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Jul 22, 2012 17:48:32 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jul 22, 2012 17:48:32 GMT -5
Rev 16:13 Then I saw three foul spirits, resembling frogs, issue from the mouth of the Dragon, from the mouth of the Wild Beast, and from the mouth of the false Prophet. Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of demons working marvels--spirits that go out to control the kings of the whole earth, to assemble them for the battle which is to take place on the great day of God, the Ruler of all. (WNT) Rev 16:13 and I saw come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs-- Rev 16:14 for they are spirits of demons, doing signs--which go forth unto the kings of the earth, and of the whole world, to bring them together to the battle of that great day of God the Almighty; -- (YLT) Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. (KJV) Attachments:
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Sept 14, 2012 16:41:40 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Sept 14, 2012 16:41:40 GMT -5
Last night at 3:30 in the morning my cat went crazy. She started to howl. She had never done that before. She continued to do it for about a half hour. Ok---I would not have thought this odd (althou it was odd for her) but my friend called me and I was telling her about the cat. She said isn't that odd because at the same time her cat went crazy. Tore around the apt just in a mannic state. Her cat was in such a mannic state that she jumped up on the dresser and crashed into the window. Her cat before had run around but not in such a mannic state.
Was there some sort of earth change going on that affected the cats? Or maybe it was those pesky aliens roming around my house. Maybe a UFO hovering over the house.
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Sept 14, 2012 17:13:03 GMT -5
Post by Dillon on Sept 14, 2012 17:13:03 GMT -5
What makes you think it could have only been an alien or UFO.
It may have been other beings that cats are sensitive to. Like demons, ghost, and evil spirits?
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Sept 14, 2012 18:28:43 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Sept 14, 2012 18:28:43 GMT -5
Now that you mention ghosts that could be right. When my son dies and also my husband I know they do visit us. My phone would ring and someone was talking but I could not make out what was being said. When my husband died he came into my room to say goodbye and also appeared in my sons bedroom 50 miles away to say goodbye. When the hospice facility called me and then I called my son --we were all awake and we knew he had died.
My husband loved the radio and after he died the radio in my sons car would change channels to one my husband liked.
In the 1960's we lived in a haughted house but that is a story for another day.
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Sept 16, 2012 12:10:37 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Sept 16, 2012 12:10:37 GMT -5
There it is Virginia! There is more to the story - more to reality than most of us admit to. Now as a scientist, I have to say that to make any hypothesis based on only one experience - is just wrong - and we need to gaurd ourselves from (believing things - just because we saw it - I'll tell you why in a moment) However, place your story up against the 10 zillion other stories out there - discard those that seem hoax-ish. AND you are still left with several hundred billion stories that all support the same evidence. Even if it only has several thousand supporting data sets - the are 0 data to suggest a NO-Spiritual reality except - I don't believe it. So if we fall into the "Yes - there is more" category, what do we do next? All run down and join the local Catholic Church? I think not. I think we open our minds and hearts to the possibilities and research them as much as I/we can. Knowledge is power! Why would I doubt my own observations?Read this Gnostic text - from John (Remember him?) "The Archons cast a trance over Adam which caused him to be sleepy, but it was his perception they dulled ... They make our hearts heavy that we