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Post by Alan McDougall on Jun 7, 2015 2:52:26 GMT -5
The unimaginable vastness of the universe.
(I am/was an amateur astronomer, who used a German equatorial mounted 10 inch reflector telescope)
Author Alan McDougall.
The distances in space are unimaginably vast beyond human comprehension. If I try, tell an uninformed that it is so many kilometres to the Sun or moon, will these people be able to comprehend these vast unbelievable distances.
The moon and sun are a mere two light seconds and eight light minutes respectively from the earth. Light travels at 300 000 kilometres a second or seven times around the earth in the same time. The moon is a mere 400 00 kilometres and the sun about 156 million kilometres from the earth respectively, next-door neighbours in fact. Even this is near distance on cosmological scale is almost impossible for anyone to truly comprehend.
What about our nearest neighbours Centauri only 4.2 light years away and the next nearest star to the sun. Just around the corner on the vast cosmological scale.
It helps if one understands that the fastest object ever made by man “(spacecraft voyager at 100 000 kilometres per hour)” would take 80,000 years to get there. Then if you understand how amazingly fast that object actually goes one might begin to gleaning some understanding of how far away Alpha Centauri is. Moreover, Centauri is our next-door neighbour!
Then we can move further. Let us say, Epsilon Eridani, 10 light years away. That is over twice as far - Voyager would take close to 200,000 years to get there. All evidence of human civilization would be pretty much gone in a few thousand years, given an average society lifespan of about 1000 years or less, we’re talking 200 societies coming and going before Voyager makes it to Epsilon Eridani. Moreover, Epsilon Eridani is right next door.
The nearest Galaxy Andromeda
The Andromeda galaxy, the galaxy nearest to our own milky-way galaxy is mere two million light years away. Voyager would take forty thousand billion years (40,000,000,000,000) to get there. That is over 3300 times longer than the current postulated age of the universe, and that's our nearest galactic neighbour.
There are galaxies that are estimated to be 13.5 billion light years from earth and the strange objects called quasars even further at 14 billion light years. To reach far galaxies like these unimaginable remote objects, with a Voyager like spacecraft, would take almost an eternity and it is obvious that this cannot be the ultimate method of crossing the universe.
I foresee instant teleportation or some type of mind contact means as the method used by advanced humanity communicating across the vastness of the universe in the very distant future. To explore the universe by means of a metal space craft at present seems science fiction impossibility. But in time present perceived impossibilities might become a possibility
"The universe could be a sphere of infinite radius"
By Alan McDougall 15/9/2007
© Copyright Alan Grant McDougall 1/9/2013
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Post by Dave on Jun 7, 2015 11:40:59 GMT -5
Agree - I think of it with a little different vocabulary
Distance is a function of time - miles per hour, feet per second, etc
TIME IS NOT LINEAR! - Einstein says so, Enoch says so, and Science says so
Hollywood has taught us all that: If we travel close to the speed of light, time slows. So if we traveled close to the speed of light to another star time would slow down for us (from our perspective) - but for those we left behind on Earth time would pass at its current pace. The result is that we would travel for a few years to reach a vast distance - but back on Earth hundreds of years many have passed.
Perspective - is the key. To us in the space craft time feels normal, but is passing very slowly from the perspective of Earth. To the people of Earth we would be traveling at speeds beyond the speed of light.
Now for traveling those great distances
Within the definition of out corporeal universe - metal space ships cannot and never will travel anything close to the speed of light.
But - what about the UFO phenomena?
Possible conclusions: a - They do not exist - it is all a hoax b - They do exist, but they are not from distant worlds, but close worlds (within our own solar system) - Gnostic texts support this idea - one even says so c - They do exist, and they have mastered faster than light speed - within the "LAWS" of our universe this seems unlikely and even impossible d - They do exist, but are not from this dimension
This last one opens a can of worms - Jaques Valley makes this point clear. Many UFOs are interdimensional travelers. To me - I see no difference between the word dimension and heaven (both are other localities of reality) -
Different dimension = different "LAWS" - there solids may not be solids - time may be of a different scale - distances might even be meaningless
Jacques Valleys also makes the point that many of these UFO sighting and abduction cases are associated with CULTS of one type or another.
