"End Times"

[Dave]

I do not support any "End Times" ministries. In fact I think the way in which many End Times ministries are conducted they actually do the Christian faith a disservice.

Matthew 24:36 (ASV) But of that day and hour knoweth no one, not even the angels of heaven, neither the Son, but the Father only.

Mark 13:32 (ASV) But of that day or that hour knoweth no one, not even the angels in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

The Millerites were the followers of the teachings of William Miller, who in 1833 first shared publicly his belief that the Second Advent of Jesus Christ would occur in roughly the year 1843.

1844 is known as the year of the great disappointment in any Church based upon the Seven Day Adventist Church, who continues to preach Miller's doctrine

Charles Taze Russell - founder of the Jehovah's Watchtower Movement (Jehovah's Witness) said that the Second Advent was to happen in 1914 - the beginnings of WWI drove millions into his congregation - but nothing happened. He changed his prediction to 1918 - and the end of WWI drove millions more into his Congregations. Russell died in 1916, but his successor, General Rutherford (who was never a general) refined the prediction in 1925 to say that "Millions today will never have a physical death, because this is the generation of the rapture" - that generation is almost gone.

Harold Camp was wrong in 1994 and in 2011

So - I do not support any end times "PREDICTION"

A generation and 1948

Matthew (ASV) 24:32 Now from the fig tree learn her parable: when her branch is now become tender, and putteth forth its leaves, ye know that the summer is nigh;
33 even so ye also, when ye see all these things, know ye that he is nigh, even at the doors. 34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished.

This verse has caused much speculation from the world of Roman cosmology
Because Rome says the Fig Tree is Israel and Israel became a Nation once again in 1948

1948 + 40 = 1988 yrs (a generation in the wilderness with Moses) - nothing happened
1948 + 70 years = 2018 - I first heard this sermon by a guy from Ireland, but for the life of me I cannot remember his name)

From: www.tedmontgomery.com/bblovrvw/Endtimes/endoftheage.2018.html
"Let us consider ancient Israel, which served and was held captive by Babylon for seventy years. While in captivity, the Jewish prophet Daniel perceived, from the writings of the prophet Jeremiah, that the captivity would last seventy years (Daniel 9:2; Jeremiah 25:11). Following the seventy years, Babylon and its king were punished (25:12-14). More importantly, the exiled Israelites were brought back to the land of Judah, where God prospered them (29:10-14). Furthermore, their temple was rebuilt after they returned (Ezra 6:3,15).

History tends to repeat itself, and numerous prophecies in the Bible have had and will have multiple cases of fulfillment. Most would agree that “Babylon the Great” will be associated with the end-time kingdom of the Antichrist and, ultimately, will be destroyed (Revelation 14:8, 16:19, 18:2). It will be vanquished by Jesus, the Son of God, following His return to earth.

In effect, Israel has returned to bondage under “pagan Babylon,” perhaps again for 70 years. Since 1948 + 70 = 2018, could this be a period of spiritual “Babylonian captivity” for Israel that ends in 2018?"

IF 1948 is the starting point then I would use 120 years:

Gen 6:3 And Jehovah said, My spirit shall not strive with man for ever, for that he also is flesh: yet shall his days be a hundred and twenty years.

1948 + 120 = 2068 - if nothing happens by 2069, what credibility will the Christian faith have left? Possibly after this time we will see the implications of Mathew 10:34

[Dave]

The Parable of the “Barren Fig‐tree

From: www.blueletterbible.org/study/larkin/dt/29.cfm
"In the Parable of the “Barren Fig‐tree” (Luke 13:6-9) we have another picture of Israel. The “Fig‐tree” is the Jewish nation. The “Fig‐tree” was planted in a “Vineyard,” which we have seen stands for the land of Palestine. The owner of the Vineyard and of the Fig‐tree was God. He came in the person of His Son Jesus, and for three years of Jesus’ ministry He had sought for fruit from the Jewish nation and found none. He therefore decided to cut down the tree, that is, remove the nation from the Vineyard.

