Post by Dave on Oct 5, 2022 14:31:15 GMT -5
Dave, you quote this verse "Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works." but do not understand it's meaning, concerning "echad".
The Father works in Jesus,
Correct – Jesus = biology – the spirit within = Christ = God incarnate
Jesus (biology) + (Christ – the image of God)
because Jesus uses the Father words by faith,
God is speaking through the biology of Jesus
and so it is the Father's flow of power that flows through Jesus.
Absolutely
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Dave posts " God is the father of Jesus – Son of man – Not Joseph
Rob replies" Dave according to your theory the Father is Jesus,
Is misrepresentation the only defense you have? – How intelligent of a response
God is the Father of biological Jesus – not Jospeh
Yes Joseph was not Jesus biological father of humanity. God supplied that Himself.
DUH – I said that and you attacked me for speaking error
according to your theory the Father is Jesus,
Mary only supplied the egg for humanity, and was a surrogate in the overall process.
Therefore – Jesus = Son of Man
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D" In Hebrew they are called shedim
In Islam they are called Jinn
In Japan they are called Shades
Enoch called them Watchers
In many pagan cultures they are known as the Serpent Race
In Greek they are called archon – even within the New Testament
R" What a cop out.
You just want to argue words
Hebrew Shadim is known in Greek as Daimonia, or in Islam they are called Jinn,
YEP – both archon – Both the Beast of Revelation
The Greek word is δαιμονίζεσΘαι, meaning the condition of being in the power of a demon. To cure such diseases it was necessary to draw out the evil demons by certain incantations and tailsmanic performances, in which the Essenes excelled.
YES – the Dead Sea Scrolls belonged to an angelic contactee group
Josephus, who speaks of demons as "spirits of the wicked which enter into men that are alive and kill them," but which can be driven out by a certain root ("B. J." 7:6, § 3), witnessed such a performance in the presence of the emperor Vespasian ("Ant." 8:2, § 5), and ascribed its origin to King Solomon.
YES – King Solomon
Some stuff is weird to read
The speculation regarding the nature and origin of these demons and their leaders led as early as the second pre-Christian century, in those fragments preserved under the name of the Book of Enoch, to the story of the fall of the angels (Enoch, -; ). Like Beelzebub, or Lucifer (Isaiah 14:12; compare Slavonic Enoch, 29:4), two hundred 'Irin or "watchers" fell, attracted by the beauty of the daughters of men (Genesis 6:4); only tradition obviously differed as to the leader of the rebellious host, whether it was Azazel or Shamḥazai. At any rate, they acknowledged the supremacy of Satan (53:3, 54:6), though occasionally many satans are mentioned ( 7 et al.), and these fallen angels became "the evil spirits" (15:8, 19:19) who taught mankind all the arts of deception, witchcraft, and sin (-, ). But their children, the offspring of this mixture of an earthly and a celestial race, became, when slain, the hybrid race of disembodiedspirits or demons doing the work of destruction until the Day of Judgment (16:1).
Now just to be sure, not a single reference to "Archons" exist in this website webpage.
So in the New Testament, they are not called archon, they are called "demons or devils".
You just want to argue words
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I have some great news, David Icke does support Dave.
And Dave has always been a David Ike supporter – Imagine that
I just found this video.
youtu.be/_dSr5H0mFo4
The archons by David Icke
1:19 "some people call archons"
"serpent gods" / snake brother / star people / demons of Christians /
To Gnostics they are archons / to Islam, they are Jinn
Nag hammadi is a great find.
Archons cannot create something from blank paper, but can twist words if written
They are mind parasites.
Deceivers. - Classic Satan is a archon deceiver 7:31
I will stop on 7 minutes.
It is 16:22 min long – too much for ya – can’t handle an academic discussion – do not want to know the evidence – so you can just arhue against your own ignorance
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D"NOT FOR ONE SECOND - OMNIPOTENT
R" Really Dave, explain to me how you can make an umbra shadow
REDICULAS – you cannot block God with a shadow – God is omnipresent
Isa 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
Why isn't our sun sevenfold brighter ? Maybe God curses His own flow of powers over Creation because of sin.
Light = knowledge of truth – knowledge of God
Darkness = ignorance – lack of knowledge of God
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D"How does this prove that nothing ever died until Eve sinned
R" God is a GOD of the living, not the dead
D"Where is your empirical evidence that contradicts the museums’ of evidence
R" All this evidence came from Noah flood, not after Creation and before the flood.
REPEAT – you have many assumptions – where is your empirical evidence?
D"So answer the question – why did God set up the conflict between the 1% and the 99%
R" What conflict
I cannot begin to tell you how unintelligent I find your responce
If you refuse to answer - go away - Mr 2 way discussion person - with academic honesty
D"Ellen White colors the way you read scripture
R" Yes,
At least you admit your bias -
D"Islam trust in Allah – does this make Islam correct?