To me - I see a visitation from another dimension exactly the same as visitation from the heavens
Exact same phenomena - different vocabulary From another dimension = alien, extraterrestrial, shadow people From the heavens = messenger, angel, demon, spirit, ghost
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Post by Alan McDougall on Jun 8, 2015 3:09:34 GMT -5
Agree - I think of it with a little different vocabulary Distance is a function of time - miles per hour, feet per second, etc TIME IS NOT LINEAR! - Einstein says so, Enoch says so, and Science says so Hollywood has taught us all that: If we travel close to the speed of light, time slows. So if we traveled close to the speed of light to another star time would slow down for us (from our perspective) - but for those we left behind on Earth time would pass at its current pace. The result is that we would travel for a few years to reach a vast distance - but back on Earth hundreds of years many have passed. Perspective - is the key. To us in the space craft time feels normal, but is passing very slowly from the perspective of Earth. To the people of Earth we would be traveling at speeds beyond the speed of light. Now for traveling those great distances Within the definition of out corporeal universe - metal space ships cannot and never will travel anything close to the speed of light. But - what about the UFO phenomena? Possible conclusions: a - They do not exist - it is all a hoax b - They do exist, but they are not from distant worlds, but close worlds (within our own solar system) - Gnostic texts support this idea - one even says so c - They do exist, and they have mastered faster than light speed - within the "LAWS" of our universe this seems unlikely and even impossible d - They do exist, but are not from this dimension This last one opens a can of worms - Jaques Valley makes this point clear. Many UFOs are interdimensional travelers. To me - I see no difference between the word dimension and heaven (both are other localities of reality) - Different dimension = different "LAWS" - there solids may not be solids - time may be of a different scale - distances might even be meaningless Jacques Valleys also makes the point that many of these UFO sighting and abduction cases are associated with CULTS of one type or another. To me - I see a visitation from another dimension exactly the same as visitation from the heavens Exact same phenomena - different vocabulary From another dimension = alien, extraterrestrial, shadow people From the heavens = messenger, angel, demon, spirit, ghost In my opinion UFO's exist and are demons from another dimension and the only thing that separates us from them is a sort of invisible non-physical curtain and that they are up to no good and are evil. If is impossible to travel through space a greater than the speed of light, however it is possible to travel with space at greater than c. Below is an essay I wrote sometime ago on the subject of time(This is not meant to be a scientific paper) The illusion that is time
By Alan McDougall There is simply no universal now and within the physical universe time varies in different gravity fields and at speeds near to that of Light time is unique to the each person, subjective relative and not objective. I have postulated that time can also be equated to a sort of infinitely stretchable and shrinkable elastic band. The faster you go relative to the rest of the cosmic background radiation, the more the band of time shrinks in the your direction of travel and stretches behind you from your point of departure The concept of 'time' on Earth is maintained by means of scientific measurements of the relative positions of the Earth and the Sun within the physical three dimensional Universe and is measured by various physical instruments such as clocks, calendars and charts. Beyond the perceptions of most of those in the physical world, “time” simply does not exist. There is only Now, the Eternal Now where everything that has happened, is happening and ever will happen relative to the Earth concept of time already exists, always has existed and always will exist. Beyond Earth in the afterlife, therefore, the concepts of “past, present and future” simply do not and cannot exist. All Energy/Matter are influenced by the causation of thought before configuring, manifesting as an observable effect in the plane at which the thought originated. Thus from thought all things are created, both by God and man. Everything that happens, ever happened