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May 22, 2012 14:48:34 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on May 22, 2012 14:48:34 GMT -5
In Britain in 1980 the US had several AirForce bases in A place called Rendelsham Forest. Two AirForce soldiers called James Pennistan and John Burroughs were sent out into the forest to investigate A light in the forest. The UFO was sitting on the ground. It had hierographic symbols all around it. James Pennistan touched the UFO and a vision of O's and 1's was imprinted into his brain. James wrote the message in a small book he had with him. The soldiers were told to never talk about what they saw . 30 years later the two men got together and decided to have the message keyed into a computer. Here is the message:"Exploration of Humanity 52 degrees 09' 42.532" N 13 degrees 13' 12.69"W Continuous For Planetary Advance". These coordinates turn out to be an island called Hy Brasil which is now under water. Ancient writings claim these people were very intelligent. I think this is evidence that ancient aliens have been manipulating earth since day 1. What does this message mean to you?
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May 22, 2012 17:17:12 GMT -5
Post by Dillon on May 22, 2012 17:17:12 GMT -5
Hi Virginia, None of us here fundamentally disagree with the reality of thing we cal UFOs. The question shouldn't be IF, but rather who. I personally have never heard of this island, but I have spent some time on the net checking it out. What does this message mean to me? A couple of points come to mind. 1. "History Channel - Rendlesham Forest UFO Binary Code Decoded But Decipher Is Wrong Says, Jim Penniston" www.ufo-blogger.com/2011/02/rendlesham-forest-binary-code.htmlThe first obvious thing that pops out at me is the story starts with a controversy over what the message actually means. I wonder just who is qualified to read Alien Hieroglyphs? Is the translation correct? If fact, if someone here really can read Alien, I would suspect them of working with the Alien and I would never trust their translations. 2. The second most obvious thing that comes to mind is if this is actually an Alien reference to earthly global corodenents. Why would Aliens use our system for global positioning? The equator is an obvious point to begin with N & S measurements; but we have to realize that the equator of earth is a floating imaginary line. As the declination of the planet changes, so does the observed equator. Longitude for this era begins with the Prime Meridian, which passes through the Royal Observatory, Greenwich, England - right? Yes, but only since the 1600s. The Chinese had a different location for 0 degrees longitude. Measurements of Longitude and Latitude are done in minutes and seconds - do Aliens have exactly the same scale as us? Also, the hour and minute measurement only works with the earth's current rotation period. If the Aliens were using our system of time keeping, and our the English system of global positioning; then why didn't they just spell it out in English. 2. If the translation is correct and the coordinates lead us to someplace that doesn't really exist. Then I say it is a ploy just like Area 51. Why, do I consider Area 51 a ploy? Because everyone on this planet thinks we have Alien stuff hidden away at Area 51 and Hanger 18, in Dayton Ohio. Therefore, that means there is absolutely nothing there. This is done for 2 obvious reasons: 1. Keep the investigators busy and focused on the wrong location - false direction. 2. If someone did break into either of these facilities they would find absolutely nothing. Then the government could easily say, see we told you we didn't have anything. All the while stock piles of stuff can be hidden in places like Duelce NM, or right in your front yard. So, mistranslation? Or false direction? The question we want to know is who are they. Independently evolving life forms from another world here to visit. Something we would find in a Star Trex episode? OR, is there more to the story? What say you Virginia?
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May 23, 2012 15:33:01 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on May 23, 2012 15:33:01 GMT -5
The heirographics were not translated. Only the bianary code was translated. Hy Brasil was thought to be another type place like Atlantis. Plato never said where Atlantis was located. I think Atlantis and maybe Hy Brasil was a hugh UFO that moved around. Atlantis disappeared in one day and I think it simply :LIFTED OFF'
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May 23, 2012 19:55:20 GMT -5
Post by Richard on May 23, 2012 19:55:20 GMT -5
Oh good, this is an easy one. "According to Plato, Atlantis was a naval power lying "in front of the Pillars of Hercules" that conquered many parts of Western Europe and Africa 9,000 years before the time of Solon, or approximately 9600 BC. After a failed attempt to invade Athens, Atlantis sank into the ocean "in a single day and night of misfortune". en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AtlantisOther Greek writings called the Straights of Gibraltar the Pillars of Hercules putting Atlantis only in the Atlantic. It sank into the ocean. It did not lift off. If you would have suggested that it submerged beneath the waters, say like, the movie Abyss; I could have gone with that. Also, in agreement with Dave's book, I also believe that Atlantis is just a secular version of the global flood story. Atlantis was prediluvian protoplanet pangea. Modern, flying machines, energy crystals, buildings, science, and magic that was all erased and buried by the global flood waters. It sank into the sea. This also explains why no physical evidence has ever been found. Approximately, 9600BC equates with the actual age of the great pyramids of Giza; also, attributed to the prediluvian culture, especially if you buy into the theory that the great pyramids represent the empty tomb of Enoch.
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May 23, 2012 21:11:23 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on May 23, 2012 21:11:23 GMT -5
If Atlantis simply sank there are people who have devoted there entire lives to searching and have never found anything. There are USO;s spotted all over the world. Maybe Atlantis is one of them. I agree that mis-information is a way to hide what is really going on.