R" True, the humans have faith in Satan too, does not make Satan true.
And you say Faith saves
The Father works in Jesus,
Correct – Jesus = biology – the spirit within = Christ = God incarnate
Jesus (biology) + (Christ – the image of God)
because Jesus uses the Father words by faith,
God is speaking through the biology of Jesus
and so it is the Father's flow of power that flows through Jesus.
Absolutely
--------------
Dave posts " God is the father of Jesus – Son of man – Not Joseph
Rob replies" Dave according to your theory the Father is Jesus,
Is misrepresentation the only defense you have? – How intelligent of a response
God is the Father of biological Jesus – not Jospeh
Yes Joseph was not Jesus biological father of humanity. God supplied that Himself.
DUH – I said that and you attacked me for speaking error
according to your theory the Father is Jesus,
Mary only supplied the egg for humanity, and was a surrogate in the overall process.
Therefore – Jesus = Son of Man
----------
D" In Hebrew they are called shedim
In Islam they are called Jinn
In Japan they are called Shades
Enoch called them Watchers
In many pagan cultures they are known as the Serpent Race
In Greek they are called archon – even within the New Testament
R" What a cop out.
You just want to argue words
Hebrew Shadim is known in Greek as Daimonia, or in Islam they are called Jinn,
YEP – both archon – Both the Beast of Revelation
The Greek word is δαιμονίζεσΘαι, meaning the condition of being in the power of a demon. To cure such diseases it was necessary to draw out the evil demons by certain incantations and tailsmanic performances, in which the Essenes excelled.
YES – the Dead Sea Scrolls belonged to an angelic contactee group
Josephus, who speaks of demons as "spirits of the wicked which enter into men that are alive and kill them," but which can be driven out by a certain root ("B. J." 7:6, § 3), witnessed such a performance in the presence of the emperor Vespasian ("Ant." 8:2, § 5), and ascribed its origin to King Solomon.
YES – King Solomon
Some stuff is weird to read
The speculation regarding the nature and origin of these demons and their leaders led as early as the second pre-Christian century, in those fragments preserved under the name of the Book of Enoch, to the story of the fall of the angels (Enoch, -; ). Like Beelzebub, or Lucifer (Isaiah 14:12; compare Slavonic Enoch, 29:4), two hundred 'Irin or "watchers" fell, attracted by the beauty of the daughters of men (Genesis 6:4); only tradition obviously differed as to the leader of the rebellious host, whether it was Azazel or Shamḥazai. At any rate, they acknowledged the supremacy of Satan (53:3, 54:6), though occasionally many satans are mentioned ( 7 et al.), and these fallen angels became "the evil spirits" (15:8, 19:19) who taught mankind all the arts of deception, witchcraft, and sin (-, ). But their children, the offspring of this mixture of an earthly and a celestial race, became, when slain, the hybrid race of disembodiedspirits or demons doing the work of destruction until the Day of Judgment (16:1).
Now just to be sure, not a single reference to "Archons" exist in this website webpage.
So in the New Testament, they are not called archon, they are called "demons or devils".
You just want to argue words
-----------
I have some great news, David Icke does support Dave.
And Dave has always been a David Ike supporter – Imagine that
I just found this video.
youtu.be/_dSr5H0mFo4
The archons by David Icke
1:19 "some people call archons"
"serpent gods" / snake brother / star people / demons of Christians /
To Gnostics they are archons / to Islam, they are Jinn
Nag hammadi is a great find.
Archons cannot create something from blank paper, but can twist words if written
They are mind parasites.
Deceivers. - Classic Satan is a archon deceiver 7:31
I will stop on 7 minutes.
It is 16:22 min long – too much for ya – can’t handle an academic discussion – do not want to know the evidence – so you can just arhue against your own ignorance
------------
D"NOT FOR ONE SECOND - OMNIPOTENT
R" Really Dave, explain to me how you can make an umbra shadow
REDICULAS – you cannot block God with a shadow – God is omnipresent
Isa 30:26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.
Why isn't our sun sevenfold brighter ? Maybe God curses His own flow of powers over Creation because of sin.
Light = knowledge of truth – knowledge of God
Darkness = ignorance – lack of knowledge of God
------------
D"How does this prove that nothing ever died until Eve sinned
R" God is a GOD of the living, not the dead
D"Where is your empirical evidence that contradicts the museums’ of evidence
R" All this evidence came from Noah flood, not after Creation and before the flood.
REPEAT – you have many assumptions – where is your empirical evidence?
D"So answer the question – why did God set up the conflict between the 1% and the 99%
R" What conflict
I cannot begin to tell you how unintelligent I find your responce
If you refuse to answer - go away - Mr 2 way discussion person - with academic honesty
D"Ellen White colors the way you read scripture
R" Yes,
At least you admit your bias -
D"Islam trust in Allah – does this make Islam correct?
R" True, the humans have faith in Satan too, does not make Satan true.
And you say Faith saves