and ever will happen in the entire Universe therefore, including the physical world, first originated as a thought originating from the Mind of a Being, eventually becoming a reality. The Ultimate act of Creation by God of the entire Universe in all of its glorious spheres, planes and dimensions originated in the very beginning as a thought in the Mind of God. It can be truly said therefore that we all exist as “expressions”, within the Mind of God, made in the true Spiritual image of God. Since the beginning of the human concept of “time” mankind has sought to live life based around that concept, thereby always thinking in terms of past present and future rather than Now understand these realities. When a person thinks in the future tense, for example ” I will”, “I want”, “I could” then the Energy being influenced by those thoughts that can manifest into individual reality will be influenced but only in the Now, with the perceived future never actually arriving. So if someone thinks, says or behaves in a manner that implies “I want”, then that person is placing themselves into a perpetual state of “wanting” but never of actually receiving. The vast majority of the human race today exists to some extent in a state of such wanting, while never reaching a state of I have in the Ever-Now Moment. Alan Grant McDougall 2013
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Post by Dave on Jun 8, 2015 19:38:45 GMT -5
After all these years of arguing my point I have simplified my view as simply
Time is nor linear
Now it become not a constant in my reality - but just another variable under God's control
6 days - 13 Billion years - moot agreement if time is not linear
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Post by Dave on Jun 13, 2015 12:08:55 GMT -5
In my opinion UFO's exist and are demons from another dimension and the only thing that separates us from them is a sort of invisible non-physical curtain and that they are up to no good and are evil. This is an important element in Gnostic cosmology - UFOs - little green men - the Nordics - alien bases Why is this a theological discussion and not just science - because aliens are theological Let's say I ask a question in church - are their angels in heaven? The answer is a resounding - yes I ask - one or two or how many - armies and host is the answer I ask were they born on Earth - the answer is always - NO By definition - angels are both alien and extraterrestrial and this is when all the Roman christians have to move away from me - crazy ! But is is just words and the semantics of our vocabulary keep us apart Gen 6 - the Nephilim are not spirits - they are 1/2 breed humanoid creatures If they were here messing with humanity - as they always have - as their function is They would require vehicles - chariots - UFOs
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Post by Larry on Jun 14, 2015 9:40:52 GMT -5
All Energy/Matter are influenced by the causation of thought before configuring, manifesting as an observable effect in the plane at which the thought originated. Thus from thought all things are created, both by God and man.
WICA Rope magic
Have you guys ever heard of rope magic practiced by the white witches of wica? This is exactly how they describe it working. Multiple people all focused on the very same mental imagery. The combined power of all their thoughts focused upon one thing causes a reaction.
Group Prayer
Isn't this just like everyone in Church praying the same prayer? Everyone focused on the same mental imagery.
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Post by Alan McDougall on Jun 14, 2015 12:43:19 GMT -5
All Energy/Matter are influenced by the causation of thought before configuring, manifesting as an observable effect in the plane at which the thought originated. Thus from thought all things are created, both by God and man.
WICA Rope magic Have you guys ever heard of rope magic practiced by the white witches of wica? This is exactly how they describe it working. Multiple people all focused on the very same mental imagery. The combined power of all their thoughts focused upon one thing causes a reaction. Group Prayer Isn't this just like everyone in Church praying the same prayer? Everyone focused on the same mental imagery. No it is not, do you think before you do something?. Did Henry Ford think before as to how he was going to mass produce the Model T Ford? That is a thought, before it became a reality, "nothing spooky!
Edited out my hurful nonsense, sorry Larry!!!
