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Post by Dave on Jul 19, 2014 8:25:21 GMT -5
Alien Abduction,the Breeding Programwww.jesusbelievesinevolution.com/alien_abduction_breeding_program.htm The events described in the Biblical book of Enoch, when angels came down from heaven and began to procreate with animals and humans, is also happening today, only today it is no longer attributed to angels, but is recognized as alien abduction. Alien abduction of both animals and humans is a longstanding phenomenon known to those who study UFOs. Sometimes, when the aliens are finished probing, terrifying, defiling, and otherwise abusing their abductees, they unceremoniously dump them in whatever random location is convenient. In this manner, we might explain the occasional fossil which shows up on a continent it does not belong.
The agenda of the extraterrestrials is to use human sexual mechanisms to create one or more new species. At the moment, they don't want to conquer us as Hollywood pictures in the movies, nor do they want to help us as the New Agers hope. Instead, UFO researchers report a scenario much more akin to the situation in Enoch’s time – that is, heavenly entities secretly coexist with us for the purpose of genetic engineering.
One of the most widely respected UFO researchers is Dr. David Jacobs, who has effectively reduced UFO abduction research into a science that can be studied using large sets of quantifiable data. According to Jacobs, The evidence suggests that all the alien procedures serve a reproductive agenda. And at the heart of the reproductive agenda is the Breeding Program, in which the aliens collect human sperm and eggs, incubate fetuses in human hosts, to produce alien-human hybrids, and cause humans to mentally and physically interact with these hybrids for the purposes of their development…[1] The production of a hybrid species appears to be the means to the aliens’ goal. So far, researchers have been unable to uncover any other purpose for the UFO and abduction phenomena, and the Breeding Program.[2]
Leading UFO researcher Budd Hopkins adds confirmation. About his first alien abduction case in 1983 he writes that it was, The first of hundreds of similar cases I subsequently investigated in which women reported being abducted and apparently artificially inseminated, after which they found themselves pregnant. Then equally mysteriously, about the end of the first trimester, but often weeks or months later, the pregnancies disappeared, with no trace of fetal tissue.[3]
[1] Jacobs, David M. The Threat: Revealing the Secret Alien Agenda. 1998, Simon & Schuster, New York, NY, p 61
[2] Jacobs, David M. ibid, p 128
[3] Hopkins, Budd; Rainey, Carol. Sight Unseen: Science, UFO Invisibility, and Transgenic Beings. 2003, Pocket Books, Simon & Schuster, New York, NY, p 168
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Post by Dave on Jul 19, 2014 8:27:31 GMT -5
Alien Abduction,the Breeding Programwww.jesusbelievesinevolution.com/alien_abduction_breeding_program.htmFor the skeptics, Jacobs lays down several reasons for why alien abductions are real: Abductees are physically missing during the event. The abductee is not where he is supposed to be; people who search for him cannot find him. The abductee is usually aware that there is a gap of two or three hours that neither he nor anyone else can account for… Approximately 20 percent of abductions include two or more people who see each other during the abduction event.[5] These factors make it improbable, even impossible, that the abduction phenomena are only psychological delusions.
Hopkins and Jacobs claim that female abductees typically develop health problems associated with their reproductive organs, even to the point where hysterectomies are common. During hysterectomy operations, doctors sometimes notice scar tissue has developed on the ovaries or the fallopian tubes, indicating that something or someone penetrated the abductees’ stomachs to retrieve or impregnate eggs.[6] [7]
[5] Jacobs, David M. The Threat: Revealing the Secret Alien Agenda. 1998, Simon & Schuster, New York, NY, p 38-39
[6] Hopkins, Budd; Rainey, Carol. Sight Unseen: Science, UFO Invisibility, and Transgenic Beings. 2003, Pocket Books, Simon & Schuster, New York, NY, p 398
[7] Jacobs, David M. The Threat: Revealing the Secret Alien Agenda. 1998, Simon & Schuster, New York, NY, p 64
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Post by Dave on Jul 19, 2014 8:29:44 GMT -5
Dr Mack - Harvard UniversityDisclose This: Scientific Proof of Alien Abductions© 2011 By Gary Vey www.viewzone.com/event88.htmlO ne of the tenets of scientific proof is that a valid observable phenomenon can be predicted and repeated. … Trying to scientifically prove the existence of extraterrestrial beings requires the same prediction and repetition but does not require an intimate understanding of their origins, purpose or significance.
