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Post by Dave on Jun 29, 2020 12:50:42 GMT -5
A lot of Christians will engage in the clone claim – Eve is a clone of Adam As someone trained in the area of genetics (because of my work with PCR and Immnuo assays) – I am not a geneticist or an expert – but have had to sit through a lot of genetic basic classes over the years. Sexual differentiation in humans – Wikipedia A human fetus does not develop its external sexual organs until seven weeks after fertilization. The fetus appears to be sexually indifferent, looking neither like a male or a female. Over the next five weeks, the fetus begins producing hormones that cause its sex organs to grow into either male or female organs. These hormones cause the gonads to be pushed externally Internal gonads as the fetus = female External gonads = male So you could make the scientific argument that – All fetuses are female until they become male - Adam came from EveIf you sit in a Bible Study with a lab guy, a pathologist, a histologist, an OB-GYN, or doctor this always comes up for discussion Question – we have been discussion the power of a metaphor Are metaphors meaning forward only played forward? The idea that 2 become 1 – as in a marriage example
Two incomplete DNAs that become complete when fused togetherFor me – this is what it looks like from man’s perspectiveMan is at the bottom of the 10 Seferots (dimensions) looking up – and the 2 become 1 – the male and female become one God  However – from God’s perspective – looking down the 10 seferots (dimensions) The 1 became 2 E = mc 2Video commentsThis guys vocabulary is 100% Genetic speak 02:45 – no serious geneticist is an evolutionist03:00 – Science has to stop there – science can’t even call it divine intervention, without looding their jobs or funding – So – without God (Romans 1- LYGBT) – and what fills this modern void of cause – Aliens with their UFOs 05:00 – Darwin was wrong 05:40 – the AMAZING value of the Jewish Kabbalah 05:50 – The Book of Creation – Love this book (the number is 10 - not 9 – not 11) 08:00 – encoding / download data into our DNA God teaches us the Torah within the womb Science would say instinctively we know But instinct = a DNA program We are that creature we are programed to be Maybe I should more correctly say – we could be that creature we were programmed to be – but the archon make it so very difficult – it is so hard to be mortal and not be carnal –if you don’t believe – ask Eve ponderingconfusion.com/papers.php?id=psychologyGenetic imprinting of interest and attitudes has a profound impact in our belief systems. Beliefs are powerful biases in interest and attitudes and are difficult to ignore. How many time has mankind refused to accept something new because of perceived conflicts with their belief systems. Many people are so quick to say, 'I can't believe in Aliens or life on Mars, because it isn't in the Bible - or - I can't believe in God, because the Bible might be mistakenly transcribed or translated.' It is truly hard to be intelligent as a species, when the power of our attitudes and belief systems are allowed to strangle our ability to be open minded and objective. 11:00 – all of this predates any religion – there is only one base theology |
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Post by Dave on Jun 30, 2020 8:58:27 GMT -5
All fetuses are female until they become male - Adam came from Eve If you sit in a Bible Study with a lab guy, a pathologist, a histologist, an OB-GYN, or doctor this always comes up for discussion after Eve yes, the mother of all living, chayah, a simile of the HS For Adam, where did He come from? From the HS, when GOD took the dust and the man came out, from the compassion-centre of GOD. The debate fuels a need for a divine female, creating Adam first. Shalom This is usually not the conclusion reached by the Bible Study Pslam 90:4 - 1 Peter 3:8 - Einstein's theory of releivity Scripture fits science - science fits scripture The order of incremental creation = the order of evolution Scripture fits science - science fits scripture The Trinity fits science - science fits the Trinity All of this inviting to the science trained mind However - Eve as a clone of Adam - does not fit observational science |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 14:04:36 GMT -5
However - Eve as a clone of Adam - does not fit observational science
Why not?
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Post by Dave on Jun 30, 2020 18:20:59 GMT -5
However - Eve as a clone of Adam - does not fit observational science - Why not?