But the tree was not destroyed immediately, for intercession was made for it, and the day of grace was lengthened out for forty years, and then the “axe‐man” Titus, at the head of the Roman Army besieged Jerusalem in A.D. 70, and Israel, the Fig‐tree, was cut down and cast out of the Vineyard into the field of the world.

But while the “Fig‐tree” (Israel) was cut down and cast out of the “Vineyard” (Palestine), its root was not destroyed, the axe was only laid at the root of the “Tree” (Luke 3:7-9), the root itself was not killed or removed from the soil. It is clear then from the “Parable of the Fig‐tree,” (Mat 24:32-34), that a new tree will spring from the root, that is, the nation of Israel will revive, and when it shall reach the point where it shall “put forth leaves” then we shall have the “FIG‐TREE SIGN” that Christ’s return is not far away".


Israel is not the Fig Tree

Mar 11:12 And on the morrow, when they were come from Bethany, he was hungry: 13 And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he came, if haply he might find any thing thereon: and when he came to it, he found nothing but leaves; for the time of figs was not yet. 14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee hereafter for ever. And his disciples heard it.

Israel is gone - it was destroyed in 70AD (What happened in 1948 was less of a religious movement and more of a political movement, which actually began in 1917 with the Belford Deceleration in England. That Fig Tree will NEVER have fruit again.

The Root of that Fig Tree - is Christ and Christianity - however, this Fig Tree doesn't have much fruit on it either -

So - I see a time in the future after 2068 - maybe a few hundred years after 2068, who knows - when Christianity has lost so much credibility that the persecutions of the remaining Christians will look like Matthew 10

Mat 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. 35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38 And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me. 39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

Then -

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Act 2:16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; 17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: 18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:


There will be such a Christian revival in the face of the Tribulation - this is the Fig Tree that will bloom and it is that generation that will see the "End Times."

[Dave]

Gnostics pull in information from all sources - because everything witnesses to the Lord and His creation.

Gnostic Scripture from Biology 101

In a closed ecosystem, the growth of any organism can be modeled in four different phases.
During the Lag Phase - organisms struggle as they adjust to their new environment.
During the Log Phase - growth rate is exponential, or logarithmic - limited only by the availability of natural resources.
During the Stationary Phase - harmony exist between the maximum population of that organism and the availablity natural resource
During the Decline Phase - or Death Phase - the amount of pollutionary waste products and the diminished natural resource out weight a sustainable population. This Phase is always evidenced by a dramatic decline in population.




This is true of any organism trapped within a closed ecosystem. Ranchers use this information to plot prairie grasses.




Do we humans live in a closed ecosystem? YES WE DO!

[Dave]

The Public Propaganda

There are 7 Billion people alive today
There will be 10 Billion by 2030 and 12 Billion by 2100




How many documentaries have we all seen about agriculture's ability to feed 10 billion people. We see documentaries about the future of space travel or the future of politics.

This is all a lie
It is presented to the public so everyone will just keep on believing that everything will just go one in a linear fashion. Tomorrow the same as today. Next year - more of the same.

The experts know differently



This graph was presented at the UN in 1993, it makes two points:
1 - Agriculture is in trouble - and
2 - The population of the Earth has already started to decline

Why the difference between the two graphs?
The optimistic graph predicting 10 and 12 billion people is surveying total population count. The pessimistic graph is "Birth Rate"

Right now - the geriatric population of the world + continued births make it seem as if population is on the continued rise. However, once this baby boomer generation is gone, America will have thousands of vacant retirement communities.

The Birth Rate is in decline and it has been since 1955

[Dave]

Our World in Data.org

This is the graph presented at the UN.
The birth rate changed for some reason 10 years after Chernobyl
The Baby Boomer population causes the spike at the short lived Stationary Phase
The red line at the bottom is China and the institution of the one child policy

Today - humanity is in the Decline Phase - Death Phase - and this phase is always evidenced by a dramatic decline in the population.