The closest evidence that meets these standards was reported by John E. Mack, a Doctor of Psychiatry and a professor at Harvard University. Dr. Mack specialized in psychiatric problems associated with repressed memories, often from abused or neglected children, and developed a method for helping his patients unlock these painful memories, confront them and eventually move through the trauma.
In his practice, Dr. Mack encountered hundreds of cases where adults revealed, often under hypnosis, memories of being abducted by alien beings. At first these memories were thought to be substitutes for actual sexual or physical abuse, too painful to be recalled even in the hypnotic state. But then Dr. Mack noticed that the reports were all very similar and contained details of the appearance, actions and interactions of the small humanoids, their space vehicles and even the surgical utensils used in the physical examinations that were the central theme of these memories.
At the time of therapy, Dr. Mack's patients were not yet exposed to the plethora of movies and books that popularized the UFO phenomenon. In fact, his patients often knew nothing of these things and were quite taken back when they were exposed to their own recollections under hypnosis.
Eventually, Dr. Mack documented over 200 cases and published his findings in a book called Abduction. The book was published in 1994, the same year that the series X-Files appeared on American television. This focused attention of the phenomena, both good and bad, and put Dr. Mack in the world's spotlight regarding UFOs and alien abductions.
Unable to explain why these repressed memories were all quite similar, many summarily rejected his findings and subjected him to ridicule. Nevertheless, Dr. Mack's work chronicles the phenomenon which has become the archetypal abduction experience that continues to happen even today.
In summarizing his observations of the abduction experience, Dr. Mack wrote:
"I was faced with the choice of either trying to fit these individuals' reports in a framework that fit my worldview -- they were having fantasies, strange dreams, delusions or some other distortion of reality -- or of modifying my worldview to include the possibility that entities, beings, energies -- something -- could be reaching my clients from another realm. The first choice was compatible with my worldview, but it did not fit the clinical data. The second was inconsistent with my philosophical grounding, and with conventional assumptions about reality, but appeared to fit better what I was finding. It seemed to be more logical, and intellectually more honest to modify my cosmology than to continue trying to force my clients into molds that did not suit them."
The patterns or common elements that Dr. Mack observed in his patients' abduction memories can be described as: (1) medical and surgical procedures, often including an introduction of the abductee to alien/human hybrids; (2) the relaying of an ecological warning about the survival of the planet and the human species; (3) the initiation of a transforming, consciousness expanding phenomenon; (4) the eventual development of relationships with these beings. We will explore these elements with some real stories from abductees.
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Post by Dave on Jul 19, 2014 8:33:14 GMT -5
Medical and surgical procedures... why?
Many people have tried to equate the abduction procedures with our own system of tagging endangered species in the wild. Others have described the abductions as the normal activity one might expect when an alien race encounters a different species, on a different world. But the fact that physical exams have been going on now for many decades seems to suggest something other than benevolent protection or scientific curiosity. The systematic abductions of the same individuals over their entire lifespan is indicative of some larger agenda, perhaps even one which we are not prepared to accept.
Having studied the abduction phenomenon for over 35 years, Temple University professor David Jacobs, Ph.D., the author of the highly regarded books The UFO Controversy In America and Secret Life, has come to regard the abductions as a means to breed hybrids (beings which are part human, part alien) in an attempt to replace our human population on Earth. He is somewhat apologetic about his conclusion and realizes how outrageous it sounds -- especially to those with little or no knowledge about the aliens or the abduction phenomenon.
"I've been involved with UFO research for about 35 years now, since about 1965, and I have never been downcast or depressed about the phenomenon. I have never been pessimistic about it. I've always been filled with wonder and awe and amazement at it. I've been enthusiastic and optimistic about it. "But I must say that now that I've learned as much as I have learned, and I think I've learned an awful lot, I am very, very unsettled and upset by what I see. I don't like what I see. I wish I didn't see this. I wish I hadn't uncovered this. I despair of it. It's thrown me into a tremendous sense of concern about the future and unease. I just don't like it very much. I wish I did. I don't want to be this way. I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. I could not have ever imagined that I would come to this position. What I'm seeing now, what I've found with the phenomenon, I could never have imagined."
