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Post by Dave on Apr 30, 2021 9:34:33 GMT -5
This experiment is amazing Double slit experiment for children Perfect demonstration that anyone can see with their own eyes Light travels as a wave - and is measurable as a particle when it interacts with another object youtu.be/O81Cilon10MThis experiment is amazing, can you make a thread for it, so I can comment more fully To this I will addElectron cloudThe electron cloud model was developed in 1926 by Erwin Schrödinger and Werner Heisenberg. The model is a way to help visualize the most probable position of electrons in an atom. The electron cloud model is currently the accepted model of an atom. The atoms were traveling at such a high speed that there was no predictable time or place for the electron to be. The electrons were like a blur which is where they got the 'Electron Cloud' from. This is the Heisenberg Uncertainty PrincipleIt changes the Rutherford Atomic Model from – particles orbiting a nucleus To: clouds of energy – morphed by various forces into different shapes at increased energy levels The electron is not a particle – it is a cloud of energy We are taught as kids that electricity is the movement of electrons In college physics we learn that child model is not correct Electricity is the translation of energy from one location to another Energy cannot be created or destroyed – only transmuted or TRANSLATED New science – the 5th Force of NatureReality is not composed of particles – it is a combination of 4 basic forces Gravity, electromagnetism, strong nuclear force, and weak nuclear force The combination of these forces results in a measurable thing we call particles All visible reality is composed of many tiny forces that are mathematical described as clouds of energy These forces result is a collection of MUONS – and each MUON is composed of A TRINITY OF QUARKS – two that always spin the same and one that always spins opposite The New 5th Force – is another non-thing cloud of energy – a force – or a particle I fully endorse Anton Petrov – I force my kids to watch his stuff as part of home school Skip to 4:00 minutes in and listen till 6:00 minutes He says – is it a particle or a force – a force or a particle The double slit experiment proves – light travels as a waveBut is measurable as a particle when it interacts with another object The very act of measuring = interaction with another objectDeeper yet – String Theory – the very act of measurement effect the resultsQuantum physics has answers for 3 of the 4 basic forces – but not gravity String theory makes gravity a function of mass – no mass no gravity The more massive the greater the gravitational pull – Newton’s inverse square law One force alone is unperceivable We measure each force by the (translation of its energy to another object) This translation of energy is measurable as inertia (a measurement of the momentum) is translated to the other object A wave on the water is just a wave But when the wave strikes the dock – it imparts (translates) its energy as a force upon the dock In a storm – that wave can damage the dock – because it delivers so much energy In a Hurricane it can wash the dock away That force is measurable as POUNDS PER SQUARE INCH Thet force is measured as a thing of mass Light travels as a wave – it is not measureable as a particle until it interact with another object The cool thing about light is that it is the only wave that requires no medium AND the reason is – The Holy Spirit is the medium – that 2nd dimensional ether – the Spirit of God
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2021 17:32:47 GMT -5
I fully endorse Anton Petrov – I force my kids to watch his stuff as part of home school Skip to 4:00 minutes in and listen till 6:00 minutes He says – is it a particle or a force – a force or a particle Wow, always things we find hard to fathom, thanks for this Dave. thomas young, watching duck ripples in a ripple tank so done it again with light Light patterns on a screen Sand patterns on a screen Light patterns when the light is very low... youtu.be/O81Cilon10MHence light travels as a particle, but when forced to act as a wave, does so. I get the impression that light travels as a particle or BEING, and only functions as a wave or MEDIUM when it is required to do so. Is there a Bible text for this duality effect? Job 33:4 The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. In other words the HS functions as a wave, while the SHADDAY functions as a BEING. These functions come from the same divine person of elohiym. Shalom Shabbat
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2021 6:29:13 GMT -5
You asked R: This experiment is amazing, can you make a thread for it, so I can comment more fully Just so you could say this Hence light travels as a particle, but when forced to act as a wave, does so. I have spent a lot of time with you – and I tried to take you seriously But you choose only to be disruptive and attempt to tear down and corrupt the truth No educed person surviving American High School physics agrees with you No one watching this presentation over the age of 7 draws the same conclusion as you Therefore 1- - you are just not very bright at all – down right ignorant – a complete learning disability 2- or you just choose error to be cantankerous and be disruptive I told you before - I know who you are
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2021 16:09:14 GMT -5
I don't get you, isn't that what the man said towards the end of the experiments? Light travels as a particle that behaves as a wave. This is what he said. It's spooky he said. Does both. Duality. He does NOT make application of his findings, it finishes rather quickly which is sad. Light patterns when the light is very low... seems like particles hitting screen at random, but when he collects many of these particle hits, they form a wave pattern. Isn't this what He said? So my question to you does light do duality? (you cannot answer yes, because you have gone to great lengths to mock my child like understand - you would answer no, light only always travels as a wave, hence "spirit' ) www.britannica.com/science/wave-particle-dualityI notice modern theory now seems to say light travels as a wave with a particle behaviour inside. So they would say yes to this duality idea, but insist light travels as a wave. I was taught light travels as a straight ray, now your saying light spreads out as a wave, how does one do any vector analysis of light now? Now your saying GOD is a wave and has no shape? That's not what the torah says, it says nobody has seen the shape of the Father, but some shape He has. Waves do not have shape. Shalom
