so the company of priests murder in the way by consent: for they commit lewdness.
Comment: Notice the word COMPANY. It is as follows. But notice that the Legal system is sort of like a spell that a witch has cast. Well not "sort of" it is just that.
Commercial priest – agreed – agents of the Roman State – to assist with population control

Now I believe Jesus said something about priests placing burdens on the backs of man. Let's see if that dog will hunt:
Luk 11:46 And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
Comment: So we can see that a Trust was forged whereupon men were duped into entering by laying a stumbling block before them. Who laid the stumbling block? The Legal System!! Cause and Effect cannot be overcome except in Grace. Those who laid this block thought they could escape judgment due to Consent, but those who do not know they have a choice, have no choice. The Lawyers are the caulkers of the ship of State. These licensed liars [have you ever noticed how God hates liars] will indeed get hung on the same gallows they think themselves to be righteous in erecting.
Who laid the stumbling block? The Legal System!!
This is so refreshing – thanks – Robert has had me chasing evil demons for the last two years
What was the stumbling block – Gen 2:17 the Law
Even with only one Law to follow – man broke it


The key is that there are not two powers. The priests have made it seem that way creating a Devil in the minds of the mass. This again is witchcraft.
Jer 27:5 I have made the earth, the man and the beast that are upon the ground, by my great power and by my outstretched arm, and have given it unto whom it seemed meet unto me.
Deu 30:15 See, I have set before thee this day life and good, and death and evil;
YES! The stage is set by the Lord – His Will / His plan

Deu 30:16 In that I command thee this day to love the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, and to keep his commandments and his statutes and his judgments, that thou mayest live and multiply: and the LORD thy God shall bless thee in the land whither thou goest to possess it.
Deu 30:17 But if thine heart turn away, so that thou wilt not hear, but shalt be drawn away, and worship other gods, and serve them;
Comment: Who cannot say the foregoing is not true? We must choose. Will it be Mammon or Truth? Will it be burdens or Liberty. For Jesus said "my yoke is easy and my burden is light". Why? He paid the debt. Give up the Surname, there is no Debt. It's all been an illusion of pride.

‘other gods’ – non-God gods – false gods – come in several varieties
One fact that most Christians overlook is the cultural impact of God’s Chosen People
At the time – God’s Chosen people represented <0.0001% of the world’s population
For the sake of my argument – I just call them the 1% - God introduces Himself to the 1%
But that leaves the 99% - the entire rest of the planet – the 99% ignorant / lacking in direct contact – god-less (unidentified anyway – unknown) – In this vacuum – The remaining Nephilim (now called Rephiem) and their gods (Archons/ Principalities/Jinn/Shedim/Shades)

The 33 ‘other gods’ of the Lavant were all real – not fallen angels – not space gods – but archon / principalities / made by God for god
‘other gods’ = mammon – sure – anything that keep your focus away from seeking first the Kingdom of God – your career – your hobby – your health

The Hypostasis of the Archons - The Nag Hammadi Library
Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Have you taken up your great divinity? What do you call things? Do you believe that carbs are bad and that some virus can kill you? God gave man a plate - man fills it with his beliefs. BELIEF therefore is the key. What say ye? What do you call that which you perceive? Give Her the bill - the Great Whore. Let Her drink of her own cup. Let Her hang on Her own gallows. You are Hadassah, not Esther. Be the All Spice Tree of Lives.

This makes some more sense than most. But for Colorado, there is just not enough room and if you try writing anything legible that is different than what the clerk expects, they just tell you to change it or quit wasting time. Also, they wait to get you through this process before making you pay. So you have no recourse if they tell you to leave.

Rom 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the will of God—what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Mat 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
Mar 12:17 Then Yeshua said to them, “Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they were completely amazed at Him.

Isn’t FEAR of those that can kill the body – a conformation to the WORLD
What part of - Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s = a public protest

It however makes no sense to sign a contract, "No Contract." Or to sign it declaring fraud, because you are obviously agreeing to do business under fraudulent terms - which is illegal. Now, try to keep some perspective. You are going to be showing this signature to police officers and "judges" who are trained attorneys. The officers pretty much have attorneys on their Motorola, speed of light.
I agreed to the terms without full disclosure. I agreed to the terms because I was coerced through fear. contract is void?
Title 50 of the US Code says
The first time you use any government service (registering your car – collecting a benefit – participate in a government program like insurance) you give your implied consent

This is how the government frames its argument against
You cannot test or experiment on me without my written consent
YES – it is all a legal game to play
Yes it is all Caesar and 100% Beast

DO NOT ARREST - DO NOT DETAIN, Lifetime carry permit and International Driver's Permit! There are also other benefits that the website will tell you of.
YES – there are many strange exceptions – the granddaughter of a French diplomat cannot be charged with 1st degree murder – only deported

I don't know about other sites that talk about this but the way coppermoonshinestills.com teaches,,,, it works as advertised!!

I like that response to the "do you know why I pulled you over" Question but why worry about it when there IS a way out without any BS!
Again I ask -
What part of - Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s = a public protest
YES – it is all a legal game to play
Yes it is all Caesar and 100% Beast
And what does any of have to do with the salvation of the soul?