According to Dr. Jacobs, the program is huge and spans a tremendous amount of time. It's done slowly and carefully to remain clandestine. However, the duration only seems long to humans, with a lifespan of 80 years. Aliens presumably live much longer and have more patience and time to reach their eventual goal. And that goal, according to abduction experts, is to take over our planet, replacing homo sapiens with a hybrid race.
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Post by Dave on Jul 19, 2014 9:03:53 GMT -5
The Motive "... according to abduction experts, is to take over our planet, replacing homo sapiens with a hybrid race."I DO NOT AGREE! -- "The events described in the Biblical book of Enoch, when angels came down from heaven and began to procreate with animals and humans, is also happening today, only today it is no longer attributed to angels, but is recognized as alien abduction. Alien abduction of both animals and humans is a longstanding phenomenon known to those who study UFOs." (Read more: ponderingconfusion.proboards.com/post/new/283#ixzz37vBWJe9o)The alien phenomena has been with mankind since the very beginning. So, they have had 5000 years or more to "Take over our planet!" Therefore, the take over of the planet is not the motive, or agenda, behind this hybridization program. However, stuck only with a secular perspective, what else could it be? Is this just some hobby the aliens do for fun and entertainment? Another Possibility - suggested by many UFO investigators - is that our alien Greys are actually clones. Clones cannot reproduce by themselves. Or they are a functional hybrid that is unable to reproduce. A Donkey and a Horse can give birth to a Mule, but that Mule cannot reproduce. To make more Mules you need more Donkey and Horse DNA. If Greys are human clones or hybrids - perhaps the same is true with them. They constantly need our DNA to reproduce themselves. The interesting notion from this possibility - is that - this would tie these aliens close to Earth. They can not be intergalactic or innerstellar beings from somewhere else. Or if they were originally, then they have been trapped here since - tied closely to human DNA. The Biblical Possibility - The modern UFO phenomenon, aliens, and human/alien hybridization, appears just like the stories from the ancient Book of Enoch, or Genesis 6:1-4, because it IS THE SAME STORY as Enoch or Gen 6. Suddenly, many of the unanswered questions of alien motives become clear as to WHY they do this - and - their goal become obvious.
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Post by Dave on Jul 19, 2014 9:19:26 GMT -5
From: Gnostic Christianity, The Archon and the Great Contest, pgs. 228-230 Daniel 2:41 And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, it shall be a divided kingdom; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. 42 And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. 43 And whereas thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men; but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron doth not mingle with clay.
The feet made of iron and clay indicate that the last major world controlling kingdom will become divided, being partly strong like iron, and partly weak like clay. The attempted mixing between the two parts will fail.46 In the commentary by St. Jerome, he says that since clay and iron will never bond together, it will be impossible for the kingdom to be united because its basic elements will not coalesce.47 Since iron and clay are materials that cannot form a durable structure, many scholars interpret this as the many short-lived attempts throughout European history to forge large empires, such as the Holy Roman Empire, Napoleonic France, Nazi Germany, and now the European Union.
Every Bible scholar out there agrees that this passage from Daniel chapter 2 is prophetic of the kingdom in power during the end-times. But what is represented by the "miry clay" in this image? It seems to be strangely mixed-but not completely-with the iron in the dream. The term ‘miry clay’ refers to clay made from dust of the earth, just as Adam was made of the dust of the earth. So, while the Iron represents the authoritative rule of established government, the miry clay represents the people being involved in the voice of the kingdom in some form of democracy.
The birth of the American government began a whole new way to interpret the feet made of iron. Over the evolution of time prophetic fulfillment has been seen as the Anglo-American World Power, the movement toward the United Nations, and the global New World Order. To keep pace with other end-time prophesies this New World Order is interpreted as a marriage between a religious and political Government, or a religious-political power developed and enforced by a global superpower. Either way it is seen as a common One World Government. In a more esoteric sense the analogy is now commonly used to refer to as personal weakness or character flaw, especially in the people of prominence.48
Daniel 2:43 And whereas thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men; but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron doth not mingle with clay.