Does this have a relevance to any "End Times" ministries? Sure it does, here is the scripture I will share:

1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

Here is a graph of church attendance and the profession of faith:



Here is a graph of the two together - birth rate and professions of faith



Is there a correlation? - I sure think so

The bottom green line represents the average background radiation
It begins to climb in the 1940s - Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and weapons testing
It increases its rate of climb with Chernobyl
After Fukushima it is climbing faster than measurable

Is there a correlation there too - I also think so

but still - this has absolutely no bearing as to WHEN

[Dave]

Global Food Crisis
As the spread of African Swine Fever spreads throughout the Asian Continent, US Congressman Ted Yoho warns all Americans of a global meat crisis. The question is, what caused the crisis, how does the virus spread, and should we expect more?

7:24 - Global Pandemics
8:35 - Sun Cycle Minimums and Pandemics
9:52 - Space Bacteria and Viruses
Alien bacteria from space - my comments at the bottom
10:30 - Growing Salmonella in space
12:10-12:40 - Correlation between Soalr Minimums and Pandemic Outbreaks
12:40 - He is a Christian - Spiritual message
13:00 - Pole Shift and Pandemics - my comments ate the bottom
13:55 - Effects to the Global Economy - Global food crisis
14:20 - The Physicological Impact
15:00 - Future Protein Prices - blah blah blah

Alien bacteria from space - Sun Cycle Minimums - Pole Shift

FACT - Fossilized bactera have been found in - meteor fragments and Martian Rocks
FACT - bacteria has been found growing on the outside of the ISS and Meer
FACT - Solar Mimimums weaken out electromagnetic field
Fact - Pole shift is either a side effect of weakening magnetic fields - or is caused by them
Solar Minimums and Pandemic Outbreaks - correlate the data for yourself

www.mphonline.org/worst-pandemics-in-history/
2005-2006 - HIV/Aids
1968 - Flue
1956-58 Asain Flue
1918 - Spanish Flue
1910-11 - Cholara
1889-90 - Flue
1852-60 - Cholara

IMO - do bacteria and viruses come here from space - or do the solar minimums allow mutating radaitions to alter those bacteria and viruses that are already here

[Dave]

Oct 29, 2019 13:39:52 GMT -5 @robertt said:

America has been eating GMO food for years, and notice the rise in disease,

current agricultural model kills bacteria in soil, and adds chemicals to soil, as if this way enough to make healthy food.

Everything you say is probably correct on some level – it doesn’t consume me on the same level anymore

Today, I am more concerned with NHPs – not that I can avoid them but it is a matter of awareness
Vaccines are too obvious and is something I can avoid

GMOs – is not something I can avoid – without being 100% totally food independent
Then – even if I use store bought fertilizer – the question remains – what is its true origin?
The problem is a result of overpopulation – we have grown beyond the carrying capacity of earth.

If we returned to 1950s agriculture – ½ of the planet would starve to death
Therefore – we cannot as a culture – we can only do this as an individual

This is also why we have a fiat currency – there isn’t enough gold on the planet for us to all have gold coins in our pocket

If you read this thread – I think we are well into the decline phase / death phase of humanity

We are experiencing a sixth mass extinction of life, and humans are the cause. 38:13

GM reduces our seed saving, farmers now don't save seed.

American farmers haven’t saved seed since WWII and started buying seed since the very beginning.
1- Saving Seed – is labor intensive (back in Indiana as a kid – many teenagers were employed to detassel corn for seed.)
2- Farmers have always looked for better seed for better yield
3- Therefore farmers moved away from saving seed – and preferred buying hybreds
Now it is a catch 22 – replant that same hybred over and over it will revert to a small yield.

In 1950, Uncle John’s corn was 6’ tall and each stalk had 3 ears of corn, sometimes 4
Today, corn in that same field is 12’ tall and has a dozen ears each

This is necessary to feed the planet.

[Dillon]

youtu.be/cCxPOqwCr1I

In 1973, Australia's largest computer predicted trends such as pollution levels, population growth, availability of natural resources and quality of life on earth.


2068

[Dave]

Thanks for the video - even in 1973 science already knew
3:26 year 2020, the world condition will become critical
3:50 2040-2050 'civilized life' will become extinct

'civiulized life' gone - leaving the Tribulation in which everyone fights it out for themselves.
Post - apocolyptic!