may not pay attention and may not see. So we loose the reflection of the Divine Light within us ... The Archons burden the soul, attracting us to works of evil, and pull us down into oblivion, make us forget who we are. (The Apocrypha of John II 22: 14-10, though 27-20.)" (metahistory.org/Gnostic Catechism) Hmmmmmm? Why did anyone ever edit this statement from the christendoms canon? "The Archons cast a trance over Adam which caused him to be sleepy, but it was his perception they dulled .."To me - this sounds exactly like many accounts of an alien abduction - STUN YOU - DULL YOUR SENSES - MAKE YOU SEE THINGS THAT ARE NOT REAL! Attachments:
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Dec 12, 2012 21:09:57 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Dec 12, 2012 21:09:57 GMT -5
'UFOs' spotted over San Francisco, BrooklynFox News. Live Science, December 12th 2012, Marc LallanillaRead more: www.foxnews.com/science/2012/12/12/did-ufos-fly-over-san-francisco-brooklyn/#ixzz2EsTm3B3HThe Mayan apocalypse believed by some to be taking place on Dec. 21, 2012, has apparently been preceded by multiple sightings of UFOs hovering over major U.S. cities. In the past week, San Francisco and Brooklyn were both treated to the sight of mysterious illuminated objects floating in the sky. On Dec. 3, in the Prospect Heights neighborhood of Brooklyn, an amateur video captured a slow-moving parade of lights overhead. The trio of lights appeared to move in a coordinated fashion, slowing down and then moving again in roughly the same direction and at the same speed. A similarly choreographed ballet of lights, reported by some as a UFO sighting, danced over the Mission district of San Francisco in the wee hours of Dec. 9. As in the Brooklyn sighting, the lights seemed to hover calmly above the city, then slowly drift away in unison, as seen in this amateur video. At least one astronomer was stumped by the San Francisco sighting. "It's not a planet, it's not a constellation, it's not meteors, it’s not the moon," Bing Quock, assistant director of the Morrison Planetarium at the California Academy of Sciences, told CBS San Francisco. Attachments:
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Feb 15, 2013 10:28:41 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Feb 15, 2013 10:28:41 GMT -5
When I went to get my taxes done there was a conversation about pope Benidick resigning and who would be the next Pope. I said when pope John died there are videos of UFO's circling over the Vatican and again when the new Pope was elected. The lady that was doing my taxes said she has seen UFO's here in Surprise 3 times. One time when her husband was with her so he saw them too.
I asked her if she follows any of the current shows on UFO's and she said yes.
Finally someone who knows what I am talking about without thinking I am some kind of kook.
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Jun 18, 2013 22:19:20 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jun 18, 2013 22:19:20 GMT -5
On May 22,2012 I told the story of the Air Force Base in Rendlesham Forest in Britian. I mentioned the binary code that had been imprinted in the mind of one of the solders after he touched the UFO. Now more of the code has been deciphered by two different labs and there are 6 cooderants listed. I talked about one as Hy Brazil which is an island now under water. Called the second Atlantis. I have now found the other sites. They are:
Hy Brazil Sedona Nasca Lines in Peru Egypt Site in So America Site in Northern China
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Jul 7, 2014 11:44:22 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jul 7, 2014 11:44:22 GMT -5
The UFO cover up has gone so long that now it is almost impossible to start to tell the truth. Pres Truman was the start of the cover up but I do not think they thought so many UFO's would start to appear. Now when they say balloons or swanp gas they sound like fools.
The only way to tell the truth is for a UFO to land on white house lawn and for CNN tohave cameras there.
But I would bet the air force would bomb it and then say "it was a weather balloon gone off track."