In Daniel’s interpretation he makes a very provocative allusion in verse 43. The phrase ‘seed of men’ implies a grassroots, common man, element of the masses. Throughout the history of the Roman Empire, the opposing forces of monarchy versus democracy have always been in conflict at the grassroots level. Domestic strife weakens the government to the point that it cannot function. This sets the stage for the final Kingdom.49
As Daniel switches to a personal pronoun, in verse 43, "they" shall mingle themselves with the seed of men and not cleave together. Why would their seed not mingle if they were of the same seed? The same species? Just what (or who) are ‘mingling’ with the seed of men?" These would seem to refer to some beings who are not the seed of men themselves! This is extremely suggestive when viewed in light of the warning of our Lord in Jeremiah 31:27 and Luke 17:26, ostensibly directing us to look more closely at the Nephilim of Genesis 6.
Jeremiah 31:27 Behold, the days come, saith Jehovah, that I will sow the house of Israel and the house of Judah with the seed of man, and with the seed of beast.
Luke 17:26 And as it came to pass in the days of Noah, even so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.
Genesis 3:15 and I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed: he shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Genesis 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that …
The contrast is made between the seed of men and the seed of beasts, being two distinct kinds. Therefore, if the seed of men refers to humans as a kind (species) then the next question we come to is just who are “they” in Daniel 2:43? Is this a prophetic proclamation that the Nephilim return in great enough numbers to constitute an influential political constituency? 50" ... an influential political constituency?" - think about it - is not our world more divided today than ever?
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Post by Dave on Jul 19, 2014 9:42:57 GMT -5
The aliens are already breeding the hybrids they want. Women are abducted and are pregnant and then are abducted and then are no longer pregnant. I do not believe I was abducted but I was pregnant and then all of a sudden --no longer pregnant. The doctors were baffled. The aliens --well the greys==have lost their ablity to re produce. They are also playing around with our sun. I believe the dark eyes and the fact they usually but not always travel at night is due to the fact their eyes are sensitive to the bright lights. The problem I have with the government is that they poo poo the sightings instead of telling us what they are. And if you see a UFO you better keep it a secret or you will have a visit by "The Men in Black" and you do not want that. I have said it before and I'll say it again - we are all products of our own experiences David Ike - was just an average British Soccer Player - nothing special. Then one day he turned the corner in London and came face to face with an alien reptilian, who morphed into a human right in front of him. He saw this. He believes this. No one else believes him, in fact, most of the secular world consider David Ike to be somewhat of a kook. But, he saw it - he believes it - and none of our doubting will ever change his mind. Paul of Tarsus - was walking down the road persecuting Christians whenever he found them - when Christ appeared to him. Paul believed what he saw to the point that he went on to write 85% of the New Testament Bible. He saw - he experienced - he believed and no amount of the world doubt could ever change his mind. Joseph Smith - was praying in the woods when the angel Mormo appeared to him. He saw, he believed, he formed the Mormon Church. I -am a manic depressive from a family of manic depressives - I believe in demons. Other people can doubt what I have experienced in my life, but I remain a product of my own experiences. Virginia - I can see now, at least some of the experience, that form the strength of your beliefs in aliens. I have Pondered your post for a week now. Sorry, if I was slow in responding, but wasn't sure of just what to say - and - I certainly don'y want to put you on the hot seat by playing 20 questions with you - but - no one knows who you are here except me and I am not telling! So, if you are of the mind to do so - I would love to here more specifics about your case. When - 19?? How long were you pregnant? What proof is there that you were pregnant? Lab test, ultrasound, etc
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Post by Dillon on Jul 19, 2014 12:34:55 GMT -5
I am so glad you finally said something. I have been waiting to say something here but didn't want to be presumptuous.
Virginia - I believe you!
When I met my mother-in-law, she was a well respected CPA with her own office here in Buena Vista. She was never a member of the city council but worked on many committees for the town council. The in the late 80s she saw something.