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Post by Dave on Jun 14, 2015 14:40:55 GMT -5
All Energy/Matter are influenced by the causation of thought before configuring, manifesting as an observable effect in the plane at which the thought originated. Thus from thought all things are created, both by God and man. Everything that happens, ever happened and ever will happen in the entire Universe therefore, including the physical world, first originated as a thought originating from the Mind of a Being, eventually becoming a reality. Larry - I do know about Rope Magic. 1973 Boston Mass, there were some girls in Cambridge that my roommate and I tried to chase. One of them claimed to be a White Witch. I had to know more. At that time in my life I did not know what WICA was, and I tried to learn as much as possible. PS - I never even got a date with any of them - why - because I ask too many questions! If I understand it correctly - it takes 5 naked women - each sitting at the apex of pentagram. At the center of the pentagram is one burning candle. Each woman focuses upon the flame. At the same time thay have a 5 ropes all tied together - each woman holds and end of the rope so that the knot is suspended directly over the flame. Each woman pulls against the other - keeping the rope taunt while suspended directly over that flame. The purpose - supposed magic - because if they all concentrate on the exact same "mental imagery" while directing their energy - they would be able to "will" an effect. Alan wrote - All Energy/Matter are influenced by the causation of thought before configuring, manifesting as an observable effect in the plane at which the thought originated. Thus from thought all things are created, both by God and man. The power of thought affecting corporeal reality Alan's point (I think) is that one is from God and one is not. I am a Christian and I also know about this stuff Knowledge is power Alan evidently doesn't know about it and that is probably why he misunderstood your question. I will admit it - I have studied Satanism in all of its forms a lot. Alan - you ask - why would I want to know Because in every military education known to man says - KNOW YOUR ENEMY Intel is the key to any battle Paul tells us to put on the WHOLE ARMOUR of GOD because we are lock in a contest with powers and principalities - yet - no Western Christian is even interested in who the enemy is. (LETS NOT TALK ABOUT IT)
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Post by Alan McDougall on Jun 14, 2015 16:01:32 GMT -5
So is appears that I am not knowledgeable?
"Sorry guys I over reacted and I misunderstood you, you are correct in that I have not studied Satanism etc"
"I have edited out that the redundant information, from that regrettable post of mine"
Knowledge is power
Education and knowledge of Alan McDougall
I began reading from a very early age maybe 6 to 7 years of age. I have a very remarkable memory and can recall much of what I learned over the years from the Temporal Lobe of my Brain, without having to open a book to reference the subject.
I have a mind that is continuously, curious, restless and dynamic in form and structure, I have read thousands of books on nearly every topic one could think of during my somewhat protracted life which covered vast hosts of subjects, as diverse as, the study of the following topics below!
I am not fixed ridged in my beliefs, and will move away from them, if enough evidence, to realize that I am wrong.
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Post by Dave on Jun 14, 2015 16:14:17 GMT -5
Come on Alan - lighten up
No one said you were not knowledgeable about anything other than WICA, which you yourself said that you did not know anything about.
No one is here to attack you
My wife is a Filipina. When she first came to America she felt stupid. She didn't understand the rule of the road. She didn't understand the comments made at church. There was a lot she didn't know about America and how to live here.
At the same time she could speak 2 forms of Chinese, 3 types of Filipino, English, and surprisingly she understands most of the Spanish people speak here.
She was not knowledgeable about one data set - yet extremely knowledgeable about a different data set
Do you know everything? Aren't there a few thing you are not knowledgeable about? Cuz I am here to tell ya - there is a lot I do not know
and that is why we have this forum - not to demean each other, but to learn from each other
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Post by Dave on Jun 14, 2015 16:33:46 GMT -5
BTY
I am a big fan of Sir Issac Newton - have you read his theology? Are you aware if his 2015 prophesy?
Tesla - so interesting - for many reasons How valid was his science? The USG seized all his work and it is no longer public Tesla's lab was in Colorado Springs at the end of his life and absolutely nothing remains - not even the building - all torn down by - guess who - the USG
Why - resonance technology - why does a laser work, because the photons are amplified by resonating within the chamber, building up until release.
Tesla was doing the same type of experiments with electricity - now that scientific theme is lost The fact that my USG quashed this research means that Tesla really had something that would change the energy consumption of the world.