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May 24, 2012 1:11:14 GMT -5
Post by Dave on May 24, 2012 1:11:14 GMT -5
I think you miss the concept. When Planetoid Pangea lost its atmosphere the entire planet changed. Gasses and then fluids EXPLODED from within the Planetoid, Ripping the continental plates apart from one another. Explosively sweeping all the land beneath the waters. Burying the tallest mountain to a dept of at least 20 feet. All civilization was erased. As the continents then pushed their way up through the waters surface the receding waters swept the lands clean. One of my arguments to support this theory is the American West. Have you been to Monument Valley? Many of those Monuments stand over 1000' tall carved by waters washing away softer soils leaving harder soils behind standing as pillars of evidence of the past. This phenomena exist from Idaho to Mexico and between the Rocky Mountains and the Sierra Nevadas. These softer soils became super saturated while covered with water - then - as the waters receded from the land, these softer soils were flushed out to the ocean. If you haven't been to Monument Valley, Moab Utah, or Brise Canyon then just drive up to Sedona Az - park your car along the road - then look up at the Red Sandstone peaks sculpted by water. Then drive on to the Grand Canyon and ask yourself, "Where did all the missing soils go?" All the missing soils from all of the American West. An area as large as 1/3rd of America's total land mass. Now I ask you - what if cities the size of NY, Phx, and LA occupied this same area - just what would remain? These cities and up to 1000' of soil beneath the cities all flushed into the newly forming Pacific Ocean and then buried by the continuous ooze of oceanic floor. This is why 0 evidence has been found. In fact, the only evidence at all about Atlantis is a poem from Plato written around 360 BC (that's 360 years Before the birth of Christ) I agree with you that UFOs have always been with us, especially after the flood. However, UFO are NOT the entire story. They are only a part of, or one player in, a much larger story. Binary code. "1011100110110001010100010101110101110110001110001110101010111011" Simple right? Just 1s and 0s. However, you should look at the following websites: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_operating_systemsen.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languagesAn operating system and a programing language. It takes both to make a binary code usable. The above sequence of 1s and 0s would mean entirely different things is you plugged them into an old Apple home computer versus a NASA main frame. So, I agree more with Richard than with you - who could have translated this Alien binary code? If you did get a chance to sit at the controls of a UFO, do you think it would operate on Microsoft Windows? Thanks for the personal messages concerning Charlene - AND - thanks for participating with us here. Have you noticed that the post "Is God an Alien" was posted for you?
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Jun 14, 2012 11:33:05 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jun 14, 2012 11:33:05 GMT -5
Dave I would like you to put the link for the alien tapes here for others who are interested. Betty abd Barnie Hill said aliens that abducted them also came from Zeta Reticuli. Aliens appear to have trouble breathing and appear to be sinitive to light. I think the tapes are real. For one thing they are not perfect reccordings and the interviewers are smoking. I don't think a video today would have smokers. Part three was the video you wanted me to pay close attention to. The aliens said technology and spiritual was most important to them. How very interesting is that. Really what we are discussing here. I think Pres. Reagan knew something because in so many speeches he brought up the subject of aliens. His speech writers would take it out and Pres.Reagan would put it back. If tapes were faked I think they would have made the aliens better looking. Or is that just me wanting to see the better side 0f everything. Part six talks about the moniter in front of the alien wherein the aliens heart beat is very erratic.I would not have noticed that if the narriater had not mentioned it. In part 7 the question was raised whether the alien died at the end of the tape and I say YES. The other thing in part 7 that caught my attention was that the aliens may just FOLD IN. How very interesting is that, When the alien said they are very interested in spiritual it takes us back to the GOD GENE doesn't it.
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Jun 15, 2012 10:42:10 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jun 15, 2012 10:42:10 GMT -5
Now that private companies are making plans to travel into outer space will our government and the governments of other countries tell these companies what they know about aliens on the moon and UFO's or will these governments let these people go in blind?
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Jun 15, 2012 23:45:49 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jun 15, 2012 23:45:49 GMT -5
Dave, I keep thinking about the video of the alien being interviewed. I could not miss the fact that the interviewer was smoking. This video was made in 1989 before we realized how toxic cigarette smoke is. The alien was very ill and getting sicker by the minute and then probably died. Could this alien be allergic to some of the chemicals in the smoke. Why would the interviewer be smoking?
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Jun 17, 2012 11:02:52 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jun 17, 2012 11:02:52 GMT -5
I am glad you enjoyed the movie - Area 51 Alien Interview.
Is it real or fake? I can not / will not say - maybe. But the three points that jump out ate me and the three points I hoped we could discuss further are:
1. The Alien said it was easier to speak of spiritual things than technology. 2. At one point, it is brought out that these Aliens don't fear death as we do. They understand the transition better than we do. 3. Fold in from another dimension - seen as both Angel and Demon
My Q - You made reference to the "God Gene." From this interview you can play it 2 ways - 1) these alien are just playing with our "God Gene" - or 2) both the Aliens and we have the same "God Gene."