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Post by Dave on May 1, 2021 23:32:53 GMT -5
I don't get you, isn't that what the man said towards the end of the experiments? Light travels as a particle that behaves as a wave. This is what he said. It's spooky he said. Does both. Duality. If you are honest with me – and truly don’t understand English – even if presented from many different sources I will try one last timeLight patterns when the light is very low... seems like particles hitting screen at random, but when he collects many of these particle hits, they form a wave pattern. ... seems like particles hitting screen at randomThe key is – hitting the screen – photons are measurable as a thing of mass (particle) when it interacts with the screen When an ocean wave crashes upon the dock – the energy translated from the wave to the dock is measurable as mass (pounds per square inch) When a photon strikes another object – the energy translated from the light wave is measurable as mass (a photon) particle with a mass of ( 5.610 × 10 - 25 MeV c - 2 ) WHY IS THE LIGHT A DOT – because you are only perceiving the peak amplitude of that waveSo my question to you does light do duality?Absolutely – light travels as a wave and is measurable as a particle when it interacts with another object I have said this over and over Every evidence I have presented to you says the samewww.britannica.com/science/wave-particle-dualityI notice modern theory now seems to say light travels as a wave with a particle behaviour inside. So they would say yes to this duality idea, but insist light travels as a wave I have said this over and over Every evidence I have presented to you says the sameGod only knows why you resist the truthAnswer – because you come to the discussion with your mind closed to only what you have been taught It is all you can see – you know the answer before you start – then you can look for supporting evidence THAT IS NOT A STUDY You already know the answer you want to find You know cherub chata and you twist scripripture to fit your doctrine THAT IS NOT A STUDY - it is religious posturingI was taught light travels as a straight ray, now your saying light spreads out as a wave, You are mixing scientific themesLight was once thought to travel in a straight line – until Einstein – and now there have been many experiments demonstrating light bending around stars www.science.org.au/curious/space-time/gravity#:~:text=Gravity%20bends%20light&text=Light%20travels%20through%20spacetime%2C%20which,of%20light%20caused%20by%20gravity%20. Gravity bends lightLight travels through spacetime, which can be warped and curved—so light should dip and curve in the presence of massive objects. This effect is known as gravitational lensing I was taught light travels as a straight ray – in the 4th gradeBut you were to young to discuss that the light is actually radiating in a 360 degree spherical ball Now your saying GOD is a wave and has no shape? In a sense – on a much larger scale God the Father sits upon His throne – the shekinah (Spirit) radiates out from God - forming the 2nd dimensional omnipresent medium that sustains all creation – the tov and the ra – on a scale smaller than the quantum world In Quantum physics there are no particles – we are an illusion – a hologram – formed by the interaction of NOW 5 basic quantum forces All visible reality is built upon nothing more that forces of energyE=mc2That's not what the torah says, it says nobody has seen the shape of the Father,God took the form of a man – In Gen 14 – in the Gospels – in Exodus 33 back Waves do not have shape.You are correct – they are omnipresent quantum vibrations that is the medium for the construct of the 3D form The First Dimensional Singularity – expressed at a distance as Spirit – or in the form of man
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Post by Dave on May 2, 2021 15:13:39 GMT -5
Now your saying GOD is a wave and has no shape? In a sense – on a much larger scale God the Father sits upon His throne – the shekinah (Spirit) radiates out from God - forming the 2nd dimensional omnipresent medium that sustains all creation – the tov and the ra – on a scale smaller than the quantum world In Quantum physics there are no particles – we are an illusion – a hologram – formed by the interaction of NOW 5 basic quantum forces All visible reality is built upon nothing more that forces of energy E=mc2 Look at this backwardsEvery school child understands how the mass of earth actually causes a dip / a bend / a depression / a GRAVITY WELL And Newtonian Physics teaches us that the greater the mass = the greater gravity well Quantum Physics deals with the smallest scale – at the scale of sub-atomic particles Imagine – the gravity well of a singular sub-atomic particle The scale where the sub-atomic particle loses definition as a corporeal thing of mass – but is best defined as a small clouds of E – small packets of E
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Post by Dave on May 2, 2021 15:19:19 GMT -5
Quantum Physics also says – the invisible (non-corporeal) only becomes visible (corporeal) when you interact with it the invisible (non-corporeal) only becomes visible (corporeal) when you measure it It is the interaction of two sub-atomic gravity wells – that we can measure It is the interaction between two waves of forces – that translates E in a measurable way It is the interaction between the amplitude of two waves of forces – that translates E into the mass of our 3D physical reality IN THE BEGINNING GOD SPOKE THE WORDThat word was with God – as it radiated out to form the ether of the ALL – the reverberations of that sound wave = our 2nd dimensional medium that supplies all the E that sustains everything Imagine that sound wave reverberation throughout creation on the sub-atomic scale String Theory – is a sub set of quantum physics They speak of vibrating strings – that interact to form our reality I say toss a Hawaiian Ley on each 3Dwave peak = the same image
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2021 15:46:26 GMT -5
While I respect your presentation Dave, it's still currently a theory, and Quantum Physics is still a theory too. Sure I get the fact that elohiym is light, hence is essentially a simile of energy.