Observational Science would be the study of those things we can observe
What does science observe in the development of the fetus
We all begin Female then become male at about 7 weeks
This is what science observes
Question - pretend you decide you want to seek the Lord - so you go to your first Bible Study
The man leading the Bible Study sound very eloquent and uses all the correct vocabulary
And he begins talking about the squirrels that run in cages inside the engine of his car
Immediately - you stop listening and just doubt if this guy is intelligent enough to stay alive
It is no different for any of the educated
Go to church today and preach the sun revolves around the earth
Or that the Earth is flat - or than man never went to the moon
Suddenly all the Gospel is dismissed - because you are dismissed
Today - there is even a larger problem - alien life / bacteria on Mars / UFOs
This is observed - for the church to deny - or accuse the UFOers of being crazy - is counter productive to educating your fellow man about the Lord
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 2:30:48 GMT -5
We all begin Female then become male at about 7 weeks
I thought the fetus has nothing developed until 5 weeks and than changes occur, either internally or externally?
Have I missed something? So we begin genderless.
Dave writes:"Today - there is even a larger problem
Yes, se believe in only concepts we accept currently...
For example, Ancient Egypt used wireless electricity in their homes powered by the pyramid power stations, according to Tesla.
Instead we use more primitive means, using copper wires...
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2020 10:21:22 GMT -5
I thought the fetus has nothing developed until 5 weeks and than changes occur, either internally or externally?
Have I missed something? So we begin genderless. Sexual differentiation in humans – Wikipedia A human fetus does not develop its external sexual organs until seven weeks after fertilization. The fetus appears to be sexually indifferent, looking neither like a male or a female. Over the next five weeks, the fetus begins producing hormones that cause its sex organs to grow into either male or female organs. These hormones cause the gonads to be pushed externallyInternal gonads as the fetus = female External gonads = male So you could make the scientific argument that – All fetuses are female until they become male - Adam came from Eve View Attachment
Yes, se believe in only concepts we accept currently... You did not address the problem - why does the church deny observational evidence? What of life on other planets (bacteria on Mars), aliens, and UFOs? For example, Ancient Egypt used wireless electricity in their homes powered by the pyramid power stations, according to Tesla.
Instead we use more primitive means, using copper wires...Correction - yes Tesla did speculate about sending energy through the air yes - the Egyptians were expose to some electricity - I agree But they did not light their homes by wireless energy transmission What is the end result of Tesla (as regards to sending energy through the air) - 5G Cell Phone Towers Which are pushing the limit of ‘safe energy’ If there was enough microwave power coming through the air to light your home - it would fry everything in its path PS - Where did Tesla do his experiments after NY kicked him out - Colorado Springs, Colorado I live 9 mile west of exit 52 - The Tesla Museum is at exit 135 - 91 miles away The POINT of Tesla - everything is energy and vibration - the electromagnetic spectrum - the matrix / ether of the ALL - E=mc 2 - everything is E
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2020 12:23:40 GMT -5
You didn't answer my query....do I have a problem reading words ?
A human fetus does not develop its external sexual organs until seven weeks after fertilization. The fetus appears to be sexually indifferent, looking neither like a male or a female.
So we begin genderless. DO you agree with this, from reading the facts as reported to us?
Secondly, Tesla developed a metal pyramid tower on Long Island, I believe,
and made light bulbs from rarefied gases which glow when placed in the ground, causing lights at night. Up to 5 Kms from the tower. Nothing dangerous like 5G... wireless electricity...
He said this is how Ancient Egypt got lights at night.