Near Twin Lakes Colorado she witnessed a very large silver or grey metalic ship hover above the road. It had no moving parts that she could see and she said it seems close enough she could have jumped up and touched it. She stopped her car and watched it for 10-15 min before it shot straight up into the air and disappeared.
She was alone when this happened and no one else in the area reported seeing anything. It was obvious that she saw something because she could not stop talking about it. Yes, and this event changed her life forever. She soon gained the reputation as the crazy lady and eventually lost her customers and her office. Even she went through a phase where she thought she was loosing it.
Then in 1995 Tim Edwards filmed a UFO in Salida Colorado, just 30 miles south of us.
Mr Edwards was also considered crazy by the locals, but he changed the name of his restaurant to ET's Landing and sold copies of his film to tourist. To this day, you can still check out a copy of the VHS Tape or DVD from the Salida Library.
Once Mr Edward's story hit the national news, my mother-in-law was asked for an interview, but she refused. In fact she hasn't spoken of her experience for several years, but I can testify to the impact it had on our family.
There is no doubt that she saw something. No one ever doubted her word before and she has never given me any reason over these past 20+ years to doubt that she was 100% truthful.
People usually tell lies to improve their position or status not ruin it.
I believe her and you.
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Post by Virginia on Jul 20, 2014 10:44:18 GMT -5
It is me --Virginia. I was married in 1962 so my pregnancy would have maybe been in 1964. I wanted a child so me and my husband were thrilled when the doctors told me I was pregnant. I was approximately 4 months along when I went in for a monthly checkup because I was having problems. At my 4 month check up the doctor told me I was not pregnant. The doctors thought maybe because I wanted a child that it was a false pregnancy where you just fill with air. It was in the years before ultra sounds and such. In 1966 I did become pregnant again and had a child born at 7 months but he did survive. I had another son in 1970 and he also survived.
During the years of 1964 and beyond I would have dreams where I could not wake up. I am in a panic and keep telling myself --if I can only wake up things will be okay. I also had dreams where I can float or walk above the ground --about a foot off the ground. In these dreams I am very fustrated that no one else can do it.
I have not had these dreams in quite a few years.
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Post by Dave on Jul 20, 2014 14:06:52 GMT -5
False Pregnancy (Pseudocyesis)www.webmd.com/baby/guide/false-pregnancy-pseudocyesisIn rare cases, a woman (or even a man) believes she is pregnant, only to find out that her symptoms were caused not by pregnancy, but by something else entirely.
False pregnancy, clinically termed pseudocyesis, is the belief that you are expecting a baby when you are not really carrying a child. People with pseudocyesis have many, if not all, symptoms of pregnancy -- with the exception of an actual fetus. This unusual condition accounts for one to six out of every 22,000 live births. In rare cases, even men can have a false pregnancy.
What Causes False Pregnancy? Only recently have doctors begun to understand the psychological and physical issues that are at the root of pseudocyesis. Although the exact causes still aren't known, doctors suspect that psychological factors may trick the body into "thinking" that it's pregnant.
When a woman feels an intense desire to get pregnant, which may be because of infertility, repeat miscarriages, impending menopause, or a desire to get married, her body may produce some pregnancy signs (such as a swollen belly, enlarged breasts, and even the sensation of fetal movement). The woman's brain then misinterprets those signals as pregnancy, and triggers the release of hormones (such as estrogen and prolactin) that lead to actual pregnancy symptoms.As you know Virginia, I work in a Clinical Laboratory and over the past 24 yrs I have had patients and physicians question my NEGATIVE pregnancy results, because they are sure they are pregnant. So, I was hoping you would respond so that I could ask if you had a serum pregnancy lab test performed. However, I am not going to ask that question now because in my research on this subject I have learned that some of these patients actually present with a POSITIVE hormone test. Not only that but - “The symptoms can last for just a few weeks, for nine months, or even for several years. A very small percentage of patients with false pregnancy will arrive at the doctor's office or hospital with what feels like labor pains.”Back to the idea of Alien intervention I think it safe to say, patients that have these false pregnancy symptoms for 9 months or more without delivering can be safely ruled out of the alien scenario. However, for those who have these symptoms for only a few weeks are not that easy to explain away. Sure some of them are actually physiologically induced – but are all of them? I understand how – and the why – of science just dumping all of these cases into the same physiological basket, but now have to Ponder how many of those could be actual alien hybrid experiments. This unusual condition accounts for one to six out of every 22,000 live births. My information says that 98-99% of those cases are the ones that last only a few weeks. 98% of 22,000 live births = 21,560. 1 to 6 of 21,560 live births could be alien babies. Let’s just say 1 of every 21,560 live births is an alien hybrid that was grown in a human host then removed. In 2009, there were 4,131,000 live births in America 4,131,000 / 21,560 = 200 possible alien hybrids per yr This information is only from America, add in the rest of the world and 100s, if not 1000s hybrids produced per yr. Now add to this the total number of UNREPORTED cases and we could probably multiply this number by 2. Although, all this is just conjecture. To be more convincing we need more information. During the years of 1964 and beyond I would have dreams where I could not wake up. I am in a panic and keep telling myself --if I can only wake up things will be okay. It is a common theme of abductees that they feel helpless, in a trance, aware but not actually awake. Every time I hear a story like this I think of this Gnostic Scripture from the Nag Hammadi Text: “The Archons cast a trance over Adam which caused him to be sleepy, but it was his perception they dulled ...”This only helps your credibility.