You say at the lowest levels, quantum has no particles, just energy.
That seems OK.
You also agree that light has duality.
So what Scripture tells us anything about the Father? I present all verses using the word "shape".
Lu 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Energy can assume a shape when it wants to. That is what this text is saying.
Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. (KJV)
Nobody has seen the Father's shape, but the text says the Father has shape. Go figure.
Lu 9:29 And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
When Jesus in a human body prayed His shape changed to the same shape of glory that divinity has.
2Co 5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
We walk by amanuah, not by shape. This is a strange text and need some more pondering. The shape here is the glory of divinity, but the amanuah here is the glory of divinity. So why are both mentioned here? Seems to me that our walk with GOD uses his divine power, and does not require us to see this divine glory as a shape.
1Th 5:22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
Abstain from the shapes of ra. And you say GOD creates RA intentionally? I don't think so. Einstein is correct in saying ra does not exist. Meaning that umbra shadows can be made, only when certain relationships are considered between the sinner and the Creator.
The result for all these verses is simple:
Energy does have a shape, and nobody has seen this shape. We can make a guess as to what the shape looks like, because mankind was created in the image of elohiym power.
GOD is beyond time, matter and space, so this divine shape remains a mystery for us to ponder.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on May 2, 2021 17:42:19 GMT -5
You also agree that light has duality.
So what Scripture tells us anything about the Father? I present all verses using the word "shape".
Change the subject and argue vocabulary - word man
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Post by Dave on May 3, 2021 11:27:20 GMT -5
Lu 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. Energy can assume a shape when it wants to. That is what this text is saying. ABSOLUTELY AGREEThis is absolutely how archon / demons / evil spirits shapeshift YES – When an archon appears One guy can see a beautiful angel One guy can see His long dead mother One guy can see an alien And another guy will just see the archon/shedim in its true form David Ike – take this one step further Did the Holy Spirit actually take on the form of a Dove – or is that just what people saw? David Ike makes the claim – that these archon/shedim have the ability to trick your mind Just like hypnosis – you think you see an alien – but it is actually a shedim/archon David Ike met a Reptilian – which then morphed into a man in a business suit David Ike questions – did the thing actually change form – or did the alien trick his mind into seeing it Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape. Nobody has seen the Father's shape, but the text says the Father has shape. Go figure.ERROR – you have taken one verse out of context – to make an invalid point You are disrespecting the words of Jesus Christ This is exactly what I mean by picking up your game – accuracy is always respectedJoh 5:38 and His word ye have not remaining in you, because whom He sent, him ye do not believe. People who do not believe have not heard the father’s voice or seen the Father’s shape
BUT – to believers Jesus saidJoh 14:9 Jesus saith to him, 'So long time am I with you, and thou hast not known me, Philip? he who hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how dost thou say, Shew to us the Father? Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father is in me? the sayings that I speak to you, from myself I speak not, and the Father who is abiding in me, Himself doth the works; Joh 14:11 believe me, that I am in the Father, and the Father in me; and if not, because of the works themselves, believe me. How could you miss such an import point?Answer – you shop for verses – instead of precepts upon precepts
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2021 13:51:46 GMT -5
ABSOLUTELY AGREE This is absolutely how archon / demons / evil spirits shapeshift
YES – When an archon appears One guy can see a beautiful angel One guy can see His long dead mother One guy can see an alien And another guy will just see the archon/shedim in its true form