Speaking about Colorado:
You need two pieces of mail to get the license. I should have the photo of the requirement posted in the DoR but cannot find it. Since this is designed for attorneys by attorneys, so that you cannot have any driver license without being a resident that contract seals itself.
As a resident of Colorado -
I disagree with you because you overlook the bigger picture
If your drivers license can be used as a legal document – then the document needs to be accurate
Your state of NM – handed out Drivers License to anyone – many illegal immigrants
Who then used their NM Drivers license to apply for aid money to US Citizens
So Osama ben laden could come across your border with Mexico – get a drivers license in NM under a false name and move to Washing DC to collect welfare checks
If you think the citizens of America are good with this – you are wrong!

[Dave]

On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 11:56 AM <bowenhandsus > wrote:
I love this. I will have free time this weekend to look things over...Peace to you and yours my friend...

And the answer you offer is


Sorry buddy thus is a cop-out
People who are not willing to take a stand – will stand for anything

Jun 29, 2021 12:01:19 GMT -5 Dave said:

Again I ask -
What part of - Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s = a public protest
YES – it is all a legal game to play
Yes it is all Caesar and 100% Beast
And what does any of have to do with the salvation of the soul?

OK Jim – Robert on this forum says he dedicates his life to the lord, yet is so worried about the COVID vaccine and all the secret conspiracies that mess with his Australian Government
My question to you both is

Rom 12:2 Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, so that you may discern what is the will of God—what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Mat 10:28 And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who is able to destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.
Mar 12:17 Then Yeshua said to them, “Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.” And they were completely amazed at Him.

Isn’t FEAR of those that can kill the body – a conformation to the WORLD
Isn’t the very concept of a Christian Militia an Oxymoron
And how does anti-government conspiracies in protest against the WORLD as it is - conform with –
Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.”

YES – I understand
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
(Edmund Burke –or- philosopher John Stuart Mill)
But am confused by
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William Penn – the founder of the American Quaker movement said,
“Why would any man devoted to serving his Lord have time for public office!”
10 years later he was the Governor of Pennsylvania

Jesus told the rich man – go and sell it all if you want to follow me
Jesus said – go witness – take no money – don’t even take two shirts
Jesus said – seek ye first the Kingdom of Heaven
Jesus said – flesh is just flesh – but spirit is spirit (Jhn 3)

YES – Confusing – where do we draw the line between WORLD and spirit

I know you – I also know where you are in life – so I ask, where do we draw the line
Some take the call to take of the TEMPLE of the Lord – to become vegan health freaks –
Mormons, no coffee, no tea, no cigarettes, no silk underwire, no dancing
Amish – plain clothes, no electricity, no cars, no TV, no card playing
Some take the call – to escape the WORLD and join a Monastery and become a Monk

My friend Richard’s moto is that we are all called differently – there is nothing wrong with that
It takes a Jew, a Christian, and a Muslim to make the world go round

I know this is a personal protest – and I know you enjoy it – and spend as much time with it as most men spend with any hobby
I enjoy the information – a challenge to make one think is always a positive and educational
I do not disagree – the attack upon humanity comes in many forms
The greater the population the more complex the society becomes – this is just obvious as we all march toward a time when the BEAST will make us work all day for our supper and control how we buy and sell

Even with - the correlation of multiple data – the question remains

What part of - Give to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s = a public protest
YES – it is all a legal game to play - Yes it is all Caesar and 100% Beast
And what does any of have to do with the salvation of the soul?

[bowenhandsus]

Thu, Jul 8, 12:51 PM

Luke 17:21 “Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.”

Can you hear the music of the creation? You must be silent to hear as it is the space between the notes that creates the music!

We are the creation my friend if we were not, we would not experience anything, because without HIM there can be no "I am".
Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

[Dave]

Jul 9, 2021 16:35:03 GMT -5 @robertt said:

D - Anna Von Reith is a “Sovereign Freeman”
R - Can you add more details to her website? I have read dozens of her material to be sure,
She also has views on the archons? So if you dismiss her so easily, do you also dismiss the archons too?

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Anna Von Reitz - www.annavonreitz.com/
If you really are serious about knowing how to restore the Republic and your freedom you need to put some effort into knowing how our freedoms are being robbed from us by fraud, lack of full disclosure, deception, threat, duress, coercion, and intimidation every day of our lives and have been for over 100 years by the criminals who have hijacked our government, wealth, and heritage for their own gain and evil intentions.

You are probably not a US citizen! What does that mean for your taxes? Break free from the IRS right now.
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Is this a Christian message?
What part of – fight against your government – focus upon your corrupt government – and resist being governed is consistent with – Give Caesar his due and be not of this world but long for the next?

[bowenhandsus]

The only reason I send these to you because I hold you to the highest estem. Also that it speaks to my heart knowing that the very Language resonates with the creation. These are not my works and do not feel I am the one to contribute. The Author does stimulate one’s consciousness. My hopes to you that you enjoy the attachment too!



You probably gave me the attached paper and I did not have time at the time. But it cropped up in a search and I read it through on my pad. I found your writing below worthwhile and then some. I hope some suitors will give it a whirl.

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The Rose Philo-Sophie: reissued 11-July-2021

Principle: Man is law in action.
If the foregoing principle is not realized, then man is subject to a fictional world which is built in the same fractal and kept legal to the trust that formed it. In realization and redemption, man experiences The Word made Flesh. A living Word he becomes. Paul, the Operation of Truth, is that status in the kingdom. A citizen of the Heavenly Court. Proclaiming our Lord Jesus Christ in recognition that God is One.