[Dave]

I feel that God has shown me something and I must share it – it is so clear to me
Part One

In the beginning God created a beautiful paradise planet called Eden (and it was TOV)
Planet Eden was beautiful pure nature, - but every planet has limits – it is a closed eco-system
The God added life to Planet Eden (my example two cows- (and all seemed TOV)

Then inherent to life – as a consequence of life – a by-product of life – the cows shit on paradise (RA)
Paradise planet Eden – changed – now it is just ‘Pasture planet Earth’
These two cows – grew and multiplied and had dominion over the pasture
Soon cow shit is everywhere – but Pasture planet Earth seems so large, thousands of miles of pure clean nature

Science 101 – in any closed eco-system – there are four stages of growth – lag, log, stationary, and decline – during the lag phase – the cows do the best they can, but ignorant they eat and shit in the same pasture – and disease spreads (more RA) – eventually one cow murders another
During the lag phase the cows multiple at a marginal rate – birth rate only slightly greater than death rate

The log phase begins when the cows grow in intellect and begin to master their domain
Say – around 1800 and the discovery of steam, 1850 with the discovery of oil, and 1900 and the discovery of sanitation

Suddenly – cows are ‘going to and fro’ and RA can be spread to every corner of Pasture Earth
But ‘going to and fro’ also builds a global feed economy – cow used to graze from one location to the next – but now with ‘to and fro’ all the best of pasture can be brought home to each cow

During the log phase population grows logarithmic or geometric rate and the cows fill every corner of ‘Pasture Earth’ – life seems good – birth rate far exceeds death rate – this is spring time - new growth

However – global feed economy continues to spread RA in two ways. The alpha cows trample other cow’s pastures and ‘to and fro’ shipments are vulnerable to highway bandit cows and pirate cows
The (RA) struggle over ‘best of pasture’ also fills every corner of Pasture Earth – everywhere the cows have been is contaminated by cow shit

Science 101 – there is always a precipitating event – that initiates the stationary phase of life
A time when – there is a balance between the RA shit and what was once Paradise planet Eden
There is an illusion of harmony and birth rate is in balance with death rate

Say – the 1928 discovery of anti-biotics, 1939 WWII, The 1944 Bretton-Woods Agreement (America’s place in prophesy), 1945 Hiroshima. The discovery of the Nag Hammadi (1945)and Deas Sea Scrolls (1947) -both with texts dedicated for the end of days. 1948 Israel become a Nation, 1949 NATO

The 1944 Bretton-Woods Agreement (America’s place in prophesy)
WWII destroyed everybody’s navy – everybody’s economy – everybody’s manufacturing infrastructure – and everybody’s currency - except America’s

The agreement: (Peter Zeihn 4:39) - youtu.be/seKkczyEYvk
America’s navy and air force would patrol the seven seas and guarantee ‘Free Trade’ to all our allies – they don’t even need a navy or an air force
America’s consumers would be a ‘Free Open Market’ to all our allies - they could export themselves back to economic health. For the next 20/30 years anything from Europe was gourmet and everything else was ‘Made in Japan’ – There is an Asian shift in 1974 and now everything is made in China.
Because all other currencies were destroyed – America offers the USD as the standard world currency.

All our allies have to do is be on America’s side in the cold war against Russia – NATO
And for the last 80 years life has been pretty good for everybody (allies)

Oil – everybody talked about America being in the Middle East for the oil – sure, but not for themselves – but all their Bretton-Woods Allies (Europe, Australia, Japan, etc) – without oil ‘to and fro’ doesn’t work, without oil we con not farm the millions of acers by horse alone, without oil transport stops
Also – without oil – pharmacology wouldn’t have provided our current health explosion – ‘better living through chemistry’

Oil is the wine of Mystery Babylon that has the whole world drunk – Arabia and Persia pump gold straight out of the ground. It has financed Islam into a military machine – it has empowered RA even more youtu.be/F47uAKG-k-s

Today – the world is about to change
1- America can produce ‘shale oil’ cheaper than Arabia can pump crude oil. Shale oil is cleaner than crude and is much easier to refine. In America transport is cheaper than Arabia because America is the consumer.

