Well Dave, being SDA we are taught by Ellen White to view the Sanctuary Message, which is very different to the typical Jew its seems. We are taught there is a sanctuary in heaven. DO Jews know this?1- What is the value of your sanctuary - if you only preach the grave?
2- Jesus was a Jew – His disciples were Jewish – His followers were Jewish – the First Christian to experience Pentecost were all Jewish at a Jewish Temple
Mat 5:17 “Do not think that I came to abolish the Torah or the Prophets! I did not come to abolish, but to fulfill.
Mat 5:18 Amen, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or serif shall ever pass away from the Torah until all things come to pass.
Mat 5:19 Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches others the same, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever keeps and teaches them, this one shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:20 For I tell you that unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees and Torah scholars, you shall never enter the kingdom of heaven!
Jesus did not change anything – except open the gift of the Divine Pardon to the Gentiles – and all the world
being SDA we are taught by Ellen White to view the Sanctuary Message, which is very different to the typical Jew its seems. We are taught there is a sanctuary in heaven. DO Jews know this?Correct – you do not understand Messianic Judaism – because you do not understand Judaism
You are not a Judeo-Christian You are a Roman Catholic – hook line and sinker – just reinvented by a female prophet – of a defunked religious cult - who contradicts scripture
We are also taught that Jesus had a plan to show us what salvation involved, from the heavenly sanctuary into types played out in an earthly sanctuary.Whatever – Belief is all that is requiredJoh 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life.
AND – it is all that has ever been required – from anyone – Jew – Gentile – or otherPsa 51:15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.
Psa 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
Psa 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
The Day of Atonement is a very special day for us.There is nothing wrong with gathering to praise – teach – or learn
Jews spent 3000 years following the Law
The Law cannot or will mot save you
Practicing any religious law – is supposed to WAKE the practitioner to the spiritual reality
EVERY DAY is a very special day for us
So it's a little surprising Jews do not know this.
Surprising you don’t know thisEVERY DAY is a very special day for us
If the Lord reached down and asked YOU to be His disciple for the day – what would you do differently?
Every Day the askes us to Jer 1:5 - EVERY DAY is a very special day for us
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Does the Jews have a system when one does intentional sinning?I have tried to get you to understand Jewish Korban – but you didn’t want to know
It is not important for you to understand the ahl/OT – you have Ellen White and Catholic doctrine to mislead you
POINT – I grew up Presbyterian – I was not taught what Judaism was or is
I was taught that when Jesus died on the cross – it was the sacrifice that trumped all sacrifices
The Blood of the Lamb washed away our sins This is NOT Jewish in no way shape or form
You will never sell the concept of a human sacrifice to a JewPracticing Jew – vrs – Religious JewThe Law forces things to be done – many types of sacrifices - including blood sacrifices
Religious Jews understand the meaning
Question – is a blood sacrifice required for the forgiveness of sin?
Answer – NO
Psa 51:15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.
Psa 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
Psa 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
So what is Jewish sacrifice – if not a blood offering?Jewish sacrifice = KorbanWhat is Korban?
It is a giving up – a letting go of something of worldly value
The point for the Jew = personal loss
The world is a hard place = Gen 3:15
Many farmers work their ass off – just to make ends meet
Businessmen work their ass of – to make ends meet
Life in 1000 BC wasn’t any easier – just different
If a rancher raises a prize bull that would sell at action and pay off all his bills – they must give it to the Lord
Jewish Law is measured out by economic status – rich give more – poor give smaller things
Jewish Law is Proportional
www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12984-sacrificeSACRIFICE:The act of offering to a deity for the purpose of doing homage, winning favor, or securing pardon; that which is offered or consecrated. …
What is the function of sacrifice?
To bring peace to all the world is the purpose not merely of the peace-offerings, but of all sacrifices (Sifra, Wayiḳra, xvi. [ed. Weiss, p. 13a]). It is better to avoid sin than to offer sacrifices; but, if offered, they should be presented in a repentant mood, and not merely, as fools offer them, for the purpose of complying with the Law (Ber. 23a)Practicing Jew – vrs – Religious JewThe Law force things to be done – many types of sacrifices - including blood sacrifices
Religious Jews understand the meaning
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Christians do not understand Jewish sacrifices How many Temple were there – several / many outside of Jerusalem
All Temples were involved in sacrifices – on the local level
How many Jews were there? – Millions
How many Kohan were there at each Temple – 70?
Just how many tones of meat was sacrificed on a weekly / monthly bases?
Deuteronomy 15:11
For the poor will never cease to be in the land; therefore I command you, saying, ‘You shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy and poor in your land.’
Isaiah 58:7
“Is it not to divide your bread with the hungry
And bring the homeless poor into the house;
When you see the naked, to cover him;
And not to hide yourself from your own flesh?