I sought to find wealth because I thought wealth would bring happiness, but the more wealth I accumulated the greater the heartache because I had the responsibility of maintenance. I worked hard to maintain that which I had gained a temporary possession. So I considered the rich and the poor and questioned "who is happier?" By all outward expressions it seemed the rich were happier but then I noticed, even though the poor complained about their "bread and water", the poor had time for family. Time to go on walks, time to experience the barking dog, the chirping bird, the frolicking deer and the struggle of companionship. So then I had to reconsider is the rose sitting in the vase more beautiful than the one that is trampled in the mud?

And I have come to see that the one that is worn and weathered is real because it is touched daily by those who possess it. The other rose sits perfect in the vase watered and pruned by "hired help". Both possess The Rose but in the poor it is cherished, touched everyday and cared for by those who have little else to turn their attention. So then I thought again who is happier? And I see, as long as we seek thinking we need we can never be happy. The rich one fills the empty void with accolades and materialism; and, the poor man fills the void with struggle and hope. But both seek to find that which is already possessed.

Then I wondered who set the stumbling block before each of these? And can true happiness come to the seeker? Then it dawned on me, the answer is no. One must come to rest. The two must become one. Rest and Repose seem to be the constant oscillation of daily life. In duality is this not the tree of "good and bad"? Who will judge what is good or what is bad? And it is thereby which discontent rules in the heart of dissatisfaction.

Then I considered what then of volition? Can I exercise my will and remain happy? And I have really given this some hard thought. And the only answer I have arrived at is YES, but ONLY if I choose to serve others. The moment I choose to serve myself, I become a judge of what makes me happy and now I have fallen into duality. Because once I get what makes me happy, happiness runs away again. Yet, if I serve another, I can view the fruits of my labor in a smile, a laugh , a touch. These are the fruits of love.

Then I realized the poor are not happier. I judged that condition between two aspects of the same scale. In other words, I framed my philosophy in duality and therefore being double minded I led me astray. But in realization of my error I led captivity captive.

So then I considered the Devil and I realized that Selfishness is Satanism. And all sorts of demons rule in that realm. For thinking to obtain happiness, I selfishly sought to possess it. But it eluded me until I quit seeking and began serving. Then I saw I was happy when I saw joy expressed by others as a result of service. So then my joy is not my joy! My happiness is not my happiness. And then I had to see it is our joy, it is our happiness.

I only exercise my volition to use the talent granted to me by the Divine Grantor. Can I bury that talent in the Earth? Hardly. It makes me unhappy to throttle the talent granted into my care.

And yet sometimes I notice that when joy expressed from "my work" that "my ego" seized that joy as the fruit of "my labor". And then it dawned on me it is not "my" anything. Any work done is the ability to work as granted of God. Then a new paradigm expanded as a flowering fig within. It is not I that work but the Father in Me.....Sitting back and admiring the work is foolishness for the work could not happen unless it was granted unto Me to work. Getting a better view of Moses and Pharaoh it is clearer that Pharaoh is that great central ego.

So then I had to consider the sacred religions and I saw that it is joy to understand but happiness to serve my fellow brethren without the ties of religion that bind. Then I asked what of race, creed, economic status [essentially different estates]? And then I saw the stumbling block. And then it dawned on me, my labor is not for me! Any ability to labor is granted in me by God. Man is Law in action! So then I saw I can exercise my volition and be happy. For works are conditioned upon working for the Lord Jesus Christ. For now I labor to please God and Man. And now why should I be satisfied with "good enough" when I am blessed to create masterpieces for Us?

Then I asked "what is true religion" and I almost laughed when the answer came. True religion is to do all acts from love. I perceive that this foundation at first will take diligence, but I also perceive that with time and sustained volition, faith will begin to take a back seat to love. So then I reconsidered the poor and the rich and found both are miserable because both frame their existence in materialism which is selfishness. One will say how can the poor be selfish? But we can see that to hope for something else to bring happiness is folly. The ROSE must blossom within for then it is neither in the vase or in the mud but carried always in the hallowed place - the hidden place of the heart.

My intrepid sister do you see the symbol now of the two roses flanking infinity "M" - St. Stephen with his rose in and out of the garden he goes.....?

Then I considered Salvation and the Light came On. I considered again the persona Michael Joseph and saw it is an illusion. Who gave that name? Is not the grantee subject to the grantor? And is not the estate qualified? Then I saw it is my Ego which took the kingdom by force. And I am without ability to point a finger at anyone. Comes to mind: Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Playing all the roles am I the Fool become Wise. I looked outside my window and saw the military ruling in Marshall Law under Lieber Code and by the Law of Correspondences I see "as within so without."

But even more than that, I saw the identity "Michael Joseph" is used by me subject to the qualified grant which is also subject to the Military Occupation. Therefore "Michael Joseph" is a tool no better than a wrench. Then I had to laugh as I see I have been working on Pharaoh's car for crumbs while denying myself a car of my own. An identity is not Me. And Me, the central Ego is not the true Self. These are overlays over what is real. Fundamentally then the question begging to be answered is "Who am I?" But that question can't be answered until I know "What am I."

Identities are masks worn by actors who subject themselves to a grand play being governed by men in boots carrying guns. I heard a double minded one say that "gun violence" must be stopped. And I laughed at the presentation. As if a gun can grow legs walk out the front door and exercise volition. But then I thought if "guns are violent" then how will this violence be quelled? Then the answer sprang into mind "by men in costumes carrying guns!" So now is the absurdity perfected "gun violence" will resolve "gun violence" - and now is the duality of this double minded lunacy exposed. For the one who carries the gun has no hope of anything changing and therefore the "poor" cling to their guns as their last hope of protection against the wolves of this horrible drama.