David Ike – take this one step further Did the Holy Spirit actually take on the form of a Dove – or is that just what people saw? David Ike makes the claim – that these archon/shedim have the ability to trick your mind Just like hypnosis – you think you see an alien – but it is actually a shedim/archonYes I agree with your post here too. well said ERROR – you have taken one verse out of context – to make an invalid point You are disrespecting the words of Jesus Christ This is exactly what I mean by picking up your game – accuracy is always respectedI see. Whoever has seen or heard Jesus has seen or heard the Father, Jesus said this. Yes I get you. But isn't this how amanuah works? The instructions of the torah as the Father's words. Jesus, the SON became the imrah of the Father's words. Jesus supported those words, personified them. Thus the character of Jesus is exactly the same as the character of the Father. Disciples (you and me) also support Jesus, so our character becomes the same as Jesus character, who knew sin, but never sinned, and is a friend of sinners, but also divine. SO we become little jesus on earth, we assume the character and power of our Saviour. That is how amanuah works. But it would be a proud error of pride to say I AM CHRIST, as some on earth have claimed. You are presenting modalism, and I am presenting a family model of elohiym, hence we write differently in this regard. However the text says : Joh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.(KJV Now you can ignore this torah too, but clearly it says nobody has seen the Father's shape, thus your modalism idea must be wrong Dave. Clearly Scripture must remain infallible. SHalom
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Post by Dave on May 4, 2021 7:46:54 GMT -5
ERROR – you have taken one verse out of context – to make an invalid point You are disrespecting the words of Jesus Christ This is exactly what I mean by picking up your game – accuracy is always respectedI see. Whoever has seen or heard Jesus has seen or heard the Father, Jesus said this. Yes I get you. But isn't this how amanuah works? This is exactly how faith works – if you believe in Jesus Christ as God in Craniate Then you have seen the Father and heard His voice Personally – I believeJoh 5:37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.(KJV How you can ignore this torah too, but clearly it says nobody has seen the Father's shape, If you don’t have faith in Jesus Christ as God incarnate then you can’t understand what ids in your sight Why don’t you believe? You say you practice your religious your worship rituals dailyJoh 5:38 Nor do you have His Word living in you, because you do not trust the One He sent. Joh 5:39 You search the Scriptures because you suppose that in them you have eternal life. It is these that testify about Me. Joh 5:40 Yet you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life! You have no problem disrespecting scripture - twist it into something it is not
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2021 13:30:04 GMT -5
You have no problem disrespecting scripture - twist it into something it is not
Dave you present modalism again but saying "If you don’t have faith in Jesus Christ as the Father incarnate then you can’t understand what ids in your sight Why don’t you believe?"
Jesus said, My Father and I are echad.
Jesus could have said, my Father and I are yaccid.
But Jesus did not say that. echad. compound unity. The stuff marriages are made of. The way amanuah works. The way the Father's words flowed into His Son, showing us the Father's glory. Both are divine, but Jesus walked in faith, showing us the Father's power. That is why Jesus said, who has seen me has seen the Father.
No wonder people hate hypocrites, whoever has seen the Christian, has seen Jesus on earth. Many of us do not live up to the power that is supposed to be flowing in us. We do not support Jesus correctly and thus lack Jesus flowing through us. That is how amanuah works. Become become character clones of Jesus, but never could we humans say I AM JESUS.
You have no problem disrespecting scripture - twist it into something it is not
No Dave, I just follow all the torah pictures I receive from torah. You ignore torah verses you don't like
Eph 3:14 ¶ For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, 15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,
Could modalism have this verse?
"Eph 3:14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our YHWH saving appointed expression, 15 Of whom the ..... in heaven and earth is named",
You exclude the picture of elohiym as a family,
Shalom
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Post by Dave on May 4, 2021 15:08:57 GMT -5
There is no such this as a family of ONE
and there is
ONLY ONE TRUE GOD
If you had faith - you could see that God is the Christ but you refuse to see it
Man is that creature that can choose - you have made your choice
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2021 5:04:09 GMT -5
I see? Take this analogy (a poetry simile)
A dry cell battery is a family of independent chemicals that must work dependently with each other in 100% harmony in order to make a single source of power flow.
The masculine cathode is made of flint metal. The masculine anode is made of a different more active cela metal. The feminine medium is made of a watery spirit.
As a family one source of power flows , as elohiym power.
This is how echad works.
Consider this tanak simile:
Pr 5:4 But her end <'achariyth> is bitter <mar> as wormwood <la`anah>, sharp <chad> as a twoedged <peh> sword <chereb>.
Notice a related word to echad is chad, meaning sharp. The word peh, meaning mouth has two lips that become one mouth, a simile of bitterness from the mouth, is used to make a simile of a double edged sword becoming echad, one in unity. It's a verse steeped in poetry pictures of similes.
SHalom
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