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2020 15:02:17 GMT -5
You didn't answer my query....do I have a problem reading words ? A human fetus does not develop its external sexual organs until seven weeks after fertilization. The fetus appears to be sexually indifferent, looking neither like a male or a female. So we begin genderless. DO you agree with this, from reading the facts as reported to us? Sexual differentiation in humans – Wikipedia … the fetus begins producing hormones that cause its sex organs to grow into either male or female organs. These hormones cause the gonads to be pushed externallyInternal gonads as the fetus = female External gonads = male The gonads are already under development inside the fetus - like a woman (overies) These hormones cause the gonads to be pushed externallyso around 7 weeks the gonads are pushed externally - like a man (testicels) If the fetus is female - no changeSecondly, Tesla developed a metal pyramid tower on Long Island, I believe, and made light bulbs from rarefied gases which glow when placed in the ground, causing lights at night. Up to 5 Kms from the tower. Nothing dangerous like 5G... wireless electricity... Please provide documentation(Wiki) - Wardenclyffe Tower (1901–1917), also known as the Tesla Tower, was an early experimental wireless transmission station designed and built by Nikola Tesla in Shoreham, New York in 1901–1902. Tesla intended to transmit messages, telephony and even facsimile images across the Atlantic to England and to ships at sea based on his theories of using the Earth to conduct the signals. His decision to scale up the facility and add his ideas of wireless power transmission to better compete with Guglielmo Marconi's radio based telegraph system was met with refusal to fund the changes by the project's primary backer, financier J. P. Morgan. Additional investment could not be found, and the project was abandoned in 1906, never to become operational. |
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Post by Dave on Jul 1, 2020 23:47:40 GMT -5
"When wireless is perfectly applied the whole earth will be converted into a huge brain, which in fact it is, all things being particles of a real and rhythmic whole. We shall be able to communicate with one another instantly, irrespective of distance. Not only this, but through television and telephony we shall see and hear one another as perfectly as though we were face to face, despite intervening distances of thousands of miles; and the instruments through which we shall be able to do his will be amazingly simple compared with our present telephone. A man will be able to carry one in his vest pocket."
Nicola Tesla 1926
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 4:49:02 GMT -5
The gonads are already under development inside the fetus - like a woman (overies)But the article writes: The fetus appears to be sexually indifferent, looking neither like a male or a female.So which statements are true? www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/ All human individuals—whether they have an XX, an XY, or an atypical sex chromosome combination—begin development from the same starting point. During early development the gonads of the fetus remain undifferentiated; that is, all fetal genitalia are the same and are phenotypically female. After approximately 6 to 7 weeks of gestation, however, the expression of a gene on the Y chromosome induces changes that result in the development of the testes. This suggests as you do, that fetus begins as a female, than the Y makes the male later on. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower You found the same article, its seems some claims...about Egypt wireless lamps. Try this: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222286/ It wasn't just the shape of the Egyptian pyramids but their location that created their power, according to Tesla. He built a tower facility known as the Tesla Experimental Station in Colorado Springs and Wardenclyffe Tower or Tesla Tower on the East Coast that sought to take advantage of the Earth's energy field. The locations were chosen according to the laws of where the Pyramids of Giza were built, related to the relationship between the elliptical orbit of the planet and the equator. The design was intended for wireless transmission of energy. Slow Internet... bother Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jul 2, 2020 8:21:58 GMT -5
Thanks for the validation Re-read the article – distill didn’t see it But did see - (Wiki) Although Tesla demonstrated wireless power transmission at Colorado Springs, lighting electric lights mounted outside the building where he had his large experimental coil, he did not scientifically test his theories. Back in the early 90s, High Power lines were strung over a public school in FloridaBefore Cell Phones – the public outcry claimed that the EM field created by the high power lines may hurt the kids – to demonstrate this EM radiation – the parent stood on top of the school with 48” fluorescent lights – soon everyone in America was doing it – I have tried to repeat it here in Colorado, but I think it is a humidity issue here all the photos seem to be on a warm misty night   FYI – the power company had to move their power linesAgreed – Tesla’s “wireless” energy transmission was not through the open air – it was through the earth This clip will explain to you why it did not – will not work youtu.be/KIR7tcS5d8A |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 14:12:26 GMT -5
Nice presentation Dave
It's great sometimes talking science...
The power of GOD as electricity, must be awesome...
Eze 1:4 ¶ And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
Eze 1:14 And the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning.
Eze 1:23 And under the firmament were their wings straight,
Eze 1:24 And when they went, I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as the voice of the Almighty, the voice of speech, Eze 1:25 And there was a voice from the firmament
Eze 1:26 ¶ And above the firmament...the glory of the LORD.