Is not violence the fruit of the will exercised. Should we consider "knife" violence? What about "fist" violence? "Feet" violence? "Man" violence? Ah ha! The synthesis has been exposed! The politically inclined will do ANYTHING to point the attention of the mass AWAY from "Man" violence. The goal is to keep the mass occupied with frivolity so that noone will turn their eye upon themselves. So I considered the political Left and the political Right in the light of "Man" Violence. And I had to laugh - do not both go head first into the grave? Are not both a complete waste of time? But then, again how to fill the void remains the problem. Since Pharaoh has all the food - the middle men must prostitute themselves for Pharaoh's attention.

Then I saw that nothing will change until the heart changes. And I saw the reason for the Great Wars - a formula for Worldwide Military Control. I saw firemen/policemen wearing military rank; and, then I saw the civil governments sit at the pleasure of the occupying army subject to the head of that Army. And with that insight so much became obvious as to why and how the Law of the Sea has swept all Men off the land. But then I saw something more horrible - men were being paid as "bottom bitches" to do the dirty work of their overlords [middle men on the fence]. And then I was sure I had not left Egypt. But I could not point the finger at another, for Identity and Duality caused me to fall off the wall. All the king's horses and all the king's men have sought to rebuild me [in Pharaoh's image], but only I can rebuild me. I have played the pimp and the harlot; and therefore I cannot judge one actor from the other. Did not those 30 pieces of silver purchase the potter's field? Are not all broken?

Dan 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any God: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Dan 11:38 But in its place shall he honour the God of fortresses [on its pedestal]: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.

Dan 11:39 Thus shall he deal in the strongest fortresses with a strange god, whosoever acknowledgeth him he will increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for a price.

Just as the Central Ego sits in the throne room of the Mind and shows itself to be God over all the thoughts and desires [sons and daughters] of the land, so too the "king of this World honors the god of Forces" as the god of this Earth. It's like we are all in a boiling cauldron and the only way to survive is to eat each other up. This view is the result of becoming completely subject to the lower serpent of sensuality. Which is merely an overlay over what is real. Is it now time to remove the mask and return to our 1st Estate?

Michael Joseph - Identity
Fireman - a title for an office [duty] in the Estate created by some other actor
I - Self

Can we now appreciate the analogy of the ten tribes of Israel losing their identity? These 10 are no longer Surnamed I AM [Yah]. These substituted Truth for a Lie trading Identity in God for Identity in State [the creation of some actor]. When we begin to see the 12 tribes or the 12 apostles as 12 Powers in Man - then the picture becomes quite clear. 2 tribes never left that Identity - Judah [Praise] - Benyahmin [Redeemer]. As within: So without

Ezekiel 34:17 And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats. 18Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet? 19And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet.

Jon 4:11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

But she said she wanted a whole man not just a half.

"The Sun is shining - Yahvah, the Rainbow wants you to know you're a Rainbow too!"

Striving to remove the mask, I remain your fellow worker:
michael joseph

Phm 1:3 Grace to you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

On Sun, Jul 11, 2021 at 4:20 AM Michael Joseph <[e-mail]> wrote:
Principle and Attribute - written by MJ 11-July-2021

Brothers and Sisters:
Shall we sit down to strong meat? Is it time? If not put it on the shelf until it is time. One plants, another waters, God gives the increase. I hope you enjoy the feast. Yah be blessed forever!

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If we use the example of a radio to explain our nature we can then go to the Fibonacci sequence to see the truth. 1 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 5......

The first 1 is Principle [Principal] = Aether
The second 1 is Attribute = Fire-Air-Water-Earth

Gen 2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

back to the radio...

The signal is NOT the broadcast. The signal therefore is the first 1 in the Fibonacci series. The signal is our true Self independent of the desires, feelings, thought forms and other connections to manifestation. Now the radio picks up the signal and thru its mechanical aspects the broadcast is manifest. Therefore the broadcast is an attribute of the signal manifest thru the vehicle of the radio. And also, we can now see that the broadcast is an "individualized" manifestation of the signal. When one considers the radio we can see all different types of radios. For instance a ham radio is going to have much more dials [controls] than say a boom box. So then it is made clear that the broadcast is the individualized expression of the signal but is NOT the signal.

Ok. So for instance when light is considered in its essence [of which modern physics pretends to understand but has no clue] modern physics tries to define light by what light does. Let me use another example. When a pebble is tossed into a pond, which is composed of water, ripples form on its surface. Those ripples are called waves. The wave is an attribute of water but it is NOT water. The pond is to the wave as the radio is to the broadcast. Consider now the ridiculousness of modern physics which says light is a wave. No friends a wave is an attribute! A wave begs a medium to propagate. The wave in heated water is going to be different than a wave in cold water. Therefore attributes are depending on the nature of the manifest substrate.

Now look at your body in the mirror. Are you seeing the original signal or are you seeing the broadcast? If you can separate yourself from the attachments to the broadcast which is formed thru your five senses [the dials on the radio], then you can see that Father is the SIGNAL. The body is analogous to the radio. The body is NOT the signal or the broadcast!! Just as the radio is not the signal or the broadcast.

I [the Broadcast] and the Father [the Signal] are One. We are One but only if we can empty our attachments to the Broadcast - empty ourselves as it were of "worldly" pleasures in the Broadcast realm and put on Christ that is to say Divine Mind.

Gen 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.

Gen 2:10 And a river went out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.