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Jul 8, 2014 5:35:45 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jul 8, 2014 5:35:45 GMT -5
OR - Remember these words: "Harry S Truman said, "I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on earth." (White House Press Conference, Washington D. C., April 4, 1950)
Jimmy Carter - Governor of Georgia, President of the United States, five-time nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize - at a Southern Governors Conference describing an UFO sighting he had on October 1969 said, "I am convinced that UFOs exist because I have seen one." (bibleufo.com/quotepres)
Ronald Reagan said, "I occasionally think how quickly our differences, worldwide, would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside this world." (From a speech to the United Nations General Assembly, Forty-second session. - Provisional Verbatim Record of the Fourth Meeting, September 21, 1987)
Mikhail Gorbachev said, in answer to President Reagan's hypothetical question, "... if the earth faced an invasion by extraterrestrials, the United States and the Soviet union would join forces to repel such an invasion. I shall not dispute the hypothesis ..." ( From a speech to the International Forum, For a Nuclear-Free World and the Survival of Humanity, at the Grand Kremlin Palace in Moscow
L. Clerebaut was the Secretary General of the Belgium Government and was the chief officer in charge of investigating UFO sightings. He is quoted as saying, "Scientifically we eliminate the simple hypotheses: It is not a plane. It is not a helicopter. It is not a natural phenomena ... Therefore this global phenomenon resist any other explanation. The only remaining hypothesis is the hypothesis of extraterrestrial origin." (bibleufo.com/quotepres)
Paul Hellyer, former Canadian Minister of Defense and now UFO advocate, said at a Toronto Exopolitics Symposium, on September 25th, 2005, "UFOs are as real as the airplanes that fly over your head. ... The United Sates military are preparing weapons which could be used against aliens, and they could get us into an intergalactic war without us ever having any warning." (bibleufo.com/quotepres)"I think your statement - that they didn't expect as many sightings as we have has - is wrong. The more sighting we have, and the more stories we hear, everyday, the more we (the sheepole) are primed and ready to believe the ALIEN INVASION story. Because, if we all accept the Alien version of events then major Biblical prophesies for our future wont appear as Biblical. The return of the spiritual Nephilim - just secular spacemen - Alien The Rapture - an Alien abduction event False messengers with false messages - Alien science in the guise of helping humanity The creation of a one world government - the end result of the Nations pulling together to defend against an Alien Invasion Here is a Sci-Fi movie story line for your consideration Aliens come to earth as friends They offer the world cures for all types of health issues - cancer, etc They freely give us technology and scientific information - everyone loves them Except - those cures they gave us made everyone sterile Without ever firing a shot, without ever needing to be aggressive or combative - within one generation humanity is gone and our new Alien friends invaded, conquered, and captured our entire planet.
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Jul 10, 2014 18:01:50 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jul 10, 2014 18:01:50 GMT -5
The aliens are already breeding the hybrids they want. Women are abducted and are pregnant and then are abducted and then are no longer pregnant. I do not believe I was abducted but I was pregnant and then all of a sudden --no longer pregnant. The doctors were baffled.
The aliens --well the greys==have lost their ablity to re produce. They are also playing around with our sun. I believe the dark eyes and the fact they usually but not always travel at night is due to the fact their eyes are sensitive to the bright lights.
The problem I have with the government is that they poo poo the sightings instead of telling us what they are. And if you see a UFO you better keep it a secret or you will have a visit by "The Men in Black" and you do not want that.
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Sept 21, 2019 15:26:36 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 15:26:36 GMT -5
Gentlemen and gentle ladies, this is an interesting read. I am new to reply here, but I can quickly, I believe in aliens, UFO etc, but I do not support them. For what I have read, you are supporting them, and they in turn support you.
Let me give you an example, my only experience:
I was a missionary science teacher in PNG, where in my church as a private boarding school, many of the so called church kids from our "Faith" actually supported "spirits" and "dark traditional magic"
The kids would use the "dark spirits" and pray to them to get them to help them win at competition soccer on Sundays. I asked them once why not ask the Holy Spirit to help you win Soccer matches? They answered, that does not work. Correct I said, GOD does not entertain man to increase pride in winning against their brothers. So you support the "dark spirits" instead.
Jas 2:19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? (KJV)
This text uses the word "faith" and related Hebrew words, and the actual meaning of "amanuah" is "support".
Jas 2:19 Thou "support" that there is one "divine Family Power (elohiym)"; thou doest well: the devils also "support", and tremble. 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that "support" without works is dead?
So there are churches to Satan and His angels, where followers support Him, just as true followers support GOD.
What made me aghast is these kids were supposed to be of the same "faith" as me, yet supported Satan instead.