Don't you now see why I come down on the side of the UFO phenomena being totally scriptural. We are talking about spiritual things - folding in from other dimensions (heavens) - posing as both Angel and Demon.
As an investigator - considering all the data - to form the best all round best fit theory / explanation - it is just wrong to see the story as only Alien UFO Technology -or- only as an Angelic / Demon thing.
All of it opens the door for - a multiverse - multidimensions - different localities within heaven / afterlife.
One comment about technology - if they are dimensional and come here with (say - make one up) 6th dimension technology - even if simple by their terms - would appear as a million year leap science to us.
Tag - your it
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Jun 17, 2012 11:10:07 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jun 17, 2012 11:10:07 GMT -5
Viginia said: will these governments let these people (private space companies) go in blind?
Blind - absolutely blind.
By agreement / treaty our Government or NASA is not allowed to say anything.
Each new encounter is going to be different - unique - only to add the the continual misinformation and misdirection that has been going on all along.
I see it happening as a 2 wave 'Full Disclosure' - the first being that there are Aliens - and the second 'Full Disclosure' is in the revealing their true identity and purpose - this is the true awakening.
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Jun 17, 2012 14:20:32 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jun 17, 2012 14:20:32 GMT -5
Add to the spiritual references from this movie the revelation by the independent Russian UFO investigator Velley Uvonov, that these creatures are searching for their own connection to their God - from whom they have become disconnected somehow.
A much larger "big picture" emerges - issues of little green men -are just trivial side bars to a larger story. Aliens - UFOs - writings from ancient man (both scriptural and not) - current events - all have a reference to a spirit realm (regardless of vocabulary - afterlife, heaven, or dimension).
Religion, found at the local corner church, regardless of text, Torah, Gospel, or Quran needs to be examined to separate out the teaching of scripture and give up centuries of parent organizational directives to promote the religious mythology, sanctioned upon by a higher authority.
The movement by science to readopt, within the confines of their own vocabulary, positions that openly admit that something are unexplainable by science alone, or require theories such as "Macrostatus" - "Big Bang" - "Intelligent Design" - to fill in unexplainable gaps. Is just as interesting.
To quote a great man- when you are on the right track, the pieces simply fit together. As the big picture continues to grow in size and complexity - you and me - we - us here on earth obviously become small side plot written into the larger theme of cosmic scope.
It is hard to cast of the "me" - "me" - "me" - we are the center of the universe arrogance that we seem to be born with - attitude; but until we do how can we truly appreciate our place in - our connection to the bigger picture.
Perhaps the American was onto something - respect nature - get in touch with nature - learning our place within nature - blend with a greater spirit for maximum peace and contentment. Respect nature (understanding) - get in touch with nature (science, investigate, learn , knowledge is power, --- also connecting spiritually - a higher consciousness, choice, essence) - learning our place within nature - our relationships to spiritual concepts, multidimensional concepts, relationships to the unexplained (UFOs), etc.
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Jun 18, 2012 10:37:59 GMT -5
Post by Virginia on Jun 18, 2012 10:37:59 GMT -5
I think the alien tape is real. A faked tape would not have the alien become sick and maybe die. I was watching the heart moniter to see if it stopped but the tape stopped before the alien's "end". As for the comment about "FOLDING IN" I was thinking folding in from outer space and you were thinking about folding in from other dimensions. I had to "ponder" that and I think you are correct. Yes I think us and the alien both have the "GOD GENE". Perhaps they don't understand it? Perhaps they don't understand "FAITH". I really feel this alien and UFO saga is coming to a head.
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Jun 18, 2012 13:29:25 GMT -5
Post by Richard on Jun 18, 2012 13:29:25 GMT -5
I think us and the alien both have the "GOD GENE". Perhaps they don't understand it? Perhaps they don't understand "FAITH".
Who ever planted that 'God Gene' must have been there for the creation of both us and alien - putting the Creator larger than both.
Or - there is no 'God Gene' and we and aliens are both responding to the natural order of things. Would intelligence and/or curiosity require coding to question: How we all got here? Who is the Creator?, and What is our relationship to that Creator?
If there is only one Creator and creation story, would independent investigations by any population group - earthy or not - lead all investigators to the same conclusion. Speaking just in the terms of hypothesis making, data collecting, and conclusion forming investigations; is the same conclusions reached by multiple investigators, using multiple investigation formats support for that conclusion?
People say they don't need to believe in God, because evidence of space men validate evolution and proves no God. It must be a real wake up call when these same people come to see that their space men friends are also seeking their connection to the same God.
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Jun 19, 2012 12:45:12 GMT -5
Post by Dave on Jun 19, 2012 12:45:12 GMT -5
Again I am reminded of the plot of one of my imaginary novel I will write someday.
Imagine the movie Prometheus, or Stargate; however, in my version the explorers find ancient ruins and writings. The plot of the story unfolds and the linguist eventually uncover one word at a time. The meaning of life stuff - the answers to the mysteries of the Universe - are about to be revealed. BUT- the scrip they are translating turns out to be Genesis word for word - In the beginning, God created ....
Surprise!
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