Now, even I can see something is wrong here. Is the garden eastward IN Eden or is the garden outside of Eden? Let's explore the words....

eastwardH4480 H6924
H6924 - קדמה / קדם - qedem / qêdmâh
BDB Definition:
1) east, antiquity, front, that which is before, aforetime (noun masculine)
1a) front, from the front or east, in front, mount of the East
1b) ancient time, aforetime, ancient, from of old, earliest time
1c) anciently, of old (adverb)
1d) beginning
1e) east
2) eastward, to or toward the East (adverb)

Now, is the filler word "in" supported by the text?
in Eden;H5731
H5731 – עֵדֶן - ‛êden - ay'-den
The same as H5730 (masculine); Eden,

H5730 - עֶדְנָה עֵדֶן - ‛êden ‛ednâh - ay'-den, ed-naw'
From H5727; pleasure: - delicate, delight, pleasure. See also H1040.

H5727 – עָדַן - ‛âdan - aw-dan' -
A primitive root; to be soft or pleasant; figuratively and reflexively to live voluptuously: - delight self.

H1040 - בֵּית עֵדֶן - bêyth ‛êden - bayth ay'-den
From H1004 and H5730; house of pleasure;

H1004 – בַּיִת – bayith - bah'-yith
Probably from H1129 abbreviated; a house (in the greatest variation of applications, especially family, etc.): - court, daughter, door, + dungeon, family, + forth of, X great as would contain, hangings. home[born], [winter]house (-hold), inside(-ward), palace, place, + prison, + steward, + tablet, temple, web, + within (-out).

So now from the roots of Eden we can see the term "in" is substantiated so long as one looks at Eden as a Paradise Matrix - a Paradise State. Verse 8 can be rewritten

Gen 2:8 And the LORD God set up a the Most Ancient Church/State system [intelligence or Wisdom] from ancient times of Love; and there he put the Man whom he had formed.

The "garden" of that Most Ancient Church/State is the Wisdom derived of Love from God!! So the Wisdom of the Perfect Man flows to Man from God in Love. If Love is not contemplated of this Man's Understanding then it is foul and must be thrown out. Faith has no place here except to be subject to Love. But notice the Intellect or the Garden is of God rooted in Love!! New Testament - "Where are your accusers woman? I do not condemn you. Go forth and sin no more."

The Innermost Key: "The garden planted eastward in Eden" is God. We live move and have our being in Him. So then Love flows as a river out of God to Man and from Man to God. Man therefore is the Vehicle for individualized expression of God.

What then of verse 10?

Gen 2:10 And a riverH5104 went outH3318 of EdenH4480 H5731 to waterH8248 (H853) the garden;H1588 and from thenceH4480 H8033 it was parted,H6504 and becameH1961 into fourH702 heads.H7218

River = H5104
H5104 – נָהָר - nâhâr - naw-hawr'
From H5102; a stream (including the sea; especially the Nile, Euphrates, etc.); figuratively, prosperity: - flood, river.
H5102 – נָהַר - nâhar - naw-har'
A primitive root; to sparkle, that is, (figuratively) be cheerful; hence (from the sheen of a running stream) to flow, that is, (figuratively) assemble: - flow (together), be lightened.

Genesis 2:10 can be rewritten:
Gen 2:10 And Wisdom flowed out of Love to sustain the intelligence; and it came to pass after some time intelligence of man became better understood as they related to Love from God.

Wisdom therefore is compared to a River and Man therefore is compared to a Garden. As Man is a Garden it must be watered by Reason, Understanding and Wisdom and these "flow" to man of God by Love.

Head 1: Intelligence of Faith from Love. Love is the principle. Faith is the attribute. The head is the knowledge of these matters in relation to the origin

Head 2. Knowledge of what is good and what is true derived of Love. Love is principle. Good and True are attributes.

Head 3. Reasonings from Love. Clearsightedness.

Head 4. Rational Mind

In Gen 2:14, by the " river which goeth eastward toward Asshur," signifies that the clearsightedness of reason comes from the Lord through the internal man into the rational mind, which is of the external man "Phrath," or Euphrates, is scientific-knowledge, which is the ultimate or boundary.

The start of a river is called its Source the end of the river is called its Mouth. So verse 10 seems to be a paradox until one realizes that the waters of the Ocean evaporate and rise and are carried by the wind to the mountain where they are posited at the head via precipitation. So then the Head and the Mouth is Source and the Mouth returns to Source! All is God.

Key : God is our Source. Christ is All and in All. Eden therefore is God's Love [delight].

GARDEN = H1588
H1588 – גַּן – gan – gan -
From H1598; a garden (as fenced): - garden.

H1598 – גָּנַן - gânan - gaw-nan'
A primitive root; to hedge about, that is, (generally) protect: - defend.

Summary:

In the supreme sense, the "garden planted by Yahovah God in Eden in the east" is the Lord Himself. In the inmost sense, which is also the universal sense, it is the Lord‘s kingdom, and the heaven in which man is placed when he has become celestial. His state then is such that he is with the angels in heaven, and is as it were one among them; for man has been so created that while living in this world he may at the same time be in heaven. In this state all his thoughts and ideas of thoughts, and even his words and actions, are open, even from the Lord, and contain within them what is celestial and spiritual; for there is in every man the life of the Lord, which causes him to have perception.

Life, or the order of life, with the spiritual man, is such that although the Lord flows in, through faith, into the things of his understanding, reason, and memory (intellectual knowledge of science) yet as his external man fights against his internal man, it appears as if intelligence did not flow in from the Lord, but from the man himself, through the things of memory and via rational deduction or the "scientific method" of testing. But the life, or order of life, of the celestial man, is such that the Lord flows in through love and the faith of love into the things of his understanding, reason, and memory (intellectual knowledge of science), and as there is no combat between the internal and the external man, he perceives that this is really so.

