The True History of Islam

[Dave]

Dr. Bill Warner
drbillwarner.com/

My mission is to educate the world about the doctrine and history of Political Islam. I deal with facts, not opinions.

My experts are Allah and Mohammed.
Everything I say and write can be verified.


Center for the Study of Political Islam
wikiislam.net/wiki/Bill_Warner

Warner founded the Center for the Study of Political Islam (CSPI) and is its director. His stated aim is to make Islamic doctrine, particularly the political and legal system of Islam, understandable to any member of the general public, and his training in scientific theory and mathematics has "shaped how he analyzed Islamic doctrine".

His books focus on Islamic law, and the canonical texts from which that law is derived. He uses these Islamic texts (Qur'an, Sira and Hadith) as his primary sources of evidence, draws his conclusions from them, and quotes from them copiously.

He considers the life of Prophet Muhammad as the key factor in understanding Islam and how it should be practiced, “To know Islam, you must know Mohammed. His life, called the Sira, and sayings, called Hadith, are the foundations of Islam. It is more important to know Mohammed than the Koran

[Dillon]

WOW!

I really like this presentation

I wasn't aware that there were so many wars by the Muslim against Christians.

Why doesn't history record it as such?

[Richard]

Umayyad conquest of Hispania
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umayyad_conquest_of_Hispania

“The Umayyad conquest of Hispania is the initial Islamic Umayyad Caliphate's conquest, between 711 and 788, of the Christian Visigothic Kingdom of Hispania … The conquest began with an invasion by an army that (according to traditional accounts) consisted largely of Berber Northwest Africans and Arabs, and was commanded by Tariq ibn Ziyad. They disembarked in early 711 at Gibraltar and campaigned their way northward. After the decisive Battle of Guadalete against (Roman) Roderic and the support provided to the Saracens by the legitimate heirs to the throne.”

The history books say that the Muslims took Spain at the Battle of Guadalete. The battle is sometimes referred to as the Battle of Jerez de la Frontera, Battle of La Janda, Battle of the Río Barbate, or Battle of the Transductine Promontories. Sometimes the date is listed as 711 sometimes as 712 – so history cannot pin point the date of this major battle.

Muslim civilization in Spain (711-1492)
www.flowofhistory.com/units/asia/6/fc46b

"In 711, an Arab general, Tariq, was sent into Spain with a force of unruly North African Berbers (from the Roman word for barbarians). Tariq, after whom the Rock of Gibraltar was named (from Jebel Tariq, the Rock of Tariq), decisively defeated the Visigoth king Roderic in 712, after which the Moors, as the Arab-led Berbers were called, overran the rest of the peninsula by 720.

There is evidence the Moors avoided prolonged sieges by confirming these local officials in their positions in return for their loyalty. Therefore, there was often little more than a change of management at the top that many people might not have even noticed.

By the same token, the Moorish conquest and its aftermath to c.800 seem to have been a fairly destructive and chaotic period in Spanish history for several reasons. For one thing, there was some resistance by the king and his nobles who lost their lands to Tariq's followers. Secondly, the Berbers who made up the bulk of the conquering army, were still unruly tribesmen and, for the most part, only superficially Muslim. Thus they often plundered and destroyed at will. Finally, although all Muslims were supposedly equal, the Arab rulers and officers treated the Berbers as second class citizens, taking the best lands and lions' share of the plunder for themselves. This triggered a Berber revolt and period of turmoil (c.740-90).

This anarchy allowed the survival of the Christian states in the north, the most prominent of which would evolve into Portugal and Leon in the west, Castile in the middle, and Aragon in the east."

Portugal was formed as the Christian stronghold of Spain - Interesting

The Battle that captured Spain for Islam was fought in 711 or 712. That Battle was only one of many in the 10 year struggle to take Spain. The Roman leadership did fall at that battle, but just because the King is dead doesn’t mean that everyone in the country surrendered. Remember Islamic war is a religious war.

After taking the land and government (which is recorded history) the Muslims then had to take the people. Under the rule of the Caliph, the population must convert to Islam or die. Regardless if you were a Jew, a Christian, or a Pagan you must convert to Islam or die.

The war against king and country is recorded. But what is not recorded is the religious proselyting of the people. As the Muslim took their Caliph to each and every town there was resistance. It is this resistance fighting that escapes the history books. The battle is not against king or country, but against the people. Town by town infidels were executed. Town by town there was resistance that had to be put down.

So, the Muslims bought or bribed its way into communities. This is what the history books tell us and it seems pretty slick to us capitalist, but in each town the resistance had to be put down. Just look at what the Muslims are doing in Iraq right now. Convert or die always causes resistance that has to be put down.

Not only that, but then the African Muslims (Berbers) and the Arab Muslims had to fight one another. Beginning with the Berber revolt, and then one replacement Caliphate after another.

The Emirate directly dependent on the Caliph in Damascus (711–756)
The Independent Emirate (756–929)
The Caliphate of Córdoba (929–1031)
The first Taifas (1031–c. 1091)
The Almoravid rule (c. 1091–c. 1145)
The second Taifas (c. 1145–c. 1151)
The Almohad rule (c. 1151–1212)
The Kingdom of Granada (1212–1492)
The late Alpujarras revolt (1568–1571),

[Dave]

Good Point

History only records the wars between Kings and Countries

How many wars did the US fight to form America?
The Revolutionary War
The War of 1812
The Spanish American War

Three -- but then there were how many Battles against the Indian? One or two more - no hundreds, if not thousands that lasted right up until 1973 at Wounded Knee South Dakota.

[Larry]

Islam

Some of the 10 Commandments that are the hardest to keep are - adultery/lust, hate/anger/rage, and not coveting your neighbors stuff.

In Islam, it seems that they are taught to Hate (anger and rage) against anyone different, even other Muslims
In Islam, coveting your neighbors stuff doesn't apply when you are busy conquering the world.
In Islam, lust and adultery is Ok if the victims of your perversion are not Muslim.

I was surprised at the videos reference to abducting Christian women to fill the Harems of the Sultans. I guess I had never thought of it before.

There is so much evil surrounding Islam
Is Allah the devil?

[Richard]

Consider this

The theme is always good versus evil
Function versus disfunction
The Gospel and the false message
Christ and the False Prophet