Psalm 72:13
He will have compassion on the poor and needy,
And the lives of the needy he will save.
Proverbs 22:9
He who is generous will be blessed,
For he gives some of his food to the poor.
Just how many tones of meat was sacrificed on a weekly / monthly bases?
Most of it was a tax upon the rich to feed the poor – Jewish welfare
Leviticus 23:22
‘When you reap the harvest of your land, moreover, you shall not reap to the very corners of your field nor gather the gleaning of your harvest; you are to leave them for the needy and the alien. I am the Lord your God.’”
Most of it was a tax upon the rich to feed the poor – Jewish workfare
Christians do not understand Jewish sacrificesIt was never about the blood – it is about personal sacrifice to your fellow man – a giving of yourself
WHY – always the POINT = to become closer to God
Jews are guilty of sin and will stand proportional punishment or receive a Divine Pardon
Psa 51:15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.
Psa 51:16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give it: thou delightest not in burnt offering.
Psa 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.
It is a personal transaction between you and God – a personal relationship
You can practice that relation by repeating the THINGS of the Law until you get it
Or God reaches down and communes with you – one on one
Once a Jew communed with God – one on one – Moses, Jouhau, David, Isaiah, Elijah, and Elisha
They became disciples – prophets – Born Again – secret knowledge – inside information – fact
First Fruits
Christians do not understand Jewish sacrificesIt was never about the blood – it is about personal sacrifice to your fellow man – a giving of yourself
WHY – always the POINT = to become closer to God
Jews are guilty of sin and will stand proportional punishment or receive a Divine Pardon
Korban – what is a Jew to do – far away from the Temple – without a temple – held against your will – banned by man’s law from traditional Jewish Temple sacrifices
Answer – act like a Christian – public service – care for the widows and orphans – feed the poor – help the sick – wherever you are – whoever you can -
WHY – always the POINT = to become closer to God
Christianity is no different – you must get on your knees and let this world goMat 19:20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
Mat 19:21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
KORBATSMat 19:22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
Mat 19:23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
You can do this by practicing your belief – over and over – until you get it
Or God reaches down and communes with you – one on one
Once a Jew communed with God – one on one – James, John, Paul, Peter,
They became disciples – prophets – Born Again – secret knowledge – inside information – fact
First Fruits
Someone from Australia once said –
I do the things I have to do – to live the life I chooseGen 3:15 – Life is hard – yes it is
to live the life I choose – I am a get off my lawn conservative, I resist giving my money to Caesar, I want to be left alone – I want to live my life my way – I want the police to leave me alone – I want my boss to pay me top dollar – and I want the burglars and bandits to stay away from men and my family - I want my girl to grow up to be successful and happy
All of it is just (yester ra) want – in this world – for things and stuff
All of it programmed into my biology by God – go forth be fruitful / dominate and conquer
Christianity is no different – you must get on your knees and let this world go – lay your life down for another, be a Christ – witness for the Lord (Jer 1:5) – no matter the cost
(yester tov) –vrs- (yester ra) programmed into my biology
Rom 7:14 For we know that the Torah is spiritual; but I am of the flesh, sold to sin.
Rom 7:15 For I do not understand what I am doing—for what I do not want, this I practice; but what I hate, this I do.
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POINT – I grew up Presbyterian – I was not taught what Judaism was or is
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCEFirst Century Jews taught 1- the lost – unrecognized by YHWY
Non – Jews – Not God’s chosen people
2- believers – saved by belief / faith – Jewish Proportional Punishment until Pardon (Resurrection)
Jews + others – God’s chosen people
3- Spiritual – Born Again – spiritual communion – First Fruits / Divine Pardon
Joshua, Moses, Elijah, Elisha, etc etc etc –
led by the spirit – (Rome calls it secrete knowledge)
YES – all Jews are Pentecostal
First Century Messianic Jews (The First Christians) taught 1- the lost – pretenders – Christ will say I never knew you
2- believers – saved by belief / faith – Jewish Proportional Punishment until Pardon (Resurrection)
3- Spiritual – Born Again – spiritual communion – First Fruits / Divine Pardon - (Rome calls it secrete knowledge)
Led by the Spirit
YES – all First Century Messianic Jews (The First Christians) were Pentecostal
They are the definition of Christian Pentecostal
In Fact James, John, and Peter in the Nag Hammadi Library say
We are just called to follow Christ – we are called to be a Christ
Rome teaches 1- the lost – pretenders – Christ will say I never knew you
2- believers – saved by belief / faith – and dependence upon the church and state
3- Spiritual – Born Again – spiritual communion – First Fruits / Divine PardonLed by the church
NO – Catholic are NOT Pentecostal
They are the definition of organized religion – man-made men governing other men
First Century Messianic Jews (The First Christians) taught Spiritual – Born Again – spiritual communion – First Fruits / Divine Pardon - (Rome calls it secrete knowledge)
The communion Rome offers = a religious ritual with wine and crackers
The communion promised by Christ = The Word is My Flesh and the Spirit is My Blood
In Fact James, John, and Peter in the Nag Hammadi Library say
We are just called to follow Christ – we are called to be a Christ - (Rome calls it secrete knowledge)
To be a Christ is to be an outreach ministry of one – Jer 1:5 – generate First Fruits
Rome was always a men only clubGnostic Paul had a deaconess named Phoebe
Gospel of Thomas – Peter says – should Mary be here listening to us?