Therefore is the celestial Man called a "garden in Eden in the East" for he "walks with God". Therefore the celestial Man is a Heaven in the least sense and a Church in the least sense. But the spiritual Man remains in conflict "judging" his Earth until he finally finds what "head" and "mouth" mean. The spiritual Man employs his mental "powers" thinking that his good is from his own will. He walks not in Grace. He is concerned with Law and its application subject, of course, to his choice. He does not "see" that the SIGNAL is the Love of God.

God is principle. Love is attribute.

Spirit of Man = Antennae. (the inner man). The celestial Man puts on Godhood (Christ is formed in him).

Consider again: The signal is our true Self independent of the desires, feelings, thought forms and other connections to manifestation. Now the radio picks up the signal and thru its mechanical aspects the broadcast is manifest.

What if we decide to turn down the volume? Will there be a broadcast? Eve therefore in the innermost sense is our ability to express our will. Thinking ourselves to be separate of God, Eve eats of that forbidden fruit. Look how humanity has been led to a state of godlessness in atheistic secular humanism. Eve has become the Head.

For the intrepid: Male [Electricity] - Female [Magnetism - the Iron Male] : conjoined in a torroidal imprint in Aether. Consider now the two pillars and the waters of orgasm and the mystical meaning of the letter "M". See it? Three Vav's. The higher Serpent.

I withdraw with a favorite tune: www.youtube.com/watch?v=55TOIJxKc74 May the four winds blow you safely home!!

"The Sun is shining - Yahvah, the Rainbow wants you to know you're a Rainbow too!"

With kindest regards, JIM

[Dave]

Principle: Man is law in action.
In realization and redemption, man experiences The Word made Flesh. A living Word he becomes. Paul, the Operation of Truth, is that status in the kingdom. A citizen of the Heavenly Court. Proclaiming our Lord Jesus Christ in recognition that God is One.

YES – agree – Jewish / Messianic Jewish / Gnostic Christian – the meaning of life / the reason we are here / our purpose

Jer 1:5 “Before I formed you in the womb, I knew you, and before you were born, I set you apart—I appointed you prophet to the nations.”

I sought to find wealth because I thought wealth would bring happiness, but the more wealth I accumulated the greater the heartache because I had the responsibility of maintenance. I worked hard to maintain that which I had gained a temporary possession.

The Hypostasis of the Archons
Moreover, they threw mankind into great distraction and into a life of toil, so that their mankind might be occupied by worldly affairs, and might not have the opportunity of being devoted to the holy spirit.

The trap of the WORLD
1- Our individual reflection of self-worth – a measure of WORLDly success – keeping up with the Jones
2- Because of Gen 3 – man is in a struggle against the WORLD
Sometimes WORLD alone unsets our tranquility – war / famine / pestilence / earthquake / volcano

Then I wondered who set the stumbling block before each of these? And can true happiness come to the seeker? Then it dawned on me, the answer is no.

YES – agree Jews / Messianic Jews / Gnostic do not have a god of evil that forces man to do anything
Man is animal + spirit
The animal comes with biological programmed instinct for self-preservation – SELF
The spirit / soul come with the commission of Jer 1:5 and firsthand knowledge of God
What is the stumbling block – me – my own selfishness – introverted me – mine
And it is all generated by our animal instinct to survive as an animal - power - be the alpha

In duality is this not the tree of "good and bad"? Who will judge what is good or what is bad? And it is thereby which discontent rules in the heart of dissatisfaction.
Correct – it is not the tree of good and bad – or even good and evil (Hebrew tov and ra)
It is the gnosis (knowledge / understanding) between the tov and ra
Who will judge? – reserve comment until I read more

Then I considered what then of volition? Can I exercise my will and remain happy? And I have really given this some hard thought. And the only answer I have arrived at is YES, but ONLY if I choose to serve others. The moment I choose to serve myself, I become a judge of what makes me happy and now I have fallen into duality. Because once I get what makes me happy, happiness runs away again. Yet, if I serve another, I can view the fruits of my labor in a smile, a laugh, a touch. These are the fruits of love.

Then I realized the poor are not happier.

YES – agreed – the pursuit of wealth is an empty wealth
YET – as a parent with responsibility – I have asked you where to draw that line

Mat 19:21 Yeshua said to him, “If you wish to be perfect, go, sell what you own, and give to the poor; and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow Me.”
Mat 19:22 But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving, for he had much property.
Mat 19:23 Then Yeshua said to His disciples, “Amen, I tell you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.

Children and family are not property – they are the father’s responsibility

Psa 127:3 Behold, children are a heritage of Adonai—the fruit of the womb is a reward.
Psa 127:4 As arrows in the hand of a mighty man, so are the children of one’s youth.
Psa 127:5 Happy is the man whose quiver is full of them.

Col 3:20 Children, obey your parents in every respect, for this is pleasing to the Lord.
Col 3:21 Fathers, do not provoke your children, so they will not become discouraged.

Deu 6:6 These words, which I am commanding you today, are to be on your heart.
Deu 6:7 You are to teach them diligently to your children, and speak of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down and when you rise up.

YES – agreed – the pursuit of wealth is an empty wealth
YET – as a parent with responsibility – I have asked you where to draw that line

So then I considered the Devil and I realized that Selfishness is Satanism. And all sorts of demons rule in that realm.