Notice Shadday and YHWH into two different locations as two Persons of GOD, within a system of complexity.
In fact H2O is like this, proton electron and neutrons, also inside the atomic quantum, a system of complexity...
Is electricity just solitary as a power? No
+ve and -ve as well as neutral sides exist as different persons of power.
If you made quantum or electricity solitary, it would cease to exist...
Such powers are always presented as relational...they have different personal sides...
The same applies to GOD....
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jul 2, 2020 16:13:45 GMT -5
Notice Shadday and YHWH into two different locations as two Persons of GOD, within a system of complexity.
You place limits upon God
You think God acts and behave just like mortal men
Mom and dad cannot be in the same place at the same time therefore you need multiple gods
Then you say
Is electricity just solitary as a power? No
+ve and -ve as well as neutral sides exist as different persons of power.
If you made quantum or electricity solitary, it would cease to exist...
AND YOU ARE ABSOLUTLE WRONG IN YOUR THINKING AND YOUR MODEL
I’ll play your electricity game
Look at the wall socket in your house
If it is not in communion / communication / connected / plugged in - you swear there is no electricity there - it ceases to exist
E on the left side of (=) is Potential energy
everything on the right side of (=) is kinetic energy
Energy cannot be created or destroyed - it can only be translated or transmuted
E can be transmuted (M) or translated (c2)
Does the E disappear? NO
Which part of the (m) is not 100% the original E
Which part of the (c2) is not 100% the original E
The E of your wall socket is alive - it exist
you must connect to it in some way to experience it
and when you experience it - do you only experience the (+) or only the (-) - NO!
it must be both to work
You grab the (+) wire without being grounded to the (-) you experience nothing
You grab the (-) wire without touching the (+) you experience nothing
Both when you are in touch with both the (+) and the (-) = you only experience the E
This is a perfect example of the Trinity
E=mc2
E = space(m) time (c2)
The only difference between Einstein and Scripture is
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
God created the invisible and then the visible
God created the (c2) then the (m) in that order
OK - Multidimensionalism states
1st D is a singularity that contain all data and all Energy - God is the All
2nd D is a planar reality - the base matrix / either / sustainer of the All
Gen 1:2 and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Spirit moves - implies distance = time = the very definition of (c2)
3rd D is the first expressed through the 2nd to form the 3rd
Therefore E = c2m is more scriptural
However - from man’s 3D perspective - we can only measure it as a simultaneous event
Therefore mc2 = c2m
E and m and c2 are not three different individual gods
The is only one God E and we experience Him as (m) Christ or (c2) Spirit
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2020 22:18:50 GMT -5
You E=MC2 relates divinity and creation together, its an equation that describes the divinity part E, with the non divinity part the M using a number called c2.
It's a way to describe divinity in partnership with matter.
Yet your description is my description:
You grab the (+) wire without being grounded to the (-) you experience nothing
You grab the (-) wire without touching the (+) you experience nothing
Both when you are in touch with both the (+) and the (-) = you only experience the E
This is a perfect example of the Trinity
This how love within a Family works...
The (-) is a Person...
the (+) is a person
but only if you connect them together do you get the E, the love flowing.
Where are our ideas any different?
Shalom
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Post by Dave on Jul 6, 2020 6:17:07 GMT -5
Where are our ideas any different?
You have been arguing against the Trinity since the beginning - I have no idea why?
if - You grab the (+) wire without being grounded to the (-) you experience nothing
You grab the (-) wire without touching the (+) you experience nothing
If we truly agree - then explain to how (The (-) is a Person - say HS) or (the (+) is a person - say Christ)can be independent from one another -
You E=MC2 relates divinity and creation together, its an equation that describes the divinity part E, with the non divinity part the M using a number called c2.
How can non-divinity be divinity?
How can (the (+) is a person - say Christ) on earth speak to the (E person) in heaven
On a different post - you seem to think this is impossible
How can we agree if we don’t agree?
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