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Post by Dave on May 27, 2020 2:28:25 GMT -5
Thanks Mike - I am sure you have more to say
Make us think!
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Post by reader on Jun 18, 2020 9:55:48 GMT -5
eye opening indeed. so Enoch is the only one who has seen the face of God. if i understood clearly what i read in the bible, nobody can see the face of God and live. i am a bit confused here!!
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Post by Dave on Jun 18, 2020 10:47:40 GMT -5
What a an AMAZING question - this is so cool
This is easily answered by examining our own perspectives - What’s that mean?
Before you can have a conversation about Judaism - you must first understand a few basics. Who is Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Torah Again with Christianity - you must first have a rough understanding of The Birth, Resurrection, and Pentecost You can even discuss Physics with some math knowledge
Now Enoch
Enoch is a foundational text for multidimensionality We exist in a 10 dimensional reality - 10 D of physical space Enoch and Paul both speak of 10 heavens
1st Dimension is a singularity that cannot be located - it is omnipotent and omniscient It is the E of the equation E=mc2 2nd Dimension is the expression of the First Dimension - implies expansion - the omnipresent planar matrix / ether that is the base of all the rest - I have a friend that has an excellent presentation how this just might be the ‘electromagnetic spectrum’ - that E that empowers and energizes all things beginning at the sub-atomic level and working it way up through the 7 layers of the periodic table Expansion - implies distance = movement through a distance = time 3rd Dimension - our reality - one uni-verse of the multi-verse - Height, Width, and Depth - matter as we understands it - corporeal reality as we understand it As we understand it - as we see it - in 3D terms
Jesus was the Christ - therefore for 3D man Christ is best precieved as Jesus the Son of Man
Christian Trinity 1st Dimension - God the Father / The one true Creator / the only God that deserves a capital g / Omnipotent / Omniscient / beyond our comprehension / beyond our definition / beyond our perspective No man can see God - Exodus dose say the Face of God 2nd Dimension - Omnipresent / Spirit (what’s that?) also beyond our definition / perspective 3rd Dimension - our perspective because it is our definition - Jesus Christ the Son of man
John 1:1-4 - there is only one Word The Word is God - 1st D The Word was with God - 2nd D Spirit (Holy Spirit) and through the Word all things were created - Christ / our perspective
So - here is your easy answer
When Gabriel picked up Enoch and set him before the face of the Lord Enoch saw heavens 8, 9, and 10 simultaneously
Did Enoch see the 1st D Singularity - NO Enoch saw - the 3 D image of God - which is by definition Christ
For me - all through the ahl or agl If you experience God in 3D form it is Christ If you experience God in Spirit form it is the Holy Spirit But no one has ever seen God - because He (male pronoun used out of male hierarchy respect) is beyond our ability to comprehend / beyond our definition
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Post by Dave on Jun 18, 2020 11:25:33 GMT -5
The Gospel of the Egyptians - The Nag Hammadi Library The holy book of the Egyptians about the great invisible Spirit, the Father whose name cannot be uttered, he who came forth from the heights of the perfection, the light of the light of the aeons of light, the light of the silence of the providence <and> the Father of the silence, the light of the word and the truth, the light of the incorruptions, the infinite light, the radiance from the aeons of light of the unrevealable, unmarked, ageless, unproclaimable Father, the aeon of the aeons, Autogenes, self-begotten, self-producing, alien, the really true aeon.
Trying to describe the undescribable
Three powers came forth from him; they are the Father, the Mother, (and) the Son, from the living silence, what came forth from the incorruptible Father. These came forth from the silence of the unknown Father.
The <first> ogdoad, because of which the thrice-male child came forth, which is the thought, and the word, and the incorruption, and the eternal life, the will, the mind, and the foreknowledge, the androgynous Father.
The second ogdoad-power, the Mother, the virginal Barbelon, epititioch[...]ai, memeneaimen[...], who presides over the heaven, karb[...], the uninterpretable power, the ineffable Mother. She originated from herself [...]; she came forth; she agreed with the Father of the silent silence.
The third ogdoad-power, the Son of the silent silence, and the crown of the silent silence, and the glory of the Father, and the virtue of the Mother, he brings forth from the bosom the seven powers of the great light of the seven voices. And the word is their completion.
What does this say? The Father brought forth 3 powers The First was the thrice-male child The second was the female mother - Holy Spirit The third was the Son who brings forth the 7 other dimensions - 3+7=10
So - the Father did not bring about the Father - He was already there So the Father brought forth the thrice-male child and the mother spirit
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
The (First) Apocalypse of James - The Nag Hammadi Library "Nothing existed except Him-who-is. He is unnameable and ineffable. Since you have asked concerning femaleness, femaleness existed, but femaleness was not first. And it prepared for itself powers and gods. But it did not exist when I came forth, since I am an image of Him-who-is. But I have brought forth the image of him so that the sons of Him-who-is might know what things are theirs and what things are alien (to them).
Joh 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,
John 1:18 (NIV) No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
Joh 10:30 I and the Father are one.'
Joh 14:9 Jesus saith … he that hath seen me hath seen the Father;
Christ = the male image of God Holy Spirit = the Spirit of God
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Post by Boston on Jul 12, 2020 15:00:35 GMT -5
How do I download this part of the book please?
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Post by Dave on Jul 12, 2020 22:06:08 GMT -5
Copy and paste?
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