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Post by Dave on Jul 20, 2014 15:22:34 GMT -5
Well - since everyone is sharing - I'll share my story. Westcliffe Colorado is just over the Mt. Range for the San Louis Valley (the home of cattle surgical mutilation) From Westcliffe, I made the 50 mile drive to work in Salida Colorado for almost 10 yrs. Buena Vista just 30 miles north of Salida and Twin Lakes another 30 miles north of Buena Vista. All of these Colorado towns just north of Duelce New Mexico. This is truly an interesting UFO area. In 2004 my wife had a job at the local Real Estate Office in Westcliffe. The wife of her Broker happened to be the daughter of the Provost Marshall, who was on-scene at the famous 1947 Roswell UFO crash. Once we knew who she was - we asked her what she knew. She said that her father would never talk about it with anyone, not even his wife. On his deathbed she, and her siblings, asked dad one last time to tell them what he knew. All he would say was, --- 'What does it matter? All that matters is that his family is still alive and well.' This is the story I was told, over dinner, in her house. There is no way for me to know if it was a true story or not. Speculation ran wild - what did his deathbed statement mean? Had the US Government threatened to kill his family if he ever talked? ?? Then last year sometime, while working on a different project, I ran across this: ROSWELL: 52 YEARS OF UNANSWERED QUESTIONS By Donald R. Schmitt & Thomas J. Carey www.cufos.org/ros6.htmlThe Provost Marshal at the Roswell base, the equivalent of the chief of police, was in charge of all security at the crash site in 1947. When we located and then contacted Col. Edwin Easley in late 1989, it was the first time anyone had extensively questioned him about what had occurred. The Provost Marshal did not tell us the weather balloon cover story, nor did he give us a true account of the Roswell recovery. Instead, he told us that he considered himself still sworn to secrecy about the event—after 43 years! “I can’t talk about it,” was all that Easley kept repeating.In one respect, I am a little jealous. I have never seen a UFO, I have never seen an Alien. But, during my sojourn I have encountered 2 or 3 stories that have greatly influenced my opinions. This story is just some gossip I heard over dinner. Second hand information at best. But this clip from the UFOlogy web-site validates everything I heard. For more about Col. Easley: kevinrandle.blogspot.com/2007/07/edwin-easley-and-roswell.html
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Post by Virginia on Jul 20, 2014 17:19:17 GMT -5
I believe the cattle mutilations are done by aliens because they only take certain parts--one eye or sometimes 2---reproductive organs--ears--they core out anus.
Every cattle mutilation is the same. Perhaps this DNA is more pure.
If the mutilations were done by animals the body would be eaten but animals seem to know not to eat these dead animals. I find that really interesting.
Was I abducted--NO. I want to make that clear.
Now we need to talk about ghosts as I lived in a haunted house in California. Was I scared--Hell Yes.
One night I thought I saw a space ship but --it was only Mars. I would like to see one for real some day--perhaps when they land on White House lawn--if we do not shoot it down first.