Just like my USG did at the end of WWII - captured German technology that turns coal into gasoline called the Bergius process and the Fischer–Tropsch formula - at the end of WWII 95% of the aircraft, truck, and tank fuels were all made from German coal - brought back to America in 1945. By 1949 there was a plant built in Missouri turning coal into gasoline and diesel fuels. A Popular Science magazine printed in 1952 said - fuel from coal was 70% cleaner than oil and cost a fraction of oil.
Perfect for our world today - but the USG closed that pilot plant, also in 1952. Since then we have been through one oil crises after another and coal has become a dirty word.
But - alas - I must be dumb because I do not recognize who James Clerk Maxwell is, but I am gonna google him next.
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Post by Alan McDougall on Jun 15, 2015 8:37:43 GMT -5
Come on Alan - lighten up No one said you were not knowledgeable about anything other than WICA, which you yourself said that you did not know anything about. No one is here to attack you My wife is a Filipina. When she first came to America she felt stupid. She didn't understand the rule of the road. She didn't understand the comments made at church. There was a lot she didn't know about America and how to live here. At the same time she could speak 2 forms of Chinese, 3 types of Filipino, English, and surprisingly she understands most of the Spanish people speak here. She was not knowledgeable about one data set - yet extremely knowledgeable about a different data set Do you know everything? Aren't there a few thing you are not knowledgeable about? Cuz I am here to tell ya - there is a lot I do not know and that is why we have this forum - not to demean each other, but to learn from each other "Sorry guys I over reacted and I misunderstood you, you are correct in that I have not studied Satanism etc" "I have edited out that the redundant information, from that regrettable post of mine" I have edit out all the redundant info in my over-reactive post.
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Post by Alan McDougall on Jun 15, 2015 8:45:59 GMT -5
BTY I am a big fan of Sir Issac Newton - have you read his theology? Are you aware if his 2015 prophesy? Tesla - so interesting - for many reasons How valid was his science? The USG seized all his work and it is no longer public Tesla's lab was in Colorado Springs at the end of his life and absolutely nothing remains - not even the building - all torn down by - guess who - the USG Why - resonance technology - why does a laser work, because the photons are amplified by resonating within the chamber, building up until release. Tesla was doing the same type of experiments with electricity - now that scientific theme is lost The fact that my USG quashed this research means that Tesla really had something that would change the energy consumption of the world. Just like my USG did at the end of WWII - captured German technology that turns coal into gasoline called the Bergius process and the Fischer–Tropsch formula - at the end of WWII 95% of the aircraft, truck, and tank fuels were all made from German coal - brought back to America in 1945. By 1949 there was a plant built in Missouri turning coal into gasoline and diesel fuels. A Popular Science magazine printed in 1952 said - fuel from coal was 70% cleaner than oil and cost a fraction of oil. Perfect for our world today - but the USG closed that pilot plant, also in 1952. Since then we have been through one oil crises after another and coal has become a dirty word. But - alas - I must be dumb because I do not recognize who James Clerk Maxwell is, but I am gonna google him next. I am most definitely not all-knowing and have much to to learn before I put off this mortal coil. I have a volatile nature that must suppress at times. Got me into hot water at times. In South Africa we possible have the most advances a largest coal to liquid fuel factories in the world. Sasol which produced a great deal of our gas for cars etc. South Africa huge coal reserves, but after many many years have not found any viable oil fields.
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Post by Dave on Jun 16, 2015 1:07:49 GMT -5
All is fare in Love and War and discussing scriptural beliefs
This is why I like calling it cosmology rather than theology theology is too absolute too final cosmology is metaphysical speculation about the whats ifs and the maybes
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Post by Dave on Jun 16, 2015 1:15:34 GMT -5
Gas from Coal
Did not know that about SA - cool for you guys America is the petro dollar - gotta buy that oil Coal is being displaced here - big time - the dread is more STUPID nuclear
nuclear energy cost more - employs few specialist - is absolutely deadly Coal employ thousands - whole communities - is mega abundant
I say invest the difference in coal chimney scrubbing technology to remove the toxins I could care less about the carbon
The Beast is a foot I think
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