Another time late at night, the boys came to my house and said
"Mr T come quick, the "dark spirits" is walking down our dormitory"
This was going to be my first encounter with "Satanic Angels" and so I grabbed my Bible, and prayed to God and walked into the dormitory, without no light, nothing but moonlight, just my Bible. I could feel the walls were dense or wet, but I heard nothing, and everything seemed fine, the boys were happy, and we all went back to sleep.
My feeling is the "dark spirits" come to those who support them, so if you support them directly, they come directly, if not they try to tempt you indirectly.
Normally I do not talk about Satan, or the Satanic angels that fell with him, it is not good to ponder the mysteries of darkness. We should leave our thoughts of darkness to Jesus, and face His light instead.
However, for those who ask:
Eze 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.
The Hebrew word here is "cherub" making the covering cherub, a Being that opposed GOD and was found to have sin in Him.
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
God threw out this "angel" (English word for Hebrew word cherub), so other rulers of other unfallen worlds behold Him. Was this angel all alone, or did others choose to follow Him?
Scripture does not answer this question easily, and the reason is GOD creates confusion for a reason, hence I love Dave's motto, "pondering confusion". However if you want to find truth, it is there if you study and ask the Holy Spirit to help you.
Revelation is translated from Hebrew to Greek, the Hebrew word "cherub" and "malak" are both translated into Greek "aggelos", so we don't know if messenger or angel was intended in Rev.
Re 12:1 ¶ And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: 2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
My church faith sees this as the "church", but its actually the simile of the Holy Spirit as a Responder and Nurturer of all living, including the "church" and "her children". How can I say this so easily? Because this "divine symbol" is a Being, at the time Satan began the war, so a "church of humans" didn't exist at that time. But other unfallen beings did.
Re 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. 4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
This suggests a third of God's angels were lost by deception, and the Holy Spirit lost many of the angels she was protecting and nurturing with ongoing life.
Notice the story moves to earth, and Adam and Eve are brand new kinds of unfallen beings, close to the image of elohiym (the Divine Family Power).
Re 12:5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
This has to be Jesus, born of humanity and caught up to the Divine Family once more.
Notice the context of why Jesus died, the Laws of GOD remain unchanged and eternal.
Ex 21:22 ¶ If Satan strive, and hurt the woman (Holy Spirit) with child, so that her fruit (Adam and Eve, and other future children) depart from her, 23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life (nephesh) for life (nephesh),
Notice the context is about the womb of birth, where nephesh comes from. The Holy Spirit imparts living to matter, and the nephesh is the result. Its a relationship between Divinity and Dust.
Now I listened to a Rabbi who mixes his words, and says "ruwach" is "soul" that is not Hebrew. "Ruwach" is the "Holy Spirit" and "soul" is "nephesh".
When Jesus died, he exchanged nephesh for nephesh for eternity. What does this mean? A relationship change. Before Jesus came to earth He was divinity as the Divine Family is divinity. When He added humanity to divinity, this causes an eternal change to his form, encapsulated by dust or matter, so the fallen DNA scars of sin is seen on his form forever, there is a bright beaming from His side. What a human SON of GOD he will be in contrast to us, without any stain of sin. We bow in humility of tears to His feet.
Re 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
A reference to the Darks Ages, where the Holy Spirit, the mother over the church protects the true followers from Satanic attack.
Re 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, 8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. 9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Here using block logic the Hebrew repeats the theme again from another view, Satan's side. SO who are these aliens, and UFO and other stuff, fallen angels doing Satan's work.
They mimic dead people, so humans support wizards to claim to speak to the dead soul.
Isa 8:19 And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits "owb", and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? for the living to the dead? 20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
The Hebrew word "owb" is a "hollow bottle" were people are deceived.
Le 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits "owb", neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.
Job 32:18 For I am full of matter, the spirit within me constraineth me. 19 Behold, my belly is as wine which hath no vent; it is ready to burst like new bottles (owb).
A simile picture. Some are full of the Holy Spirit, we burst forth words uncontrolled like new bottles (owb).
Re 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, 14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do...