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Post by Dave on Jul 22, 2014 14:45:26 GMT -5
I didn't mean to imply that you were abducted
However - if you think your lost fetus (was, could have been, might have been) associated with the alien phenomena -
Then - you and they had some form of contact.
The bulk of alien contact reports have been summarized (for me) in the following 4 movies.
COMMUNION - true story - the life story of Whitley Streburg FIRE ON THE MOUNTAIN - true story - lie detector validated story by every witness THE FOURTH KIND - true story? But based on actual events - THE TAKEN MINISERIES - fiction! But, I think addresses well this issue of "Dulling one's perceptions."
Whitney Streberg had your same dream - "I want to wake up but cant. Something is wrong, I am helpless, I need to wake up, but cant. Everything will be alright, if I could only wake up.' - Except for him, his dream grew over time, became more powerful, more disturbing, more weird, more scary. The whole image of little blue aliens coming into the bed room, he and his wife screaming - then he sees her asleep while these little blue aliens lead him out of the room for medical exams, all the while he wants it to stop, but is powerless until he wakes up. It came to the point he would sleep in the living room chair with a shotgun in hand, but when he almost shot his wife he had to seek help.
Everyone thing him having a mental breakdown took him to the local shrink. She tried hypno-therapy. In just a few sessions Streberg realized that his dreams were not dreams - they were repressed memories. Once he realized this he "WOKE UP" sort of. He remembered that even as a child he was abducted and tagged. Over and over in his life he was revisiited. Now his wife and child are involved. Under hypnosis his they all remember being abused and used by these aliens.
I remember clearly the scene where their son is being taken from the house. Mom is screaming with all her might, but she is frozen and can not move to help. Dad is screaming but can not move. They watch at these little blue aliens and the Grey masters lead their child out the door. While the boy thought he was being lead to fairy land by a big smiling bunny. But when the family woke up in the morning, the only thing they could remember is they had a bad nights sleep.
Critics say is is just a story made up by Whitney and this back water psychologist for a book deal which went on to be the movie. Believers suggest that the key to Whitney's story is the he was already close to "WAKING UP". Almost on the verge of remembering, or committing suicide.
In the movie THE FOURTH KIND a back water psychologist in Nome Alaska has so many patients complaining about bad sleep that she had a group session. In that session one guy remembered that the reason he couldn't sleep was because of the OWL that was staring in at him through the window. When they tried to push pass this OWL image he bent ballistic. Drew a gun and held a hostage, eventually barricaded himself in his house sounded buy all the police, before he killed himself. Now all the patients at that group are haunted by their OWL images.
Under hypnosis another patient begins to speak in a foreign tongue. Trying to translate the recording of the sessions, a linguist from some noted university recognizes the language as ancient Sumerian. Now he gets involved and flies at his on expense to Nome Alaska. Together they film another hypnotic session with the same patient. This time an alien / demonic presence take over the room and commands them to stop. When the Catholic Priest asked who are you to command us. The presence said - I am god. The priest dies and the patient dies. Now the Psychologist is suspect #1 by the police in several deaths.
In the fictional MINISERIES TAKEN - I love the scene when a large UFO slowly approaches the military. The military shoots the UFO down, watch as it crashed into the earth throwing rocks and debris everywhere. It also crashed into the farm house cause almost total destruction of everything around. Soldiers boarded the downed UFO only to be tricked by their own memories. Instead of finding an alien they found grandma and her famous cookies.
The point - all this one a shared illusion buy more than 100 soldiers, used as a diversion so that he heroin could get away. Once safe all the soldiers WOKE UP to see that nothing happened. No damage no UFO nothing.
“The Archons cast a trance over Adam which caused him to be sleepy, but it was his perception they dulled ...”
This is such a common theme - they can make us see whatever they want us to see - and their ability to prevent us from remembering.
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Post by Dave on Jul 22, 2014 16:15:31 GMT -5
They can make us see whatever they want us to see
This is such an important point ---
Ezekiel 1:1 (ASV) Now it came to pass in the thirtieth year, in the fourth month, in the fifth day of the month, as I was among the captives by the river Chebar, that the heavens were opened, and I saw visions of God.
Visions?