Jesus answered – a woman is under a man’s subjection – until she becomes a man – then Jesus will take care of her (my paraphrase)
Rome wrote volumes against this one Gospel of Thomas teaching
How can a woman change her God given sex? – Sounds like Robert
In Jewish culture – in Torah life – a woman is under a man’s care
The man takes his whole household to heaven or hell (just an example – much more complex)
If a man dies – the woman become the care of his brother
If the man has no brother – and the woman is widowed alone – she must step up for her own care
Rahab – Ester – women’s lib – once a woman steps up for her own salvation it is on her shoulders
Women’s lib – if you act like a man – you have the obligations of the man / same job = same pay honey!For 3000 years Jewish satan has been a somewhat biological creature
For 3000 years Jewish satan has been the son of an ARCH-ANGEL named bezebul
For 3000 years Jewish demonology included – (1) a personal level / shedim + (2) an national level – ‘other gods’ of the levant
Jesus was a Jew – His disciples were Jewish – His audience was Jewish
(1) on a personal level – he spoke of Beelzebub by name
(2) on a national level – satan tempted Jesus with all the nations of the world
The First Christian were Messianic Jews – Jews + Messiah
This is the theology of Jesus – His disciples – His followers – His audience
All Jews are Pentecostal – spiritual communion – led by the spirit – who then counseled the people
All the First Christian were Pentecostal – spiritual communion – led by the spirit – who then evangelizeRome persecuted the Pentecostal movement out of existence – or tried to
Rome tried to destroy the literature of Pentecostal First Christians – Roman Edit
AND Rome invented the doctrine of Fallen AngelsWhat is wrong with the catholic invented fallen angel doctrine?1- it is an insult to God
God lost control – God had to react / adjust
2- God is not sovereign
Your satan changed his own created form and purpose – against God’s Will
Then – your satan changed God’s Plan – against God’s Will
This is such blasphemy to a Jew
Only One True God - who created everything exactly as he wanted it
If there is a RA in my face – God put it there as a test / a temptation – and obstacle to overcome
Even if the RA was Hitler – the Holocaust – with 6 million innocent Jews murdered
Even if the RA was The Cross – even if it was at the hand of the Jews
Even if the RA was the Cross – even at the hand of Judas
Gen 50:20 Yes, you yourselves planned evil against me. God planned it for good, in order to bring about what it is this day—to preserve the lives of many people.
It is all Jewish God’s Plan – all Jewish God’s Will – God is sovereign – there is Only One True God
What is wrong with the catholic invented fallen angel doctrine?3- it teaches that even angels can fall from God’s Grace
God’s Love is unrequited – he loves us even if we don’t love Him back or even know of Him
Nothing can change this – and this is Grace – I forgive you EVEN THO YOU DO NOT DESERVE IT
What is wrong with the catholic invented fallen angel doctrine?4- it teaches that someone can oppose God
Again an attack upon God’s omnipotence – no one can oppose God!
What is wrong with the catholic invented fallen angel doctrine?5- it diminishes God and elevates Catholic satan to the god of evil
No one ever considered your Catholic satan until Rome invented him
Why did Rome invent Him?At the same time that Rome was stamping out Pentecostal Messianic Jews (First Christians)
Replacing – led by spirit – to led by the church
The also preached satan as the evil – at first the devil was familures - things within nature
Epilepsy was obviously a demonic possession
In the Renaissance – the devil and hades became the satan and hell we know today – from a play written by Dante - 6 years before the KJV was printed
What irony – the title of the play = The Divine Comedy
The devil was there in the air they breathed – forcing NEED for the church that offers reliefPOINT – Jewish demonology = the same demonology of all the world – the 99% just call them by other names Jewish demonology = Islamic demonology = archon demonology of the First century Christians = the gods from the serpent race for the rest
There is only one theology – it is written within the Torah and Jewish history – and it was the theology of Jesus Christ – His disciples – His followers – His audience – and the First Christians of the First centuryTo me – this is the only relevant context – what did Jesus mean – what did Paul mean – what did John mean