These fallen angels dressed as aliens, UFO etc, come to deceive the world, will be allowed to appear on TV. Only after GOD allows them. Once this happens the sealing of the saved are complete and the end of time for earth begins. Shalom
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Sept 22, 2019 1:31:54 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Sept 22, 2019 1:31:54 GMT -5
Gentlemen and gentle ladies, this is an interesting read. I am new to reply here, but I can quickly, I believe in aliens, UFO etc, but I do not support them. For what I have read, you are supporting them, and they in turn support you. Could not disagree moreIn every aspect of secular life we are taught the strategic genius of Sun Tzu "It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; ..." This gets modernized into - KNOW YOUR ENEMY Think about his words - If we remember who we are (know yourself) - and know who the real enemy is - Eph 6 - Then we stand a better chance as we souljorn through the Great Contest AND if there is an opposition enemy working against us - how would he do it? Sun Tzu also said: All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near.
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Sept 22, 2019 12:00:50 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2019 12:00:50 GMT -5
You might be right Dave. I don't mean to offend.
Eph 6:10 ¶ Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. 11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. 12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
1Ti 6:12 Fight the good fight of faith,...
Lu 10:17 ¶ And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. 18 And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. 19 Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. 21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. 22 All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him. 23 And he turned him unto his disciples, and said privately, Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see:
Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. (KJV)
These texts lay a principle I think, that we should spend all our time knowing Jesus and walking in his powers, thinking of Him, and learning about Him.
Kent, my friend down the road, who loved watching videos about greys and UFO landings etc, invited me to watch such things, but I declined to go and see this evidence first hand. Yes I know Satan and his angels do such things, but one does not need to watch them.
I guess Dave it depends upon how strong or gifted you are as a person from GOD, I can walk into a pub and talk to drunks and not get affected by alcohol, but I couldn't walk into a brothel and rescue or witness to persons trapped in those places.
I also feel we should not watch the TV much anymore. Although I come home from work, and it is easy to relax and get my daily dose of conditioned programming from idiot box. I have listened to many Pastors who specialize in demon work, I don't think such things are for me. Not sure. I feel I am still under training by Jesus, learning how to support Him daily, and this surrender process of the Baal Master powers of self.
It's amazing the 70 disciples came back joyful so easily they did learn and finish their training. O for days and experiences like that, and to learn how to support Jesus and his Name like that!
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Sept 22, 2019 17:23:42 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Sept 22, 2019 17:23:42 GMT -5
You might be right Dave. I don't mean to offend. These texts lay a principle I think, that we should spend all our time knowing Jesus and walking in his powers, thinking of Him, and learning about Him. I guess Dave it depends upon how strong or gifted you are as a person from GOD, I can walk into a pub and talk to drunks and not get affected by alcohol, but I couldn't walk into a brothel and rescue or witness to persons trapped in those places. Don't mean to offend - it is not possible. If I sounded as if I did - I will apologizes This is an open discussion - we can disagree - it is OK The Apocryphon of James "Become earnest about the word! For as to the word, its first part is faith; the second, love; the third, works; for from these comes life.
Hence, become full of the Spirit, but be in want of reason, for reason <belongs to> the soul; in turn, it is (of the nature of) soul."
The (First) Apocalypse of James The Lord said, "James, I praise your understanding and your fear. If you continue to be distressed, do not be concerned for anything else except your redemption. For behold, I shall complete this destiny upon this earth as I have said from the heavens. And I shall reveal to you your redemption."
Traditional Roman Christendom wants you ignorant of the conflict your in Don't understand this stuff Allow traditional Christendom's cosmology to take you into different realities Divide and Concur There is only one theology everything must have a place within that correct theology - nothing can be outside it UFOs / Aliens / Science must belong to the theology of the ahl - just where do they fit The more information that we have that doesn't fit Christendom's mythology has one of two functions Either it invalidated the Roman view Or it invalidates Judeo-Christian theology - and therefore the ahl /agl
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