2- American oil will be the sole supplier to the Americas / Arabian oil will be the sole supplier to Asia
Oil is no longer leverage by OPEC against the west – but a new economic weapon for both east and west

3- The Bretton-Woods Agreement said – America would be the world’s (Allies) policeman in exchange for cooperative strategic allegiance

4- America’s protest movement has always been anti-war, Bush’s War, regime change wars, in the Middle East for oil – today America asks:
a. Why should we defend Germany, when they turn down American gas and oil and build mega-pipelines to Russia
b. Why should America defend France, when they help our non-allies build nuclear weapons
c. Why should we defend their oil from Arabia, when we have our own?
d. China is pissing at America and pushing our allies in Asia, why should we defend their oil from Arabia?
e. Just recently, America asked Spain to stop an Iranian oil tanker – they said NO
f. We have manned the DMZ in Korea since 1952 – South Korea votes against America at the UN – Hello!

5- Trump is not bumbling around the world making mistakes – America is withdrawing from its role as the world’s policeman – America is withdrawing from the Middle East. Trump is just the facilitator. All the same people that protested the wars of regime change are now protesting that Trump is walking out on our longtime friends (are they friends – allies?)

6- Islamic backlash – America goes to the Middle East and kills 1/4th of the population. Then we build schools and teach democracy – so that every Arab knows that every American voted to kill their grandpa, two uncles, a brother, and maybe even their child.

Romans 1 – to the people that deny God as creator – he will sidetrack with LGBT and my governor is gay. American Hollywood is LGBT and promotes all types of non-Biblical lifestyles – only reinforcing Islam’s satanic view of the west.

7- Trump and Russia – if Trump facilitates America’s vote to withdrawal from the world policeman role and the Middle East – Russia is the biggest benefactor – duh

[Dave]

I feel that God has shown me something and I must share it – it is so clear to me
Part Two

The decline phase –begins when the amount of RA shit and other pollutants outweigh the natural resources and death rate is much greater than the birth rate


This began in 1986 and Chernobyl . The death and harm caused by Chernobyl + the clean-up way beyond the USSR’s ability and skill to cope – Ukraine had to go into the world community for help. Belarus was so impacted / so contaminated it had to into the world community for help. 1989 the Berlin Wall Fell. Cold War over – Yeah American President Reagan’s diplomacy

Scientist Michio Kaku says – ever one of us has a piece of Chernobyl within us. I am closely related to Fukushima. Nuclear NHPs is another axe that I grind. People need to know! ¼ of the planet depends on the Pacific for food and it is becoming more and more radioactive.

1973 ‘Global One’ used Australian largest computer and predicted that by 2040/2050 global civilization will collapse.
(Computer predicts the end of civilisation 10:27) - youtu.be/cCxPOqwCr1I

Demographic Winter is real – there is a pending collapse of the Jewish + Caucasian ‘lost tribes’ / Israel + Western Caucasian Christendom people – the same audience as the ahl + agl.
Western Caucasian Christendom is soon facing a demographic winter / social collapse / economic collapse / tribulation – also around 2050 Islam will be the biggest benefactor
(Muslim Demographics - 7:30) - youtu.be/6-3X5hIFXYU

Just as Christendom’s history has been a struggle / war between two dominate factions (Catholics and Protestants) Islam has its own internal struggle between Arabian Sunni and Persian Shia
(Mystery, Babylon The Great - 8:55) - youtu.be/yXxrBkuHYAE

Islam – the coming instability in Arabia is not because America is there, but because America leaves – and leaves it to other forces – Islam will be the benefactor

If the America’s have their own oil, and Europe has pipeline into Russia – who will want to control Arabian oil – Philippines, Taiwan, Japan, Korea, and China. China is already militarily supporting Iran inside Syria.

End times? I am not predicting dates = but as a scientist / as someone aware – the life spans of my children is going to endure a collapse of civilization – a collapse of economies – war will happen

The next war can happen in one of two ways
1- Man goes crazy God grants perdition – everybody shoot everything at everybody or a period of three days and the survivors are living in a radioactive cesspool
2- Or it plays out slower as in – three waves of back and forth – over 38 years – Dead Sea War Scroll found 1947 long side the Torah, Enoch, Jubilees, and 19 small fragments of Greek agl