YES – worship of self = Satanism – agreed
Even if you read their manifesto – hedonism is the way – if it feels good and is gratifying – go for it

I only exercise my volition to use the talent granted to me by the Divine Grantor. Can I bury that talent in the Earth? Hardly. It makes me unhappy to throttle the talent granted into my care.

Talent – Gifts – we are all gifted in our own way. To find your own niche is a blessing.
Often we are trapped by WORLD into roles that will never satisfy us

I saw I can exercise my volition and be happy. For works are conditioned upon working for the Lord Jesus Christ. For now I labor to please God and Man. And now why should I be satisfied with "good enough" when I am blessed to create masterpieces for Us?

We are all judged by our deeds, works, and fruit
Deeds – doing something nice – even the wicked love their mothers
Works – agreed – these are thing we do in promotion of God or not God
These can be stuff at church – praying with patients – teaching your children
Or promoting non-church, doubting faith, spreading misinformation
Fruit – the others we touch along the way and help along their path salvation
And now why should I be satisfied with "good enough" when I am blessed to create masterpieces for Us?
Another WORLD preacher trap
A lot of ministries start of well intended – but once they become a corporation with cash flow issues the WORLD spoils the original intent

Then I asked "what is true religion" and I almost laughed when the answer came. True religion is to do all acts from love.

I will agree – what you post here is just religion – all based upon you
A Personal Relationship with the One True God is the goal of Judaism / Christianity

Then I considered Salvation and the Light came On.

Just as the Central Ego sits in the throne room of the Mind and shows itself to be God over all the thoughts and desires [sons and daughters] of the land, so too the "king of this World honors the god of Forces" as the god of this Earth. It's like we are all in a boiling cauldron and the only way to survive is to eat each other up. This view is the result of becoming completely subject to the lower serpent of sensuality. Which is merely an overlay over what is real. Is it now time to remove the mask and return to our 1st Estate?

1- No mention of Jesu Christ – or a Divine pardon
Don’t mean to be a religious zealot – but it seems inappropriate to discuss salvation without including praise for John 3:16
2- Ego sits in the throne room of the Mind – SELF – I like it – (yester ra)
3- returning to our 1st estate – yet there is not definition of what this is
Please take a moment to define our 1st estate – this is an important difference between Jewish theology and Robert – who is an SDA on this forum

Jews say – Adamus was the perfect race of man
Came to earth as immortal Adam, who could see into heaven
Became mortal Adam who lived about 1000yrs, and was blind to heaven
Then man is limited to 120 yrs and blessed with eating meat
Finally – man is prevented from working together for common cause – and their languages were confused

To a Jew – or a Gnostic – returning to that 1st estate – is to return to the Perfect Man – spiritual man in heaven with God
Robert will tell you man is only biology – therefore this world must be his 1st estate

Can we now appreciate the analogy of the ten tribes of Israel losing their identity? These 10 are no longer Surnamed I AM [Yah]. These substituted Truth for a Lie trading Identity in God for Identity in State [the creation of some actor]. When we begin to see the 12 tribes or the 12 apostles as 12 Powers in Man - then the picture becomes quite clear. 2 tribes never left that Identity - Judah [Praise] - Benyahmin [Redeemer]. As within: So without

Many layers to scripture –
GOD MARRIES ISRAEL AT SINI

The DIVORCE OF ISRAEL

Jer 3:6 Then Adonai said to me in the days of King Josiah: “Have you seen what backsliding Israel did? She went up on every high mountain and under every green tree, and there she committed adultery.
Jer 3:7 Yet I thought that after she had done all this she would return to Me. But she did not return. Even her unfaithful sister Judah saw it.
Jer 3:8 I noted that when backsliding Israel committed adultery I sent her away and gave her a certificate of divorce. Yet, unfaithful Judah, her sister, did not fear. Instead she also went and committed adultery.

Judah remains and the Northern Kingdom becomes Samaria
10 tribes are lost to the world – but we know who they are today genetically
Look at the two tribes of Judah + look at Israel today + trace the path of human expansion into Scandinavia / Russia / Europe / The British Isles / which went on to propagate the Caucasian White Western Culture of Roma Christendom
Then Jesus Christ is born

THE REMARRIAGE OF ISRAEL

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Jesus came for the Jews first – (Judah + the 10 lost tribes) - then the gentiles

I am loving every word of this Jim
It has been a while since someone has made me think so hard
Good Read

I’ll work on more of this as time permits - Dave

[Dave]

Summary:
In the supreme sense, the "garden planted by Yahovah God in Eden in the east" is the Lord Himself. In the inmost sense, which is also the universal sense, it is the Lord‘s kingdom, and the heaven in which man is placed when he has become celestial. His state then is such that he is with the angels in heaven, and is as it were one among them; for man has been so created that while living in this world he may at the same time be in heaven. In this state all his thoughts and ideas of thoughts, and even his words and actions, are open, even from the Lord, and contain within them what is celestial and spiritual; for there is in every man the life of the Lord, which causes him to have perception.

