Post by Dave on Feb 5, 2021 10:17:51 GMT -5
Question – how was anyone supposed to understand Jude – if they don’t already know and understand who Enoch was and what he prophesied?
Jud 1:14 (TLV) It was also about these people that Enoch, the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with myriads of His kedoshim, 15 to execute judgment against all. He will convict all the ungodly for all their ungodly deeds that they have done in an ungodly way, and for all of the harsh things ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” 16 These are bellyaching grumblers, following after their own desires. Their mouth speaks grandiose things, showing favoritism for the sake of gain.
Jud 1:14 (YLT) And prophesy also to these did the seventh from Adam—Enoch—saying, 'Lo, the Lord did come in His saintly myriads, 15 to do judgment against all, and to convict all their impious ones, concerning all their works of impiety that they did impiously, and concerning all the stiff things that speak against Him did impious sinners.' 16 These are murmurers, repiners; according to their desires walking, and their mouth doth speak great swellings, giving admiration to persons for the sake of profit;
Jud 1:14 (KJV) And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all 16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Question – how was anyone supposed to understand Jude – if they don’t already know and understand who Enoch was and what he prophesied?
Answer – Enoch was common knowledge during the time of Jesus Christ
Why – Because the kabbalah has always been the Oral Torah
Question – ask a Christian about Enoch’s prophesy today
Answer - Enoch is a heretic full of lies and must be avoided because of the Roman Index
R My understanding is Jesus was a Jew who did not follow Kabbalah, or MidRash or other Jewish commentaries.
Jesus only read and followed the torah.
D” Jesus spoke of Beelzebub as if everyone understood who he was speaking of
R Correct, Jesus was familiar with Jewish ways, does not mean He supported those ways.
POINT – Jesus was familiar with the kabbalah (additional writings) Enoch, Jashar, Testament of Solomon
It was common knowledge during the time of Jesus Christ
Question – why doesn’t Roman Christendom want to know – or is afraid to know the prophesy
The Prophecy of Enoch You Have Never Heard Of
youtu.be/fBZSQv2zx4Y - 12:55min
I wasted a lot of time trying to find a doctrine statement for Lion of Judah
Does anyone have a link?
Are they Messianic Jews? – They sound like it – they sure understand and embrace Enoch and Jesus Christ in the same breath
(wiki) Lion of Judah - The Lion of Judah is a Jewish national and cultural symbol, traditionally regarded as the symbol of the Israelite tribe of Judah
The accent of this presenter seems Arabic – not Yiddish
Jud 1:14 (TLV) It was also about these people that Enoch, the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord came with myriads of His kedoshim, 15 to execute judgment against all. He will convict all the ungodly for all their ungodly deeds that they have done in an ungodly way, and for all of the harsh things ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” 16 These are bellyaching grumblers, following after their own desires. Their mouth speaks grandiose things, showing favoritism for the sake of gain.
Jud 1:14 (YLT) And prophesy also to these did the seventh from Adam—Enoch—saying, 'Lo, the Lord did come in His saintly myriads, 15 to do judgment against all, and to convict all their impious ones, concerning all their works of impiety that they did impiously, and concerning all the stiff things that speak against Him did impious sinners.' 16 These are murmurers, repiners; according to their desires walking, and their mouth doth speak great swellings, giving admiration to persons for the sake of profit;
Jud 1:14 (KJV) And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, 15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all 16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Question – how was anyone supposed to understand Jude – if they don’t already know and understand who Enoch was and what he prophesied?
Answer – Enoch was common knowledge during the time of Jesus Christ
Why – Because the kabbalah has always been the Oral Torah
Question – ask a Christian about Enoch’s prophesy today
Answer - Enoch is a heretic full of lies and must be avoided because of the Roman Index
R My understanding is Jesus was a Jew who did not follow Kabbalah, or MidRash or other Jewish commentaries.
Jesus only read and followed the torah.
D” Jesus spoke of Beelzebub as if everyone understood who he was speaking of
R Correct, Jesus was familiar with Jewish ways, does not mean He supported those ways.
POINT – Jesus was familiar with the kabbalah (additional writings) Enoch, Jashar, Testament of Solomon
It was common knowledge during the time of Jesus Christ
Question – why doesn’t Roman Christendom want to know – or is afraid to know the prophesy
The Prophecy of Enoch You Have Never Heard Of
youtu.be/fBZSQv2zx4Y - 12:55min
I wasted a lot of time trying to find a doctrine statement for Lion of Judah
Does anyone have a link?
Are they Messianic Jews? – They sound like it – they sure understand and embrace Enoch and Jesus Christ in the same breath
(wiki) Lion of Judah - The Lion of Judah is a Jewish national and cultural symbol, traditionally regarded as the symbol of the Israelite tribe of Judah
The accent of this presenter seems Arabic – not Yiddish