2 Kings 6: 17 And Elisha prayed, and said, Jehovah, I pray thee, open his eyes, that he may see. And Jehovah opened the eyes of the young man; and he saw: and, behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire round about Elisha.
Seeing into another dimension?
Numbers 22:23 – 31 (ASV) 23 And the ass saw the angel of Jehovah standing in the way, with his sword drawn in his hand; and the ass turned aside out of the way, and went into the field: and Balaam smote the ass, to turn her into the way. ….. 31 Then Jehovah opened the eyes of Balaam, and he saw the angel of Jehovah standing in the way, with his sword drawn in his hand; and he bowed his head, and fell on his face.
Animals and Humans
Act 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people. 5 Peter therefore was kept in prison: but prayer was made without ceasing of the church unto God for him. 6 And when Herod would have brought him forth, the same night Peter was sleeping between two soldiers, bound with two chains: and the keepers before the door kept the prison. 7 And, behold, the angel of the Lord came upon him, and a light shined in the prison: and he smote Peter on the side, and raised him up, saying, Arise up quickly. And his chains fell off from his hands. 8 And the angel said unto him, Gird thyself, and bind on thy sandals. And so he did. And he saith unto him, Cast thy garment about thee, and follow me. 9 And he went out, and followed him; and wist not that it was true which was done by the angel; but thought he saw a vision. 10 When they were past the first and the second ward, they came unto the iron gate that leadeth unto the city; which opened to them of his own accord: and they went out, and passed on through one street; and forthwith the angel departed from him. 11 And when Peter was come to himself, he said, Now I know of a surety, that the Lord hath sent his angel, and hath delivered me out of the hand of Herod, and from all the expectation of the people of the Jews.
Isn’t this just a scene from the MINISERIES TAKEN?
It is extremely scriptural - the idea that angels and spirit can make you see anything they want you to see. It is also completely consistent with the Gnostic Archon’s ability to dull your senses to have their way with you. Completely consistent with the modern UFO cosmology.
Hebrews 13: 2 (KJV) Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares.
Gen19:1-5 (KJV) And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; … 5 And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night?
Angels as men!
Once you believe this then all topics such as – shapshifting – mythical creatures – bigfoot – demons – shadow people - the ability to appear and disappear - all gain new respect.
Cattle Mutilation
Remember the initial hybridization projects of Gen 6 also animals.
Jubilees V. And it came to pass when the children of men began to multiply on the face of the earth and daughters were born unto them, that the angels of God 4 saw them on a certain year of this jubilee, that they were beautiful to look upon; and they took themselves wives of all whom they chose, and they bare unto them sons and they were giants. 2. And lawlessness increased on the earth and all flesh corrupted its way, alike men and cattle and beasts and birds and everything that walketh on the earth-all of them corrupted their ways and their orders, and they began to devour each other, and lawlessness increased on the earth and every imagination of the thoughts of all men (was) thus evil continually.
Not only is ancient history filled with lessor other gods, spirits, angels, demons, but also chimeras, the blending of two or more species.
Griffins, Centaurs, Minotaurs, Pans, Sytrs, Pegues, goat man, moth man, mermaids, Unicorns, etc, etc
All genetic mutation and therefore DNA based cloning .
Perhaps many alien abductees end up just like the cattle, but the aliens are smart enough not to leave those bodies lying around. With cattle, up until the recent past, the aliens could have always counted on the coyotes to destroy the evidence.
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Post by Virginia on Jul 22, 2014 17:49:06 GMT -5
I have heard that a million people are missing--just gone without a trace.
I believe the next evolution of humans are taking place today. These are "Star Children" who are born with super natural abilities. They can read minds, do math with exceptional speed, can communicate with each other telepathically. Twins born and one has super human abilities but other one does not. That is really interesting. Something to "ponder".
If the greys have lost their ability to produce has set me to "ponder" something else. Since there are more and more gays these days, could say a thousand years from now (if earth is still here) could humans also lose their ability to produce? What is the old saying "Use it or lose it".
In Japan young people are deciding to go childless because they would rather have luxery goods than to raise children because of the time and money needed to do it. The elders are upset because they always thought their children would take care of them in old age but they find that is not on their childrens agenda.
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