Eden – Most Jewish Rabbi that are willing to discuss it use Enoch as their guide
Eden is not in this dimension – Eden = Heaven 3

The Second Book of Enoch, The Secrets of Enoch, Slavid Enoch
8:1AND those men took me thence, and led me up on to the third heaven, and placed me there; and I looked downwards, and san the produce of these places, such as has never been known for goodness.
2 And I saw all the sweet-flowering trees and beheld their fruits, which were sweet-smelling, and all the foods borne by them bubbling with fragrant exhalation.
3 And in the midst of the trees that of life, in that place whereon the Lord rests, when he goes up into paradise; and this tree is of ineffable goodness and fragrance, and adorned more than every existing thing; and on all sides it is in form gold-looking and vermilion and fire-like and covers all, and it has produce from all fruits.
4 Its root is in the garden at the earth's end.
5 And paradise is between corruptibility and incorruptibility.
6 And two springs come out which send forth honey and milk, and their springs send forth oil and wine, and they separate into four parts, and go round with quiet course, and go down into the PARADISE OF
EDEN, between corruptibility and in corruptibility.
7 And thence they go forth along the earth, and have a revolution to their circle even as other elements.
8 And here there is no unfruitful tree, and every place is blessed.
9 And there are three hundred angels very bright, who keep the garden, and with incessant sweet singing and never-silent voices serve the Lord throughout all days and hours.
10 And I said: 'How very sweet is this place,' and those men said to me:

9:1 THIS place, O Enoch, is prepared for the righteous, who endure all manner of offence from those that exasperate their souls, who avert their eyes from iniquity, and make righteous judgement, and give bread to the hungering, and cover the naked with clothing, and raise up the fallen, and help injured orphans, and who walk without fault before the face of the Lord, and serve him alone, and for them is prepared this place for eternal inheritance.

Eden = Heaven 3 and this is why the Rabbi will say Adam and Eve ‘stepped down into the lower world’

for man has been so created that while living in this world he may at the same time be in heaven.
Agreed – this is prayer – communion

In this state all his thoughts and ideas of thoughts, and even his words and actions, are open, even from the Lord, and contain within them what is celestial and spiritual; for there is in every man the life of the Lord, which causes him to have perception.

Agreed – man is animal with it biological programmed instinct - (yester ra)
Man is also spirit/soul (yester tov)
This is the FREE WILL choice we have – follow (yester ra) or follow (yester tov)

which causes him to have perception.
Agreed – The curse of the tree of knowledge (gnosis) of the difference between tov and ra = perception

Life, or the order of life, with the spiritual man, is such that although the Lord flows in, through faith, into the things of his understanding, reason, and memory (intellectual knowledge of science) yet as his external man fights against his internal man, it appears as if intelligence did not flow in from the Lord, but from the man himself, through the things of memory and via rational deduction or the "scientific method" of testing.

intellectual knowledge of science – is a function of biology – brain – Mind
Sure – all revelation is from God – Newton – Einstein – Musk
But – the (gnosis) knowledge / understanding / perception of the spirit/soul is not of biology

external man fights against his internal man – (yester ra - WORLD) vrs (yester tov – Spirit/Soul)

Rom 7:9 Once I was alive apart from the Torah; but when the commandment came, sin came to life
Rom 7:10 and I died. The commandment meant for life was found to cause death.
Rom 7:11 Sin, taking an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me.
Rom 7:12 So then, the Torah is holy, and the commandment is holy and righteous and good.
Rom 7:13 Therefore did that which is good become death to me? May it never be! Rather it was sin working death in me—through that which is good—so that sin might be shown to be sin, and that through the commandment sin might become utterly sinful.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the Torah is spiritual; but I am of the flesh, sold to sin.
Rom 7:15 For I do not understand what I am doing—for what I do not want, this I practice; but what I hate, this I do.
Rom 7:16 But if I do what I do not want to do, then I agree with the Torah—that it is good.
Rom 7:17 So now it is no longer I doing it, but sin dwelling in me.
Rom 7:18 For I know that nothing good dwells in me—that is, in my flesh. For to will is present in me, but to do the good is not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I want, I do not do; but the evil that I do not want, this I practice.
Rom 7:20 But if I do what I do not want, it is no longer I doing it, but sin that dwells in me.
Rom 7:21 So I find the principle—that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.
Rom 7:22 For I delight in the Torah of God with respect to the inner man,
Rom 7:23 but I see a different law in my body parts, battling against the law of my mind and bringing me into bondage under the law of sin which is in my body parts.
Rom 7:24 Miserable man that I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?
Rom 7:25 Thanks be to God—it is through Messiah Yeshua our Lord! So then, with my mind I myself serve the Torah of God; but with my flesh, I serve the law of sin.
But the life, or order of life, of the celestial man, is such that the Lord flows in through love and the faith of love into the things of his understanding, reason, and memory (intellectual knowledge of science), and as there is no combat between the internal and the external man, he perceives that this is really so.

he perceives that this is really so. Reality
I hate this paragraph – justifying being comfortable in your own skin – seem counter to what Paul says
Paul indicates that with spiritual awareness – we are aware of what an animal we are
This revelation brings shame / guilt for continuing to be an animal

Paul continued to be disappoint and frustrated with those he ministered to
Paul continued to be convicted of his own animal-ness

God is principle. Love is attribute.
Spirit of Man = Antennae. (the inner man). The celestial Man puts on Godhood (Christ is formed in him).

Clarification please for the phrase - The celestial Man puts on Godhood (Christ is formed in him).

Gnostic text speak of becoming a Christ – we are not just to be Christians but to become a Christ
However – before it says this is explains how we are each a satan
Peter was a satan to Jesus Christ because he suggested a path not ordained by God
I can be your satan if I drag you into crime – your bad influence
Therefore I can be your Christ – if I lead you to salvation

Clarification please for the phrase - The celestial Man puts on Godhood (Christ is formed in him